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And, as always, I increasingly relevant and they come from the best part of the show, which is your fellow conspiracy, realist, Matt, no, I'd like to take us off today Ok with you guys how history celebrate locate so bitter background here, before we get into some of this correspondence. As you, as you may or may not know. Our team does does this on a professional level like it is weirdly enough through a series of amazing The coincidence is going gettings. We have. We have ended up work, in part, cast production. All of us. for a number of years and This means that we are in a way part of the entered industry now make no mistakes. Folks were not where I bragging we're, not big.

Deals whose, like the biggest deal and entertainment area like film in TV, whose, like the the bit when you think a big deal, Think of his like J J Abrams like more Michael's or Oprah Winfrey the cowardly lion from the Metro, Goldwyn Mayor opening title yeah yeah, it's a big deal, nearly the two guys out of diameter. No one is bigger, Adam Sandler, except perhaps the characters he plays, such as the lunch lady eyes, mad of a million voices, so no navigate does about to pieces, and even if I didn't, I yeah, I didn't say a million different voices. I gotta get again. I will say I would watch a movie about the lunch lady. That would be a delight. Yes, you say that now, so we have for our first piece of western correspond We are actually going to ask

emphasise an summarize the acts letters, excellent and thorough letters we received from two people working in the interim? payment industry. Will we see entertainment industry where specific Are we talking about film tv streaming, that kind of stuff to stop. It, everybody ran to amid the pandemic, to escape the the at times, emotionally penurious existence of a force. hermitage. So our first letter arrives to us from the duchess of shoulder fade, shoulder fade All one word. I like that Saturday, hairdo Socio RFID unclear with a good name unclear.

Significance of the code name is unclear, but surely the duchess will right back to us with an explanation if they see so fit so near. We got the duchess rights from with in the Bow of this industry and says impart quote, as we big Hollywood FAT cats studio executives. Known by the abbreviation M p p are actively try to continue their exploitation of thousands of hard working and highly trained artist, who the abuse every single day. The public. heavily consumes the fruits of our body and mind depleting labors needs to be aware of how and at what cost there entertainment sausage is me if

one is against unfair and unhealthy labour practices and conditions. Then they must support the eye out, see crew members that are literally died, making content, so you can quote Netflix and chill so the M p p that judges is referring. Here, too, is something called the alliance of Motion picture and television producers, and I, at Sea a union its sands were international alliances, theater and stage employees and, as the duchess explains it represents all of the people. The work in feed and film in tv production that are considered below the lie below the lines and important distinction. This is a wage, it's almost everybody on the other side of the camera, all of the people who are making this vision, this

story. This experience possible. I at sea The duchess says: does not represent actors, directors, assistant directors, producers or production assistants who pay by the way, probably get the first You stand of the figurative lollipop here this division, this line people refer to a means people above the line, those actors, writers, directors, producers tend to be, you'd better, they tend to be treated. They tend to have superior working conditions, as the duchess explains Their information specifically pertains to the thirteen West Coast locals they make up them some picture and television department of Icy represents in the are directors brought makers, make up artist, costume, designers, editors, script, supervisors and many more so here's what's goin on

there is a strike. Brewing has been born in for some time. I am This is information that is not going to be new to our many fellow listeners who work in this industry, the p all in the union Archer says, of course, don't want to go on strike, but their literally fighting for their lives and asking not for an opulent a sustainable standard of living recommend, checking out the Instagram page. I underscore stories if you would like to learn more about specific individuals experiences. shared anonymously, of course, for fear of reprisals from the industry and The duchess goes on specifically to name a couple of things we like to share with you the things that Yeah see is striving to make reality

and when you hear these, if you're not familiar with the industry, it will probably surprise you like this stuff that these folks are fighting. Well, we'll seem it'll get a cold shower of a perspective. First, the idea do we turn around, which means all union members all locals get that in our guaranteed minimum before they have a turnaround. Secondly, they want to stop working mission creep into working on the weekends there what we can turn around the India. Return for this is fracture day has, imagine that means Friday, shoot that eventually ends up being attacked. how Saturday shoot they also don't want to two new the practice was called rolling, lunches, Rowley lunches where filmy never stops crew members rotate themselves out for a break and the duchess says that the problem with this is that in real

stick terms, is often not enough crew too, who take out? Because everybody has a specific job: it's not Everyone can do every job, someone be a world class said tiger refer, but they don't know first thing about hair make up, and they shouldn't have to register quick question clarifies turn around. It refers to literally the time in between shifts lay yes, Otherwise, it becomes like a double shaft like that fraternize figure talk. Him are correct that problem is exacerbated way. You have someone who see works, one of those infamous fatter days and then has very little turn around time before they have to be back on set, keep in mind. You know a lot of these. The lot of these professionals have to be on one occasion way before filming, actually occurs. There is time of working hours and hours now hours of work that goes into a issue before the rest,

like the on camera. Folks arrive Also, they want a living wage for the lowest paid. I ought see members, some of whom barely make above minimum wage reconsidered, on call, which means work, however many hours it takes and the illegal the same amount every week, then also what overall wage increases better fund for health and pension plans, and here is the big would improve. Went to what are called new media wages and conditions were read this part in full back six years ago, says the duchess. When streaming was new and people are waking webs series, I ought see added a side agreement to the basic agreement, the loud. What was at the time, and called new media that you netflix your Amazon, you Hulu crackle back in the day, I do special contracts that essentially gave them a price break. This was a new form of production? No one stood at the time I Archie agreed to

for less money in order to help the new platform may content and be successful the term new media is obsolete. Now it's streaming, it's no longer new Amazon, Netflix Peacock, Disney HBO they're, all studios who stream their content, and they are not struggling new media platforms. I ought she wishes to modify these contracts. Many of them are very low rates that exploit those below the lime. Workers streaming media as justice, huge budget as regular network tv, even larger. In some cases they, no longer be able to pay those measly new media rates, they're making millions off streaming yet one to continue getting. These bricks will now we think streaming music, her. Brothers is streaming every single movie on their slate for the year, in addition to putting it on theatres because of covert something that is the very definition of an industry. Uk's exploiting essentially a loophole. A term that would like little. My web series like that, we're just put out on Youtube independently there

literally, so that people making those could afford to hire union crew. And now these big massive companies are totally exploiting that whole term that is about is painfully exploitive. Yeah. It is- and it's also a reminds me of the old observation that is unfortunately so often true power Rarely given must often be taken, so The duchess goes on and we are. We are summarizing, so this by goes on to explain real world consequences of people who are labouring under these conditions even before Cove it. Of course, it's normal to have these long long working hours going into a shoot at seven, a m on a Friday getting off it three a m on Saturday, the next day the duchess notes. Crew members are dying when their dreams

home after working fifteen. Sixteen seventeen hours shifts with minimal sleep, and this could We as an impact on people's quality of life, their relationships outside of the job. This is an unsustainable situation duchess. I want to thank you for this thorough and objective look at the problems that are hurry. What's leading to this stuff, again, I believe, we're in conversations off air the union's wrote on strike occurs between October first in October. Third, so yeah to be hearing this after the voting has occurred. Duchess, with saying I just want to, they consume and enjoy. What we make to hear our stories and to let the studios, which are literally owned by giant tech companies now know they stand with icy, were not Hollywood elite. The duchess says

hard working craftspeople that are literally dying, making sitcoms now sure how listeners can help other than by, cancelling their streaming memberships, commenting against M p p on articles about the situation may be calling studios on social media. So this is not. Let's just a quick pause before we continue. This is something I think that that we at all, we in dark and mission control had heard about brewing because it land is a bit of it. up and coming town fulfilment production. Would you agree? I would even call it up and coming anymore it sort of the place he Ali Way debate. The blade built pine but studios where they shot only regionally James Bond movies in London or in England. The UK, and they the second only only second ever pinewood studios is here in Atlanta, or this all the marble new movies mean it's become like home base a yet. We all know people who were

have dated people perhaps or burn the dear friends of people who have been subjected kind of conditions for four years. You both, I believe, met the girl. I died data for awhile, who was an assistant director, continues to me, and it was hard to find time with her. like to even an hour schedules: Rousseau weirdly, miss, align and allow that was because of these turnarounds, whereby the wood there existing to violate the rules that apply may now even with the help of every union, I just seems like the cards- are definitely stacked against against these folks. In a lot of ways, specially, like you said, been the people who need maybe the most help we're making the least amount of money. I mean she, thankfully, was pretty pretty bad fancy position. You know that sets up the ladder, quite a bed, and maybe those too poorly. Ok, all right. It's worth it I'll I'll deal with that you now than they take all their vacation in one big go but provokes it is trying to get a foot in the door. I mean it there absolutely being taken advantage of the air, I think a bit

in Atlanta always very helpful here, but it's also logistic something that is happening every major city on the planet. They re now the cost Living is going up, but the raises these standard raises that are being seen across the board. Come no work the meeting the necessary amount of money increase just two live in a city, so Thankfully there is this entity, that is fighting back or on behalf of the party members, just it stinks today. did not. Everybody has something like that: yeah yeah good point and this this is interesting to see this map, because model studies have found that, if minimum wage, did rise in step with productivity for the past few decades. Nineteen sixty eight, the minimum wage, would be over twenty Four dollars rule twenty five dollars today, it is, has it

It hasn't. Risen wages have in a very real way, stagnated and we want to give before reopen the conversation. Wanna give a shout out too one person we can mention by name Agamemnon. Your name is also thank you for right. in Agammemnon is a retired. I oughta six, nine five production, sound mixer worked for almost fifty years in the industry also wanted to bring the US doing strike too. Our attention and, more importantly, fellow conspiracy, real, is to your attention before Agamemnon spark says that the strike is on the way, because the striped became a possibility because that production group, a M p p, was stonewalling. Ignoring the request of eye at sea, and this ultimately, like you, said that this is

These kinds of organizations, arse explicitly designed to do to give collective bargaining power to give voice to people who are often voiceless or ignored with that in mind. I suggest that we talk just a little bit more about what exactly Lee is going on with the way I see what the what the future of this will be. What the context should be, then as you said, yes, we do a lot of people who work in products. In one capacity or another. You know these are in fact in land up. It would be a positive this somewhat unusual, not to know at least tangentially a couple of people and The big question here is: what does this mean for

the future again, we are operating under what more stuffy folks MIKE all information asymmetry, which means right now, if you listening to this, when it comes out you know some things that we do not know. Yet. You probably know how the vote went. Are there not a strike did come to pass probably know whatever new volleys of the information war on social media were made in the intervening time between when we recorded this when we published it, but one thing: we can say for certain is that even if faced does not come to pass. These situation appears largely unsustainable, sustainable and I think we can forget what able situation people were already put in wine production down during the pandemic. Right, I'm getting Having absolutely no work well

makes sense, then that they're digging their heels in you know well on one out of one side of their mouths are expressing solidarity. You know with there. Making people that make the magic happen and all that and so happy they were all back to work. You were thinking of were thinking of you and all of this and have done everything we can to make it safe for you too, back to work but on the other side of their mouth. There absolutely capitalizing on the fact that a lot of people like will at least I have a job at least we're back to work any. If you don't that in the by right away, dashes can becomes square forever. You now there's! No, about it I mean the equivalent of love, but maybe not giving certain benefits back at the pandemic, its orders were were in the same boat as you, you know, production was slowed and all of that we were waiting to see with when things come back to normal, but I mean things are pretty much at normal, at least in terms of like production and in new content, and we know nobody's gonna, stop

can so why not just sorted out all out everyone's like on the same page, but did I'm saying this, but just to look at both sides. Do you think there's any validity. To this notion that while the grocer still way down- and you know, fewer movies are going to be coming out and everything is now streaming first, as opposed to like a week when we could depend on big opening weekends. Will it now constitutes a big opening weekend after covert is far far far less then what would have constituted a successful opening weaken before covert any of these problems have been brewing way before but Anders wondering, if maybe the timing has something to do with the covered in it. There is somewhere to meet in the middle between the two parties, yeah This leads to one of the smaller closing points I wanted to make it right now is the situation stands? I you are correct. and I'm not the.

Production side of this. Their their argument from the alliance motion picture in television producers is that the we're all industry is still very much recovery from cove. It also, they also state that the aid offered by the union a plan for better wages, longer rest periods and more funding for pension and health plans, but the thing is people like me communications director for variety Jonah, slower. Speaking with in PR. Don't agree that M p p ever did that the thing is you you know you could say: oh there's some sort of like an exaggeration or emotional manipulation, but, yes, the truth of the matter is before being overworked and they are driving in danger. conditions, those are not fictitious stories. It's not like that

Helen Knowlton, testimony that led to the Gulf WAR. This is a story about things had actually happened when I walk down the street to throw that shape, but I hope it land and what more thing in your were going long on this, but it is really important to a lot of people who have asked us to share the story. Our own, Who named dark holiday, has pointed out freely the issue was to learn more wants to take action for oil. Learn more, do check out the Instagram page. I a underscore stories as created by industry. Lighting technician named been got leap you can need a lot of accounts. Of the of the consequences, this situation, but this is what I point out to you can do more than just cancel a stream in service. You would like for the duchess his suggestion. There is also a petition. Making the rounds. All you have to do is, I think it is

bull as just searching your internet browser choice for I see petition. Eighty as I and you don't have to be in the union to sign this petition. Let's just public show support out of court As we mentioned in our earlier strange news this week there is, there is in question regarding the actual effectiveness emissions. No, I think it was you raise the point when Matt was telling us a little bit about proposed deep, the mining areas remain to be cynical by the. I appreciate these Jerry, the blouse folks to express, but I just done other ever seen. Petition alone cause. You know a giant powerful entity to to make change unless it benefit them Ray and their there. We see it. Of course, there's still questions about petitions. The use of petitions itself may be an interesting twist for a future,

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The interesting question that I never really pondered before why on earth were any unidentified aerial phenomena have lights? What is the purpose of a lot for a space fearing craft that can perhaps travel across galaxies. Why would they need the actual visible spectrum lights on their craft for landing, Sarah in aeroplanes, knew them please. I need to see a uniform. stability from other craft or be now to communicate. It's like how wearing the mask is supposed to protect other people from an impartial, not protect EU God. You only. I see that the point took me down was that will if this craft has sufficient technology to traverse those vast distances? Wouldn't they, have some kind of technical G to detect when there are other things in range of them, where exactly and

based those things are where it in relation to our planet? Let's That is going to land on or any other body like. Why, You need to project out with a visible speck. light where you are and to be able to see where your landing. I'll give the immense and corrupt hello, the I guess, s place to start with that. That would be the idea of extra lights on human made spacecraft right I mean it's, not It is clearly not a fair comparison, because any any extra terrestrial manufactured or alter dimensional wanna get fun with it manufacture, your craft would bubbly have something to your point: that's far superior to the detection capabilities conventional lights, a case of of human beings the law

aids are needed too. I first identify vehicle right, but also to identify possible crevices on the craft. People still need lights if they're doing Aviate repairs or something like that, you would need lights. If you wanna get a slick photo up. It said because people, just unfortunately, art super impressed with graphs of art that is invisible to the human eye. It is also agree question, because you know I thought of this year, ago and I care member if we ever talked about it, but let's say You have one of the crime. That science fiction writers have dreamed about for centuries a craft they can go further, stir than the speed of light. It's not it's not a little like God, wrinkle in time kind of teleportation is doing an event horizon drop into a black hole kind of deal. It's just going

faster than light, then wooden equivalent the Spaceboat equivalent of Had lights be useless, please you're going faster than the light they produce. my only turn on have no like stop here. None imagine if, if there's anything that term, will that movie was arrival? Did it this goes to show that we have no frame of reference for like what any ailing species, how they communicate, how they perceive the world. You know we base. We think around perception of the visible light spectrum, unlike perceiving objects with our eyes, who knows that's even the way their physiology works. You know it could all be with some form of the year with any number of other ways like visible light. You know, isn't necessarily something that's likes that universal it is. but our planet, but who the hell knows what's going on anywhere else. So it's a good point. I ever get injured

to think about Ray. I think so. What I'm saying like The idea that I think we are basing everything around our equipment you now as human beings. There could be others that maybe there's all another kind of perception that we are not even aware of in the same way that we might not have any grass of the kinds of technologies that we're talking about. You know this is always what comes up old. Hold on? Are you telling me and all the people seemed to show the humans have a tendency to be done. steely self centered You switched what, if you wanted describe that with it. If you want to put a tie on that concept, so what you can take it with you to fancy dinner parties just start using the phrase anthropocentric and through direct as over here, I know why you're a net Thank you. To say something: yes I am going to say something.

Because a little spark happened where I was thinking about this and I've got. answer for you why there are lights on you, a peace that we snap Here again I ll go. We talked others holding the other. The other thing that weaken can Italian after this and compare these two years that if it's a supersede let's say, stealth aircraft of some kind, that's being tested. Why on earth? Would they not disable the light. Why would Lockheed and skunk works, not disable the lights when its functioning right, you at least over a certain part of the: U S, wherever its functioning just to maintain that cover of darkness. Lack of light on the other thing is, though, what if it's bio, luminescence, ah nice, now here's why? I think it's interesting, we just talk. I'll drilling just how in the abyss airline deep the oceans? Now we talk, about how they are so many similarities between that realm

realm in space right. They do so the problem of a lack of you know oxygen or any other substance, that a biological creature could, breathe, at least to our knowledge, to our understanding lines in the epistle plain abide. Luminescence get either so many reasons to have it then, and not only for me, occasion being able to see that this was everything you need as creature in the bottom of the sea. You can achieve a tonne but through by a luminescence including, it includes all yeah and recently a slight very recently. I think the news just shit today, in fact I south stern pocket go first here in Georgia, turn out to be by a luminous. It there's a lot more Qaeda and no one knows no one knows, while out of poverty is elegant, Tommy

archie. I do I gazed with a lot. It once said answer: yes, there are things, go party gophers and they glow, and no one knows why in South Georgia and a couple of other states no connection with extraterrestrials. By this I mean the point about Bio, luminescence man. That's the Mai, speculation was gonna, be something like, maybe the light is a side effect of water. Power source is moving. Their fate and those two answers, may not be you know. Mutually exclusive right could be moved by luminescence and a power source or pocket gophers Adena I, like you, guys, like I'm, taking the signal. If it was pocket badgers, you would be so much better. It will be so much so much more on brand, also find squirrels, while about some platypus is are apparently by a luminous who might cash? Was

that's incredible eyes and that also obviously were look words. the thought x ray we're speculating here, church we it's it's a fun thing too. You, but it's also a way to expand the way we look these things right? So perhaps something out there glow in up cause, it does it naturally and it's a living being or aluys other been Perhaps this just in perhaps it is in effect of whatever the power sources whenever Energy source exists there, or maybe there are no extraterrestrial craft up there, but it feels less and less likely every day when more more weird stuff is happening. I don't know. Logistics about the en masse appreciate, you said he is a voicemail. I do apologise. You there's a small part given that I can make out until it whenever occurs in their there some errors. So thank you very much. Oh yeah, Thank you and also first of any man is typically a friend of the show.

we're very pro Matt here. Also a just one, keep on this for one moment I know, is such a terrible days to correct myself when I was taking on Bio. fluorescence, so their bio fluorescent animals and one unnamed scientists recent article that release today referred to in the pocket gopher as get this a quote: only belligerent sausage let's go the aliens are on that live, that's really watch these homey, belligerent sausages or keep getting into these metal things in driving the long painted lines. It's very strange, the guidance cover this J T pin p n n e apologies of Miss pronounce your name, sir? I said that the always described pocket gophers as both really angry russet potatoes. So again, I hope the aliens are cool. It's

The question is why why would you have It is the euro. your point about Andrew Centralism, it- what We perceive as lights if we're taking truly alien civilization Wade almost certainly not be The same reason right like them, They can have eyes, he need eyes for cans, maybe we're to them. where we're going, we won't need eyes or hair. Was our roads were hands or has undertaken a good sir we're taking the gophers with us? Why? Why do I hate those a quick one? I just wanted to have a conversation with you guys, if you have thought specifically on why you AP phenomena is almost always light based, not always, but very often a light based experience. Write to us

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trusting topics to the table and it gets my old gray blob workin, I guess, is referring to his brain, never urges the old gray blob, but that is charming and I love it. I will use that from now. On the other day, over a dinner with friends, the discussion regarding conspiracies involving stuff like dental and car care came up, for example, possible scenarios of a dentist intentionally, maybe drilling. A bit too much to make you come back again anyway, So in short, we started to talk about bad, cite the possibilities to train your site back to health, it got bad enough. Glasses really are good for you, or is it all part of a bigger thing? In Sweden, for example, the opticians have a subscription programme where you re your glasses for a monthly fee, indirect three pairs at least and also stuff like payments and check ups are included. This is shown to be very lucrative for the companies and much less so for the consumer is thus since Sweden, that any awesome Joe keep up the good work sincerely yours, the guy on the couch. Yes, the guy on the couch

it was killer with these nicknames that's good, that's good ones and then to e g o t see teaching at each tissue dizzy outcomes and sends us a couple of links and surprise. Surprise. Our old pals love exotic, several of these articles, we may talk about dutiful episode on this, so I thought maybe We could do a little bit of a primer, how Alice or Alexander because they re used to companies and analysis boy exotic for about twenty four billion dollars by the way malice or was a french company. That's been announces the eighteen hundreds and is buying up companies as theirs. They caused us what was legacy companies that has the benefit of you no time and and generational wealth, they take the long view Lindsey, drafters, spy glass eye target pearl vision. What else? What else re bad

but let me add to it: Oakley not only actually Ben you now that not only those have they bought up over time, also even like optical insurance companies, so they really do have what one might consider a pretty significant when I was here: let's go through a few more these, yet we ve got price They then make them for rather than our own. All of these were they make glasses frames for Prada Chanel dolls, Gabon oversaw Itchy, Burberry Ralph Lauren Tiffany, Bulgaria, vulgar, parasol code. decay and why and some of these companies they all of them they just manufacture for lens grafter. They own oakley there. I believe, re ban. They definitely on sunglasses they own target article provision, Sears Optical, etc also at sea. They control, apparently around eighty percent of the major

and in the whole world, it's in the industry at large- and this is an article from Forbes from a will, always back from from twenty fourteen absence, deafening changing to dismount data. We will do, and the full episodes around twenty fourteen. They controlled something in the neighborhood Eighty per cent of the major brands, and at that time the eye glass industry was worth around twenty eight billion dollars is another really cool article. The more recent that came from vocs where a couple a former lens grafter executives, walk why it is that a pair of glasses can get marked up. by nearly one thousand percent, meaning that you pay for the privilege of having these glasses, insanely more than what it costs to make them, which is now how business works by it?

when your choices are so limited than it starts to feel a little. When a weird There certainly are disruptors. This model, like war, be Parker and leaves any obstacle is really popular one, so you don't have to pay these braces the genuine saying that the kind of monopoly that this appears to be, as is completely disrupt, but if you want to have those those dull chain, Gabon frames of those ribands, you know you're gonna, you're, gonna pay significantly more than you would for a pair glasses for more be Parker, leaving for like in the neighbourhood of like thirty or fifty bucks. A lot of this has to do with the fact that law exotic is able to kind of set the pricing and the price floor for eyeglasses, because they own so many and in our control. So much of the means of production for even companies that they don't own and there is a really cool, little graphic that Canada spell this out on this. For us

a call and refers to the way that the government does limit price to kind of match was called marginal cost, but they We are able to set the price floor like just just close enough to meet that government regulation and engage in his Forbes article around twenty. Forty, it's a great article put. I think we all agree there. Is this graph that sort of trying to describe how? their able to set these prices is price margins and how governments, you know, regulation figures into that. Looks more like a cross section of a mountain. In a geological survey or something than it does linear, readable graph Thea I'm senior illusory liner, somewhere there, the bear yeah, it's a roar, shack level. A reminds me a little bit. We know a lot of solid work went into this, but just visually reminds me a little bit of those PS ease where they would dose

fighters with different types of drugs, and this he reckoned a website made. You know this link this scatter, the spider on a couple days. drugs vibe little bit family, circus man, going around in murmured? The comic strip where they would just have one panel is whether kids from fail. Circus is walking around the neighbourhood Scott that, but with the argument here, What I believe they're saying here is that it's really com on the relationship between a monopoly and governor regulation of a monopoly. So there are government regulated monopolies. Just like I come back maple syrup gang that that's a cartoon to the maple syrup gang they get an apple dumplings, Beverly, Thou yeah! That's why that's? Why borderline the maple syrup thing you time I was borderline like a cartel right, get being called it's been called cartels

I can only agree- and this is a complex issue and there's a lot of interesting history that I think were absolutely gonna. Keep us a shorter one. Lion our dough, dal, vetch, yo it. This isn't the time of this article back in twenty fourteen was the You know living air to this law exotic up fortune and this whole company, and these the guy that found lens rafters and there's a really great article that I need to finish. Reading all of in the guardian call the spectacular power of big lands, how one giant come will dominate the with the way the whole world sees, and that is from just a couple of years ago. So I think that would be a great resource for the full episode, but there's a pretty incredible couple of sentences. I just wanted to point out before we close for the day shelf do the door? The museum? I spotted a man who sees far an official exam,

go by of Dell that year, which was published ninety ninety one, I expected the optical world to be genteel and police. It was taken aback whenever conversation is turned to the personal charisma and menace of delve each year that virtually rather he's the godfather said deem Butler. founded lens crackers in Nigeria. Three does that you bought it in Nigeria. Five sees me, I am a spoke earlier. He bought lens grafter in any viruses that they bought all these other property. So we ve been talking about Here's, the kicker the godfather to me is the guy. He runs it honestly, he kind rules by fear very few up to and would even mention Del that she has name lending him a voldemort like aura for fear of offending him. However, likely that might be. One talked about getting horses head in the bed and concluded our you by saying you caught me, it sounds like I am sucking delved Chios, who

So who is like leave that last part into rights, make sure like yeah, ok, all this to say. I want to know more about the dove, that's your character and the history of the family that lead to essential now sunglasses eyeglasses cartel, or they own you're, right ban at this particular type of resin. They used to make these glasses That is why it is like they own the the patent on it with supporting particular type of resin. So let's do it. This is like their fascinating stuff in here, and I want to read this biography too, because again, it's the official biography by the way which probably going to pay him in a very positive light. Did you see official response at the end of that Forbes article saying that idea Well, we love what you're saying here we get a yet we are some awesome stuff. We make a lot of many things, but we only me

factual around ten percent of all the eyeglasses sold last year, so you know we're not quite a monopoly and it's true, but if you go to a glasses store to get your eyes checked there all up in their area. So, let's therefore, today, thank you, the tea g, o C, the guy. GEO Tc or the guy on the couch for issuing us these links, and we are going to explore this in depth and an upcoming so in the meantime, if you want to take a cue from the guy on the couch, and who is tat, we have today, as we also had the duchess of shoulder fade, had one course. I'm gonna shoulder faith. my plan is then the mythological version mad if a rattlesnake. Yet take you from all of them. Your fellow conspiracy realists. You can find us the internet, we are in

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