Caitlin Dickerson, an immigration reporter for The Times, says there is one word that sums up the Trump administration’s approach to border crossing: deterrence. For nearly four years, the U.S. government has tried to discourage migrants, with reinforced walls, family separation policies and threats of deportation.

Those policies have led to the appearance of a makeshift asylum-seeker camp of frayed tents and filthy conditions within walking distance of the United States.

Today, we ask: What will the legacy of President Trump’s immigration policies be? And will anything change next year?

Guest: Caitlin Dickerson, an immigration reporter for The New York Times.

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Background reading:

• This is what we saw inside the tent camp on the U.S.-Mexico border.
• The Trump administration’s immigration policies have not deterred pregnant women from trying to enter the United States. Here are some of their experiences.
• A federal judge last week ordered the Trump administration to fully restore the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, an Obama-era program designed to shield young, undocumented immigrants from deportation.

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