Admiral James Stavridis and Elliot Ackerman join the podcast at the start of Part 2. Adam asks the Admiral and Elliot to discuss their military careers, and also talks about their new novel that imagines the origins of the next world war. Adam then plays them a clip from Tucker Carlson about the threats that China’s military poses, and they go on to discuss the realities of what a conflict between our two countries could look like. Later they talk about the new Top Gun movie, the future of our navy, and the end game for China. As the show wraps up, Gina reads news stories about the LA teachers union reaching a deal to re-open in April, the latest with Vanessa Bryant, a murder suspect accidently released from Riker’s Island that is still at large, Lady Gaga’s dognapping, and Mumford and Sons’ Winston Marshal taking time away from the band after receiving backlash from a book endorsement.
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