On December 26, 2016, 58-year-old Lori Feltz disappeared from Cynthiana, KY. When Lori was young, she was in a terrible car accident. This accident killed her younger brother, who was a passenger in the vehicle, and Lori suffered a traumatic brain injury. This accident would change the course of her life forever. Lori, as a result of this injury, had intellectual disabilities, short term memory loss, seizures and required a caregiver to help her with daily tasks and make sure she took her medication.
Around 9 AM on December 26, 2016, Lori was last seen leaving her house on Hick Hardy Road to walk up a path to go help her sister at the home next door. The path was only about 300 yards and this was a route she would walk on a regular basis for exercise. However, she never made it to see her sister. Her sister, Tricia, was expecting Lori and became concerned when she didn’t arrive but she couldn’t find Lori anywhere. Lori’s family members believe that it is possible that she became disoriented on her walk and flagged down a passing motorist to ask for a ride, but so far there have been no signs or clues to indicate what truly happened to Lori that day.
If you have any information regarding the disappearance of Lori Feltz please call the Kentucky State Police at 859-428-1212.
UPDATE- On September 17, 2020, the two unregistered sex offenders mentioned in Lori’s episode, Brendan Camous and Clinton Peterson, were finally apprehended. Acting on new information from Camous and Peterson, Kentucky State Police searched a wooded area on property not far from Lori’s home on September 28, 2020, and recovered human remains along with clothing. On October 6, 2020, the remains were identified as Lori Feltz.
You can follow Lori's case on Facebook at Finding Justice for Lori.
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There was no sign of worry and
at the time tuning it. If she had been on the road, there would have been a sign, I mean they would have found her or somebody kicked her up
So please police were they came out, they treated it. Of course,
She had somehow gotten confused and wandered off because we couldn't fathom
that anything bad would have happened, tour
go kim chickens in cow, but not very many people in the morning after christmas. So there's no even much traffic.
So they got together, search, keen and canvassed the area talk to neighbours.
the figure in this woman got her name on that night. I did a dinner view with them after dark that first night thing
chop, loring whistle loud and like to, but always with told not to, but if she would ever lost she could whistle and we would know where she was, and so I walked around for a long while giving my about whistle not hearing.
Any response- and this is one of my fears, but it's been realised, she didn't know a stranger, she didn't understand danger and if somebody would offer her a ride, she'd probably take it and in fact we believed that pretty much. What happened that morning beyond that? It's also possible that she asked for a ride. Laurie attended an adult day care facility in a nearby town Monday through friday. She loved that place and in fact she referred to it as her work and we also called it. Her work is very important to her to go and in fact she would have gone to that facility seven days a week if it was available until that particular day. She very much wanted to go to work. It was monday, after all the day, the christmas, but a while ago, awkward, Portugal. The center in fact, was closed. One disappointed that she couldn't go to work that day and in fact, what her caregiver said to her is: why don't you instead walk up to the cabin and help trish richards me, and you can help her up it up there and she said: ok, that's when she left the farmhouse to walk up to where I was at the cabin she had done this many many times, so this was not an unusual event whatsoever on December twenty six, two thousand and sixteen fifty eight year old, laurie celts, disappeared from Cynthiana kentucky and laurie was young. She was in a terrible car accident. The accident killed her younger brother, who was a passenger in the vehicle in laurie, suffered a traumatic brain injury that would change the course of her life forever lurie. As a result of this injury had intellectual disabilities, short term memory, loss seizures and required a caregiver to help her with her daily tasks and make sure she took her medication. Around nine am on December twenty six, two thousand and sixteen laurie was last seen, leaving her house on hickory road to walk up a path to go, help her sister at the home next door. The path was only about three hundred yards, and this was a route that she would take on a regular basis for exercise. However, she never made it to see her sister. Her sister tricia was expecting lori and became concerned when she didn't arrive, but she couldn't find Lurie anywhere. Lori's family members believe that it's possible that she became disoriented on her walk and flagged down a passing motorist to ask for a ride, but so far there have been no signs or clues to indicate what truly happened to laurie that day, I'm marissa and from wandering. This is episode. One hundred and seventy one of the vanished lori filters story.
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For this episode we had the opportunity to speak with lorries, three sisters, tricia melissa and kathleen
provided the story from their own perspective and gave unique insights as to who lorry was throughout the duration of her life. Up until the day she went missing,
but before we get into the details of what happened the day lorry disappeared
I would like to go back in time and learn more about lorry ass. She grew up and what she was like before her life altering accident.
Here's lorry sister kathleen speaking about their childhood. Well,
talk about why she was my orders.
By one year there were set.
kids in our family born
seven years so
We are very close, and I
just always looked up to my sister in
we would always be. We play house together. She was always mom. I, with ice baby.
growing up then in battle scorn
school. You know
her clothes, sometimes or she'd, where mine
because we were only a year apart and we just.
we're very close she,
very independent from when
you were little kids
she got mad at something that mom and dad mom had said and said. Come on
brennan away and she
grab my hand and we walked,
on the sidewalk, and I was confused in thing, but it's almost lunchtime
and she
Matt. So we
and walk, and we got to the end of the block
and she was going to cross the street myself.
Were not allowed to cross street. So we turned
and we ended up
doing that a number of times and we ended up back home at
Time
we went in because I was hungry and I talked worry into it.
She was always
one for adventure.
Asserting herself and
I was her eye, grounded her and it.
what kind of remain that way for a long time when we
spoke to Melissa one of lorries, other sisters,
She had a similar point of view of lorry but describes for more as the wild child of the family where she was
I just really adventurous and always issue is very
in her friends, and
as an adolescent hung out with a lot of guys in
she was really a beautiful young woman.
admired her and I was always just sort of in awe because she was its recent
was going out. The sea was one of the ones that, like first with out of the sea,
We like she wasn't she
hang out at home. She was very
Social and very much into being going out
her friends and listening to music. Can he now says I guess the sub
Of course.
as an adolescent, I was
like admiring of her, but we didn't spend that much
time together, necessarily because she was
years older and definitely
to make up.
Ways- and
thing, and I was kind of them. I was more than nerd. He now I wore glasses and had braces and wanted to
be in school and liked to read in the charter,
famine and lorry was just like exotic and cool, and we didn't.
necessarily hang out, and she also
pretty quickly ran cross lies with my parents
and was school, you know she was a. I get
it's like a rebel, you know, but basically she was just
however, while I was there and so she,
at some point left
I think my mom sent her- that live where.
Our grandmother out in california palm springs area
She came home and it was a big big
when she came home, does it
were celebrating that she was back. I would
junior high school and we had done
some prank, and
with the last day of school with last week of school, or something like that
maybe in the eighth grade. I was not there
much of a troublemaker. I was certainly a rebel and had opinions, but I didn't I
and trouble at its core anyway,
involved in a prank got caught and they
Suspended me, the school suspended me for the last
the last few days of school or something and it was pretty
everything to me because that's where you were
Lastly, if good, when you hung out with all your friends
Anyway, lorry come home from palm springs,
and she was this super supply.
Of me, I was crying and sad and she
like she displayed the older sister wall, like you, know, they're so wrong and we're not gonna. Let
and get away with the
I remember being so grateful that she was supportive appearance with that. Many
head and our parents were splitting or absent quiet,
My dad was worked
My mom work, and they were also really.
in the process of separating the relationship was not not good, so be it.
Shot of. That was that we were real left too,
our own means a lorry support in that little junior high school moment. Time was all the support I was gonna. Get
it's not like my mama's gonna sit me down and
be what happens then,
me through it or whatever.
As Melissa previously stated, the family was going through a rough patch during this time, their pay.
For in the process of separating lorry had moved to California, and things were slightly strained, however,
laurie would return home to go on a family vacation. She came,
with us on a family trip, but what kind of an important faintly trip, because I think apparently already announced their pending divorce and my dad.
to take the kids on a big trip to the southwest, which we did, but not all the kids went. I think that Joe
The older brother was already in just enough trouble, but he might have been out of the house.
He wanted to you with her voice,
and time whose downstairs
it now. Her husband of forty years
but what
it was a differ.
time, and I didn't know this until much later that she is so she was sick. A lot on that
rip and then dad wound up having
fi her home from some portion? We learned that hang out heading up colorado. Arizona thank you know is itself west trip
I find out later that she was pregnant.
With land use
your bad boy in our neighbourhood senses baby and
miss carrying you know.
That is an indication of number one how
naive. I was the idea that we were sisters together and she wasn't sharing. That is a part of how she kept her thought, but also how we were not that type lakes
somehow couldn't tell me
to me what was going on. I was didn't undressed
the gravity of it or the pain that she was. Then I remember just thinking it was
She was on her period and should also mean and noise. So you know she was withdrawing, but it was a tough time for for her
He moved an optimal lucky.
my dad and
on another effort, it kind of pulling yourself together and-
really just starting her life. She had gotten a small job. I think my dad's law
and was
and be starting nursing school. But you know I just wanna bet:
in way from the hall
seen and a chance said, starting
life in a walkie when she
my brother were in an accident driving back from now
a key to date, but I just
did idolize her, and I wonder, Ethan
driving back, and I struggled like my whole life with this weird guilt was I had tickets,
a concert, the eagle
I'm not sure it with some like really big group in Cincinnati than we were gonna drive to. I had bought a ticket for my sister laurie
And I girl
a certain amount of cred to for me, like that, my beautiful older sister was going to go with me and my friend to a concert was like a big deal, but it's definitely a big deal. The weird
where is that she would
to get back to ohio at that particular time on that particular day, because we have this conflict
the accident that melissa mentioned would be an event that would change the course of lorries, life and her family forever
Kathleen was able to provide us with more details as to what occurred on the day of the accident at
the king. I were.
planning on getting married and
I was going to die.
Home for
my bridle shower and
within march, and I wish to be married in may and
my little brother was up here visiting
my dad
and so he got a ride home with lorry. Instead of taking her,
flight that had already been purchased fine. He was
fourteen
they were driving home. They got to
as far as indianapolis. There was some icing
and the roads that was happening
the echo going the other direction,
over the medium lost control and show them head on. It was just a catalyst.
The accident and
My brother was basically
On rival of the paramedics.
And lorry had been sort of choked by her seat belt,
because the car had flit a few times in.
her body was dead, so she had
she was left with tonight.
Brain injury,
She was in a coma for a couple of months.
and so we not able to be in my wedding. But
We had to learn
thing. All over again did
little by little. Her personality was different.
Her short term memory was greatly affected, so she
Sort of was more like a kid, but she ended up
being a very
happy and loving person and
didn't, know a stranger.
An survived in Milwaukee walk, yet, not so great tat
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After
accident lorry spent time in halfway houses and would eventually returned to live with her father for a period of time, given the
act, that lorry had a traumatic brain injury. Her mood, temperament and personality had changed
in addition to grieving the loss of their brother and sun, the family also struggled to acclimate to lorries new challenges,
here's melissa discussing the difficulties that went along with caring for lorry after the accident
and how lorry eventually left their fathers home to receive care that her family was not equipped to give her at the time that I was
living in Milwaukee. For that first few months, where I lived with my dad and my sister, you know
and tat. I wasn't very patient with her, and it was
also a tough time for my dad, where when he did finally decide that
He couldn't really care for her
at home and then I,
after college I went moved a marathon and I'm the tree.
here's my interaction with her words.
Really pretty limited for the next fifteen years
Maybe twenty years I was in and out of Milwaukee, so I interact
with her when I was living in Milwaukee, but I basically at some point moved
The southwest me not at some. I do actually remember when I was in the mid eighty. I moved down to you
Donor and I'm between
though not taxes and new mexico. I
Essentially, never came
to the midwest. Until just a couple of years ago are adult lives were spent separately
of those we always always had sundays set up.
for some cause: lorry one
two you a light to be in touch with us.
as we could and see. It was one of the things that sheep
did on sundays- was make fun of essentially to every
member of the family one after another? She wasn't very good at
Our and you know that calls will be essentially
scripted like. So how are you and what
the like in
no, not really an exchange, but just hearing
a voice and telling stories
you did most of the talking and she would lie
for ass sort of her scripted question,
like, did you enjoy at and that sort of thing.
Around this time, while lorry was inner made too late twenties, she met a man named bob felts bob in lorries struck up a relationship
her family wasn't certain. If this was the right decision for lorry,
They weren't sure if they should have stopped her from this type of relationship. Given her brain injury,
spite their hesitancy towards the situation. Lorry went on to marry bob and they share to life together for many years Bob. Definitely
One and a wife- and they must have had
physical relationship, no sexual relationship, but this sort of
thing. Where were we protecting her enough or or should we have in
genes.
seemed happy and none of us.
Talked about it again was also like
seventies and eighties and, like you didn't he now talk about things
in it with her shot at having
kind of a.
Quote: unquote: normal life
independent, because he could be her caregiver. There was no more
care and living in institution them and all of the above, so it
a good shot, and my dad stay. Close and bob lorry were stayed in
with my dad. My dad was always the medical decisionmaker until
turn that over to me a few years ago. But at that point I
I was in an out of being in contact with them, but during a stay in Milwaukee I was involved with
local newspaper, a free, weekly alternative newspaper.
Bob was doing for a trade was started, his own business and share with support and with great a small print shop
that can't be, and now graphic bargaining
with the first in this
and lies in their shop and then graphics, and it was
before there was the ability to print as easily.
As you know, when a print chop could still make a business
I got the new
paper witches
You know needed to be published on a weekly basis and is now a huge called the shepherd express in milwaukee at the time. It was just that
college based kind of radical
This paper called the crazy shepherd boy
the lorry and their little
and shop printed, the the weekly newspaper. They got that contract, because I was a part of the group that
did that newspaper was able to
hand them that contract in it. It was a pretty cool
because it helps them. Keep the business going
the other thing that I know they enjoy doing was they did like square
and saying you know they had certain.
that they dead every week that square dancing with one of them bob got cancer
most with cancer, and I think during
course of a year
was over, and it was at that point that my dad,
arranged with the to
in the care of the state and with a similar content.
She became a ward of the state and was placed in foster care in sheboygan with a
family up there, it now
seems like the best,
situation. It was just the only
situation that we had.
The foster family, that lorries stayed with after her husband, Bob passed away was a nice family.
Different from the type in which lorry had grown up way
after a while lorry began to gain weight while staying with his family and was not as active as she had been for the entirety of her life,
making affected lorries, mobility and she had a tendency to fall down.
Ass she grew older. She would experience issues with her legs and ankles
over time. Lorry began to miss a feeling of being around her family. Here's
a clean discussing lorries, eventual move to her sister tricia's home
eventually what we kept
in some boy is a nation
Spare me was that
caring for her. They were
family. When we,
had always been famine.
We know very close
so she missed being living
his family and my sister, who was retired resource for,
decided that she would
care of mom
mom within a nursing home had been ohio near me, had
alzheimer's and
I did care that was getting more and more expensive each man,
it seemed an so treasure.
Actually who lived in this beautiful long come on a hill, but
fine house down the hill next to her
use as they care house
my husband and I went down there in red. Did you know
got some words in need it.
It was a good set up for
caregivers.
and for trade
and her husband to still have the upstairs and since
share with already having caregivers help her with mom. She thought
would be wonderful if she could reunite mom and worry
when mom and worry we'd get on the phone with each other laurie
we always say you know, like I just
Just when it comes to you and mom would say I
either come see me or outcomes you and they would burn
get worked up, but mom couldn't take care of it.
Often either could lorry. So we ended up
Getting borri down
Two men
and found day, adult takers
where
could, go and cheap that she was there to help
and so she called her work.
here's lorry sister tricia describing her home in cynthia Anna Kentucky,
so we live on a world farm in Nicholas county Kentucky and it's a fifty
farm cries. It is she
was walking the farm which
is not unusual at all for her to do in fact, there's tune.
Homes on the farm,
and they are about.
Football field distance.
from each other
and she very often walked
in the two homes back and forth. We
and walked did together. We say if they are connected by a gradual driveway,
tricia, went on to explain the events of the day, leading up to the moment that lorry went missing
on the morning of monday,
December twenty six to seven.
Sixteen
she was supposed to be one
from what we call
the farm house too,
the cabin she
because of her needs. We did
a caregiver who is
interested in
you getting her ready for the day. I was
the cabin boy was at the farm house with a caregiver and
I set out to walk from the farm house
to the cabin that was our understanding. The boy never arrived at the cabin so within
fifteen minutes
I was watching for her to arrive,
the cabin and quit.
see her in.
For you to understand the lay out
kind of a straight shot. You can look from the cabin
All the way down the gravel lane,
basically almost to the farmhouse and see the whole land
and I do
yeah-
I immediately texted her caregiver,
in doing that
Maybe she had turned back, maybe like she had to go to the bathroom or something and
her caregiver immediately texted back now. You know she left here to walk there and she's
here,
so both of us. Both she and I
Immediately set out
for her
knowing that she would
the fire boy wise about
Five, nine
Two hundred and thirty pounds
the she was a large woman,
but she had several health issues
being one of her health issues
I asked her to walk slowly.
He also had an artificial knee
She also had a dream
swelling in both angles and
a couple of years previously. She had also broken one of her ankle
and though she had a them.
Screw and applied
It call
so. She didn't go anywhere fast, which
fine. We just wanted her walking, so I knew
that wherever she was, we will catch up with her
and a very quick.
search of the area
including the roadway
we didn't find her. So I immediately call the sheriff.
The sheriff responded immediately to the scene in the search for lorry began at once.
The sheriff responded, do
weekly. We were
we were impressed am with them
the hour. He had garnered a significant search party. It was actually a huge,
search party. I he also called in Nicholas county
marlboro county, so he
we called in resources from
I get counties down within just a few hours
hand me father from all over em cheese searching,
ask you, people on foot people
on horseback people,
tv's people with search dogs,
dogs that were trained for other consent die.
that were trained for tracking
even cadaver dogs,
even a helicopter. It won't
a massive search
rescue response, they searched the backing. They said
the following day, bringing them even more resources, they searched
day after that. Basically,
searched for five days and the car,
stop the search.
When the searches all came up empty, they began to wonder if this was more than lorry just being lost
crime had been committed, the sheriff it papa sire
and when we started
fearing that we
a crime scene that was being
ample by horses in four wheelers, then fire trucks in
the people who were searching. We end
getting. It switched from the local sheriff
you kentucky straight state, troopers and treasure handle bad because of being a police officer. She knew how
you go about requesting it or something.
Given what we know about lorry and the physical limitations, she lived with how
be that she seemingly vanished into thin air,
Lorries family has a few theories as to what could have happened to her
Kathleen informed us of an interaction than officer had with one of churches, neighbours, penny snap,
So then the assumption was somebody picked her up, but in the first day or two of them
search in one of the key.
Neighbors. They had not done this.
Cabin door messaging.
that did not have running water or electricity.
He had a generator anna,
he was an answering well doable.
people were home, but they won't answer
the door, but then
Please star there with a shed in it
Ass from that house, he was shed where they could see smoke coming up.
walk the path and went to the shed and the door
just a little bit ajar and he glanced in it was just one police officer. He saw two
guys in there to mattresses
With bedding and some
I dont know if it was a stove or a bare arm, some sort of heat for
but they were sitting around, he said it was
dark in there and they had their hoodies up. So
really get a close look at them and he asked
They had seen this personal,
they said no,
and he didn't get their names and cheap moved on after that at some point they found out that,
that particular neighbour has a son who was convicted sex,
centre in colorado and
had been reached.
We on the news with being
one of the top ten most wanted. I dont have
its criminal, your sex offenders or whatever, but they had some sort of thing that they would then
over and over on tv. So she would
out there and decided to-
go further into hiding, and he
went down to kentucky and was hiding in that
Building with a friend of his
who was also convicted child sex offenders.
And the mother was
allowing them to live in the shed hidden. They both were.
for a while and violating their from a warm and so at some point, they were
failure to register and when the policeman
for them, they couldn't find them
so now their hiding in Kentucky
I happened to be there the day that
mr went missing, but none of that means that they did
do anything for worry. However, when
police were,
down around like looking around for lorry and
neighbors, they happen
something that indicated
hey marijuana, grow operation and turn
information over to the dna and
he came out and found that an arrested penny and
When the prosecuting attorney was talking to penny snap about
her charges. Her attorney was by her side
prosecuting attorney said to Kenny. Now we ve got
charges here. But if you could
shed some light enough, you have
the information,
the lorry felt case. You know, pray
We could work something out. There
kidding attorney said she alma.
Didn't even have those last words out of her mouth before
snap, leaned in and said,
I get for immunity,
and her
attorney shut it down right,
after that he said fanny this week
minor fine here, it's nothing, you know just
keep your mouth shut and will pay the fountains and be done
and so they left without sharing any information,
There reason to believe that mother.
not only was harbouring
details, but also with looking
For immunity from our own crimes,
Do you know she would give them
information, the husband,
not the father. That was it the time married to pet kenny snap,
Joshua snap, I was told
those first few days, I went out there right away, of course, and stayed with treasure.
We were looking for lorry and he had supposedly that day,
right after the police recalled
to the house. Then out
on horseback for
five hours and
had said. Lady later you know he hadn't been on a horse in a long time, but that
he went out to help
For lorry and
He was gone for about five hours and
he was so for the next couple of days.
He could hardly move and was on the couch now, while that could
just from horseback back rating
for lorry- it could also be, in my mind him covering up what had happened, that family property
had cameras
along the line
all around the house and
eight rottweiler. That would run their property
keeping anybody from
wandering in husband
over the road tracker. So here
be gone,
sometimes doing runs
but other than that, then he would be home. I know it
in point, my
vision was absent.
Choice. Now that has been to Kenny.
because my husband and I had borrowed some metal different,
and I was thinking
laurie had gone towards the road
very well. So probably a king cars go by
few hours, but if
had gone too
road and gotten picked up or hit on action
you know my mind was thinking if warrior with walking along the road and somebody accidently shudder or
like them down, she would have easily.
gotten into anybody's car, because she was just trusting at some point-
you know that could have gone wrong for her and maybe her
jury or her. She added
full alert. Bracelet
she always wore.
Maybe we would
some proof that lorry had gone towards the road that will help us in knowing
what happened or where he wept and joy
do I came down the long believe dirt lane and looks at both of us out there with our matter? Metal detectors,
And I couldn't see his face, but
I'm assuming it was joshua
snap driving at that point and he
Pew now from them,
bowling dirt. Driveway
going the other direction
throwing rocks kind of our direction and it just seemed like a
very aggressive
thing for him to do like he was angry and he
jumped on that all the way down the road, but it
like a very angry agree.
move for him to make towards us by doing that,
It doesn't seem like somebody who would have just then
you know being a good neighbour and out searching for this last woman
the day before, or you know in the days before so then I felt like I suspect,
that he knew something or had done something
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the possibility that lorry got disoriented and flag down a car is high, but we can say for sure that this is exactly what happened. Seeing as there's no concrete evidence that this occurred, trichet,
speak of an incident where lorry mistook neighbours car for her work bus.
she has approached other neighbours.
My neighbor had had told me that one day, boy
I flagged down and said: are you my passion,
You gonna take me to work on
course my neighbors said no honey, I'm not sure, but you need to go wait.
are your house because inside
the boss. That would pick her up,
what actually drive up online and pick
right in front of the farm house.
since you never even had to walk towards.
roadway, so
he's just speculation. What gives you know what, if she dead, fight down a car? What, if she flank them down and
for a wide it's possible because I say
part because
had done that with a neighbour.
Lorries. Family strongly believes that penny snap and the two men she was harbouring in her shed know more about what happened to lorry to them.
It seems to coincidental that their sister would go missing around the same time that these two individuals were on the run from law enforcement dive.
I have to say you know, except for penny, but all the other members are truly wonderful neighbours. It
my mind course we had no idea. She was harbouring these two guys back there and its also passed
all that you know
these two guys picked her up the
I don't know it's hard for me to walk down that line of thinking.
They might have thought about what they might have
to do.
we know that she has been intentionally hidden from us.
another thing that fuels the families belief in this theory is
on the snap property. There was an area of soil that had been disturbed
as if some one had play something underneath the dirt detective
Immersion said he recalled,
the ground being freshly disturbed when he first
responded to the case to the car
two years ago I had
jumping up and down stepping on toast. Why wasn
search warrant issued because
you know that you got not necessarily,
Back ten is not necessarily suspect, but she is clearly
generally about to your witness.
Pottering alai? You know that
There were two guys in that shit. You might not know exactly who they were, but you suspect who they were
and this is clearly evident that they were living in the shadowy body. In the shed there's pa.
Some pans. I mean a lot but like a little chair,
they even had like gum
a little battery.
Powered radio, obviously
the woods starving and
and when they went back to find those two guys. It's as if
Those two guys
and when I mean like the burning, a store where in kind of arm disarray
I literally know all
there
and they did not need they, and I cannot
speech a why not because I have pushed and pushed and pushed around Chris Markham, who was the initial.
Detective assigned a case, just insisted
he did not have enough evidence. I am
We argued about that because I said well.
so what you have is circumstantial evidence, but
I'm stands shop is still on legally recognised form of evidence, even
it's not the best for right.
He wouldn't do it now. I will say this today:
Chris Markham took over the case.
I clearly remember- could he walked in the farm house door and I was I was really
to see him because he locked
professional, clean cut. He looked like. I expect turkey state. Trooper luck,
and I was very relieved- and I asked him- I said detective Markham.
how long have you been a detective six months, man, my heart, just talk to my stomach. Now that
Not necessarily a bad thing, but when I
I keep seen things like.
Feel the need to do. Polygraphs
I think that he had enough for a search warrant. I start
that is a real problem
this day Kathleen still finds the behaviour of the neighbours to be suspicious. She told us more about a recent search that was conducted one, the queen
put together that this sector,
they're from colorado.
Was now
all over the news out there
nowhere to be found, they thought
this, mother lives right next to treasure
and it turns out there
two guys in the shed that
were there that were questioned.
Then they thought wow will go back and ask.
any enjoy. Joshua snap. You know who
the two young men that we're staying
and the out building
penny and joshua looked at them and said
We don't know what you're talking about nobody,
stay here, but us and the
new that wasn't true because they had talked to the two guys, so
they knew then the penny and joshua Joshua we're going to lie about the fact. These two
were there then
something else that happen that the police had
additional
reason to believe that
They had seen. Joshua snap in the area have documented that
He was indeed in the area. So varies.
Can stand, show evidence
as kenny
king for immunity
penny and joshua mine
the police, the fact that,
Joshua way out
back right after lorry disappeared,
Supposedly looking for her and then there were subsequent searches with a crash,
search dogs that were
hitting all around that property. But
Joshua,
early on gotten mad
at a searcher. Who was honest
property,
and told them to get
He didn't want any anymore search
on his property and listened.
Worn
but they never got a warrant
Lee.
think in the last six weeks or so are
private investigator working with the state troopers. Now, instead of.
The local sheriff.
had arranged for a search with dogs, and
gotten permission from joshua snap, whose now divorced from penny and back
kentucky and
they did a search? The dogs hit iron
an area, and they,
He had heard stories from.
Some of their informing and family members out in colorado.
Thing about
car that had been tortured
and then buried on the property and that there might be,
a body in the trunk and-
they didn't
find the car, I believe, but nobody I didn't ever get
police about what
Actually they found out, I was told, is there was no
body found. But the fact is,
two years went by, I mean
physical evidence
to come by and then to make matters
even worse.
When they went and looked in the shed, and it was totally cleared out, like
thing on their farm or on their land is cleared out. It's all filled with John
and trash in whatever, but
if one shed, is complete
they cleared out
one theory that's been tossed around is if lorry could have seen something that picture interest and she wandered off getting lost in the process,
if doesn't feel like. This is likely well
the main reason that we do not believe that that would happen is that we had to real
encourage lorry to move,
like to get up out of the chair or sometimes
I'd be visiting, I'd, say, look at that horse in the field,
walk over to see it
just trying to get her moving and she would say: well, you go ahead I'll just stay here, but if you ask
like treasure, together moving with our so called caregiver and say, could you ask laurie,
to bring a can of soup.
A cabin and lorry would be thrilled to have a cask, so she would put a bag in lorries hand
with a can of soup and send
up to the cabin an idiot
hey Gloria while, but she would make it and she would stay and visit with trish for awhile, while Christian was cleaning and then tricia would say, morgan at the farm house,
said she needed a cat
of, and so she would hinder the bag and lorry having badge
turn memory didn't recall that
it carried that up and
We gladly walk back down there, but she
had bad knees, bad feet back ship was overweight,
an equally winded and didn
like to walk? She wouldn't have walk very far.
voluntarily. She was
fairly weak when it came to the door
Then we were working on that, but would have been difficult,
but she wouldn't have walked far and she wouldn't have walked off,
any path. Although, given the fact that there was something
these activities. I see
could have happened, but-
You know if she had wandered into
Field or in
any area out there. The searchers
Which included a couple of days
after her disappearance included asia helicopter, they would,
located her
ass tricia if she believes that lorry could still be alive out there somewhere
she's not alive her medical condition. She is she
Acquired
education to be taken now.
Daily, but on a rigid scheduled throughout the day.
four times a day, she took significant doses,
anti seizure medication, because
The brain injury did cause epilepsy, and so she
she could have seizures if she didn't take her medication.
lorries family has dealt with so much loss over the years with
passing of their brother in the accident that left lorry with a brain, injury and then years later, lorry disappearing. Further
your brother, Joe it all became too much. He told Melissa about how he was struggling.
This was a couple of weeks, after maybe three after after my sister's disappearance, and I
old up in key, and my brother was sitting outside having a cigarette on them.
in front about house and he just he looked like he was
I could tell that he was
he was really really did
right then
So when I you know it
to super height stressed time
and he and he stood up and we
Put arms around each other and it with me.
me time that I had seen him breakdown. My brother
think I'd ever things cry ever insect. I know
it's the only time in their lives that I can cry. He said
I've been having these terrible nightmare and another,
other word that I would say not just distraught but like haunted like there was something really off
if so and I've been put me
arms around them in part. Just kids like I could see
is falling apart and I didn't quite understood
what what was happening- and I like anyway, he's me, then,
I dont know how to I cannot handle this in turkey with almost like. You were saying things that I remember thinking that he
have taken different man, there's something like he wasn't. He didn't say, sentence
correctly or something like it was something that we need think he was off, but I just
I'll them in and then
he started sobbing, which really cosette it that assist I'd. Never
never happened before, and I just
telling him- and he said you know I was-
in charge of you, kids, who, with the oldest, obviously the other.
brethren and took care of us, but when we were kids- and he said I was always this to protect- you guys, I'm supposed to protect you guys and
now worry is gone and there is not a god
one thing I can do. I can't I can't protect you and I
I don't know what to do. He was just beside himself, you know, and he said I haven't slept in vain, because
I- have these nightmares- and there like this-
visit, nightmares and
over and over again lorries dying
in beaten and you're all dying, and I can't do anything about it. I just I can't live like this, like I can't like I'm
hi Joe had struggled with addiction over the years,
periods where he did really well and then would end up relapsing saddle
the family faced yet another tragedy when Joe passed away from an overdose during the summer following lorries disappearance. So when
My brother died, I with them
that really took charge of dealing with. Can I was
is there in other than by while I was in madison, I could get my walk in
Britain cats were both still if they were
farther away and absorbed in
things around lorries case, so I would say
the kid who handled shows that I feel like at least
my mind. Tat was an tried to support my dad through it
So what happened to lorry felts on December sixteenth, two thousand. Sixteen did she simply become disoriented due to her traumatic, brain injury and wandered off and just hasn't been found
or did she fall victim to an unthinkable act at the hands of her neighbors, there's so many possibilities and missing pieces to this puzzle? We may never truly know the answer to any of these questions. Laurie felt she was last seen on December, twenty six, two thousand and sixteen in Cynthiana Kentucky at the time of her disappearance. She was fifty eight years old. She was five foot, nine inches tall and weighed around two hundred and thirty pounds. She has red, hair and blue eyes. She was last seen wearing a winter coat that went down to her knees, a green shirt in dark, colored pants. She had a medical bracelet on her right wrist that gave her name and contact information. If you have any information regarding the disappearance of laurie felts, please call the kentucky state police at eight five, nine four, two eight one, two one two.
any school, doing very keen to talk about the camp because we know now that the motor and
what pound of body I could walk between occurred in ancient time when he was very lucky to have survived that accident. My younger brother did not survive, but she sustained a traumatic brain injury that disabled her for the rest of her life. So she's always needed care and the forbid I think there were a number of missed opportunities. There is a possibility that laurie appeared or was picked up by somebody
He would have not lived very long without oliver medications and all the help that she needed, but that was our first.
after we realized she didn't just walk away or else
I've been found because the searches were pre
and so it was either somebody picked her up or somebody did something.
That brings us to the end of episode, one hundred and seventy one I'd like to thank Kathleen, melissa and trisha for speaking to us for this episode, special thanks to Jay, klein and petty scott work in the field of disability advocacy and took the time to consult with us for this episode. If you have a missing loved one that you'd like to have featured on the show, there's a case submission form at the vanished podcast dot com. If you'd like to contact me, there's a page and a discussion group on facebook, I'm on twitter at the vanish pod and also on instagram, if you enjoy the show subscribe now and leave a five star review on apple podcasts, spotify wandering dot com or wherever you're listening right now, do you want help support the show? There are a couple of things that you can do. One way to help the vanished is by supporting our sponsors. You can find links and promo codes in the episode notes. Another way to support the show is by filling out a short survey at wanderio dot com. Slash survey join me next time, I'll be covering a case for me. Thanks for listening.
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