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Apple announces the iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro, Watch Series 5, and more

2019-09-13

Stories from this week: iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max: hands-on with Apple’s new flagship phonesApple’s new iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro cameras: what they doWith the iPhone 11 Pro, what does it even mean for a phone to be ‘pro’? Apple’s new iPhone finally sacrifices thinness for battery lifeThe 3 best and worst features of the iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro MaxThe iPhone 11 Pro comes with a USB-C 18W wall charger and USB-C to Lightning cableiPhone 11 improves on the XR in every wayiPhone 11: a first look at Apple’s new default iPhoneThe iPhone 11, Pro, and Pro Max will cost $699, $999, and $1,099, respectivelyAirDrop on the iPhone 11 will let you point at people to share photosApple’s iPhone 11 doesn’t have 5G because 5G isn’t ready for the iPhoneWhat we’re still waiting for after Apple’s iPhone 11 eventApple Watch Series 5: hands-on with the new generation smartwatchThe upgraded seventh-gen iPad has a 10.2-inch displayiPad 10.2-inch: hands-on with Apple’s new 7th-gen tabletApple Arcade is launching on September 19th for $4.99 a monthApple TV Plus one-year trial comes with every Apple device purchasHere’s Apple TV Plus’ launch lineupApple TV Plus launches on November 1st for $4.99 per monthGoogle takes one tiny step closer to the world beneath the worldGoogle Pixel 4 XL leaked in extensive hands-on videos …Leak reveals how the Pixel 4’s new face unlock setup differs …Leaked Google Pixel 4 photos show orange color variant …Leaked Google Pixel 4 promo video includes gestures …Latest Pixel 4 rumors claim 8x zoom, improved Night Sight …Leaked Google Pixel 4 XL pictures show off the giant top ...

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psyche. Excellent story pointed out to everybody that people are drop, and I have done that as well, which means my nicotine content has dropped, which means my weight has gone up, and so has my relative level of lake ambient anger, sir enjoy. There is real tech music. We take the good stuff tat season is here. There is now levant, then dear, into the circle we were in it. It was big there's a lot of people there to pro phones as we spected an iphone. Eleven. A new apple watch, surprise ip there's flock on names, announcements. What do you want to start? Your honor, He's gotta start with the iphones like? That's it there's a bunch of stuff. We want to get we could like tease the listeners by saying we're going to get to the big stuff later, but you just want to know about the big iphones right now, so we're just gonna tell you so we were there dear and I were there. I would say that event was muted at it's funny. How people ask a lot about like? What's the vibe I will tell you right now. The vibe at any tech event does not matter like if you have
a bunch of journalists and employees of your company together in a room and they're excited it doesn't make the products could live there crabby, it doesn't make the products bad like it just doesn't matter. And with a vi, I would say I'll just say it: the vibe was kind of muted. Were they going to do? Are they gonna surprise us? Are they gonna like make a move to like really jumped the thing Is it going to be innovative in everyone's out of it? In his letter of updates the funds, that's more or less what they delivered No, no one! No one was like unreasonably like. Oh my god. This is amazing. No one was saying: I'm really disappointed. It was just like yet that's. This is what we hope to you. Do you? Did it cool great? Let's go look at it that was thick. It was a chill relaxed, you made the things fat and keen outweighs they moved it along really fast. They like up running, and they ended with apple retail, which I think is notable, will come back to that in the end, all right. What's our the front, so as we expected there, Basically, rather the ten are in the ten s and change the names so the ten
not revved, into the iphone eleven, which I think is a being full name, because now it is just the iphone, that's the iphone. You should get what we saying about the ten. Are they added ultra wide camera, that's basically what they did. They swapped the telephoto for the ultra wide while the art and have a teller had just the regular, widely added a second. I'm rapid anyway, will come back to that. Yes, they added a second cameras and alter why'd. They read the processor too, Thirteen bionic! That's what did there? That's a new car it's like that's what they did and they changed the design of the back a little bit sore. So it's square and the camera bump is a square. Then they took the and ass in the tennis max they range, then he iphone eleven pro and the iphone eleven pro max, which believe, is the most unwieldy product name apple has ever come out with and we have a new, oh I'd screen. They gets a lot brighter that sets the big one. The screens awesome up more power vision, they added a third camera so that ten ass already had the standard
and the tele in any area, the ultra wide to that one as well and other back his man, that's it that's like more or less as a slightly faster lp camera, so the difference in these funds in processing base a camera in the normal in the ultra wide the pro ads display. It adds a mat. Finnish rack adds a telephoto camera in sightly, faster entity, which is logistical impossible thing to measure our test for most people. It happens, see where it doesn't. One other thing that the pro ads, which I think is actually a little bit noteworthy, although, as I have mixed feelings about, it adds a smaller size option. The the default iphone eleven is the exact same size as the iphone ten are, and it's big. The size is like large and the iphone eleven pro is the same size as the iphone tennis yeah for ten, which is just slightly smaller.
still a big phone? I dont think that that the the standard eleven is so much bigger than the pro that it's gonna drive. You crazy, but I do guarantee you that there are people in the world who are probably going to spend the extra money to get the pro, because it's just a little bit smaller yeah. I answer. If there is one other thing that I think is worth mentioning in terms of new stuff We should get into why in that's battery life. Yes, I e that eleven pro and eleven from acts, a big difference from the ten asked is that they no longer have three d touch and they are slightly thicker and heavier. So I think they took out the three d touch stuff. They made the phones a little bit bigger and a stuffed a much bigger battery. in these phones, so the eleven programme for hours of additional matter life, the eleven pro max, it's five hours, additional matter life
that is compared to the eleven which has a more efficient processor, gets one hour of additional battery life. So you don't get those huge jumps over the previous model. Despite refinements, I shoved a bigger battery, but this is exciting and I dunno if it's important, but it's it, feels important as a statement that we can finally make things thicker as we did a lot of work, making thin it's fun when its then, but it's not good. If it's, if you're gonna sacrifice on heat performance, performers, performers or battery perform yeah it's funny, because it I didn't even realize it was thicker or heavier until I was done at the event as like in the hotel room. I'm reading the verges coverage, and I see him garden bird, be like hey it's thicker and have your history I think your battery sounds like I, you know I was there as holding it. I know we made our videos. We did all the things I carry a tennis
acts everyday. I picked up the the eleven pro max did. Not notice right is imperceptibly figure. heavier and you get five hours of additional battery life there's a lesson there. Everybody now do laptops. So those are that kind of the top line changes. We should divinities cameras cassettes, really, I think, all the action heaters in the theaters making a face at me. Why don't? Why? Don't you think so? So, okay, the all the action is in the cameras, and this was my like thing. I wrote before the event like that. gotta they gotta do something with the cameras they at least have to get up to par with the current state of android cameras, which is quality of the pixel number of lenses of everybody else, like do well with the cameras- and I think that is where, like most of like the thing to pay attention to most of the action and for a lot of people,
Most of the reason to upgrade is but for me, even though there's not a whole lot else to say about it, because we've already set it like to me the the most important thing the best upgrade here, assuming they did. The work on the cameras is that the small pro got that extra four hours of battery life. But again I would also say, but talk about the cameras, why I mean there's something there in that and they re framing of these devices right right that the iphone ten came out and put out the iphone eight. The iphone ten is the future of the iphone. All this. This is, new gesture system, new screen, o add the whole thing in a couple years later, the iphone eleven is not estates, Oh! It's really wants a a seven twenty p l city. It looks fine. I think a lot of people have ten hours and think it let's just fine the oled screens on the pros, just look way better and it's still like a seven. Oh, they cut prices. This is noted. Yes, yeah yeah. The iphone eleven starts at six. Ninety nine seven, forty nine, instead of seven, forty nine. So that's a huge!
statement of this is gonna, be the mainstream phone right. It's any it's more. in before it's competitive on price against flagships. That offers you a bunch of the features of the flagships and then, if you want to spend a thousand dollars for the best stuff apple can give you and you can get the and notably that six ninety nine price is like really competitive. With that, like just sub ultra premium, tier of android phones like it's head to head with, like the one plus seven pro, basically right, yeah and- and that is interesting- because I don't know how many people are actually comparison: shopping like a high and entered phone and iphone like their especially iphone eleven by. If someone was like, I want an iphone, but look at these fancy. New android phones like the iphone eleven, is a pretty bold statement of now. You don't need to go that way. You can. You can spend your seven hundred bucks and get an iphone yeah with his hat and twenty four
yeah I mean that's, it is a significant serve, expect downgrade compared with the one plus stuff, but right, I think more. People always in america. This is not true and other places in which talk whether to but, if you're, blocked, in the eye message, while the garden, where one of apples jobs is to like make that garden like a very nice garden ride to keep you from and thinking about leaving it, and now they ve got a bunch of like price points inside the garden with competitive feature sets. We are like you now. I could leave em like endure the switching costume. Green bubble and getting all my new apps and google failing me relentlessly, whatever it is, whatever whatever happens, I'd these walls or use I pay iraq's might be happy, I think that's one of apples, jobs, and I think that I love the walled guarded I think everybody knows. I feel what the old garden, but the maintaining of the wall guard, I think it leasing. I'd say it's apple has to meet. It has to be competitive inside the wall garden. I think that-
Does it really well? I haven't you got it in this. I think a lot this will say way right into the camera. You go to like the chinese market, where I message has no hold on everyone's jumping at all times, is a massively competitive ecosystem among andred. My last day, then they ve got to be competitive on hardware. Specks in writing. You see that with the proud. I think you see how these cameras so because that's a segue into the cameras. I think you look at the phones apple wanted us to compare. I found eleven pro to you. Look at the. Out in the world there's a bunch. android phones, that three cameras as a bunch reynard I have a billion features for their camera apps. Apple, basically added all of those like there's a tunnel choosing the camera. Now it's got a bunch of stuff built into it. They didn't go full periscope, no- and they also didn't put a bunch of important camera settings inside the camera, like some of them, are still in the settings app which is just
raise. It is ridiculous to switch the video resolution from like tennessee peter for K. You have to jump out to the settings app like debt like what is one of the main settings that you want to change on the fly when you're like opening video is. Am I gonna, blow my sword and forty sixty or an hour to. I just need to safeguard video and that's like into the settings that any acts what's focused. The because is eleven is basically saying that the telephone, so three cameras on the pro. Main camera f. One point: eight twelve mega pixels it here's the sensor is slightly different. Is down one hundred per cent focus pixels sense is that it can actually dress higher. I so am, I feel, a bit less nor easy that I think the tennis I was just re reading our tennis review. You are not oppressive that camera. It's funny. How tentative I wasn't saying like medium photos or medium like I know how I I've been using this camera four year. I think ever
This harass, you just wrote that grey peace like this look like smartphones and I can work on reuniting view mike. Why was I so polite to these both of butter they look weird. If you agree with me that may look, we like the song hd are in the tennis sensor, they generated summit. I think aesthetically, weird photos You know they pulled up all the shadows, the dropped, all the highlights. Everything was very flat, the sense you're very noisy, and they did it. Kind of noise reduction, so crushed a lot of detail so compared to the pixel compared to them like the samson bonds issue, lotta sharpening. I, the iphone just well behind an egg it's funny, how how polite I was in that region from watching watching the keener online like I've handled the phone, but from just a robust perspectives seemed like apples fully focused on sweater detail this year, We are, of course, about set we'll get to that. So they say
I got a slightly different sensor for the main camera f one twenty lens, the telephoto and in a pro is a little bit faster, its efforts to point o gap in an ultra wide is. F two point four, which even if you do it like low weird low light also had suffered for cigarettes, different lenses through different sensors going on apple, says they're, all told beggar pixels and they insisted that they're. All of basically, like you comparable called we often times when you get a multi sensor, camera android, like the main ones great and then the wider, the telephone, our I kind of garbage there there, but there clearly cheap and crappy compared to the And- and this has been true of the iphone as well, the telephoto had a better lens right, telephoto lens, like he had different foreshortening pros like to use it. You can like make all kinds of argument. But slower lines or worse sensor. I never used it because it always look worse me, so
fully than new, faster lens and tele undecided, better sensors orinoco make improve then they added a night mode, which is something that the android phones have done for a long I am very much really interesting. I played with a little bit its automatic, so it senses in the dark he get a little yellow circle of the top. You get a meter at the bottom like a dial and you can select how if you want the shudder to like you, want night mode to operate. Basically, so you can turn it off. It starts with like a suggestion and you can like wrap it up or down depending on what you want to do with it, but it goes starts like we think in this mode. It should be three seconds I have seconds or whatever. Yet so you hit the shudder. You hold still then counts down three seconds and he goes up to like nine or ten yep. It said their goal was not to make night into day, which is something that we're very critical of other fun modes for doing. We will have to see so they're trying to do this. Like very naturalistic sort of nightmare. They added a bunch of new portrait mode effects,
It's your shoulders, I think the cool thing, but the porter vote, as you can now do it and more lenses and you could before right. You could before he could only you're on the wide. Now you can do anything it's on the white and the ultra ultraviolet wider before you do it on a telephone so needs I switched to the true portrait mode on that on the tennis. It would kick you into the tally, and now you can kind of do it everywhere and they're they're faking it a bunch of points, then that the big trick that they added was when you are in the main lens or the telly, You find her is like the viewfinder and then it shows you what's outside of the frame of the main evelyn's you're gonna shoot. Sir, you're you're, using that the mainland it'll show you here's a stop the altar. I can see that is really interesting to me, I can quite caught this and then I was playing with it more the hands on it, is actually compositing, both sensors
It sounds like showing you what the main sensor sees here and that it's grabbing the stuff from the other sensor to show you the top and the bottom and like warping it to fit. So if you like, jiggle the phone, they all move at different rates. It's like super impressive. Technically they as everything going and warping in real time and showing you one image, but if you like try to break it, you candidates, like it just shows you how cool it is. There are some features related to that one. It just helps you zoom out by other seas where salaries, but if you're like shooting a video, there's a setting aside by default capture outside the frame Shooting video somebody cut off of your frame, it will intelligently grab it from the other sensor, unlike map it in which is super cool You can turn that setting on for photos as well, it's off by default, and this is for apple- was like terms, he will just wanna crop people out of their photographs. I didn't want to turn it on its. It's called future ex girlfriend.
So it's very user on and then there's another setting to have those changes made automatically or not. So I that to me is really interesting, like they're they're trying to use only sensors together in we're ways, I do not have a good sense for what these Look like the main thing I was critical of us here is that smart hdr was away too aggressive. It looked super weird and the camera Noisy southerners russian is out of control. Apple, show as photos It is great that they did this. I think this is, level of honesty and most companies and give you when, if you go back and watch the keynote, they show you the technical details of every phone in the show you so just look at em, and it's like I also thirty one, one, one. Three thousand shutter speed maria, so twenty one, five and shudder, speed and like yet any camera looks good. If you have a floodlight point, Your subjects in here casually like insane We too are low, as of course, I think,
Those images to me do not. They don't tell a story right like sorry she get better. Well, I don't know I saw is incredibly well at images and incredibly beautiful places where you have to use it. then Paul, there's the mode that you're talking about the sweater mode, sweater mode, and we only to see two pictures and sweater mode want It's a dude in a sweater, and then we saw like a lady in a different hunter way, or the pictures we saw called deep fusion right is called deep. so smart hd are in the pixel, for example, their their hd our modes. They take a base frame and then depending on which camera are using, so that like, for example, the pixel. When you pick up the karen point in something it starts capturing underexposed frames, then you like hit the button I was a base. Raymond grabs, a bunch of under exposed frames around it, mergers together. You get an. She are forgotten, pixel! That's where you know the extra dynamic range detail, The islanders essentially same thing only captures one overexposed friend too bright. So like
a thing that is interesting and fun. Semantic argument that we will almost certainly have in mere moments is, like you know, and taking the thirty one syllable attempting the photo got to come, and I promise you vote so that we, at least with smart hd, are unlike the pixels She are there's a base frame right, you like hit the button and it it picks up base frame and then, like adds detailed debates, yeah, my understanding of deep fusion, which has not shipping it, we haven't used it. We want Until it comes out, I saw a photo of a sweater right like that's. What I know about cheap fusion is that it's you pick up the phone, its capturing a bunch of images, it takes them. Images. It doesn't have it through base frame. It interpreter two different based frames, we use them together and then ads and all the retail from the other images. What are these two base friendliest time of the over exposed in the under expense? its unclear to me what it is actually doing, but it is
It is basically manufacturing a photo like the pixel level. Instead of this, like we see a face, we're did you see under its most framed poland, detail right. What? If the photo is the time stamp? If the moment that you clicked the shutter button is a time stamp, and so yours telling the phone I want a photo. That looks like things. Look right now and then all the frames capture of forward back in time. It's trying to bring those close to look like whatever stuff looked like at the timestamp. Unless people were blinking or people that you don't like we're in. For a I mean, that's like what it's doing so it shoots a deep fusion. It's a total of nine images before even push the shutter, it's already captured. For short, for secondary images. When you press the shutter, takes a long exposure image
and then the nero engine fuses I'm altogether and hits it pixel by pixel to pick like the correct tones in an extract detail right. So no point: do you have like a bit? frame, which is like the thing to me that, like all the sordid she our stuff is, we have a photo that we took and we're gonna use like all this additional d. Well from under and overexposed photos to like fill in that photo like this is the photo which is why? So it all each is right like if you'd took each offers a diesel dslr before you would basically a bracket and emerge back right. This is like you're taking of the basic taking a video, it different exposures and then you're sort of like merging that video into one photo. That happened over time. It's I'm nuts. I think I'm so excited by this, just as its
pushing the level of computational photography like well beyond what cameras do ebbene at what point? Could you just take a video you just you just to have someone sit down for them? portrait. You start filming them from one angle. Move around a little bit just to get some more angles, and then you like, when you imposed. You say this is the angle from which I want a a photo to be generated, and then you just take all that. I guess get all the exposure stuff. How I'd like to efficiently walkie mutually what is a photo debate? it is we're having it in Europe this really basic have photos reconstructed like a hundred years ago right, like the dawn of diet, firstly to the minutes, and they were like that's right likely, but that fair camera was things still preserved unless they photographer,
You know like a drunk praetorian adena out. I've never been really Israel, my understanding victorian photographers, or they are all quite tipsy. This to me, is we're hitting the point where the camera. When you hit the button, is no longer like trying to capture. What's in front of you, it's trying to it's trying to recreate an impression of that for you, and so I am very I'm very curious to see like hey. How does this work be? area. We should I point we're like the evans, who take a burst of photos of your friends. the out in its me like ok this one, she was smiling. He wasn't we're gonna like for his face and for the smiling one right and this one like they weren't. Looking now our right of veto is vanity fair photos with you for the high when issue was famous actor in the world is like that photo doesn't exist right. All those people in separately, and a common will groups and cop that further together we're just like quickly getting to the place where the pixel level we're hopping. There's nothing to keep apple from companies like everyone smiling
how eyeballs and brains work gray our eyes just moving around in our brain constructs, something that seems to us like an image or amend You know in my memory, you guys were smiling at me, but they were frowns disappointing. All images are composites, kneeling, every single one of them. I disagree. I think, most their composite at the neural level, on your brain and at the neural engine in the iphone doubled its photographs that were the lie this whole time. He also, this is a thing is like you're like oh, but there's no based frame of a moment in time, but there was never a perfect moment in time, instant, because that thing like it's like Zenos paradox, you cannot you get half way halfway. Half way like a second is forever half a second like the exposure is never like instantaneous like the like newtonian sense of universal dino, limit going to the global level now this thing,
now is an incredible how eu us right there no in your mind, that there is no based framework. The based frame was a composite in the first place. We just like didn't think of it that way, because we have the technology till I think about what it was your doing over time to say. What's right now, there is no base ran because this feature is not shift its one picture of a sweater ends through yet I m very excited to have this argument when this does ship and we get some more details on how it actually works. I think there are some philosophical questions about computational photography that we should have I have because most people think you hit the shutter the shutter opens and closes. It hits a sensor that that is the photo right and, if we're quickly coming to a place where your smartphone, which is most common cameron, existence is making things not look exactly ground, looking like enhanced reality where its able to address,
el to an environment where there, but you were not perceiving data, like words recently cut, eating the impression reality that you wanted, but that wasn't there, like its wishes, have like we should start talking. Battle journalist from buying iphone twelve, because the pictures they won't be accurate to reality and so like in the sure journalists are we using crappy or cameras and everybody else in rio, quality of life, we frowning at all like his traveling at multiple angles and sensors, typically only capture one angle of the light. That's travellers is, theoretically, you could see around objects. If you could see all the angles of light. Yes, and then you get one of those camera or you get one of those smartphones that have like forty five lenses on the back, like the lytro cameras yeah, this is where it was interesting to me that this is one it didn't ship, my understanding is that, like this was supposed to be the feed and they media, which is like a big. I was thirteen story like the irish through
release cycle is pretty messy its catawampus there's a technical term, so again. We have. We have one picture, a sort of everybody side and like the second fisher sweater, but we ve got to see as well. That's it that's what we know of diffusion doesn't work, does not work, it could never ship right was here's the thing, but you ve got these three cameras in the back of the pro you got night mode, you ve got new effects important mode. You got the steep fusion thing you see them aggressively having to chase, in particular the chinese fund manufacturer. Because if they want to sell a bunch, iphones in china and no one's using less engine, there's no lock in then they have to compete on specks in hardware, and you see atley, apple having to do that in the apple way. I think is really interesting, so they give,
They've added a bunch of lenses, they've added a bunch of effects have added a bunch of modes which talked with the front camera. It's been upgraded, it's an upgraded, it's twelve and then they they do the thing that samsung does where, like you, can choose between wide or not so why, but it still the same lens, basically yeah. So when you haven't in portrait it like crops in orbit, rotated landscape crept saddler that its neat like I I think the wide angle selfie lens on the on the pixel is like still the best demo that I've given to a phone on accepting people. I am most excited about, so it's great that, like competed a little bit, I will say that The camera app overall is like right on the Adg of like becoming samsung in terms of we're going to like give you a bunch of features as because we're gonna impress you with feature itis, and then you don't really know how to use any of them or find them, and you forget about them. It's like
almost there? You know they. They did this thing where they changed the shutter button. So you hold your finger down on the shutter button to record a quick video. Then what did you want burst? Well then, you, like you like slide it down for burst, and you slide it up to like stick it into like a stuck recording things. You know to hold your finger down very clever once you see it you're like. Oh, that's, really, clever, that's great! You can like sway, over into the the lens frame from that shudder area, and they don't like reveal their other different options for you. Instead of switching mode, you can like get too like that's where you, in a flash on or off. Settings are also a very clever nice touch, but again a thing you need to discover, so they ve packed enough into this camera now, where they ve hit the limit of what feels apple ask in it.
camera interface of like simplicity, that literally every single android manufacturer copied for years yeah, but now and er apple is like getting to the place where, like they need to figure out how to cram this many things into a camera interface and still have it be comprehensible. It's ironic: then I'm complaining that does not one more setting there for the hd hd start up there you go the irene. They live every organize it a little bit. They have a new font which phil schiller called that and sage SF, camera, which he said is adequate so proud, which was very funny. It was like. You is obviously a huge out, but it was very. Why did they go into depth on that like? What is different about s of camera? Is it is? It is so because it looks like that. Weird fond, camera lenses was something I have an idea which I will say we did not look at it deeply enough compared to that while the focus of our streamline frantic hands on time was like. Let's look at this, these fonts sets up I mean like they added in eighteen. What? U s? We see charter in a box
I heard you it for the pro not for them then I think I heard like she when that happened, ass, you. But it's? U s to lightning. It lightning seems like a pretty charger actually like, I don't think apple is great. It making small talk. Like there's a part of you like you, just let anchored there and they sell them, but the iphone eleven still find what right yeah yeah, I did not know until dieter told me on the verge cast last week that the iphone still shipped with five watch workers should articles. And then they owe a display is its eighteen percent more efficient so in terms of power. It has its hundred its brighter and normal twelve hundred bed nets brighter.
We're doing in hdr mode like dolby vision, yes, but only in the peaks as a twelve hundred upright a lot of people say: oh it's two hundred brighter it's actually only twelve hundred brighter in the peaks in hdr mode. So, like you know, the brightest thing in an hdr video can get up to twelve hundred, but the number you should actually care about is eight hundred brighter outside yeah. That's eight internets normally outside. If you watch it, dolby vision movie from itunes or whenever gotta peaks can at twelve That is actually impressive. I have not been impressed. with the iphone tennis's claimed hdr display this actually looks pretty bright to me. Free named it It is now be super retina ecstasy are display, which leaves them space for next year to become The super retina promotion extra hour display when they finally increase or fresh right to any else. Gill nets common for you, super retina promotion extra hour display
so they pulled the extra hour foreigner. Their pro extra are dissuade they put out the mac proud. which is like an insanely, expensive display and a perfectly color calibrated. It has this like peak brightness that nothing else can do blah blah blah and now they're like phone as it too, and this is just about his bright, whose son display I don't know it's not. it looks ruin ice. It has this thing that I do, quite understand that I'm gonna dig on special audio. The iphone eleven has this too. So it supports division has all the lights they are, but then it has something odd spatial adi, so you're watching in the demo that they showed us, was a godzilla king of the monsters which is a horrible movie. Just I have to tell you it's not a good movie. I own it. That's the mistake I made. I bought it on itunes, I own a lot has I'm dumb. Ok, I oughta now it was like you know. It was like not answer right yet, but I do is doing the thing that was done enough.
wanted to watch my own area, I got window denouncing this movie near as they are. And I thought with what was said. Oh god, not this move it forward and giving the demos like our you'd, like now she's dead there was a general that movie is envision, amazon, itunes, books very bright. he's out of monsters eyes all the good stuff is happening, explosions or bright and then their their thing is. Last year, the iphone tennis had wide stereo, which was indeed very impressive, like the iphone, so our best sounding phones, I've seen in a while, at least when his internal speakers, now leave out of the single spatial audio, which alongside at most so why, games on the iphone can use the spatial audio encoder, but they darcy ammo scams and then like Tat most movies get the benefit of spatial ADI. I I guess I don't quite understand it dig on it and figure out what it means, but there's basely
Second audio encoding next hope. Regular, widespread saga youtube video. This podcast gets a benefit of wide stereo, which basically was like across talk eliminated from for my channel said sounded water. Spatial ideas like made. It was Sunday gets around you and I'm unclear how it plays with admiral, like a youtube. Video doesn't get spatial audio by default. Are you just talking about the speakers? this. Doesn't help me at all. If I plug in well, first, I buy a lightning two. I bought an adapter, so I can plug my headphones. Theoretically, I could plug headphones into this or, were you know, apple sells airpods right. I could connect headphones to a phone here like like Why would you do this? Why would you watch a movie with surrounds down from this phone speakers? Why? I think it That is true. had funds are now so complicated. Eminent people just run their speakers all the time people watch
concentrate on it for I'd, do it so it sounds good. The speakerphone is like better because of it. That's the thing people use and anything that is true when I say it out loud. but some bad in so I can have a better syrians. Washing refers rigours of heart, which is a real real line that apples walking up to what these phones, the spatial, helps you none at all with headphones. Now is, as far as I can tell it. This is all speaker base stuff. So that's like a big ceta changes. The eleven has a special area to cereals. Bro? That's like it's it's basically and again. I have to keep saying it because it's on the list faster, lt red, but you have to be in a place with a faster lc network for to work for you, which is more likely for you to find than five g, and so there's five day I found that sure that's a big dance missing. That was there extremely dumb twitter fights about this event. They went down there. One was about whether people were clapping or crying during the event. Yet I would say that people who have fallen
don't. I know that we start out and gathered for satellite. I ever went to. I went to a three lock and you just looked at me and said: don't clap everyone's going to clap, we don't clap or journalists. I assume that conversation was over in two thousand and eight If you are having it again, eleven years from now buy it, the media doesn't clap like apple employees, are there and they clap, and maybe some people clap and then the crying play, but your heart wrenching add for the apple lodge where it was like sickly peoples like babies, you weren't dead and, like the ass, some people got them up like now. That's the point of the ed. I did outcry, I completely understand why that add would make you away misty, because it s a apples.
Good at doing that and be like that's it's what it's designed to do. Can I ask you a question about how emotions work cause? I don't understand them yeah, so where I'm okay and I get it that if something is like genuinely like touching heart, wrenching enough that like if you tear up like you, can't be blamed for that. That's not like you being a bachelor. That's just like real human, genuine emotion, great fully on board if apple had created something so incredibly amazing and good that you had the opposite. Spontaneous reaction of you just couldn't not clap in the same way, you can't not cry. Would that be. Ok I don't, I don't think I've ever in my life felt I can't clap so yeah like nothing is ever struck me as now, I'm clapping- and I dont know I like it. I think the clapping is not ok, but if you a whoop, sometimes a whooped, can like sneak out like a drive like a cry of pain.
yeah. I don't have any of you if you guys that was I. I had a cry of pain during this fair. When I finally style enlightening, I mean, if you go back and watch apple events some years past even can hear me like laughing. I quite lastly thrust like whatever here, it's a show your audience, I just think journalist clapping has been laid, For so long that fact there was a twitter fight about I'd, just like exhausting YAP, but anyway the other twitter fight was, should they have made a five g iphone and the reach the reasoning is people are hang onto phones for three. For five years in theory, five g in three for five years is gonna, be a real thing and so to future proof yourself, because you're going to upgrade on a slower cadence, it would be nice to buy a five g phone now. I do not agree with this. I absolutely agree with geographers. What's your reasoning,
I understand that people are keeping their phones for longer and longer now great, but that also means like You want a reason to upgrade your phone when it's time like one of the reasons we'll give their friends on time as a year rear iterative upgrades are not worth it. There are no five g networks. Now the five each it sets are bad, so ok, yeah, maybe twelve months or our twenty four months from now live in a city, and someone has finally wonder your foolish race to five g. Fine, ok at that point that you're still missing out, but you're still operating lp world you so that your old phone, it's like you, that's a magic incapable. And when you do spend the money to upgrade, will receive very meaningful return for that investment resources any additional money you spend now getting nothing and then we wonder. Inanimate like it just seems, die
Is that you're not you're paying for you're paying for hope, and I don't think you should pay for hope and think of how much of your day you spend away from the maximum throughput of lt and then also think about four hours of battery, I kiss it goodbye yeah, I mean maybe one of the reasons I made the phones heavier and thicker this years to get that bigger battery in there, that's a promise they're making. Now they cannot go backwards, Rihanna chef for five hours off the max's battery next year and they add a five g radio, so they're, damn right and apple thinks their five g phones are like all but done. Rightly no ship, certainly used the phrase sign them themselves and they know it. Ships are going to use because, as does the whole thing within turning up things at the stuff and near, maybe they don't know why they basel they bought in TEL Aviv. They know what you have certainly use they just those demand is that team better than intel that I wouldn't be surprised. If the next iphone is not five g
I think there is. There is a lot of rumours after that they will put out one maybe maybe we'll do the thing where one fancy model the eleven x s max five g five priority, I mean it. The names are out of control, but I arson I got. Dram had a great strain, our second this week that, like verizon, is lighting up and I fell stadiums. Five g is the big promotion that, during unlike the hand, even get the whole stadium, right click. The small print is like certain seeding areas will have five g and it's like you can't you you can get the whole stadium was I, it seems, are quite large but there's in cities, the away The way I would deploy five g is just put some loose ethernet cables on the ground and, and then people carry adapters and they plugin
their phone- and you know how I feel about you, you're out of inches many people for a lower cost us that's cyber punk. We gotta go back to the days of jacking in yeah. Yeah, but in in, like old phone booths have like hundreds of even a donaldson, then I'll. Think of you right now, if you're an executive at like a netgear or links us, we should probably emerged at this point. I don't even know, but you should pitch like the netgear gee network with existing eu stricken ethernet, cable them like old. Let your switches for you you got like, whereas for those let's go nuts, but like seriously any time, there's a hard line. There's like an ethernet, you can use you plug it in right, like if it's there and you're sitting down you're like oh, this will be faster like there should. I guess we should go back to those days like internet cafes should have lines. The future of the iphone is neither a dongle, I think, is where we varieties anyway, it does not have five g. That's the that was the other big twitter fight that occurred. Yeah. Like is this a mistake. I do not think anyone cares. I think right now it is tech.
I, the five hours in the united states are basic millimeter wave networks. Chris Welch's test bunch of them they're very fast. if you are standing on the right street corner in chicago in any that mid ban five g at work to get online. That's going to take a long time yeah. My whole thing is like the very best five g chipset available today to shipping. The phone today is going to be utter garbage and four compared to what's going to. For years, and I think that's all it's. It is also true that apple literally like signed its deal with Qualcomm settled a lawsuit spent billions. on, entails modem team. Yet like there, There is a little bit of a reset around it and we know that there are very particular rather chips. Speaking of chips and wireless chips,
You weren't talking got you one. Did you figure out? What you want is so its ultra wide band chip, silicon kick out an ultra wide ban signal and it is able to see other ultra wide ban, ships that kick out ultra wide signals and then their able to locate each other in space. So you're able to be like oh, that cars over there or oh, that I photos over there and I can airdrop to those are the two examples they gave us. The urgent thing is coming. You can put your phone it another phone like their dick and airdrop more easily they like put that person to the top of your airdrop list. The other example he gave was like pointed at a car to a market. You could also see pointing it out like a tile yeah rumour going in like apples, apples, doing a tile killer right, yeah, like this isn't like radar. It's not like mapping a room. There might be a our applications for it someday. Who knows, but it's like a thing that they clearly aren't taking full advantage of right now, that's in there that is able to detect other
things that are like it is kind of like radar zone, the technology, what kinda yeah we're makes it different than a typical wireless radio, like you know, have wifi, has channels right or think of a cat. Five cable right, like you got multiple wires in it. Right like typical wireless is, is, is narrow through one of those channels at it in my in the in our inside of a it's narrow and one channel typically, and then you multiplex them. If you're trying to do more and it's a continuous stream, it's like a sine wave or whatever, where ultra wide band, fills the whole spectrum all at once with a big pulse, but the pulse is very short: that's the that's the technological difference and that pulse design makes a good for this location stuff and then the location stuff makes it potentially like really great in junction with other wireless technologies, because if you know it
Really? Where something is it's easier to send a lot of data to it instead of blasting a lot of data in all directions? Now you can be formed to the thing, I'm very, very cited about you. I hope it's not just total complete proprietary told open, Did you call? my friend nice things possible for each take about about them, is getting worse, Yeah I mean you're, like you know how everyone thought you were smiling but yeah. I got news for you buddy how about this when you're, taking a photo? Theoretically that the? U w, b or the ultra wide band, can find things inside a very smaller like, like maybe with ten centimeter precision or maybe even less so you take.
photo of your friend that all the ones there are holding iphones their faces- art blurred, but then everybody else's faces are blurred. Ok make it like the blue, the blue bubble of photography, ass usual. that's a lotta. It's just another way to be mean, dear friends. What, if I wait so just to zoom out on you, a little bit. We only noticed it because it was unlike the speck sheet slide at the end of the presentation. They didn't say it on stage. I didn't mention it. They didn't say a word about it. They put up the specs and says apple designed the one chip. Then we like out there were like working, the phones or talking to people they brought up the car door thing twice right. You can imagine unlocking a car, it's like what car has you want to. Maybe Paul. That's the first one upper proprietary right, like cars, will suddenly have similar chips in them. You're gonna unlock your car with. Maybe who knows, but that's the example I
the thing that happened was they were supposed to launch this like tag which we ve seen all of this work, is about there's been some weeks or so my codes. The whole thing this like tile competitor. It was supposed to be on state Do you want? Is there to support it right? Lifestyle My keys, I mean the room, the! U on ships. Can see each other I turned to the right right like magic? It in that drawing getting closer cause, that's what it can do, but they ship it. So they just put it on the screen and they're like they have this fanciful story about unlocking your car in air airdrop, getting better and x p. I don't know if you're familiar with n x p, they have put out a press release, they have created a concept vw car and their concept. Key fob uses ultra wideband so that you know, instead of like clicking a button. You can like make a little like in a key turning gesture or some other little gesture that only you know and that unlocks your car yeah way ahead, gesture to unlock like you're holding the key fog, and you like go like for in a circle that that's what
amongst the car low can someone else. Annex peace, buttons are proven. Technology and gestures are often quite a bad and worse than budget like did they never use the we. I would also like to issue a press release in response to annex fraud is journalism, rival, press releases in response to smoke its automotive alone, you D, be, will enable tray automated trailer. Hedge activation only have a passenger detection, automated valley parking, handsfree parking, lot access and drive through payments prisoner name. A few. Those are all things up. I think there is some sort of like we are able to dot standard around this stuff anyway. It's there, I'm all, but certainly there to support this, like I can better tiled symmetrical tag. It didn't show up it's like to write diffusion. I think was supposed to be the big feature of the camera that is, that salmon later they're not going to tease a hardware product, they already did that with airpower. We know how that went.
They ve learned that lesson. They're gonna wait for it to be done and ready, but I think this trip is. There is financial support that thing in whatever other, ranging uses. Why do you think they didn't ship? Reverse wireless charging? well the phone to like her pods cause. I don't think anybody cares yeah, that's her right, like I dunno like it, doesn't occur to me that I want to do that ever it's real cute, the samsung out and watching the samsung and it's like yeah, but I'm prob. How often am I on a coffee shop and some one has the exact same phone as me, but that happens a little more often with iphone gear in any. we cool like are just traveling it'll, be cool. If I don't have to carry an apple watch charger around, I can just like put my watch on the phone and charge at night, but, like I think, that's why they didn't include it, because the apple watch uses slightly different charging than standard. You know, whatever they use for everything else, and so they they couldn't figure out how to get that on the iphone. You think, if I like it, it's a
a key conspiracy theory, but that's that I, like you conspiracy, theory, wasn't the good news. Is they make all of those products? One imagines that proper may that change through Otherwise we should take a break. Come back together, watch taiwan. We're gonna review them, what's gonna happen I will tell you right now. I think most people should buy an iphone eleven, but we're going to put that to the test so stay tuned for that stuff. Okay, we'll take a break, we're gonna talk about the apple watch and the ipad. Hey, I'm ryan reynolds at mid mobile. We like to do the opposite of what big wireless. Does they charge you a lot? We charge you a little so naturally, when they announced they'd be raising their prices due to inflation, we decided to def.
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I totally want this apple watch, so it's a series. Five. It has the s five system on chip, which means whatever what it means that they got do stuff at it. same processor. So what's new is they have a display that is called l, t p, o it's a custom version of an old led display? If we want to get deeper into the technicals, you could make me open up a lead info dot com or something and figure it out, but that combined with some of the custom like processors have allows them to have a variable refresh rate on the screen from sixty hurts all the way down to one hurts and that they say is what allows them to have an always on screen on the apple watch, so that You could just see the time without having to make a stupid motion with your arrest and you're not going to offend anybody by looking at the time it's just sort of there, and I'm very happy about that. So they added that they had a compass and they are even there
like one more thing, that's it sell bans the reason it s. Five, the press circumvent the s. Five chip is the same. They added the compass. Added wider array of cell ban, so they can support, emerge automatic emergency calling for the cell models internationally more countries. That's it exactly the prices, I think basically stayed the same, which is great day. You know you ve got like a bunch of front casings now so there's the stainless steel there's titanium in a cobbler finishes their ceramic and their steel and, and then there's. You know that your mess stuff and the nike stuff and blah blah blah blah blah blah and so very excited for it, just because it has the always on screen at something I wanted. Since the Earl literally, regional one. It's something that andred that, like the one thing everywhere have such great that's great. I do wish that they had put sleep.
Acting in another thing that was heavily rumoured that didn't show up, I'm using sleep tracking, you see plus plus that's a great name. It's the best here it automatically tracks on the apple watch. The visualization are like ok, but it does pipe into apples, health app. So you can get all the graphs you all of you know whatever I've, lies at the very ability of like when I go to bed and when I wake up is like all over the map unaware didn't know before it didn't occur to me that was son. I wish that had been built in, but it's not so The question is: why not is a battery life They say that they still get eighteen hours of battery life with the always on display will see. I think that they under promised on battery life on the serious, for I think the series for better life is way better than they said. That said, it was I get more than eighteen hours on it all the time
I'll, be curious to see if the series five also over delivers on the promise battery lifetime. Apologies. If this is a dumb question, but if you slept with the watch on wind, would you charge the watch so this is? This is a fascinating question. it it's a different every time, what is a photo yeah so like I'll charge it when you go to take a shower, but they usually you know I dunno about you, but like that's not long enough to like fully charge it, and so like maybe like before you go to bed throw it on the charger, while you like do your, like, you know, brush your teeth, routine check. The windows are open or closed or whatever they're supposed to be a little bit there so like I'm, actually charging my apple watch and little bits and bob's a couple of times a day now, instead of just like thrown on the thing overnight Eventually, like I get out of sync, it's just going to die, and so I just have to throw it in the charge overnight. I don't track my sleep that night, but I like I like subtracting. I think it's neat. I hate wearing something on my wrist. When I sleep. That's like the thing is,
away from it. I am going to convert you because having your wristwatch be your alarm and having the incredibly good haptics and tactics on the apple watch be the first thing is so much better than beeping alarm. If you have a chance to wake up without annoying anybody in the room and its lesson and intrusive, the one thing that the withings smart watch does: is it tracks your sleep cycle enough, so that it can know what stage of sleep you're in and it will you give it a window of like forty five minutes or twenty or whatever, and then when you're in that later stage of sleep, that's when it sets the alarm off on your wrist yeah. So here you feel less grumpy. waking up which has great. Can I tell you a story about how I woke up this morning? Ok, yes, as it is a true story, as avows disaster, as you know, they neared the main one waste from an answer I was delayed, I landed at like too Thirty in the morning I got home, I want to add a foreign warning, so this
like falsely dead to the world like eight, a m like I'm for hours and sleep dead the world and that he thought tat on the forehead Just goes. Are you serious gotten a locked out thank wrecking the doorbell now densely shifting get the extra keep and locked the door but I would argue, any situation is rather than make working with your wife going. Are you serious in your face so I I hear what you're saying gentle tactics or whatever like it's a it's a low floor for me right now, and so they they the series for out of the line you they're keeping serious three one. Ninety nine would wage rates This is already, and there is another twitter fight about whether we have watched the hit product. The abortion had product is the dominant. So
watch in the world. It is cruising towards being the dominant watching world at one. Ninety nine, like every kid who has an iphone, gets one of these for christmas right and that's where they're at I do think the always understand the serious five. That's one of us, things where I I find myself wondering about the expense of the the extra finishes right. Like I didn't. I bought just the stainless. No, I bought the whole. I think I'm wearing the in yeah cause. I was like I'm going to buy it, I don't like. I buy the shoes for the screens bigger. I like the apps, like whatever it's like, finally making sense. to me. I've enjoyed wearing it this year, but I want a series: five. If I had the ext because of the always on display, that's it and it's the reason I want it. If I had spent extra money on a finnish, I would feel extremely upset has right right if I'd spent eight hundred dollars on this thing. I'd like this is ridiculous, like I just want this one feature in our like after re up
and the serious for has an l, p p o display. Yes, they they both have to hear this, but It have. The controller to you know ratchet the hurts up and down so right today apple has a patent on these L. Teepee otis ways reads like lower power over displays. You can like fall down a deep hole of like oh info dot com and, like the weird supply chain, manufacture reports and like well, lt peo at me by the way. My hat is off to the people who write breathless supply chain reports Extremely niche display technologies cause you read em and it's like this could change everything. I knew like four people. Know what you're talking about. I love you did your father horn agree those patents, it's quite fun, but the controller that does is variable refresh raid, and so when you, when you put it down at basic jobs in what you would call low power moon the second hand, analogue faces like disappears in the screen. Only updates wants a second one, hurts
and then its variable. So, like sir, times it's only running it. Like thirty hurts ray. It's like a ramp can wrap all the way in all the way down, so you're doing a lot of power management just with the display. If it's running one update a second, why can't it refresh and show the second hand moves every second, it would be screened because the second you look at it it'll show you the second and it'll it'll brighten up and show the second one yeah. There are things like you you're, not looking now, but they showed off, like you're, doing cool exercises and you're totally looking at it right. when you, when you do in cool exercises and you're like looking at it literally. The the like the stopwatch, goes from measuring hundredths of a second to one second increments, and then, when you just like look at it it'll add you it'll, show you that the more granular time. When you say look at you mean do the gesture. The latter early gesture use, like turn like right now, right now. It doesn't show me anything the way right. Ok, yes,
now the blank screen and tell you you look at it. You kind of gotta move a little bit and apples demo this very strong selling point because I of always hated the offscreen adjust its bothers me. Seeing other people where this phone with screener that this watch the screens, but the way apple sells it. It's like he caught all these times. How inconvenient has been to turn your wrist and then look at europe too, to brighten up screen or to turn on the screen. So what I'm saying is like you still have to do that to get the screen. Beat to be moving. Is what you're saying right to get it to get that refresh rate up above one hurts gotta, move your wrist jurist, so they're doing bunch of stuff brides? You have like a sweeping second hand, its animated faster than one hurts rights.
the sweeping secondhand, disappears or, if you're actually actively interacting with it and scrolling at the screen. Refreshes factors rather like a normal screen rate. That's the thing that you're stuck on Paul, I think, is like there are certain things that the activities you do, the apple watch, where it won't let the screen to him. So, like your actively exercising you can like set, it said like not go into the screen de mode just so. You can take a look at it whenever you out without having to do gesture the best possible. I mean, I think all this framing is hilarious, because even the like their present, We always on screen made. It seem like a revolution when every ouch in history, tamil apple put this watch out, showed you I'm at all. So like it's. It's a classic sort of like they ve recent expectations, And- But that's me is reason enough to upgrade to it's. The first time I thought really happy to buy the nicer financially ivory. was gonna, buy the black sea and still I didn't cause. I am confident that I would like with like it in so whatever, but I'm happy in,
now my again by the next one. I know I like it. It's worth the money, but in the sea Six is gonna come out and I Just get me mad and ass. I thought soap. That's like interesting to me, interview them, but our advice on the iphones is like most people should get the iphone eleven, not the iphone pro rep and I think, with the watches. Most people should get the aluminum or some some people seem to get the series three and it's very clear that, like apple, some stuff and then they make some stuff for people that just want to spend more money to have a nicer thing. Daring and like the watch is a very clear example that is, I would you like to throw a thriller dollars to feel? Like you have a nice or thing here, you go, get the amount of like apples in time. product line is like a phd thesis and price elasticity. Yeah right like how much do you care about how much things cost x for some apple customers. The answers I do not at all. whatever it is just give me the best one apple I shall have it.
and I think now, as they've expanded the market and they've like sold. So many phones they're in competition around the world, they've needed to lower those prices and get more competitive, but they definitely have that part of the product line where it's like. I just want the best. One apple makes speaking of phd theses nila. I want to commend you for not getting into the debate of what constitutes pro and sending me off. Spinning. Thank you for that. Here's, where I believe, constitutes pro and brands, are weird in a don't care about language vessel in particular like stop trying to make sense of apples product names. What is air What does problem here? Where way they were segmented. I've stop trying. What is the headline right now is at once them. sensible, understandable version of this line that has ever existed and also the wacky est they just made at work here like it. I kind of gig again,
you see like you're, far away from its in the distance I see the shape of this and you get up close. You like if things here don't line up with the image that it formed in my head. So they said this was a big sub. I've known as expecting this at all the day before air grey, Austria gets on stage he's like there's a new ipad placing the nine point, seven inch three hundred twenty nine dollars ipad. Now it's got a ten point. Two inch display If I'm a ten fusion ship in it, veritable antique, but here it is ass, got smart keyboard, connector That's the ipad. Everybody likes you like they just read: rice same price, neutron, which in many ways I kind of like the best deal and tech right now right of residence That's it that's a lotta computer for three hours they actually put slide. When what have we done the same identified. What computer that is they put aside? being a windows. Pc like this is a top selling windows pc this year.
Jobs. Jobs even was like the. I now cause it's like ugly, but they showed it, and I, like the ipad, assume for, like the ipad, can do so much. It has all these apps blah blah blah blah blah and then ipad ios with a real browser and so on and so forth it this thing is made to a go after the education market has keyboard if you can use the smart keyboard and it's kind of there to like challenge chromebooks and cheap windows, laptops yeah, I dunno. If it's going to be successful, that the three twenty nine one wasn't, maybe the keyboard connector might help, but also apple's smart keyboard cost. a hundred sixty efforts is now I can cheaper lodge attack. One though yeah, yeah, but whatever the there's others that hold the ipad back and education, but we shouldn't get into it. This is the best deal attack like if you, if you wanna, if you dont, want to give you all, have an apple watch. You can give them this ipad, so rude, What do that? Do that? Oh you're you're, like I'm, related to you and enough to emulate its few enough
I'm related to you and have to demonstrate like a couple hundred bucks worth of care is a gift yeah, there's a lot of those relationships that that's airport ads or the one. Ninety nine watch ok, even the one I need I watch is like you have to know, the data now that there is a better watch airports Home run, there's no better airports right in interview. They already have airpods and you gave them some more airpods. It's still like yep. You got more of the good thing. The watch you've got to be careful yeah right like I bought you the alive. It's the one thing two years ago, the screen doesn't turn out time. Like I love you that much right We believe that you're right, you throw silvana three hundred opera occupied it's like, I don't really like you. I've com is a basement. That's that's a rough gift! If you don't, if it's not exactly right, yeah, ok, fair, ok, so there's the ipad. Many
There's the ipad ipad ipad ipad, then its tears, that's attend to lightning, can editor headphone jack, right, apple, pencil supporters, yes, fraudulent, ass or cancel the silly, the silly pencil then there's a wreath relatively recent ipad error, which is basically a bunch. parts from like to you. We are go you're half ago ipad, pro with some other stuff and they put it heather and like the middle zone, ipad, lightning, connector, keyboard character, first trend, pencil, first, a pencil and then there's the like ipad pro, yet others for many ipad, Air pro well, so there's there's a clear line. You want to talk about what pro means now this is the second once I get, the error still exists: They are suits us. I was not aware that brought it back so that the difference with the heirs it's got the better screen, right, so they I've had many has an age while bionic in a true to display the ipad air has equal, bionic, a true to display lightning.
Actor headphone check, then in the middle is the ipad temple. to don laminated three, twenty nine, a ten fusion ship, Right like it just like a worse product than the many or the air right, but if it's the cheap, big one and I think the presence of the cheap, a big one is weed out account for enough when we like, we talk about technology but like that the ten are an iphone eleven, also fit into the realm of like the cheaper big one. Half of all windows laptops are the cheapest. but she would you like to look at a mediocre fifteen years. This way that will be four hundred dollars like that product is very popular like how many horrible sixty five in tvs are sold It's the cheap big one, and it's just like a real product that exists and apple made a cheap, big ipad. Then there, but then there's the hard cut, yeah right and then there's the ipad pros, which I seven, ninety nine
bulgaria and discarded. They ve got u s. Bc. No headphone jack, like faster gps, racially stole a twelve right, yet smaller vessels, twelve excellent, an area like the next generate they ve got very well refreshment, despite the whole thing in that's, therefore pro, but they all run the same software and say maps like they haven't yet. I dont think the ipad prose have yet like developed the software ecosystem of prose stuff right here. It all works on everything. So that's like the. I think the next big split that is coming they're starting to develop that stuff, but you can still run that pro stuff on the smaller ones, so that nobody, who you buys the cheaper ones, tries to do it. So just so, you can run photoshop in a crappy old mac, or whatever I mean I, these ipads are very powerful, like like like a tiny chip like
it's a lot of. The pro apps I like on the ipad are music, apps and there'll, be something where it's like. You know this one can do like forty simultaneous sample playbacks, but then this with a twelve you can do eighty or you know stuff, like that, there's stuff where you can do the same capabilities, but maybe you can do more of it at once are faster on the eight twelve I pdf it just wish it all these the incomplete. bill peripherals. I understand if you got a parts been ipad right, but we are coming up new ipads with old stuff like this. No, I I guess understand that it's cheaper for them to do it, but like this that the pencilling ability. He asked neither angels, I wasn't it is very clearly a lightning ecosystem of ipads, a usb ecosystem ipads. So what you're, seeing as the iphone pro should have used? see I m saying that, just because I want to see of dieter concise, so much passes, yes, bright light.
If you just want to like put it out there like. That is the made it with the ipad, but I dont think these words mean anything. The apple in the end. Everyone thinks of them as ipods and iphones, and they have a bunch of like signifier around those core names, the deuce well, the thing just like, I don't think anybody thinks of the macbook air and the macbook pros being fundamentally distinct products right well suggest he does this bizarre world called personal computers, and I bought a keyboard for my personal computer and then I got another computer guess what keyboard works with the new one can you believe it? Well, if you had one of the three life sensors in world, it right work with your new ipad anyway, it was a kind of a surprise and ass. We get why there's a lot of rumours are something other than october, with the new six inch macbook pro, maybe some rather I've had prose you understand what I wouldn't want I'd like toss out this pad, although it could have just done. It is a press release. They could have, nothing in the world would stop them from doing this is oppressing. They need to give it
at least a little bit of juice and a little bit of love to like, because they really do need to catch up to chromebooks in education yeah. I think there had if they had had like the tag for the iphone, this ipad would have been cut. Added to a press release, ooh yeah, you know what I mean. I think they'd ship, some of the other stuff. That was the rumor that's in the pipeline yeah. Absolutely this would have been, would have been a press release time. I think, of apple put a the the nine point. Seven inch screen on the back in this- the slower processor back in this, and they bundled it with the pencil and the keyboard and sold it, for three and thirty dollars it be the best selling computer in the world. Well, here's where I think you should do you should by a bunch of these put that bundled together, sardine amazon store, get to work There's your startup light he built, but the bundle is, is five hundred dollars hundred and sixty plus I'm not going to do the math
but you know a lot about. I refuse to citizens under dollars, its speaking of math, just two things that I grab a announced. A price for apple, b plus for ninety nine a month we have to see that we have the blind. Our common trailer for animal thing isn't the most important part it for at a month. But if you buy Any apple hardware at all you get a year for free yeah, which means like a bunch of people are just going to get apple tv for free which has got a really juice their numbers, and so it out one word: there's like destroy stories and eight months of apple tv, verses, disney, plus versus quibble versus hulu verses, netflix, verses, sputum, hacks https plus yeah apples like basically is like there on the on the cost of their hardware margins is gonna, be like up in the upper echelons of that conversation just by default, because a ton of people are just going to have it for free yeah,
like they were. What ten shows like it yeah. It's weird that, like a thing you get with an eye for an eye, was like agenda france and show. Why can we not like the reality of this? This works with with music, it doesnt work with music. You mean, like you, get three months of apple music, as is written sure, but, like apple, doesn't make the music right. That's what I'm saying? That's why it works better too, to give this for free with music, because if someone becomes accustomed, apple, music, like they're, not going to stop, like you, know, there's not just one season of your favorite banned in its only on apple music. You know, but this this is lying the other have. These shows that are somehow compelling enough that, after a year, you'll want to start paying five dollars a month to keep watch it. I want to. Actually. I would actually press you on that. There is not a one season of your band and then their done, because I have listened to our kate fire or care about what, meant to say: is that
when you say a music subscription service, you mean music, you don't mean spotify, proprietary lineup of bans. You can hear nowhere else while spotify now is fried her light of the fire ass. You can hear nowhere else, listen to this house angry. You don't actually like that's a bead she's she's on the case like it's that thing where you own, the constant make it look I think it's going to get them into conversation. I think the trailer resolve sea, which is jason, went in a world of everyone's blind hundreds of years in future look so now and sensible in dumb. They, like I believe that they made it right but exciting that, like you, get some like free high production value showed a watch list. Shore is echoing you buy another. I found a year from now. If you decide the ecosystem, What's it to you anymore, I think
we're doing is we're just making the the ecosystem more and more like valuable. So you have to give up more and more things to switch. That's a great way to spend money is apple tv plus going to become a profit center for this company over time. I have no yeah because after there you have to see if the morning show is successful. They. Jennifer anniston come back for season two that sought an asset with like lots of value unless they make a bunch of seasons and turn into friends. That's a lot of money and then what you're, just not going to ever do that part to me is confusing in a way that The games, for example, are way less confusing to me. So the game show results were announced, apple arcade. For ninety nine year, bunch again, have no scare free to play adds no internet purchases. Their dislike beautiful, old jewels of games and more of them all here, overtime and that to me, is like incredible thats. It's the best thing that they ve ever done with the app store
it's like there's a place here where there's cool games that we vetted we ve selected, are high quality, theirs scams are bullshit in them just like enjoy like absolutely worth five dollars a month to me and they've they've got a bunch of like really into the thing like india games that allow people actually waiting for I'm way more exciting. Ok, that apple tv plus- I just am because I'm looking for me, I've only aim- and now I like, I don't have to like luck to do that. If he's going to create a lot of winners and losers- and I still don't know how developers get paid in this system- that's going to be very fascinating thing. Will the second year of apple arcade have as good a games? How much is apple subsidizing these games? How much what cut of that five bucks a month, the developers get? Is it gonna be enough? Is it actually the fun stuff like the whole economics of games on the iphone, are very, very different and also very, very broken right? They're broken it's bad. The incentives are bad.
So these incentives theoretically are good, but they might not be there definitely better than what we have right now why they answer at least staffing, Emily to better consumer experiences for sure right. There's a meal. just anything, that's less free to play games and it's not man. I hope this game is worth fifteen to thirty dollars, which is rather that's? U buckets. You have now Anything that I like fills in that middle zone of like this is a high quality, complete object right and I'm just gonna play it and that'll be fun. I'm excited about. I think it's, the smartest thing they've done yeah. It is ironic, though, cause back when the app store first launched. It was a revolution because people were tired of having to beg mobile carriers to include their aims on the phone, because that was the only way to make money. Now they can make money without having to beg carriers to let them in the door hut that that what really
I don't know why doesn't rob me the wrong way with its television stuff, but with video games. I don't like the idea of an indian studio like that. There I mean happy for all of the industry, studios that won the lottery and and hopefully apples paying them Allah. If apples not paying them lot. I hate this a lot, but but the idea that you he now you're designing your company around hoping that apple thinks that you match their vision for four games. You know there's that layer of indirection your customer becomes apple, not gay people who play video games if that makes sense yeah. But if you want those people, you can just make an app store game. Sure absolutely eager make I'd like you to get a licence from intended to make a switch game. Yet it doesn't. hurt me in any way doesn't excited. I wrapped up The company model is like all surreal like if you wanna make tv shows your customers netflix and a b c, and what I mean like that's been around for awhile. I audit there's
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I got it. I I you know it's funny how, after several seasons it's. Finally, this shared universe has been revealed all of the threads coming together. So Google's doing this thing with a r court, so you know, like apple, makes a r kit. Google makes a r for these are like technologies to scan your environment. Fine, like will points of visual interest and do like tracking with that right. So you can do a our experiences like book. Mungo, Google is adding. I got a save button to are core so that you save. Let's say you put your ikea lamp in the middle of a park right and you're tracking it, and then you click save that it it is. It can be a persistent cloud incur. The other people feel like maybe your friends or whatever and like you minecraft, is doing something like this with them. Using
Microsoft has similar technology for like these cloud type anchors, so that there's going to be shared, minecraft experiences where I built a thing and my friends can see it and not just they can see it, but they can see it in the same place where I I built it, and they are all that to say what the teams put put little messages up and say: here's the place where we do crimes and then they share it with each other. Somehow I dunno it's not fully fleshed out, but cited about cloud anchors, because I I it's yeah, so I sought microsoft emma a clodagh anchors after me, a while back I will say they are mostly interested unlike architects, land surveyors not so much in the teams to being petty crimes, but I like it, sort of like the Google refunded is like what, if we open this up to younger, those of all lost or of good.
was opening this up. The developers there's like there's this mark, a our app where you you do. You do pretend graffiti, but seeing obviously the thing is is that you can make This just like in the world, is one big mouth right of our staff, because every age be dicks like everybody be drawing dicks. All the time and you d be inundated so that there have to be so like that minecraft earth you can create make these things. This is the microsoft version of this technology. You can make things and share with your friends. and and about I dont think I am hoping some day there is some sort of we figure out solve the deck problem. We somehow can have a shared world, because I do want some way of of just discovering weird stuff in the world that someone is built. You know like, maybe they they made a sculpture out of ikea for
sure you know any are and they ve saved it into like a park I visit and about the park, and so I see hey, there's something in this park. You want to look at it and I say yes and then I can see it through my phone. I think that's pretty cool. Obviously, when we get in our glasses, that's going to be even I I I that seems like what the world will be like someday. If we could solve the the dick problem, step, one fix you tube comments. Anybody can put eighty virtual object anywhere and we all see there I want to say the m: can you imagine the it's like the ecosystem? Walkin problem of like the world is entirely different. If you have fun. Oh yeah versus the trade for open. Like you see, compatible reality is build, that's exactly what's gonna happen, it that's a hundred times will happen I did or walk suvs, pixel forelegs its end like the iphones here you know we're going to your views like taxis, started but
Obviously in, even though, as we talk about the cameras mushrooms out where, with the camera, up against not only like a pixel three in the note, ten or whatever, but sort of like the promise of the pixel for right. The aspect that led the way for android from next There are just so men. He is better Viewed on camera, we have seen the orange color we've seen a walk through of how the face unlock works and there's claims that it's going to have eight x, zoom and improved night sight. Just there there's even like camera samples and like these are like a rough and ready that, for like
can't like from really make judgements off the stuff, but like it's every day every day, all there is one to three new pixel for leaks, and I dont know I again want to walk through is like that. It's the whole phone is out there tat like AL. You now is google bad at securing things or as google thirsty for coverage. I think it is ninety percent Google's bad insecurity. Things and ten percent. There are thirsty in their like they're, not super sad that all these things are happening right or on the time the iphone got announced here. there's a lot of interest in the pixel, for I do think also. Google is just notoriously leaky gap rather like these lisa. Maybe it was the same. Last year I mean that the things like literally like got stolen from a truck fell off a truck last year. Actually, oh, look at what other youtube videos got taken down. Look at that! It's funny cause! You know, google.
Ones, ones that apply for that. It's like just a call. They can make it anytime, there's, apparently a new voice recording app, which is exciting. I, like the art the way the orange one looks that the way that they're handling the the finished with the glass and the bezels and all that stuff for cross a different color he was really interesting, but the only thing that really matters is: what are they gonna do in software that we haven't seen yet we ve already seen the face idea. We have also seen the seeming the seeming actually looks kind of interesting because it looks like it's not as like. Do whatever you want and get kids who just discovered, tron and manga building themes. You actually get like some like nice, subtle themes that feel like they fit with the phone, but like what else is there like? What is the quality of the photos? What are they actually doing in the photos? Battery life how's, the battery life yeah, the battery life, especially in the small one, will matter yet? What else is there?
what don't like what other mysteries are. There had left for the pixel for the discharge of india. Does this so a gesture stuff? Actually work? Well, yeah, that's true! We, we think we know the phone as we have no idea, whether it's any good, it's funny. They should just release an let us review it I don't say that they shouldn't have an announcement event. They should just like handed out to reviewers and be done. Well, they if they get every carrier, which is, I think, what we're expecting this time around. They need to like build some hype, but it's interesting. You know it's the eye funds go ahead, but we were gonna get em. I personally am wondering if there are in this world, I was to enter its which areas where people are happy. That ecosystem publicly has my message: lookin, but they're gonna go up against like apples, putting out a phone. into a world where the pixel for all but exists, yeah right, you're, already measuring it against this phone. That you know is coming as we have set the tone for cameras for so long. I do that. that super interesting, but we have actually get it and see it. I also put this out there. I understand is technically surpassed.
Has never been a phone. Camera is good, is the so to, and what I mean by that is a pencil too, was like a step change for care. As it was so much better than everything in it's class that everything that come before it and we just spent iterating on that pattern. I thought the pixel three is a little disappointing in that regard. Like it went kind of sideways, it didn't go forward. I hope the pixel four can like push it again. I might walk in and they're adding lenses and stuff to the back, we'll see, and but that's what I'm looking for from pixel four okay. I think that is all of the phone news from this. That's enough of that, and every year we accomplished all these motorola. Like has a phone cut down. My guy, like nobody, still exists all right. Some of the phones are going to start folding soon we gotta get these data like milk, it from the candy bars as long as we an american allergies. Next year, fifteen cameras, thirty four jeez photograph there you go, find only runs on only runs and apples in vienna on that
That's a register this week. I know along one they using with us. It is taxes in its here applauded stuff There's you may be a surface event. They promised not only stonily but experiences. You will have experiences with surface devices that that, out in the world. Presumably, Google do some. Four pixel, though, just do Oh fly buys in new york city, dropping them out of a plan, sobering understand them. Amazon just sit down. So doing a thing on the twenty fifth amazon has an event we're in it. It's here the most exciting part of the year, if you're in the gadgets harbour seasons Get ready for a lot of very long for are common. Asher will see you next week, Paul.
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