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so what's going on here is the United States? Is congresses decided that we cannot find the countries to fight the sandinistas in Nicaragua right, shut off funding, so the Reagan administration makes a deep cover. To push to continue doing so right through a bunch of fine in shady ways right there fundraiser. Their directly, arming the contrary, their training M, due in all sorts of crazy stuff, yes if you know that this is about IRAN's Contra and you're like what about it What's going on here, I haven't heard: meeting about IRAN, keep your socks. I will here we go. This is where IRAN interest the picture. You take your socks off, go your socks on I've got a little foot. He succeeded. I do to Bulgaria is a two week

the way to get Jerry had has thus true footing is where you can't even see him at all. I can see you mind pick out just a little, which I'm not a huge Vienna. To your mind, Nanoscience no seems ok Inter IRAN. We that was a great in time. It is went away, that's right so on the other side of the world from Nicaragua, there is another foreign policy disaster simmering that Reagan head going and it was in the form of IRAN and specifically It was an uniform run. It was in the form of a problem, america- had doesn't really have much these days, but definitely did in the seventies and eighties, where Americans would be taken hostage. Around the world, but specifically almost exclusively by lebanese terrorists who were, if not worse, on behalf of IRAN, were definitely sponsored by IRAN and, regardless of who is president

the fact that there are hostages being held by another country. There was anything we can do about it. There was a blemish on the presidency. It was not A very proud thing to think about for America, but there was a reality for awhile there. Yes, so we re the time this is the early eighties. This is just a few years removed from the iranian Revolution of nineteen. Seventy nine- and this is where we talked about it before look up photos of IRAN in the MID seventies, pre revolution, you right and it looks like one then the swinging, Sixtys and Seventys here very cannot place too Iranian revolution happens: fundamentals taken hold the government that was previously the shock of IRAN who is friendly to the west. Sure friendly too America generally and The Ayatollah Khomeini Khamenei, I've always had Khamenei Khamenei, insulted is like theocracy and bad things started happening pretty quickly.

Here there is a it was about, is quickly turn about face politically and socially. Is you Imagine if a whole country here, but not everyone in the country is, will learn like the whole country, too. Change overnight. No, but they ve, the islamic theocracy was in power, should very much so one of the things that happened was there very fond of America or Americans, and the American embassy was famously stormed and sixty six Amerika and working there were taken hostage and held for more than a year. Man. I was like. This is, I really remember like four hundred and forty two, these are the four hundred and forty four days, man, the iranian postage crisis. I remember this is a nine year old, very clearly, really

oh yeah? I have no recollection idea. It was a big deal, yellow ribbons and it was on the news constantly. I remember entering the room and being like was this have to do with rainbow right and turn this news cast even remember so what happened was Jimmy Carter did not get these hostages free during his his what say rain, but on vicinity Jimmy Carter, wasn't rape exert during his administration is iron fist, a drain. The days of terror, but within a few days and that may have caused some election, but within a few days of our, even a Reagan's inauguration. The hostages were freed and, number it is as a nine year old hearing, kids parroting their parents conversations. Like it was really Carter that had him freed all the work he did up until then, then other kids saying are you kidding as soon as Reagan got an office. They knew that they were toast. Great and rigour

wouldn't gonna be a Patsy like corridor, and I was like what's a Patsy and you are these did no, but I remember very distinctly. It's weird like on the playground hearing the stuff: that's fine little nine year old. I definitely didn't hear this when I was a kid, but I remember hearing later on, as a grown up still in a bright that it was Reagan's campaign was somehow in touch with IRAN. A year and a Baden brokered. This have also got them to wait to release them suggest until after Reagan was in office. The timing was not at all hours after its inauguration right no accident, it's a little fish, you know what I mean, but whether it was that's funny that, sure. Somebody's parents were like yet it's they were so scared Reagan. They re they better release these guys. That's totally not the case. Is there were other hostages taken by other by actual lump lebanese There is two were probably sponsored by IRAN, and now

They were held throughout Reagan's presidency, yet that sort of a big part of this. The second half of the story right was this that that was very embarrassing for Reagan. He didn't like house, it is being held on his watch. Nobody campaigned against negotiating with sooner anyway. I'm stances so he's stuck now yeah because it basically saying if you get taken hostage, when you're on your own. What world will use our rhetoric and whatever we can to influence you being released, but we're not going to negotiate yet? Are you really so yeah just the way? It is, and that's a long standing american policy and it makes sense because If you negotiate with terrorists, then that she's going to more kidnappings, yeah because they know that your open for business like anywhere in the world. Yet there was a kidnapping. He w, if I ate forty, seven, very, very famous one. You know the picture of like that I'll, leaning out of the Cairo here in a guys actually with the gun behind them, those eight forty seven bright, and there was the

I mean they. There was by remember, thou and those of his probably nine, then, and there was discussed consumers in all replace you had no idea. What's gonna happen, people be, being on the plane when Navy guy was be men, Shaw, Thro, his body thrown on the tarmac. Had the eighties like it seems comparatively tame. Now your way as compared to the things he used to go on. Thank Mcdonald's, hijack Syn nothing's and hostages, it's like in the eighties were nuts. They were not spite. Pack, man, no, you know pragmatically, knows Pachmann rapid riding. It was crazy right revenue who are you there Roddy Piper Rapid, Ronnie, Dangerfield, his big hit. Oh yeah, no respect what about what about the iraqi shuffle? those who are crazy and eightys sure ladies Agatha look out for you, the the bears suppose there thing out the Superbowl shovel Superbowl, shuffle right yeah, that was pretty eightys. I think they were

for there were putting you know. My band every year plays for sure one gig indicators, porch vest, and every year we D tried you a theme in this you're doing eighty sort of new way of north and a jokingly, suggested Pachmann feed the rough and ready yes, you do know, has Sondra there. What do you have a scythe player play with you about Emily, a keyboard, did you know? Has such however, I hope it's cool there now she's practicing I've heard, do that, I'm she play piano and you get out and the biggest stretch. I've heard that one of the Her do one blondie song. She just brought the house there Are we might one way or another? Yes, we might bring it back. Cassettes, eighties, yeah or was it seventies, so close on the cusp. I seriously doubt anybody's gonna throw a beer cans before it anyway, portress everyone publicize it in October, nice, so God's hands, are tied in every way possible cause. He can't on he.

Can negotiate with terrorists. The only option is to send in a covert delta forced team which they Carter tried that work than always work. You can lose your own men and I think that's what happened in kurdish Gates rail pursue. So, What it can do, though, without anyone knowing is totally negotiate with her Yet as long as the american public doesn't know sure yeah and that's what happened any further. Oh that Reagan, Playbook where it's like. Ok, I said this well. If I just changed this one little part right, it makes it all fine I tried again as long as the american public doesn't know so, while right in said america- will never negotiate with with hostages. They didn't say Israel will never negotiate with our bad terrorists for hostages right now so action. Israel had a long standing policy of negotiating with terrorists. They waiting, would kidnap people from the other side and then they like I'll give you five guys. I've only

to let me kidnap a few people. Ok now I have five like there would be negotiations for a hostage exchanges or the time between Israel and Palestine right there was over. There just knew what they were doing. So they said. Okay, well, if, if Israel goes to IRAN and says hey, you know this American over there, I want you get them released. We can help you out with some stuff. We I think about this. Yes so earlier when I mention the fact that IRAN as a whole cloth did not change overnight as a country that the government did that there were still some plenty. People there. There were a little more moderate in their views. The Reagan administration had a channel to them, so he talking to them these more moderate factions and make little headway and they were like by the way, will totally gibbey these hostages. If you give us all,

yeah, because IRAN was fighting the IRAN, Iraq war at least half of it. Yet this is just where stuff is totally crazy because we were, we were funding, but lies at the very least, were advising both sides. Well me, directly gave money. Oh yeah, Iraq, no you're right, we saw them weapons and we provided training and intelligence right idleness. Was this wasn't secret? This is like a real deal, we are publicly supporting Iraq, but then we were secretly arming IRAN Ya, think what they never proved beyond a doubt was that we went to Saddam Hussein and said hey you go in there and overthrow IRAN, a really yeah there was never really started it. I don't think that was ever. There was alive circumstance evidence that that was the case, but never like the smoking gun that we actually encourage. Saddam Hussein deduce Gotcha basis.

MA am when you look at how all this played out with your sisters, maddening NEA and yet it said as show yes Iraq and IRAN or fighting where supplying both play on both sides of the coin right and we offered arms to IRAN and he's gonna call in a not ghostbusters Oh Gabon, afar! Well, you gotTa Kali North, oh yeah, ok, I would again. Yeah, because, okay, so remember all in north is total novice. When it comes to cover it up. Operational by only my area. Yeah he's been run in Nicaragua for years now, yet just doing a bang up job of it, so they there well sure will have him. Do this incredibly illegal supersensitive arms sale to IRAN to won't, you come on over here Ali and Ok, that's fine, but I need it yet the lay of the land- and he actually true failed to IRAN with a fake passport you're, an assumed name, William P good was the knee and

when he went it was. It was dangerous enough that William Casey Supposedly Oliver North later testified gave him cyanide pills. He could take his own life rather be tortured by the Iranian. If if this were in fact like some sort of set up again right out of a movie yeah, but Oliver, with went to IRAN with cyanide pills and fake. That's what Billy good so everything though it did, he didn't, need the Sinai pills after he did not. He dealt with like you mentioned earlier, this iranian businessman name Gordana far, and this guy was ten shades of shady so much so that the sea. I wouldn't even deal with another issue to burn notice on him and ninety three, which is under no, that is, that means that the disease is dead to us. It's basically to stay now get putting mumble ass to all the other intelligence agencies in the world's danger persona.

On Friday. I won't even deal with this guy and solely northeast gal deal with this guy current. So with help Oliver, nor set up a deal where it is so simple to look at that Israel you give them mere missiles and then we'll just replace those missiles for you with our message yeah. So we're not given the missiles know our ambition no American explicitly said to IRAN, hey were doing this. So that you guys were get these hostages released it wasn't it. Four hostages deal and so Reagan's vowed and never negotiate with terrorists remained in that's right. Five hundred and eight Theo, w toe missiles was sent for to blanched optically tracked wireless guided missiles, which is like it's like they, the tube

there's a tube can be like mounted on the ground mounted. On a jeep at Super portable, but they are the blossom stuff up. I think I've seen, as you have said, Five hundred and eight of these made it from is hell to IRAN and then in very short order. Couple days later, one of the hostages, Benjamin we Europe, Minister, who was held by lebanese terrorists for sixteen months, was released so worked The workers are, there was a big deal around the White House too, but they said: let's try it again, but this time it seems a little messy to get Israel involve us. Do this ourselves, Ali think you can handle. It said sure meagre barter for have this. So the then Israel giving arms to IRAN Richard See, cord got broaden dislike with Nigger.

And again this isn't like years after Nicaragua right Nicaragua's, a full bore and false while it still going on and Ali North is running both operation simultaneously and so that the new set up was the department of Hence we sell the CIA missiles for thirty seven hundred bucks, a pot yak this I would sell into Richard see cord at cost and then see cord would sell em too Gore bought a for ten grand apiece. And then go bonafide would go sound to IRAN for whatever he charged IRAN alike. Can you imagine? I can't I gearing more than the ten grand yet, and this happened multiple times over the course of a little over a year, America secretly transferred two thousand missiles and missile parts to IRAN in eight shipments. Yet for the release of hostages, yet Millie. There are three hostages that got released out of seven that had been taken hostage total. Yet

and didn't you say. Ultimately, there were three more hostages taken, so they netted out zero zero. So but there was there was the whole IRAN operation, Yemen, the deal's. This price market means that Shell company in the swiss Bank accounts we're making a lot of money and so much so I think one of em three million dollars made an interest alone, so at some point Someone's like hey this This is a money making operation. Now. What are we to high little bo on all this? some of that money to fund. The contrast cause you guys are doing both of these things you need money. Congress won't give it to you the fund raising omelettes russian soldiers The money from these illegal arms sales to fund the contrasts. Yet and that's exactly what happened. So to put it in plain terms,

America illegally and secretly sold missiles to IRAN, use the proceeds from US missile to secretly and illegally find the contrast to help them over, their government on Nicaragua, that's the the administration did. That's that's why it's called IRAN content That's where they came together. There is a diversion of funds all around, I think it was came together. There is a diversion of eighty. Six respond. Finally got back on board because of this strong beat from Reagan over the years of Heaven We need to really do this officially and keep Congress don't know any. This is going on right secretly. In Congress said that no any give you a hundred right dollars to aid. This cause Craig inserting Huh, huh dignity, dark That was the end of all the covert stuff. It wasn't that now it still ten you'd on, but now it was the legitimize and had even been funding, but there was no

at the end of the whole thing, like everybody didn't just get the walkway through. That was closed, because the whole thing started to come apart actually- and I say that we taking a break and come back and talk about it after this. Well now we take an outbreak road driving in talk about it, great learn, a thing or two Josh and stuff you should know right here. It's me, Jack Moraine. Here you right next year by next to me, just like a work, hey one day. I join with you to tell people too tune in to a very special episode special year of tedious.

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ship today look Chuck, so nineteen, eighty six, MRS back on board. I think it so worth pointing out that that's exactly four years after the Democrats took control nineteen eighty two, so I wonder if the Republicans took control back and eighty six and that's why the funding get turned back onto the countries meet solve this. I'd like to so this all might have. Who knows This ever would have even been found out, headed not been for the sharp shooting of a young Sandinistas soldier name Jose Fernando Canal S, old man in October fifth, nineteen, eighty six- there was a cargo plain to see one twenty three called the provider flying seventy Soviet Commissioner,

a hundred thousand rounds of ammo rocket, grenades and other supplies, and this is one of the things we said they would find things over and kick him out the back of the plane. Sure this is one of those those run yet the problem with this particular run, though, is that they did this had twenty five hundred feet in broad daylight, giving a little lazy tat bit air, maybe cocky, I don't even of his. I think it was more like this is just work. It was an array of job by this time had been doing for years here. You know, operation was just how men along so nicely there was almost an auto pilot, so they they did. This one supply drop on October, fifth, nineteen, eighty six in broad daylight- and they were or Cruel board, William J Cooper Wallace by Sawyer, Freddy Villages, and a guy named Eugene Hoss, inverse, who and again the sliding doors thing Hudson. Since the only guy who had a parachute. He borrowed it from his brother skydive work. As you know, he thought might be smart to take a parachute right, no no said parachute,

Had he not had a parachute this man to have turned out differently, you may have for sure he was the only one that survived this plane crash, because he was the only one who borrowed the parachute from his brother and he jumped out, landed it safely into the jungle, and I think he actually survived invaded the sandinistas for maybe a day or something like that before he was captured and when he was captured, they let him out of the jungle. I come with a rope around his neck is just about his big of a prisoner. As you can imagine super publicized their billboards of of him being let around by sandinistas, and they started asking him questions and he He was like. What do you want to know? He sang like a canary new really did. He said this is my tent supply mission I presume that the CIA is running this. I don't know, and he would know this would be some

that he would, he could legitimately guess at at least because he had actually worked on sea. A airdrops over Vietnam or Cambodia for AIR America back in the Vietnam WAR. Yet wasn't like he. Things like a canary because he's not very high up on the told him Paul like his job, was to get up there and shoved the stuff the back of the plane right for three grand a month right he wasn't. Even CIA operators does former Marine who had a backroom working with AIR America years before, but by this by the time he joins on doing this further contras he was like working as a construction, work or part time in Wisconsin right home. So this pretty good money. I think I hear he's gay seven grand in today's dollars a month for basically kickin ache. Forty seven creates out the back of her playing over Nicaragua, yes he's on the kind of guy. That's gonna, take the fall right for anyone, cities hissing and like a canary, even if he had

his mouth shut. It wouldn't matter, while the elder, like great yeah, because all the other guys, including Hassen fuss, had their wallets on the plane they had. All their employee idee cards and, in fact only that mentioned in episode, one that the company. What that was set up to do these drops is set up was called southern air transfer out of my guess. Miami so they all had our southern air transport. I t cards, which was the C. I a fright like everybody knew southern transport with the idea tat. They might have had like CIA Junior badges or sunrise like Michael Keaton and out of sight when he has the big F b. I t shirt anything that alliums right now is that the one where you George, Clooney and Jennifer Lopez is here a guy in those

good guy. He walks in he plays Ray Nicolet who played same character and Jackie Brown FBI. Ok, but it's funny cause he walks and with an FBI, T shirt on and Denis Farinas, Jennifer Lopez is dead, and he's a former cup, and he goes hey Ray. Let me ask you got one this as undercover, then is Farina class. Add Romania's he out of sight, that's class. Took one of the better, but I mean I know exactly the move you talking. Monies are avoided it like the plague, it's so good a cat. You would love it. So southern air transport, see right, there's. Also a log book that connected this flight and all the other flights and then Hassen fuss in his wallet had a business guard to Robert W Owen, there's a big one who was working with help of her north in Washington, right which so that provided direct line between Oliver North area and some guys who were key in Kalashnikovs out of the back of a plain over Nicaragua here

so there was a really big deal that when this guy got captured- and you know, told the sandinistas as much as he knew his assent- history like attention world yeah, listen where we is found out CIA has totally been funding these Contra rebels, who are trying to overthrow the sovereign government and dumb. We think you guys should know about it. Yet it was, it wasn't like you could totally discount that even those from the Sandinistas like Congress and the american media right, what I'm sure congresses like wait, a minute right this this reeks of like something that had and happening that we tried to shut down yet because remember even The CIA was briefing Congress is either Bill, Casey or doing clarity, and they were doing a really obtuse job of this right, keeping Congress at ARM's length. So any time something like this came out. Almost none of Congress New, full extent of this, and it was always in flagrant,

election of Congress Monitor whatever Congress it agreed to yet in this, was it like. This was sort of the strong look at all open or that broke the camel's back. Camel's back wide open. That's correct, working things have been unravelling forbid those a party in nineteen. Five in Virginia the thrown by soldier, Fourchan magazine can you imagine, know, what's that Party like. I don't want to know. I can imagine I used to read soldier of fortune when I was in my ninja training is like a ten year old boy, and even then I was like this. This magazine makes my stomach her and has in nineteen eighty five. I can you imagine the amount of lake blow being secretly done in the bathroom that party cure. Also there making snuff movies in the liver whom in theirs tell him what was gone on a soldier of fortune. We can tell The very least there is a lot of boasting going on Europe and about this contract

operation and again this time on people who know about this stuff, You know what happens is like you get enough people. In a few years and people start talking, it'll start brag, India and all of a sudden our ear. You have a couple of Jenin tonics at a soldier of Fortune Party here, if you like, hey, guess what an that's. What happened? Somebody knows what you go here come CN. They dropped the They dropped the bomb that what's been going on a concern citizen, here's this. I guess he must have been mistaken. We invite, It did the soldier patch, I don't know how they guy guy buyer. They just happened is talk to the wrong guy or whatever, by probably that he was like. I M really full of my life. We rather's, but I feel, like somebody, should know We went to a lawyer, a human rights. Lawyer named David Sheehan, anything you go. Tell everybody you put your life on the line, then he did. He submitted an affidavit to federal court started

do in interviews talking to journalists. Drumming up support. White House was like we don't know what you're talking about your crazy man like this is all one hundred percent made up Finally, it took a lebanese newspaper out Shearer that reported on this deal, this arms for hostage deal like in a legitimate newspaper right. So both stories have been blown open. You ve got Eugene, has first captured and conjure operation is blown open and now I'll Shearer is. Is reporting on the IRAN arms for hostage deal and really crazily enough. These two separate arms of this one scandal came out within a month of each other. Here, lay witches it's bizarre, but that's what happened and now I was like theirs is on the table. America's media knows about Congress knows about it. Heads are about to roll. I will take our final break.

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These haired Secretary Fawn Hall. I forgot looked out like fawn how I looked up and soon, as I sorrows like right, yeah, Fawn Hall, Sir, who can forget hair. She could barely walk through a door. No owes join. Enormous pressure is so great and I would be fearful around the shredder of our her but she was not fearful at all. She and Oliver North spent a day they could be. The shredding party I mean, We will never know the the full truth behind because of all the evidence that they shredded, as far as anyone knows, Oliver North decided on his own to shred every doc he had on it. That's right and yeah, that's that's it. It's did downwards D. The official narrative tat has been written into the history book, which you can just you guarantee is not anywhere near. The full story right. So it all comes out. The Reagan administration start looking around and there like well who who's gonna, be the Patsy for this one

and Oliver North could not escape it now, but there I can ease small potatoes he's he's he'll he'll go down. Why think he was even willing to take the following key mirrors: gonna be the fall. Guy was like. Ok, that's part of John bright. But they knew that it had to the american public Certainly, Congress wasn't gonna be satisfied with just Oliver North right, so who did they land on, so that their fish line became this Poindexter guess Macfarlane what started it became fully aware of just how badly radium wanted to help the contrasts and said, I'm gonna do something about this and tapped Ali North and said we need to help. Countries out go help em out figure it out and northward often basically went Rogan his own and set up this whole operation created. This higher network with sea cord decide to do the iranian arms deal all this stuff, basically on his own right

Greg an Bush knew nothing about it, nothing about it and that the buck stops at Poindexter, ultimately didn't go any further, William Casey being CIA. He was basically out of the loop. That was the official story. They came out with a try and America when you're kidding right This is a joke yeah I mean I remember these hearings, even as a law kid like watching these and then watching the news coverage of it and like we mention Oliver nor strolling in there with his dress, uniform, and you know by accounts been pretty stand up I like you, didn't Randy One out. He didn't, but he also he was like theirs, there's no way the president didn't know about this. He said I dont have any direct evidence that the president did know about it by right. It is my understanding that the president was fully aware of what was going on here. What was to deal with this missile supply shipment, though that's one thing it in quite get so there was north get rid of all the documents that he could write right. Well,

didn't have any control, overseer documents and at that first missile resupply where they were Reese applying is real yeah. He had a CIA, he basically said: hey CIA, do you know anybody? I can use to ship these things? I'm I'm a garden emergency. I need to get these two Israel faster and the CIA being CIA still bureaucracy, they had to document this event right. So there the document out there now right and not shredded right that he could get his hands on that he couldn't shred and so this, led to rake in taking sponsor belief or saying Ok, I was aware of this. Is IRAN so deal by backdating in order to William Casey saying I order you not to tell Congress it is about this. Writing, though. You're supposed to say Reagan basically said on paper I know about this IRAN. This one missile transfer to IRAN had no idea about the contrasts. Right, ok and if, firstly,

turn, it of denying everything- oh yeah, like after that, I'll. Sheer a story that we talked about, he went on. Television Reagan did and denied everything every he said all this is the total beer yeah exactly one day. I stop talking about ten days after Reagan had another press conference where he talked him. The IRAN operation, and he acknowledged it but said what were really doing here- is trying to sort of send a signal to Europe. On that where we want friendlier relations right, that it was not arms were hostage exactly and then to those ten days. For the first two, not right and then four months after that, because the boarding would not stop. He basically said: ok, yeah in whatever it started out, as I admit that it devolved into an arms for hostage deal which even now even that admission, which is the closest he ever came to admitting you no responsibility for the evening.

This total bs and fantasy. It was from the outset in arms, for hostages deal right. The whole thing was set up to get hostages released and that that was it. So there is, there is no other way to put it but that's him. He denied that to his dying day as far as far Poindexter resign. Oliver North was fired Casey died in a hospital, I'm not too long after this whole thing like was exceed Let me like weeks yeah, so the press is dollar. President. He appointed our commission. Yet there look into this. The president appointed a commission to investigate yet the president's own administrations wrong doing that's right and it was determined that Reagan's disengagement from the man Men of his White House created conditions conditions such that it was possible that? He did not know about this, which does the absolute best official finding he could have hoped for

basically says ring it didn't know. He had a row guy work and form a true believer. A patriot Berrigan did know about this and yeah. He should, if he should have had a clue, your watch on as executive branch, but he didn't. What are you gonna do, let's give Mister t and for a photo up with Nancy, a criminal investigation and what they were really hunting and on was the eighteen million dollars and profits. That were made and what happened to that money where it went. Fourteen people were charged Oliver North was tried and found guilty on three counts here. One of the count was forgetting a sixteen thousand dollars security system installed in his home courtesy of he cord. With with that money. There is a rumour that his his the bounty on his head from terrorists right and Lord hooked em up right now, big problem for north, because north whole bag was, I

following orders right that I assume were come. From the president, ultimately and I was doing it out of my patriotic duty and a sense of you. The true believer that we, your accurate of communism and the american public loved it. There is a great make this man a sink right Congress started to love it to any got off, but TAT was a real problem because it saying oh, you took this gift right from funds from the illicit arms sale right, but it was a gift of a security system to help protect as family. So it's not like you know, is a gift of ten. Sounds a blow and my help end. The nicaraguan sex workers from understand anything govern exactly see. Cord was convicted of one count applying to Congress and the investigators he basically denied that north received any funds from any of this, so it still canna hinged on that security system

that's right, and so everybody went to jail forever after that point right now, that's not true at all. I am a keen got two years probation Five thousand dollar fine seeker got two years probation. Is that what he meant by yours, probation today You guys who were actually running the company that ran this whole thing. Each got two years probation. Its conviction was overturned on a technicality and President Bush, the the senior Bush on Christmas Eve, but this is Christmas, Eve ass. He was leaving office right. He issued six pardons based lot lot. Let everyone off the hook, including Casper one or who had never gone to trial. Yet no neither head doing clarity. Dewey clarity is going to stand trial to both of them receive pre, emptive pardons, and people like there was the shadiest set of pardons anyone's ever issued because there's a people out there who say: Bush really walked away from this Scot free

there is no way he wasn't. Even more involved in this than Reagan was yet mean. George Bush withheld subpoenaed. His subpoenaed diary entries that, basically, Decatur. They had full knowledge of this, the entire time eventually. Ninety ninety two independent Council Lawrence Walsh, asked for these again and ambush likes it. I asked you for these diary and trees and bushes. I got in Did I didn't fully understand, There was inadvertent via asked me for a lot of stuff. I did know yes, for the diary, entries and while she was really upset- and he said- the ran Contra Contra Cover up- has now been completed and George Bush's a president who has such a contempt for honesty and arrogant, disregard for the rule of law yeah and in the new, the forestalling that the Reagan and White House and then later on, the Bush White House did

in allowing these investigations to go forward and in trying to keep Congress at ARM's length after everything came out, it worked because there, articles of impeachment, introduced in the house against already now and they manage to stave off too. Where was likewise leaving office anyway forget about it. This investigation took here in years and years and then, finally, when Bush pardoned everybody does it there is nothing else to do everybody who is involved. Those implicate was was off Scot free and then fact that Oliver North shredded all those documents they were all lost. A history, like the actual truth, is lost to him yeah Reagan's his reputation took a hit a temporary hit, for a while there he went from sixty three percent in the span of a couple of months to forty three to forty seven percent, depending on which Paul you looked at, on his approval rating, and he would get back, though, despite and the ninety ninety deposition, the very very famous

a position where Ronald and said I dont remember- or I don't recall eighty eight times, those very big deal is all over. The news year was the arm, most his famous or justice famous bill. Clinton's very famous depends what you're definite is is right exactly but Reagan rebounded. He did man to the most popular presidency since Fdi yeah upon his exit. His approval raining had bound solemnly back up to the early sixties, mister key, famously carry them out of the White House on his shoulders on his last day in office man. So it's IRAN contravene for a story heck of a storm there's this movie now, hopefully, will get some rights to after the surpluses I wanna play Pawn hall. That's great! You get Jerry to play for whole every great jerry Well. In the meantime, while we find a suitable wig for Jerry, you kin

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