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today on something you should know, it's not polite or even proper, to swear, but there are some situations when it is actually just the right thing to do. Then, when you look at great sports teams or business teams, there is one and only one key to success. I feel like a lot of people. It was superstar talent, great coaching, but their winning streak corresponded precisely of the arrival and departure of one player. Then there's a big difference between reading a book on an ereader and reading a real book, and Nothing against Martha Stewart, but this whole idea of the perfect home is taken yet all the media bombard image of the supermarkets baby in one hand, dressed impeccably at our parties, are the best and is unrealistic.

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corona virus thing started, and obviously there are a lot of sports podcast that are really hurting, because it's hard to do a sports podcast if there aren't any sports to podcast about but overall podcast listening is down, and I suspect it's His people's routines change we're not going to work. way we used to were not doing what we used to do But, interestingly, we haven't really experience much of a drop we did see. We did see a little dip when stay at home, orders really kicked in but that listeners ship has come back up again. So thanks for, Continuing to listen and rest assured, more great episodes are on the way first up today. The benefits of swearing I try not to swear too much, but Sometimes words slip out. And other times. It seems appropriate, particularly when I'm in pain

actually the next time you smash your finger with a hammer, stub your toe or or do something else painful it be just fine to let loose with a few expletive. It seems that swearing can actually help relieve pain in the snow, Participants were asked to put their non dominant hand in ice, cold, water, half of the people told to repeatedly uses swear word. While the other half were told to use non swear words. Those who swore were able to keep their hand in the water for seventy eight point eight seconds those people who did not swear but instead Said neutral words: were only able to keep their hand in the cold water for forty five point. Seven seconds so, though, People who swore were actually able to withstand the pain almost twice as long one fear is that swearing stimulates the fight or flight response and that call

the changes in the body like increased heart rate and tensed muscles, but another part of the fight or flight response is to die. Pain or not theory is that swearing increases levels of emotion which accord The animal studies suggest that, that in turn, can reduce the sensation of pain, but however, the reason swearing seems to help pain and that something you should know. Seldom, if ever is success, a solo event Sesar is usually the result of people helping other people, in teams, and so teams clearly perform better than others, in fact, a phenomenon that you see in sports teams, where one team will dominate sport for several consecutive years, we ve seen these dynasties these multiple year, streaks in base.

All basketball, football hockey, volleyball soccer all across the world? So causes this phenomenon. What what allows a team to dominate year after a year, is it the manager superstar, players or just lock and key you transfer. This phenomenon from sports business and organizations, it turns out. Yes, you can, but it's important understand. First, this phenomenon works in sports and too splain. It is sam walker, SAM, has been with the wall street journal for about twenty years as an editor and sports columnist, and he is taken this really deep look into what makes great teams so great what allows them to dominate their respective sport year, after year, he's author of a book called the captain class, the hidden force that

creates the world's greatest teams welcome sam I think everybody is familiar with this phenomenon of how certain teams will dominate sport for several years in a row, but what? What You want a what You wanted to write about this when I started in the most basic place, which was I just wanted to to do a quick study of what are the great? if in sports history- and I thought I would you- get them and see what they hadn't common. You don't I thought the column. eternal. I just thought a quick call. I a couple weeks saying this thing out and then, when I started trying to do the first part of it to evaluate value. Are the greatest came to the sport history? I realize it was just a big job

it turned into a rabbit hole that I just got lost in, and you know in the end, you know I didn't have a book about great teams. I had a book about leadership and it wasn't a column in the journal. It was a book you know, and that was twelve years ago now in the book If may so. This has been kind of a labour of passion for a law. Time all your background in sports, in writing in sports and all who Your opinion. What are the? What are the untouchables one of the best? means in your view, I I did what I wanted to do. The work was to look at things that had gained at once in a while, I this period of time, and I had done something in terms of wins or titles and rapid succession that no other team had ever done in the history of sport. So my goal was really to study teams that had built winning cultures then endured. So there are a lot of great teams made.

then came the one one title or to tat of an eye. Can twenty seven yankees eighty five bear ninety six chicago bulls, a lotta great? Can you could say that, both by the best thing that ever played the game, during the season, but I'm interested are the one had just did not lose an The pantheon for me came down a sixteen times that I studied some of them that you might remember the boston, celtic a credible team from the late nineteenth fifty them into the nineteen sixty right through the sixties, one eleven title in thirteen years and that the longest hidell streak in the history of sports and I think they're pretty much at the top of any of these less. What's the matter, using about that time. Not only did they win them, any titles, but they played in hand game seven during the play off and the record in those games with panel.

so I just did not lose when they had to win, and you know there were some that I'd never heard of, and one of them is one of my favorites is the cuban way the volleyball team from nineteen. Ninety to two thousand- I did not remember them, I didn't know anything about them and it turns out. They are absolutely the best olympic team of all time. So that was what I was after, but but just Quick shopping list form run down some of the other teams on that list. Right. Well, the: u S or the: u s: teams, the pittsburgh steelers of the seventies, who won four super bowl six years, which is the record with the motto canadian who, in the nineteen fifty one high straight stanley cup. The new york yankees team, but not the one. You would think it's the forty nine of fifty three team that won the world series five times in a row, they're a bunch of soccer teams that brazilians from nineteen fifty eight nineteen,

sixty two who won back to back world cups are on the list and okay. So so the big question, then, is: what is it about those? Do? They have something in common or some things in common. They do. I mean they only have one thing in common, and that was that was surprising, but The real surprise was what it was. I, like a lot of people, it was superstar. Tellin, you know was great It was incredible strategy, tactics outfit a lot of money in a lot of resources in those are the things I initially It would be, but really there was only one thing that bound all these came through time and hidden matter where came from or what support they play. The winning history corresponded precise and, in some cases, within two weeks of the arrival and departure of one player and a player in every single case was the cap there, the pain, the leader of the team- and I realize what I thought I pattern emerge and and also thought emerging

teams that would just bear I missed making that final cut. I realized I was onto something and something I never imagined. That is the captain, it's about internal leadership and how teams are led from the player perspective and that the first revelation, but that was not the uprising begging the end. The most surprising thing was that these captains were all very similar and not only with a similar, but they had their crate and their characteristics will completely the opposite of what I would have expected. How so well they warrant superstar. For the first, the shocking thing. I thought that these people would tend to be the best players in our team to absolutely warrant some of the more most of them were roleplayers. They were water carriers or people who did the unglamorous grunt work.

A behind the scenes, and in many cases you may know the team very well and not even know who the captain is. I saw that over and over again and they also weren't charismatic. I would have thought they would have been. You know these these people with a presence. an aura that could motivate their team. big speeches and their personalities they required and humble they did not like attention. They didn't want Did your recognition at all they hated individual accolades and really resisted them and like preferred to stay in the shadows and lead from the back. the other thing that was shocking to they didn't give speeches and they didn't they weren't sort of outfront, but they had a really fast in any way of communicating with their teammates. It was very low, key democratic style or they can have a comfortable approaching everyone and they would talk to their key nathan.

in short, bursts about the matter at hand and- and they didn't really believe that they had to give speeches in order to motivate people, but they were hard to manage, and that was another thing that I didn't expect yeah they they were, they would push back when they felt that any the couch anyone doing anything. It was getting in the way the tame winning and it could be very How to handle? You know they also push the rules, absolute limits, sometimes lemonade and within on the field during the game? They would do anything they had. They thought they could get away with in order to win, and sometimes they would, they would cross the boundaries off the field or they were quiet law abiding, never gone trouble do. Do you find out or talk to, or have a sense of that any of these guys or women knew what they were doing, that that they knew that they were. Special in some way or not

they would never tell you that. In fact, you know it's very hard to interview these people are hard to track some of them down because if they don't like attention, they don't want to talk about it, but yeah they knew on some level. It was very intuitive for most of them. I mean they weren't scientific about it, but I think they all understood intuitively, that their relentlessness and their humility and their approach to the game. In there These are focused on the goals of the team above everything else, including their own include their own feelings in their own emotions in their own plank on everything that sort of focused, I think they understood that, by cut of lowering themselves in relation to the came in many ways, they were able to raise everyone else's performance and their courageous. I mean they had incredible emotional control and emotional maturity, and I think they were solitary people in a way and they were not. There

I think they understood that you know to them, really all their satisfaction to all their satisfaction came from the team, your list to SAM walker. He is an editor and column. With the wall street journal he's been. Therefore, Twenty years or so and he's author of the book, the captain class, the hidden force, it creates the world's greatest teams at fedex office. We know running a business is america marathon, but sometimes every task feels like a sprint designed the product. Catalog pick up the new boxes, print the business cards notarize the lease put up, twenty more yard signs, it's a long. Luckily, for you, fedex office is here to help turn your ideas into reality. You can stop running yourself, encircled and concentrating on the important things like the deciding what

luck visit your nearest location or office thought fedex dot com to get started fedex office. Are you currently enjoying the show on the stitched up, then you need to know. Sticker is going away on august, twenty nine yup going away as in conflict, guy's, dead, rest in peace dinner and thanks for fifteen years of service to the pod cast community, so switch to another pine cast out then follow they show their apple. spotify or wherever you listen. sam, it's a little surprising to here in your discussion. No, mention of coaches, because You know you really think of football in basketball and in baseball. There are legendary coaches who are given a lot of courage. for the success of their team there. You don't maybe think they deserve

looking at at great coaches, and I looked at vince, lombardi and out ferguson and bill belichick and gregg popovich. All these, you know famous coaches and what I realized was what was going on the only thing that I found and also what happened with the legendary couches is that they reach their pinnacle of success in every case when they had a cap and chiefs like this working with them. And what I found was that yes, coaches absolutely matter, but not in the way. We think we think of coaches as being these people, who are primarily responsible for the performance of the team, but what I've found in all those cases that it was a partnership. It was a true partnership. If you look at TIM Duncan and gregg popovich or Tom Brady, and bill belichick, or Alex ferguson and Roy keane those moments when those teams were dominant. There was a partnership, an ea dullness, of a peer level, partnership going on but

in the couch and the captain and the captain had the economy too, be an intermediary between the players in the coach and to make independent decisions. Sometimes they did things a coat. You didn't alike and they sometimes had a very contentious relationships in the argued with each other, but was the model and I think the most important assume that a coach maker, I don't think most people would think this, but I think the most I implore the finishing their cabinets and ask me someone that they trust someone a day can really he often appear, but when you think of great coaches, you think of coaches that have kind of an iron fist that that really if command of their team, but in these The reason they were so good was because they were able to back away and you're out. Ferguson said something really, It was to me about this. He said that you know every

I think he did off the field to make sure the team will be successful and that it had the resources it needed. He said he stopped at the edge of the pitch when when the match started- and he said at that point, It was up to the team captain tat like so Is there reason to believe that this same model works off the sports field It works in an organization in an office in school. absolutely no definitely. I know it is it's a little different. Obviously, you know a sports is a kind of pure laboratory for competition, because there's an opponent and a clock and has a lot of pressure and as a final score at the end, but all teams teams are teens in any sense and if they're doing something together and trying to coordinate their efforts, sorta a difficult goal. This is the thing that we're getting and I is over and over again

a lot of there's a lot of emphasis on startup culture now and then in others. This idea that management structures should be flatter and that the people to the top of the chain- and Employees should should have a more open line of communication and what they're doing as they're, squeezing out middle management in the same thing's happening in sports, where captaincy sort of falling out of vogue. It's this idea that the the stars and the founders and the like it is it is a partnership that matters but it happened. the case- and you see over and over again it's not when a company is on a growth curve and we keep emulating these companies that are just incredible trajectories just up and up and up when you see these people and when you see them rise up and save these organizations and say these tanned when things start to go bad and that's when people in the middle, whose goals are to support the pain or the organisation that when they matter the mouse, because

when they are in a position to do something and to make adjustments and to hold the line against bad things happen. and that twenty cabins always stood up later when they were winning and there are no winning streak- was one thing started to deteriorate and it can you look a lot of companies that have no nothing but grove and have flat structures the minute something goes wrong. Stars, bail and the executive council, and in your confidence wanes ass to restart the panic, and they don't have that strong middle layer of people. I call them alpha beta people in the middle who are just absolutely devoted to the team and not to themselves and not to their own advancement It's a middle layer that pays you with a safety net and keep you from failing as an organization, but in an organization like em business, that middle Person is who is he a fellow employees? Is he a mid level mandate who isn't it? I think I hear a brilliant

in company. I think you're talking about division added. You know, I think, if you're at a smaller company, you're, probably talking about the project manager, who leads a team, you know it's someone usually who's in a kind of in the production management, side of Working with a group I mean I've talked to some people who run factories and they say that they have shift leads and people who are responsible for making sure that everything runs smoothly. You know, while their team is, is out there on the machines and it's that it's that level, it's not the ceo, it's not their immediate. level executives around them. It is the people and that next player, so I won if you too, some of these captains and put them with other team made the captain of a team that isn't a winning team would that team

start winning more. I think there would be a positive fact. Definitely you know. Look I think the thing while great teams is that it takes so many things I mean, every team needs five or six. It's like it's like pulling a slot machine and getting triple sevens or something when you need a lot of things to go your way, but my reason it says one thing emphatically, which is if you want to have an enduring culture. If you want to continue to win over a long period of time to continue to maintain your success, you absolutely have to have somebody like this and, if you, if you don't you're not going to, in your success now not saying you can you insert tell em like this and to attain they'll be successful, but there is actually no way that you can expect to stay in actual

it's unless you have one of these people, so do these guys do these guys have a tenure like they they they stopped being effective after five years or three years or or happened. I studied you know most of them, or I mean is truly remarkable. I mean you know. Bill Russell is a great example. With the celtics I mean you know his rookie season and fifty seven when they won their first ever title and they won their last of that great streak. The eleventh title in his final season and then after that they they you know, didn't make the playoffs the first time in forever, and honed yeah. No, I most of them its absolute something that goes through their entire career and and and and when they leave and those into those team captains go on to greater. What what I'm thinking about my met, my memory may be wrong cause. I was pretty young at the time but yogi, but

it was where he was a team captain right at the yankees. Well, he was they didn't he's the only one he's on my list, but yeah the only they were, the only team that I should never named a captain during his tenure, but he was the leader, but when he became the manager it didn't go so well. You know the management record. These guys are not terrific, and that was one of the things that strengthen my my belief in this partnership with the manager, because I think that either you need different personality type to make that marriage work and I think, a lot of cases they they had some success here and there as managers, but for the most part, is really captains were not great managers, and I it. I remember this theory. The about yogi bearer. Was that that you know it. It was one thing for him to to nudge his teammates as appear, but when he became their boss, The relationship changed and that's why I didn't work

Actually, I am, and I think that the speaker is that these captains understood that, because they were peer, they were out his peers, ashley lowered them how and when they did, unglamorous. Well, the grunt work and we're completely committed to the team, and it's different when appear as doing that, because it allows the superstars to shine and to take the credit and to to to to get the attention and it creates a really positive, dynamic inside a locker room and you're right. I think when the sport, when these people are authority, figures- and they can't help that, I think it's all different and I think the nudging becomes your boss telling you to do something as opposed to you know a teammate who you trust and believe in who has your back okay. So what is it you want people to take from this in a in a nutshell. What is what is the point of all of this? We got leadership wrong and it is

Your problem and it's not a sport, is a fine example, but I think it applies to many walk of life. We don't understand what leadership as and when we go looking for leaders that we have the feeling that they should be obvious. They should be how they care is madness, look feel like leaders, but My research shows that the disease of leadership, the seven traits that I came up with at the cap and shared they're all about behavior has nothing to do with god, given ability or charisma or anything that special or extraordinary it is with the choices you make every day day.

in day out it's the approach you take to winning and your motivation for everything you do and it's about behavior it's something that can be taught it's something that can be emulated. I don't think everyone can be an elite leader, but all of us can get better at it and here's the thing there's so many people out there the potential to lead. We don't even see them because we're not looking for them because they're not shiny and obvious, but they're there and we're if we start looking for different things and looking for different characteristics and understanding what leadership really great leaders really do in a team setting, then I think we can start to identify these people who are being forgotten and and passed over, for people who really don't have the teams best interests at heart, and I, Finally, we can all learn from adding. The empowering message here is that its behaviour that is what we do and who we are, how much? How will that some really good?

insight into leadership that I've never heard quite discuss. That way. My guests has been sam walker. He is an editor and he's columnists he's been the wall street journal for for a four time and his book is called the. Didn't class the hidden force that creates the world's greatest teams. There is linked to a book in the show notes for this episode of the pod cast. And and and thanks thanks him thanks my The real pleasure appreciate Martha stewart released did something me she has become the poster child for having the neat, perfect home and cooking. Things just so when decorating in that certain special way and she has many followers, but not everyone is on board with that perfect hole lifestyle, one of those but is LISA Quinn. Lisa is an emmy award, winning tv host she's

of the show home with LISA quinn, which is seen, I'm alive well network and she's. Also, author of a book called life's too short to fool, fitted sheets welcome lisa. So you were a self describe Martha. Stewart impersonator hoop probably folded fitted sheets and now you're, not folding, fitted cheats, youths held against that to some degree, so did. Did you have epiphany moment. My epiphany and when we have to actually won briefly was when I was watching Martha stewart on holiday show she was crafting a kramer. reed she literally sewed. I think three, five hundred cranberries to this base that she'd made from moss and chicken where it was. The full and normally I would have just you know, sprinted the costs go to get my own bag of cranberries to do, but I just looked at her age. Is this moment when I thought this is crazy? Who can

do that- and I also had enough of an event when I was having a party that was really out of my control at invited to many people, and it was with too much work and, as I was getting ready for the guests to come, I noticed a small smudge on my bathroom air, and I I tried to ignore it and then I kept walking back on you now. Martha would get that much. I want everything to be perfect, so, but ten fifteen minutes before the guests were to arrive. I stood on my account her to get this much oftener and fell and broke my cup and I laid there on the floor in tears. It was so incredibly painful looked up, and I realise that only made this much worse and I felt something burning, and that was my moment. Why have I ended up as this is not what I wanted to base of I've taken it down a lotta notches. Since then,

I bet Martha Stewart herself didn't so those thirty five hundred cranberries. I am certainly and I think that allow of women and in myself included, take her very truly and it's you know, he's got isn't she is a beautiful I and in great attention to detail, but it is not realistic for for our lives and ineffective, martha, I take it out on her in I don't I don't necessarily mean too, but there's this whole the media bombards us with this image of the super mom with with a baby in one hand and a frying pan full of money on the other hand, and she dressed impeccably? Inner parties are the best and it's just unrealistic in my home to sort of rail against that. But do you think that people pay attention to Martha as just

spectators to watch her or do you think people really try to become her a lot of women base their self worth on how neat their home is and how? only their parties are and how sheikh they are in it it in their war, work ethic, you know it it there's just too many. the bar set too high on every level in europe, here to lower it honest to god. That is my whole philosophy is to lower I'm your standard than and be happy with it and not think of it. So much as a failure as it is, accepting the fact that You can only do so much and enjoying your life instead of a hot gluing in rio during pantry items. It's it's finding your priority So, if someone is going to start to lower the bar here, I mean where do you? Where do you start? First and foremost is recognizing the problem and when you think about what perfectionism is

and even how it relates to the to the way modeling to your children- you know you're you're, telling me you're, basically telling you kids that you have to blow people away when they come to visit, so that they'll, like you, that perfectly folded, t shirts and clean faces, equals the perfect family that you have to kill yourself to prove to others that you've. You know that you've made it a spotless house is more important than then fun in and maybe even like work is more import, then family. So if you can just he knows how awful it is and how it's kind of poisoning your your life. I think that's the first place to start, and then I think the next step is especially when you're talking domestically in your home.

Is ridding yourself of a lot of your quote. Unquote baggage- and you know clutter- is a huge epidemic in this country. You know, like Annie, has that show hoarders. You know that's an extreme case, but I find a lot of people. We go into homes a lot because we do we do makeovers and we do design on the tv show that I'm on and when we find that clutter is the is the biggest problem. People are constantly moving piles from side to side and and they buy all these little gadgets to make their life easier, but then they're slave to all these piles of stuff. So it's really about streamlining your home and and then, as far as is your decor goes keeping it simple. You know everybody feels like you. Gotta have all these bells and whistles and it's just not really necessary. It's not about impressing people aren't so let let's get specific here, though so companies come

in thirty minutes and you want the house to look presentable. What are the things that really do matter? There are a great when the toilet is the first thing, because, frankly, somebody's going to have to go to the bathroom before and you just can't get away with anything being dirty and there you can't blame it on your kids Next item is clutter and generally, if you're, in a hurry, if they're coming quickly, what you do is you just grab a bag or even a hamper and run around and just pick up the things, that are on all your horizontal services. If you have a lot of junk on your countertops on your mantle on your side tables on your coffee tables, that's what looks really cluttered in bad scoop, those up and at least keep them temporarily in a bag. Box somewhere. You're floors are an area where maybe you can cut some corners, even water,

vacuum cleaner over your hardwood floors and then just pick up some some stickies with a spot mop or get your kids to put on some. You know she spray some cleaner on the floor and get them to put rags on their feet and get them to skate around a little bit, which is which is funny. I guess to the good thing of a delegation, dust is ok. If it's just a light best over everything really you're the only ones going to see that. But if it's thick and you can see where it's been removed by fingerprints, you need to hit that with a feather duster, I say: use a feather duster, especially if you're in a hurry, because it sort of redistributes the dust more than it really gets anything up, and it gives it an even appearance. Obviously, when you have to we'll go back and hid it with oil. The the fridge you can ignore, unless you're having a dinner party for having a dinner party, there's always that moment when, where your guests, as you know it, let me grab that for you a little bit of this,

Organization is fine, but spills and stickiness is not great, but you can just grab one of those wipes the little handy wipes they have now and just scoop some of that up and make it look. Neat mirrors once again are fine too, if they're a little dusty, that's fine, but if they've got smears or splatters, I'm just grab some glass cleaner and a microfiber cloth. It'll take care of that a cobwebs you'd be surprised how many cobwebs you might have in your home, but they they're usually out of sight, but the pictures, wherever you have a light, bulb, that's usually where they tend to to gather. So, if you're having a dinner party, just check the chandelier before you before your guests come and then as far as your bedroom, you know in a perfect world, you'd make your bed and everything would be neat neat and tidy. But if you don't have time for that, just lock the door

if the door and no one will see. Usually the bedroom is off to the side anyway. But a piece of advice is this: never works if you're having people over for the first time, because because they always wanted a tour, so try it is his native possible and then maybe the one of the last things obviously you want to look nice yourself and after all, that speed cleaning you're going to want to freshen up a little bit and then my last tip is, if you know like two minutes before the guests are supposed to arrive. If you can squirt just the little spray cleaner, a non toxic spray, cleaner up in the air right by the front door when they walk in it'll ill smell, like you cleaned, even if you, even if you didn't claims it sort of a perception, is reality Let's talk about some of the housekeeping myths that you mention, one of which is that

the title of your book about folding fitted sheets and, frankly, I've never figured out how to fold fitted sheets I've. Actually I've actually. never done it. I just think that really the impetus for the book was that, like I said I play, I was playing Martha stewart on tv in one of our co worker said: oh, you know you should do a segment about folding fitted sheets, because everybody wants to know that- and I remind you looking at her in theory. we really hope with no added there. My opinion is the The real definition of insanity is holding a finnish the same way over and over again and expecting it to result in anything other than a that a migraine there and a huge turban. You know it to be honest and I've lied about it before. But to be honest, I just sort of watered up and and put it in my closet, and you know when you, when you make a bed any, and you stretch out that fitted sheet all the wrinkles come out anyway. So why bother and a trick to just don't have so much

so many heads of sheet, you know you need to and ones on the bed in the other ones. not being used it's not taking up that much space, so it doesn't have to be some neatly placed it's not you, ve got a linen closet, for what did the sheet is? Get rid of them streamlined? the myth you say in one. I think a lot of people believe is that bleach cleans everything way here really clean anything it It actually does in fact, and it for getting rid of mould, will do in your bathroom, but it did, but it doesn't really clean and also quarrying, bleachers, so bad for the environment. It it's been known, cause health problems, I just try stay away from it. You know it it's a staple. Everybody has the bleak there's a lot of really good chlorine, free, bleachers, there and borax, which is natural in a nice abrasive works great the bathroom in it

ok. This is a myth that I think a lot of people believe that actually has never made sense to me, and that is that newspaper is good for cleaning windows etc in in there was this big effort about in a recycling and trying to reuse things- and I think that's great but newspaper in leaving- smears on your hands and on the mirror and its toxic suited. Then all over your hint. There are so many better ways to recycle paper. These days, just put that in the recycle bin and grab a micro fibre quoth. He can get him anywhere now you can wash them their great, no streets I remember somebody saying you know if newspapers are so good cleaning glass. Why do you never see professional window cleaners using newspaper baggily

actually I think it was a good intention that that one arrived just a desert another one of your myths is that hairspray removes ink from upholstery which, frankly, I actually never heard that one thou with a big waiting for a long time, but it's outdated because back in the day, hairspray had a lot of alcohol in it and it was really the alcohol that got the stain out. So now, if you do have a an ink stain or im upholstery or or even on your clothes tried. Just in a little over the counter. Alcohol on the spot and you'll have a much better chance of getting it out now when I I have heard before that, it's a myth that you should use furniture? Polish, every time you dust, you know how much furniture, polish, it actually

build up a little bit of a waxy coding which will attract more dust. So, although it's great to hit your would pieces with a good polishing oil. Occasionally you know once a month once every three weeks, just little feather dustings or they have this great, swifter dusters. Now little pickup, the dust. That's all you need. What do you say, though, to people I mean there are some people who are just naturally neat and like things perfect, and so who are you to say in a lower your standards? They don't want to lower their standards. I think it's more of that of a step back and looking at your situation. If the if the being super neat and super tidy and insipid organised is making, you feel good then maybe this book is necessarily for you. You know that stop and look and see if it's something

it fills you with value and makes you feel good, that's great, but if you're doing it just to sort of keep up with the joneses and if you're doing it, because you know you want to impress people- or you just feel like I have two and if you feel burdened by it on any level and that's what I'm that's, who I'm talking to I'm talking to the people that are doing it because they feel like they're, lacking something and really what the book saying is: you're crazy, where you are people like you, relax I'll back a little bit What are the one or two things that you noticed her. That people have. Jus that they ve noticed that if they just did this one thing or so doing this other thing really just took the way to the world off their shoulders like, friends and I decided to get a pact together. We would have dinner parties and we would kill ourselves.

to prepare. And finally, we were having lunch in a restaurant one day in it came to our attention that it was much easier just to go out and have lunch, and so, decided when we had our dinner parties that we would all actively take it down a notch and it's amazing, it seems silly in hindsight, but we did. We decided that it doesn't have to be so over the top. We don't have to spend all day, cleaning and cooking and prepping, because we're friends, it's silly and when we all decided to take it down a notch, it was all a collective sigh of relief on all of our part. we had to say it out loud, if somebody has to go first grade. You know it it it's so silly, but it it is kind of scary to have people over and and everything's, not not perfect, especially when you've been behaving like that. For

hong kong yeah, because it it can become part of who you are god it. It becomes part of it. And now, with the thing with me, is I really like this image? I had this sort of never fail ever ready, mom. Am with the you know. I was volunteering at the school and I always had the cupcakes made and, and the thing was it was- I was doing for all the wrong reasons, and I was starting to come apart at the seams- a bid, and in that, when I realized it was, it was out of control kind alone, if you're trying to live up to or be Martha stewart exactly- and I Didn'T- I didn't necessarily wanted to wanted to go down that route. So I decided just relax, which is a good note to end on LISA. Been my guest lisa is the host of home with LISA quinn, the live well network and her boy,

is called life's too short to fold fitted sheets, there's a link to her tv show website and to her book in the show notes for this episode of the pied cast thanks to kindle and other key readers and tablets. Reading real physical books, most seems old fashioned today, but it turn that reading a real book may actually ye be better. Research I found that readers of short mystery story on a kindle worsen. Efficiently worse at remembering the order of events than those who read the same story in a real paperback book seems that the brain reads by constructing a mental representation of the text based on them they spent of the page in the book in the words on the page and all of them It gets lost When you read in a book the tactic

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