Due to the nature of this killers crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode include discussions of murder, sexual assault, child abuse, bestial, lady gun violence and kidnapping consent. this one deciding how and when you listen to get help on meant health and sexual abuse visit spotify dot com. lash resources. The Chris bright mornings and the adirondack mountains often make the poorest feel idyllic, but italy, involvement is too for men walking along its dirt roads back in the summer of nineteen. Seventy three, though they like an ordinary group of hikers. They were actually a grim mission. There friend, Danny and Susan had been missing for days the cruel silent ass. They moved each trying to

their fears as they searched for their friends, Jim king. What few paces ahead of the others his eyes scanning over the landscape. Looking for clues Finally, he saw it at the bottom of a steep embankment beside the road, a sliver of white without attaining Jim clambered down the slope. What the bottom. He looked around disoriented for Well, he wondered if he'd imagined it, then I danny's white shoe but that wasn't hi, I'm gregg pulsing. This is serial killers, spotify original from power cast every monday and third, hey. We dive into the minds of madness of serial killers today were continuing

exploration of robert Guerrero, the buried bodies killer, I'm here with my coat vanessa Richardson high everyone and find, besides of serial killers and all other spotify originals from par cast for free on spotify than the previous one, so we explored gear was lonely childhood and is increasingly savage. Acts of violence and syracuse today, Discuss Guerreros brutal murder spree in the adirondack mountains will also cause nickel guerreros year long plot to escape justice and the dramatic legal saga that followed his capture. We but all that and more coming up stay with us in the summer of nineteen seventy three thirty seven year old, robert gara left behind the idyllic suburban life. He'd worked so hard to build for years. He kept up appearance

with his neighbors children, an parole officer, he'd conseil It is true monstrosity from everyone, but his victims, but now that was all over. He just killed a teenage girl elisa house. He knew that ups already had him on their radar. He had to get out of town and fast so that your he packed up a few belongings and drove north more than one hundred and fifty miles to the vast expanse of adirondack park, a sprawling six million acres stretch of forested mountains. It was a populist spot for tourists and hikers. It was all oh an ideal place to get lost and never be found once he picked a secluded place to set up camp, gara tried to unwind out in the wilderness with only birdsong. In his own thoughts for company, he became more agitated his head was pounding a white hot, pain that worsened every hour than us,

going to take over the psychology here and throughout the episode. Please note. this is not a licence psychologist your psychiatrist, but we have done a lot of research for the show thanks Gregg these headaches date back to the or access guerrero had the previous year, persistent headaches, the most common symptom of a traumatic brain injury and the risk may be increased if a person experiences recurrent head trauma, you'll remember from our past. This episode that, according to guerrero sister there other knocked him unconscious, at least once when he was a boy we already did. Thus the well established risks of childhood brain injuries. It's possible that the car crash aggravated existing damage causing garros debilitating headaches. Several studies indicate a link between severe headaches and hostility. A twenty twenty one case report published I researchers at a turkish university described a patient whose headaches triggered what seemed to be dissociated. Aggression,

while headaches aren't enough to make someone a murderer. They could have made most violent impulses worse over the next two days: pain persisted making it our to sleep or even think straight by July, fourteenth guerrero had been a powder keg, that same morning, twenty three year old, danny porter and his girlfriend twenty one year old susan pats, set off on a camping trip in the adirondacks journey working hard as a political pollster for local election at the time. While Susan was about to begin our final year at Boston university, they were both looking forward to a well deserved break out in the wilderness by In the afternoon. The couple reached a pretty stretch of woodland on the southern side of the mountain range. There was no formal ground in this area of the park and as far as they could tell them nobody else around four miles, but they were wrong. The deed fails of what happened next or sketchy the only what we have is from Guerrero himself

and by his own admission his memory is vague. Here's what hold his lawyers. According to Jim Tracy's book sworn to silence, Guerrero had pulled up to the side of a narrow forest road because his head was killing him. He sat there agony as danny and Susan pulled up behind him. They didn't enough room to pass so danny got out and walked towards the drivers side of garros car, perhaps to see if needed help. The exchange quickly took an ugly turn its unclear, who said what we vote intentions, devolved into conflict, given garros hair trigger temper. It likely didn't take much to push him over the edge at some point, guerrero, exited his car and started scuffling with danny the parent falling into a steepen bank meant that ran alongside the road. In a moment. Or fury guerrero reached for the night he'd concealed inside his jacket and stabbed danny repeatedly

when he was sure danny was dead. Darrow calmly walked back up the slope towards the road. Susan was still sitting in the car. Completely terrified guerrero told that he was taking her hostage, but he had no intention of letting susan go. You drive for about an hour and north towards my fill, a tiny here close to the vermont border. They camp there for two days during gara, repeatedly color susan into having sex with him. On July sixteenth, he said that susan asked if she could go home when he's No, he claimed she grabbed his knife and try to attacking him daryl so banal away and then killed her after his rage subsided, he hid her body inside the air vent of an abandoned mind shaft, where he hoped would go unnoticed. Meanwhile, Two hundred miles away in cambridge massachusetts, danny's friend, pat cadet, was already worrying. It was

monday morning and danny hadn't shown up for work that wasn't like He was reliable, the kind of guy who always called if he was running late, that afternoon call the police and reported as france missing soon after state troopers found the couples abandoned car on the same narrow forest road where they left it. Nothing. About the scene seem suspicious. The car was, and locked, and there were no signs of a struggle near by the police. Dismay pats concerns. They knew a big group lost in university, students run a white rafting trip in the area that weak they figured out. ensues. Susan had decided to join the others, but pat had an army. You feeling teacher knew. Something was wrong, so he gathered a group of friends. And together they drove out to the spot where danny and Susan's car had been found, troy keep their anxiety at bay. The group fan out and started searching the wilderness

actually a young man named Jim king notice, Danny's body lying in the ditch heap Danny's remains up carried them the road and yelled the others for help, but he knew There was nothing to be done. Danny had been dead for days in a cruel twist of fate when the and called the police they initially became suspects. The authorities were suspicious. because Jim had disrupted the crime scene by moving the body, but the group was well connected. Jim worker, senator ted Kennedy, and so I thought he's, turned their attention elsewhere with and still missing, investigators launched statewide search at the time. Gara was still lurking around the vast adirondack park blending in amongst the day hikers at back packers? It must have been an odd feeling winston in prison, his various jobs and his family he'd gotten used having constant company, but in the two weeks after he killed danny and Susan garros spent

or time alone that he had an ears He was reminded of his childhood. The total isolation, he'd felt on the farm, where he'd been left with little supervision It wasn't a happy memory. In fact it fan the flames. Of his rage, even further coming up darrow attempts, a massacre, listen it in honour of may being missing an unidentified persons awareness month, parkhurst is presenting a new collection of captivating stories. You do not want to miss on disappearance Sarah attorney examines the disturbing crimes linked to the highway of tears and the bethesda home for girls plus she welcomes the founders of the black and missing foundation for a special discussion, catchy episode, starting may. Fourth, then,

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Twenty three year old carol, melon ascii, the oldest of the group, shared attend with her fiance nineteen year old dave freeman in another. Ten were Dave's friend eighteen year, old, phil, dumb blueskins and twenty year old, nick Fiorello the next morning fill a nickel woke before sunrise to go fishing, while David Carol slept in when the will awoke around nine a m. They heard footsteps outside their tent. They color his name's, assuming they to return from the fishing trip, but there was Reply instead, even carol watched in horror as the zipper to their tent slowly opened still I've asleep. They wondered if it was a dream darrow on the other side was wide awake. He hadn't slept all night he'd been park near by just out of sight watching the group we,

for this moment at first the couple thought guerrero looked like a park ranger. He was wearing a fedora and had a pair of binoculars around his neck. But then this ah the rifle garral calmly tone them to leave the tent and they obeyed. He claimed run out of gas and needed a site in some from their cars. Then make and fill returned from their fishing trip to find strange seen dave carols paralyzing fear briefly turn to relieve. Now it was for against one, but it seems we're too disoriented and scared to try to overpower arrow who didn't seem at all. He told the group he just wanted their gas. but he had a criminal record and couldn't risk getting caught. So he was de tied them all to trees to make sure they didn't read him out. He marched the four

some into the woods at gunpoint along the way the group tried to defuse the situation telling guerrero. He was welcomed. This take the gas they promised. They wouldn't tell anyone. Darrow wouldn't hear it. He snapped Try anything or I'll blow a hole in you. I've killed before and I'll kill again, one by one guerrero had the four friends tie one another two trees. While he watched he made sure to leave several feet of distance between the trees, so that none of the captives could see each other slowly and methodically. Garral walked back through. The woods varying his hostages. Eventually, he reached the first tree where eighteen year old phil was tied up. He lowered his gun and pulled out a book knife. darrow stabbed phil repeatedly in the chest, though the others couldn't see what was happening. They heard fills, anguished, cries and then terrible silence, panicking the others.

and struggling against their ropes since cairo had force I'm too tired themselves up it wasn't too difficult break loose soon, nick Dave and carol were all free. They all fled in separate directions. Momentary stunned gara looked around frantically and spotted a set of put prince in the mud he studied running out, The tracks and caught up with dave in the woods pressing rifle into the back of the young man's head darrow wished him to return to the campsite he ordered David next to him in a ditch and help keep watch. It's not clear exactly why it might have made more sense to flee, but as far as we can tell Guerrero simply froze everybody's likely familiar with fighter flight, but there actually three typical responses to danger, fight flight and freeze its believed that the third response arises when the other two are unlikely to be effective in the

situation is the human body stays put to wait for the danger to pass com Lastly, or not, it seems guerrero decided that fighting and fleeing weren't his best options. He was acting on pure instinct regard. This of what was going on in his mind the two escapees work dwelling on it carol, sprinted through ever lakers of dense woods and unto a nearby road. Where is she luckily managed to flag down a passer by almost or ventilating. She told the driver what had happened and he agreed to take her to the nearby village of speculator for help meanwhile nick ran to his car and gunned it still half blind with panic, as he drove away when he reached nearby village of wells. He pulled into the parking lot of a diner and began screaming for help. According to all Jim Tracy, the locals were wary Nicholas puppet endured and to them appear to be having some kind of psychotic episode. His story about being attacked,

a lunatic in the woods, sounded like a bad acid trip. Eventually, though, He persuaded a group of residence to come with him to the campsite there. They came across Dave and Guerrero still lying on their stomachs in the ditch when I saw the locals coming. He led to his feet and ran toward some screaming he's got a gun. and he's going to shoot, but gara didn't shoot. Instead, he calmly got to his feet and walked away into the forest once again it's hard to make sense of garros thought process here, but retreating turned out. Be a smart call. His calm attitude surprised and confused the locals so much. Oh, that no one bothered pursuing him, meaning The man who picked up carol call the sheriff in the town of late pleasant about fifty miles away once The authorities in both towns got involved. It soon became clear that karel dave and nick stories matched perfectly state troopers found

fills body still tied to a tree near the campsite this week, since some acid trip gone wrong this. Nearly a mass murder in forty eight hours, sprawling man hunt was under way or the two hundred plus officers com, the woods and mountains around the crime scene, helicopters, buzzed, overhead and blood boys to a trail on the ground amid the chaos garral abandoned his car and fled into the woods on foot that turned out to be a fatal mistake. Before long. The authorities found his car and trace the license plates. Thirty seven year old robert guerrero was now the most wanted man and the state of new york looking into record, the police discovery was on bail for sexually assaulted to minors and syracuse he'd ray gently missed his court date at some point. They also. then, if I'd gara was a suspect in danny's murder, based on the similarities between the killings and the location and add or on deck park, Susan

its meanwhile, was still considered missing the possible letty that she might still be alive. Maybe even a captive added new urge see to the investigation room. is that a serial killer was on the loose spread terror throughout the area. After hearing the news, some panic campers abandoned their tents and campsites, leaving their supplies behind to catch care. The police set up a sprawling network of roadblocks around adirondack park. They were confident were closing in on the killer, but gara was crafty. He evaded the police broadband. and without anyone noticing stolen car from a large and escaped he got no way again by the skin of his teeth, but he I have no intention of ever getting caught coming up, Garros crimes. Finally, catch up to him. Now back to the story.

In early august of nineteen seventy three thirty seven year old, Robert Guerrero had been on the run for about a week after some how slipping out about IRAN deck park, he It is way east towards lake champlain, his younger says, agnes lived near by many new. She wouldn't turn him away. The cops already had her house under surveillance, but as it turned out, Guerrero happened to arrive shortly after the police left to follow up on another lead. He stayed briefly just long enough to watch himself on the eleven o clock news. Thanks to that report, here, why the police had already identified his stolen car carroll, told sister and her family, that the whole thing was a misunderstanding. According to you was Jim Tracy. Agnes believed him, so she didn't alert the police to his presence you're an hour or so he slipped out of the back door and disappeared into the night, leading stolen car behind the

Next day, the authorities found the vehicle on a dirt road near agnes home. Now its second week, the man hunt widened to cover the entire county. Darrow travelled by foot nearby wooded areas, stealing food and drinks from homes and campsites when it could, maybe he figured here your odds of surviving in the woods. He was wrong. On august. Ninth, a game warden spotted jarrow and recognized him immediately. He tried to scarecrow under arrest, but the killer fled the children running at always worked well for him. Time, though, the game warden gave chase when Guerrero refuse to stop. He pulled out his gun and shot him four times. Somehow display bullet wounds to his back arms and legs guerrero kept moving, but only for a few moments Finally, he collapsed into the undergrowth authorities,

him to the hospital as soon as he awoke they bombarded him with questions desperate to determine susan's whereabouts, but gara, used to say a word accept task. For his lawyer, frank armani, Armani had been effective, and ruthless and defending guerrero against assault charges. In the past you didn't persuaded some victims, drop their cases. Kara was cut. but in his old attorney, would come through for him again. Armani took the cat he's an enlisted? A criminal defence lawyer, Francis Belge, as co council? The defence headed uphill battle? of lawyers knew it. There was a lot of. but in cigarette scarecrow, most importantly There were three eye witnesses who could testify against him. So gay Oh admitted everything he told his team. You held not only filled on blueskin, but also susan pets and elisa how the high school or in syracuse by that point, a he had not been found. The police had her peg does

teenage runaway, but gara told them exact where he left. Her remains in us material near syracuse university, he revealed that he disposed of susan's body inside the air vent of a mind shaft. He seemed curiously detached, he described the murders when he wrote. Killing susan. He used the roundabout phrase. She got stand, with my knife, these passive raising, might simply indicate guerreros unwillingness to take responsibility for his crimes or it could point to something deeper, a type dissociation in psychology This word is a blanket term that refers to a break in a person's mental functioning generally disconnect between thoughts, actions, feelings or sense of self, search shows that some level of dissociation during a violent crime is relatively common. So its past, Bulgaria, knew he'd, killed susan, but felt a real life attachment to the act, our money

Belge didn't have time to dwell on the nuances of garros phrasing they had make sure he was telling the truth, so they followed the directions he given them event we come to a steep hill and a stretch of woodland at the top they found the mind shaft, along with the van Guerrero, had described peering into the agnes with a flashlight, the men, recoiled, Susan's, boy, He was exactly where guerrero said. It would be a separate trip. Belge confer that girl hid ilusha hucks body at a cemetery in syracuse the attorneys news, police were searching for susan and Alisha their family, had been an agonising limbo for weeks now: they alone knew the truth, but under the attorney client privilege rules, they disclose anything guerrero had told them there are. Some action since to this rule in most states can break attorney clay privilege if someone is in danger, for example, but that didn't help here in it,

thousand. Sixteen episode of the pod radio lab our money, sk. How morally conflicted he felt during this time. Both families we're still clinging to the hope that their daughters might be alive, and he he couldn't say anything during the radio lab episode. He said you wake up, two thirty in the morning with sweat, running down your back, your questioning yourself, you're hurting people so he began to wonder am I in the right profession he searched desperately for ways to get the information out without directly betraying his client. He tried brokering a deal the prosecution offering the location, the bodies in exchange for a more lenient sentence, but the d fused on moral grounds. Fighting unethical for the than to use the bodies as a bargaining chip. Ultimate, We the bodies were uncovered without armies, help in the final ex of nineteen? Seventy three two kids die

hold onto susan's remains, while they were playing in the mind shaft coincidence, We lee syracuse university student founded leashes body in the cemetery around the same time after month, bag agony. Both families were at last able to bury their loved ones. Garros six secrets were all unveiled, six months later. The thirty eight year old stood trial for the murder of philip don blueskin and pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to support this claim heat to fight on the stand about his abuse of childhood and history the best reality it did little to vince the jury on june. Twenty seven, they found robert gear. guilty of murdering philip dumbo escape. He was given maximum sentence of twenty five years to life and sent to the Clinton. Actual facility most episodes of serial killers we'd be winding down around this point, but rob darrow story is bizarre to the end. Far from showing

any remorse for his crimes. Garros matters first few years behind bars lashing out at every one. He sued the state claiming their who provided him with adequate care. While he was hospitalized with gunshot wounds, He also suit the officer who shot him along with the doctors who treated him. he even suit his lawyers for inadequate defence, just in case Did they didn't already regret taking him on? As a client eventually representatives from the state reached a deal with garral. They would transfer him to a medium security facility. If he agreed to drop is lawsuits in ninety, seventy eight, four years after his conviction, gear arrived at fish kill prison, no for housing inmates with disabilities and the elderly. That was at the beginning of his master plan. He also cut, dr lingering injuries from being shot and used a wheelchair to get around for that. He was. Placed in a low security unit for those with physical disabilities. In time, the guards b

in particularly. We lacks around him. That was, mistake, quality guerrero didn't need the wheelchair he spent his secretly working out in a cell preparing himself for what was to come in timber of nineteen. Seventy eight guerreros. Eighteen year old son, Robert junior, paid him a visit. While the prison was technic medium security, it seems a security on that day was minimal, because somehow Robert junior smuggled a pistol aside of all things, a box of KFC chicken, it's been suggested by some that for Robert junior it was an act of love for the distant father. He craved validation from forget The gun was an insurance policy. You wouldn't you it unless he absolutely had to that after lights, out guerrero, made a dummy out of pillows, stuffed it inside his prison clothes and left it under his sheets. Accordingly,

tracy guerrero, then exit it is selling his wheel, chair and used it. cable leg to pop off to railings from his wards porch, leaving a gap just wide enough for him to wiggle through armed with a pistol was ready to use it. If anybody confronted him, but once again soon purity was lax and it seemed Nobody noticed, garral go, no did they see him head outside scale the prison fence and disappear into the darkness beyond Jerome tibet, a lady ass. He jumped down from the fence onto free soil. Yet again he d extraordinary odds to evade justice breathing in the night air. He felt invincible. The morning after a guard saw what appeared to be guerrero still asleep in his cell after the wake up call and yelled at him, when there was no response he realized, was going on and raised the alarm within it

officer, said combed every square foot of the prison and its grounds in beacon the closest the prison residents were warned that an inmate had escaped as good. The police and state trooper scoured the surrounding area. They must have felt hopeless, after all, Ro had a huge head start, his escape had gone unnoticed for an entire night. He might already be out of the state, maybe even out of the country, but she hadn't reasons that remain unclear, garrow didn't even run once he was free. He didn't take off through the dense woods or steel, a car from the lot. Once again, he just froze three days after his escape corrections. Officers found him running through the woods. Just beyond the prison fence. Astonished held at him to stop and began chasing him in response garros, one of the officers. With that the official opened fire shooting him thirty nine times in all on

september eleventh, nineteen. Seventy eight robert guerrero died, the age of forty, two three, ex later his son pleaded guilty do a charge of promoting prison contraband. He claimed he hadn't the details of his father's escape plan and thought the pistol was to defend them. From a fellow inmate, though we Eighteen, rubber junior was tried as a juvenile and ultimately released on parole after serving three months and a youth facility garros escape and demise are so absurd that it can be easy to overlook how the killer bent the system to his advantage. He served less than five years behind bars during which he focused on nothing but his long con. Ultimately, he died without holy bearing the weight of what he done. The

thanks again for turning into serial killers, we'll be back soon with another episode from for information on Robert guerrero amongst the many sources we used, we found Jim Tracy's book sworn to silence the truth behind Robert Guerrero and the missing bodies case. Radio labs. Two thousand sixteen episode the buried bodies case extreme. we helpful in our research you can find besides, if serial killers and all others, but if from park ass for free on spotify, really We'll see you next time stay say: thought there. serial killers is a spot from par cast our head of programming, is julian, blah row are Revising sound designer is russell mash, with nick Johnson as our head of production and spent howard as our postproduction supervisor stacy. making our supervising editor and dear jennings. Is our writing lead the surface of serial killers was written by emma dipped in ended by IRAN.

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