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I know yeah I've done I've done them, you might say it's not possible, but I've done I've done in the last four days. I've done thirty cents and the four days I've done six podcast, you might say comrades during the one night, so that isn't possible, but it is as long as you cross the international date line between each podcast you can make it work, is don't go in the wrong direction now? Will you in trouble, yeah. Look at us. The pup is making it into the mainstream. A lot of you have sent me included Chris Evans, not that one have sent me the article from the guardian. So what you're saying is it adultery? If you choose. With an ai companion, which I know I don't. I don't think that arab hope not or I'm in a lot of trouble, because I often just masturbate over thin air, which is,

all that is to be always every sentence to be much more interested in the story, this right beneath it, but no one ever comments on which says we made horse. an incidental shakers nice, which I think is also possibly a an emergency question of done, but we will find out whether it's a it will happen before we have a discussion about whether it's cheating to have it's with AI? I was just like the ai or create a saucy conversation with the aura that you gotta to be allowed to do that in a relationship you, madam spice up, though you they're yeah? What do they get? We definitely think so. they actually having sex with nothing. You can't live. If they spoke having sex with nothing? What can he was left for you, now having sex with nothing now anyway,

it's cracker, because we have a fabulous guest, can't believe it's only his second ever appearance on this show, and nor can he's furious. The perfect, so lax he's best known, of course, as mickey moran in doctors. That's why we're all here tonight Will you please ask them the incredible fertilizer, german speaking, as indeed do how I got, Good, I'm I'm, you know, I'm delighted, you're in doctors, I missed the episode. I haven't seen this okay yeah it's one of those, this is a view things I've been in that I'm not saying remedies. That is absolutely one of them, yet not very wheeler dealer www with joy,

I sell a load of blow up dolls where the inflatable men, I think that was that- was the the wrong audience you're going for that you guys, maybe maybe not I would I all I remember- is that it was very much tangentially involved with this plot. The episode that I had the one thing I remember like I didn't. I only spoke to anyone. any of the other members of the cast at the very end, my grannie, with seen by one of the doktor and somehow that's why they crowbar it in this weird only fools horses storyline about a trader, you do well a lot of acting jobs, though none of it's in beta do more jobs than I do episodes of your fucking second time. This is the first time I was on the only other time yet and SARA Pascoe was on as well, and it was her first time. Okay.

How may have surpassed goeben on policies? Another life- I've got every time she's on it again. Can I follow you on twitter, like it and everybody's dying arizona, yeah, well, people do get asked back today, right, ok, nice, three times I still haven't I like it. I mean, I think, she's very funny cheers. Before time ever there Now I ve been on a second time still against white, says but zopyrus so funny you have to space out appearances, otherwise suppose it for that It's like when there's a very popular tv show they move around, and this guy just to give the other shows a chess have ass. They were I've been involved, shows its aid are dissolving popular figure. We need. We need to give this occult following epithet.

What we do, we will not advertisers will not marketed and we will sneak out at different times. It is getting every week at the very core series to of dara eggs, big adventure, so for the last time, only not the last time there's been many times, but I know you're a big fan of quizzes and you ve done quite a few of the envy. As am I and I sighed tweeting a lot about tenable. A new, very excitedly go in touch me and said If you ever do, if you ever have a celebrity team at edible, can I say I want to do it? Sadly, I've not been able to make that happen. Yet I dunno if they've done a celebrity version of tenant. I don't know that have either you or your plan have found that I find tenable and is a weird one. It's a little. I think it's a difficult quiz have you ever watched it and just marveled at how stupid people Have you ever gone? You really really. You name names

a brass instrument and they ve done I think the problem is that is actually pretty hard. It is, then add, don't think they they don't necessarily bring on the best quizzes, Even if you hit the right subject for you, then you're, okay, there and there's some way you can prepare just learn all of shakespeare's plays, learn all the monopoly board. The monopoly board comes up. All the time he's learned the monopoly. Broad I'm going to be absolutely one hundred percent honest with you. I am doing the weakest link, an excellent I'm lined up to do okay and last night having been out having gigged, and then I got home. I I I went to I player and I put on various celebrity weakest links and I just sat full of whiskey and beer and I even like just forward wound through the fucking who's voting for hooves. Yet I just it was just the questions I just sat there like it was boot camp

is the weakest link. Questions is gm bismarck, the churches, berlin cafe and I hope you get voted off in the first day. I'm going to do that to happen. It's going to be like a really fucking, easy question, but it'll be something like love, island or coronado, just something that everybody knows. I just don't know and it'll be some really easy. Something about taylor, swift and I'll, be live now and I'll get voted off. Yeah, I'm sure you're going to do while I'm sure the problem with dvd to well off the beaten track, We don't think that to the majority want the videos you are allowed to be really ashy about that get voted out, but it's for charity to get voted off because they you you might win. That is a dick move,

but then you might think about your own jet, your chance to win, but my charity. What we now have to think about my about its all about who's, gonna get the most money for whatever chap. Surely now now is my says, a fair play just to draw the add too, I think people will be able to achieve did when my bra mattel whoa is that the only show I know that has def two different hosts, so warwick Davis. Does it and then Sally Lindsay, took over for a bit, and I want to know what the story is there. The thing that has happened before other shows not made so little of mid series of Abu heard of pointless at every turn out and stop doing pointless, and now they ve got quite a lot of different people ever seen. Have I got used to it

I did it, for you is very unusual. The first serious earlier nipples around for a while David was because he didn't go up to the eight who would have been off doing willow. I think that's probably was appropriate that the tv series that is already being pulled from disney plus no shade work, but. To make a studio forum. That was the right for him and then make another studio for Sally Lindsey there. That's the most as they had to change its share anyway? You ve done either the ones I haven't done. That done up. You've done, MR and mrs! Yet now, Mr Mrs was a bit I feel it was a bit unfair because I was on with Angela you're, hopefully on with your wife, my wife, okay yeah, but one of the other couples was, I I can't remember her name is Angela Griffin

guess Dago beautiful, I didn't get ivo romance bright, so here's the pier and her husband had been on an already have been on it before. Okay with one of the jackson's, maybe tito yeah and then subsequent to the recording before the broadcast. Michael Jackson died, and they just thought it was too weird because it was a bit of chat with the guy, whichever member of the jackson, five. It was about his brother in that way, without any mention of the fact that his brother was now dead right, though they felt that the entire show had to be trashed and re recorded, so we're not even recorded they just binned it the engine.

By having already done it once tracks is run, and I just think that was just not presented to us, which, as you know what say you did, it was still just glad you ever at the boy made the most money. One does a bit debate the where we, where we lost it was as if it were you just hold up a panel. You just hold with a puzzled the athlete left or right, depending on whether whether the answer applies to you or your partner, and it really. If you If you are of a mind and I'm not accusing angela of cheating, but if you ever reminding you knew that that was at work, you could just decide with your other half were just going to go left right right, because what questions were your cards? I'm just saying: if he had been on the show before and you knew how it works, and there is the way the union gave in the system and day

in December light on that road, the one round where you get up salute the game. The system with the rapid way they did very, very suspiciously well, but I'm not accusing her of anything. I was hoping for more out there, but the absolute lack of allow really makes me look like more of an arizona. It just tells me backstage how you got in trouble last time we're making an accusation about a tv show and ethics,

You might just the naked sunrise family fortunes. You want family fortunes. Did we want family fortunes? My sister did all the heavy lifting on that one guy and nothing in the end where you think you have to get like two hundred points. The the fallen jack, buckley and she'd already got like one hundred and sixty points it'd be hard, though four of the five top answers you got out there, that's pretty good, which really ruined my opportunity to look like arab yeah. You could have still got the. I got the other one. Okay, get the very good still got all five. You just have to go again, so you still had chanced to be era, and let it out right these of other things that I'm surprised about with you. What no surprise night! I don't if this is just a lot bambi if some guarantee carpentry- and I understand you- ve- built your own gazebo is about it, you know everything about you up. Barriers have surfaced. I dont know I dive, indeed but now that everything, if you listen to other programmes,

I haven't read the book ass. I got that from an interview. It might be we'd like a local newspaper. Someone must then yeah data buildings evil. I also don't a sunken patio. Well yeah. I may not know you because you're out Was a movie you let you'd like. I know you like: climbing climbing mountains admirers, the the gardening thing, the hard landscaping all came about myself, my wife, basely just decided to divide and conquer. I do usually like to do a bit of cooking, but when we were locked down- and we had to just- we just went right- she just said you to fuck off outside yeah. You go in the garden and stuff that needs doing, and this stuff there that doesn't need doing, but I'm sure can find something and she

he did all of the cooking. Like all of it. I didn't thriving we're locked down, I didn't, I barely made decisive toast and it's just became a thing and it be just became our domain in the garden became and she used to be in the garden is used to be a euro grove, edge and stuff like that, and you just did she didn't go near it and it just became in order to keep I sell, saying we just decided. It was like the have you seen the film the war of the roses. Yeah bit. Are they and they they they they actually island is like this seems rational to you. I got more square footage anyway, yeah. It was like that we decided we have we're stuck. We can't leave this house, so here's your domain and here's.

my domain name that work out view of increasingly see what they are doing and its notre dame doing anything live in the shannon rival, where an opposite ends of the house. If we find that works, a lot better, communicate via the children and sometimes the cat, then well, let's see it. I dont baker used to live in it other different house or the different ends of the house with his wife and things. Maybe it's a good idea, maybe if we do it, when you will be able to be there at a website you in his heart and my what am I left us nor I have to admit and depending on what time we gotta get up in the morning, we will I will go and sleep in the guest bedroom, but we do find that works quite well get the idea to where the

We do love each other absolutely, but we also enjoy isley. I think that's a good idea, I'm this, nor in our family. Although my white does not as well, I have to say that, but I think I've definitions are allowed in that, but the kid sometimes complain if they ve been eggs for it to do so. I sometimes go. I've got an attic upstairs. I sometimes go fanatic now my wife, It sounds like a monster and see what I used to routine about it. You they. Could you tell me once? Do we not sound like a kitten, you have to go with the feline analogy. You sound like a cat drowning in porridge.

So while I'm glad I'm glad that day is because the gazebos I understand, you didn't quite get the roof right so that it leaks a little bit. Is that right? If I tell you what did I put a thing so that we could put a fire pit, so I put it like a chimney thing on it yet so that smoke can go out of it. It means that it's not ideal, if you're, if it's absolutely pissing rain will get in. But if it's absolutely pissing go sit in their fucking gazebo, when it's absolutely pissing it down to you, I mean- and I did build it partly because we were in an air lock down and then there was the road it'll be good at you can have people over, but they had to be in your garden, so it was. It was kind of for that yeah, you know it sounds very sounds very grown up. I couldn't I could not make a gazebo. I can't. I can't do that. You can come and look at mine and you can go out. You can't make it gazebo either. However, it will not last the test of time. That's for certain jerk.

or I got numerous question based on looking up you another save, you can work at Y Y y. You answer this question. Is have you ever say it is not. The weirdest preamble d rested her every day. I find that again. I just wonder whether you'll get the same odds. I've gotten to this question. I think you can answer this question. Have you ever saved anyone's life? Oh gosh, I'm not! I don't think I ever saved somebody's life, but I certainly assisted somebody. Okay, it might be the same in in an on on the hill. Okay, that's one of the studies too. I've got to that's one of them. I think you've saved two lives. I can't remember the other. One was there's someone collapsed on their knees and use the slapstick what he done it turned out afterwards. He torn all the ligaments in his knee. He gave it somebody he was carrying quite a heavy pack and he went away. He stepped he D, cracked, his name so myself, an and and

called the bee, whose and outdoor riser with me. However, I would do anything and article five, the greater and we met yet we met this guy and he had done his name. His name was josh gradually and that's important, and so I base I took his pack from here. Ok, and it was really an. We walk him too to safety. My walking poles, my walk imposed in every walk, impose. He had fucking, everything else. He was taking some dark matter for a strong light. He had a bag, all to burn in the fuckin, fireplace at the bosnian everything you know like full, not even dehydration food like full fucking the atlanta neat but didn't have any walking poles anyway, we we yeah, we walked him to safety and and the joke you used to do, but it was like that and I tweeted about it and then it got picked up by the newspapers and

seemed like a comedian hero of the day or the same man apart from the daily mail that said that EU migrants deals backpack that historically yeah but he never Josh rashly is now george Josh bachelor Haven't you mba, perhaps obi because he then went on to be one of the cave, diving team that saved the football you haven't been tyler. Him died at their craft reading. it is why we have exactly why my fucking obi, through the maze you saved loads of lives, What did you say what I'm very as good? The time you saved your life was to do with diarrhea

oh god yeah! Oh yes, that was with my gut was with the power of my colleagues yeah exactly and I had a routine about the fact. I had chronic diarrhea for a few weeks and I went to the doctor and the the routine was really about awkwardness around attractive young women. It was really about what about the fact that I hate myself that I having become a middle aged man. I shouldn't care, but I do care what attractive young women think of me and I shouldn't, but I do and I remember being in the in the gps office and they went. We have some students who'd like to listen in. Is that alright, with you and I went fine and of course one of them was gorgeous and- and it was just just just made

To tell you no use of you, you know once it was recognized. You totally fucking talked me and sense of me talking about my fuckin shewed orange urban areas, and just just why you about my diary and I let it was a thing about blood and that we as the eu is their blood and is still, and basically there was no blood in this joke as aware no stools, because it was basically like if you put obstacles in a soda stream with what was happening and but I said to the doctor or the medical student: yes there's blood, but does nothing to worry about was the It was a desert. Everyone blood actually be is the point I made of biological diversity. Would actually in your soul. If you actually have blood in your stool, that's a sign. There's something seriously wrong and you need to go yourself. Get get yourself checked out, but it was just a case of your iris is in tatters

You ve been fuckin spraying out of its twenty four hours a day for two weeks. That's not so much to our aims and the kind of with that, I knew this much whether the fact that I said the dog yeah, there's blood, but it's nothing. To worry about it's more, that he dated a fucking joke about that, so that was kind of what. But having said that, having said that thing of, if the blood actually and you're still there was women in the audience in and it was up now, I think, was in carlisle or somewhere, probably in the she had had been experiencing that yep and then, when I said that onstage you entered okay, maybe I better get myself looked at and she did and she had colon cancer right, because they called it early enough then, and then she went on to become an advocate for savers and children and gave rise to an old. She went on to work, for you must,

In writing, type and level of arrangements, so she was actually the other team. I really says got something about a person, but they'll have blooded their stores and are we having diarrhea and not it wasn't until the comedian, I'm sure it's what people do? People do kind of go. I'm sure. That's fine and I know I exist, but men tend to do more. Men have a tendency to be more thing, I'm sure it's nothing than women women. I think to have a tendency to be more kind of, but I actually not not in this case. No, no and then it just took me just nudging her maybe at the end of every show, as you just go, and if anybody has been affected by any of the issues raised in I've event. Here by the way, goes against an hour is checked out tomorrow. To let us know how it works is beautiful. This causes. As regards good say, but what if we save sovereignty, goes on to kill a load of children mecca if that's it

I have been a candy, That's really balance that I don't know, we don't know, is it, is it worth saving the person until you know what they're going to do with the rest of the life that you've given them? You should make them sign something if you're going to say you are going to help you that if you prefer to devote the rest of your life to good okay, be stubborn I'll, do it. What do you think about the question? Have you heard and I know you know you got feelings about. I will do it, did I just do another interview today I had I have to give an answer. He didn't view which you said you don't think ai will ever replace. I'm not worried about that and ok, I did I did and I don't think I'm going to make you do it, because it's so awful, but I don't think

it's worth you gonna, make me read it in a script, but I did I he love you don't have you got? You did a prompt, get an ai to write standup in the style of Edberg days. Let me just say that I just spoke. I just set myself in the second, carson. I just haven't lodging working with writing. That's all lay out having my funny? If I did the needed only, did oh please rise again raises shit right there, Where would you do what you do it like that? If I was my girl, would you would you without give it a go. How you do tonight is great we here, I must say it like they ve written it. I didn't say that their that's, not that not written in the style of that's pure there I always say that it's is. I used thought Iraq. You know I love doing stand up comedy, it's the only job where people willingly pay you to stand on stage and mock their lives. It's like therapy, but with an audience and a two drink minimum.

To drink minimum, where am I america had well, I visit other white guys in tobacco is a joke where it says that I mean he's really bad about not be offended. If I was you be offended, I think that this is about it. Is that don't we start on social media is like a never ending high school reunion. We used to think the world was big, but now we know exactly what everyone we ve never met is eating. For breakfast its

Is there use that is good to go? It's ridiculous, especially when it doesn't get is ridiculous. I don't need to see your perfectly plated avocado toast janet. I just want you to know. I just want to know if you still only twenty bucks bucks yeah right. I thought that's what I'm more offended by that is absolutely just gone at Bernie's, the canadian just call it the fucking comedian thing that we've got that's it, so I think you're right. The ai will not yet replace. Certainly what if it does replace me, it will replace me with a very mediocre american, but do you consider it? If I I did a study, I did a joke about ai the other night that didn't I. I thought it was very funny. Do you do corporate journal of you still have done one for a while, but I did one for a very specific industry. It was people who work in the archiving and

and and the provision of archive footage that you in storing retrieving and using for documentaries or or the aqua good got away with it with the irish have got away with just think. Oh my god he's very emotional. The fact that did you hear the tremble in his voice and provide ACA of origin, these dora and they widget, and they also do a bit of retouching of it. They do like upscaling to four k obligation. This is an entire industry is built around this whole thing of storing and, and I hadn't had an award show, and I hosted it, and so I was trying to do jokes about that subject and one of the jokes I did that I thought was quite funny.

as you know, what's great about you guys is that your job cannot be replaced by ai l, try and yet ai can help. You know that programs that maybe help you clean up and get scratches out of an old film or have your upscaled to four k, but it takes actual human beings to watch footage and be able to identify where all the traffic lights are yeah funny that they didn't think it was funny at all. Got fucking know that a journey that for sure did you think the job doesn't change, but he does you know you think it's all about. You have to travel into tagging things.

What unibody, but then you know, ten years ago the whole thing changed and the new skill came out of having to paint and edit out all the sex offenders. You know my way around funny adult now they don't like it up. Em, that's the thing, those guys with a bear anyway. Do you think it's cheating to have sex with an ai chatbots, I think, is what the the idea isn't it. So you can, you can do what I did with, used, it is great and had been retained, but you could go hey. I do want to some. May we really please and then say what is it now and I would not be cheating at all, because your willy wouldn't get sucked, but I wouldn't why? Wouldn't there be? No sucking would happen to the willy with it, and therefore no crime was committed. Seven, the seventy seven percent of women can sit, would consider that eating up according to this getting an essay I yet hawk dirty to say

women and really native and work with them, so that none of the worst thing that happens in your relationship. If you find out that your husband or your parent or is to halt talking, the dirty has deliberately chosen to talk dirty to some to a person who does not exist. They haven't paid a prostitute, haven't had an affair literally stock is someone who does not exist and do nothing more than talk dirty who the fuck that's, Mr Barroso, that you doing the gravity behaves like. How could that be a problem, though I agree with you, but I think I'll have again been sure, because Is it cheating that gavin said he was genuine? He and I, and I, and I could say with absolute confidence. I don't think my wife would think that was cheating either. I think the I my I even my wife who won't. Let me have sex with a robot.

Moreover, I made no cause. I've been theocracies yields yvonne. You know that don't you, was a humorous was the only way. I know. That's where the debate a rigid eighty became an that's further, but nobody actually have sex with a physical. The person a these robots, a robot so like general John, doesn't to it is like jabba Jan designated jam. It does happen, jack jack, jack, lighthouse girl, she was gone, Well, I can, then I can get wire in there yeah yeah, the implication. There was the only thing stuff me with my loyalty gg What's up, It's not my marriage issue about I've met, five times the boy

as you know, there was a character. There was no who also looked after their kids. They do. This has inherited that they trusted look over the good, not personally, he, whatever disabled approach, without the bang it. So there was an argument. absolutely was a little se was a little bit seedy by actually fucked something but you're talking about. But you don't worry about it. What about what during the day, I you got, the Henry hoover would be there. That's also curious because it depends because some women are all right. For instance, if there are other have is with you know, somebody of the same sex ok arose. So if we already but was henry- but if it had been a heavy hoover, like minded gotten annoyed by that it's a game, my mind that we have to be careful that we do the second to up to watch, but uproar. I broadly coming. I think that once it does seem with that that bob most men, I think that that would

literature rubber, maybe have misunderstood what having sector they eyes, but I don't eat when it doesnt have all having sex you talking about like phone sex. Chat, yeah utopian ideas. He says thing I guess it's possible to have, because what what what you can do is have someone do your training, video card for you? Can you can do? type in and then maybe a video and someone who do the training video, but it's not a real person like so many. If you mean maybe it's that when you take the thing in person or whatever you want, will appear and do the things, but it's not real, but still not really, I think it's a I of a fairly unhealthy relate, not only to again, I would say its fairly. I would. I would consider that guilt free, because, again, did they know? What literally and no one is involved is very complicated and I would say quite sad: masturbation good when you think about it? If, if, if you, if you're jacking off the porn other people,

actually, where involved in making that they their real people there s a recording of them. Yet that's more unfaithful, because you're actually looking at actual human beings that so there's more than the more of an involvement of another person. In doing that, then there is a guess. I guess it with other then artificials cons. I guess the people that they are a constant would probably not let the poor not freeze. Well, they. yeah? But I will says that which is worse, though I'm going on were of an important thing. Neither is particularly bad. I agree less rest. Scared to address a retrial be free. What we're doing less. it's talk about your what this is, and this is an edinburgh fringe podcast. Of course, I should have mentioned that at the top. This will be going out during the edinburgh fringe. This has made the edinburgh fringe not going to the edinburgh fringe so being at the edinburgh fringe up very clever something to artificially at the Adams

yeah yeah. So so we will talk about your your animal show. You're doing any standup show that you're also going to be touring yeah, called tragedy, plus time tragedy plus time manager is, it comes from a very serious play. It is a bit yeah and I think that's the hardest thing about the show has not been writing. It has been difficult and performing, and so far it has been has had it's difficulties, but the hardest thing has been: I've been talking about it in an upbeat way, because the show is centered around the the the death of my little brother died last year, and it's something that's really quite sad and I, but he would want me to talk about it. I know he will, and the thing is I'm actually already quite a hack, because I saw three,

it was at the edinburgh fringe last year about this. When I say about this, I don't mean about their little brothers dying. I saw three shows about my little brother dying because he was a comedy writer and he was company's director what his thing his name was Paul Paul barrett. His thing was, he would take people who had like forty five minutes of jokes and he would help them turn that into a one person. Edinburgh fringe show. It was quite a quite a niche role in comedy, but he was really good at it and he had a bunch of lines that a bunch of people who you'd know erosion, Kennedy, Larry dean s into the people he who we worked with and helped. You know just improve their shows, though he was working on. Various people shows at the time of his death. He died in February and filled it with a bunch of people there in that august, whose shows I went to see who stared at all talk and allows

so this show didn't turn out how I wanted. I was working on it with my director Paul who's, also my friend, and they do have that Paul, he's very fun and they would talk about ball and then and then, like the forty five minute mark would go anyway Paul DA. I totally saw it coming that may but yeah. So there was a bunch of shows vesicle at that last show, but I've just and I think people can forgive me- I've taken slightly longer to write mine but yeah. He absolutely would want you know, as I say, to the audience at the start of the show. He would want me to It is so you don't laugh you're the ones disrespecting, but but then talk about at beholding about here, but I was on Saturday kitchen, the other day talking about it and that's a bob malaysia and as I guess, what job out like like

on the upside, it's not about the kids shows they're about parenting and it really pisses people off. But this one is not a pet, because it's my dead brother, you know, we've just got to just go and what it is. It is it's about it's about the conceit of the shows it's about the darkest joke I ever told which I won't reveal here it is. It comes at the end of the show it's about something I said to my mother afterwards, and it puts the whole thing is about how humor can get you through the the worst thing, and I think it was about it- was supposed to be mark twain since I've. Since I named the show tragedy plus time I've been doing bit more reading about it and apparently wasn't

maybe I was a man who had been attributed to mark twain that that he defined humour as tragedy plus times are the ideas that you, how big a tragedy and how much time before it's funny- yes- and it is we held like the darkest stuff- can still like to stop the worse moment of my life was watching my little brother died. He lit. We went for the switch off for the unplugging of the support, and I made the mistake of playing some music on my phone up. And I knew he liked- but a band I'd never heard I'd, never heard this album and it was van gogh, said to do on the album with sabotage three and it was a fucking. There is no ideal soundtrack to watch your little brother's life arab out of his body. But if there is it's not fucking best it was it made a bad situation worse and it is one of those things where I look back on it. It was like a sitcom, it was I get like it was. It was I mean we're talking proper like?

at the point, at the end of the table, where the guy is just yellow, wow it's locked in a good light. Heavy metal. It's really scored and dark shades. To the point where this is completely when the album finish my brother is still dying and myself My mother. There are still going through this nightmare, but when that album finished, I turned to my mother and said with tank fuck that's over and that is true, and it is undeniably funding that that happens. It's horrible! It's sad, it start, but it is undeniably funny that that took place so that created the whole joe. That's that's that's the tone of it right.

The other they are, but that's what I mean as comedians. Obviously we always you know when we know that that the country is not exactly the juice is not always the funniest up, but that the in those Add things that I'm just in those dark things that most days always there's always a joke in there yeah and I, but also that is exactly that, but processing, something as terrible as that and it's difficult to understand is difficult to comprehend. Is that comedy is a is a great way of doing on foot boat for you Presumably anyone in the audience is experiencing something so as to enhance the only answer

like I knew he needed a liver transplant and he even said to me in the like: in the the november. We will you hate within hospital, and we were talking about it and- and he said like I was Really- this is in the show- is the fact that you know what what's actually really heavy is not the fact that I might die if I don't get a new liver. It's the fact that, in order for me to live, I know that someone else has to die and that's a very difficult thing to deal with. Knowing that for me to live, someone else has to die, but then he went digital last two people probably died to make me iphone so So that's, it would certainly makes a job like that that you know that that that's gonna be like gives you I give it give me licence, well, I've been saying on it and

I do and I and I tell that one of the audience quite early doors to get her to give them license to to to laugh. Basically, I mean these things, at least as horrible as these things have to throw funny stuff and funniest stuff, because the juxtaposition of the worst possible thing happening and something ridiculous happening, really sharpens that some had some of the biggest loves that I've ever had at funerals. Yet I would I shouldn't be laughing or when just something something some singing badly a funeral yeah. well I mean this isn't even in the show but Paul's funeral you a guillotine for time. You know. Have we came onto a replay, the last post writes of which you used to do at the end of every match. Andrew Maxwell's, full moon is used to be. I think it was on the company's doria and use those very last bows and paul was like a you know. It could have worked on that show with them so he went, but he had the wrong mouthpiece in and was overcome with emotion. So it's it was awful. It was just,

and there was something terrible but hugely physic. we're all just laughing at her bodily use playing the last post then, and this is also true- and this is in the joe, in accordance with polish wishes. At the gravity of the celebrant, then press the button and said, and now we commit his body to the flames in the manner in which you requested and he rolled into the flames of the criterion to disco inferno jack, that's true burn baby burn disco inferno. I surname burn he's the youngest in the family. It works on so many levels. I believe you know as well

I know that we wanted to have the same thing. We will we rarely won't. We were laughing at a funeral, I'm trying a bit we want, I'm gonna have, but I do know- and you would be if you in that situation and you can comprehend what's happening. You'd want to think people were even you'd want to go out to non authority music with blood on the walls, but you'd want to guide known people were becoming. Does those of laughter in that room as well as some days in that room it was. There was a lot of very funny stuff at a funeral, yeah yeah. It is a big thing, I'm obviously the the show I'm working on is about my own, but my own cancer, which, luckily, all about yeah yeah is in these kids. You know die at the end of that. I don't know, I don't suppose boilers I wanted

if people guessing about you it it's, but there's that my friend tony just died just before lockdown from cancer, but he was very funny about it as well. So I caught some of his and you talking about him in the show a little bit about him, the show, but you know because, but also really brought armies of black year old and he was a year older than me and- and you know now, I'm older than he he was those things to do. But yes I mean it's. You know that, and I know that he would love to be. and but in the show in another he loved the fact that for his jokes to be told and for people still be laughing at them, but it is you know I've. I've found writing that book. I mean quite difficult, but but also very cathartic and just dealing with the situation, so for you as well, presumably working through the show. Is it helping you, and that must be it. You know emma it's it's a lot more.

Or I went through a lot more well, they were the way died. I was on tour and of what he was with what it was when you look at it was. It was the end I canceled oda, gigs and and then, but they will have to die like going back on the road and that first gig back on the road was the best I felt in like weeks, because it was the one time I didn't think about an insult. You poppy fields, scott as a comic, but the time spent on stage cycle that that's the only ninety minutes of your day. We ve, like you, know what you're doing everything else is either control you ve, no idea. Where is that? One time when europe there, you know exactly how things work while you're here, but I didn't

one time I didn't think about it and it was the best I felt was while I was on stage because it was, I could put it all out of your mind and now that over a year has passed, I actually quite kind of like that you're kind of talking about him. Now that there's been some distance, you know I I kind of feel like I am making an appointment at the end of every day to to talk to other people about them. You know it's and yes, it's it's it's weird and it's like a completely new thing. For me. I have never done a serious. In inverted commas. Show before she'll, never done a show. Where there's you know where people than with the feedback, then we laughed. We cried. We laughed again, usually just we smiled most of it.

Yeah or I will have to deliberate, but we'd seen them before yeah yeah. But I do. I do love that about comedy and I love it about committees. I do. I do love committees, your brother was a was a great guy. I met a few times and it was again it's one of those we're talking backstage by a couple of other people with brass recently and he, but your brother is one of those people that everyone knew and everyone

we've had a long time for and he was you know- and I know how upset I've talked to a couple of the comedians they even on here and I know, upset the people who worked with him whereabouts at all. So it's you know it's it's group, it's it's such a positive thing. I think flynn in every regard. I guess as long as as long as the end of the night, you're not go back to delegate and and and and all hitting you again, I suppose, but I think that there's no way when something like this happens, there's no getting over it. You know it's not like. Oh I'm fine now, but I loved that and I've got over that. Never really happens right so you're. I think too, it's a it's a really positive thing. I can do with gas in the it is. It is the glass of lemonade. I am serving everyone lemons that have been forced upon me, yeah yeah, I mean there, but that's that's why I love that about queens. I love the comedians.

Then didn't give this guy. When I lost a bull, a lot of comedians were quite jealous of the the fact that I had a great subject. Oh everything. I don't think people are that sort of feel the same channel say to you know, get that I mean I get again. This doesn't compare to losing a ball like I had a hernia operation I thought I had a hernia. I went to the doktor, do what you are now a deafening gotta, be ten minutes

It doesn't matter how bad your misfortune is and- and he did it- everything that everything bad that happened at particularly the bad things that happened to you. You do end up turning into comedy the day. Is there any way for people who walk instead to access? As long as there is abundant space? It's about being positive about. You know I I rarely found the most of my experience was incredibly positive because it made me appreciate why I had it made me not want to die. It may be want to see my kids grow up. It made me realize what my priorities were in life, so I suppose everyone can have that kind of revelation, and everyone can see that the positive side of something unpleasant happening. I suppose, but it is, it is a way the comedians have

I think I remember this from the last time he came on the show, I think I hadn't seen I've seen a few times since, but I hadn't seen you for a little while and when you just you, we just you just get into the groove, and it's just like we. We pick up from where you were five years before, sometimes just a comedian for ten years, and you just back into it yeah. There is something weird about comedians and, and people said that about going to other countries and meeting comedians that they've never met yeah that it just you fall into this. We have a shorthand, an understanding that absolutely one hundred percent agree with that's why I got really annoyed that I feel like there's more and more now. There seems to be a bit of a polarization in the comedy world between your. You can't say anything anymore and you're you're. That seems to be awoke. Is Andy wolk civil war? We starting to break out in the world accommodated as distresses me somewhat.

yeah. I guess you feel the comedies becoming a little bit tribal now and then can a. But I suppose all that you know, I think that in extreme cases yeah, if you took the people who were running the the very woke gigs and the people who are running the very unwell gigs, I think aid that that's. I think someone else by this point cut recently. Ivanka, but they saw the same thing over a gateway you're not allowed to do any of that material, the gateway. You can only do that material. The thought of putting so much pressure on yourself that you've you've created the same night yeah just one of them once I think most people can so he going away. Where can I go to do? More? Cereal about the differences between cats and dogs, because there investors, aren't interested

don't say anything anymore crowd don't to fucking, know either, but I think most comedy is still somewhere in the middle of most comedians have rarely in the middle night. I think even I you know, I I sort of really dislike the idea of a night where you do your most offensive material, not because I don't like offensive material, but just because I think it only work.

It isn't a night where you're not expecting events immaterial. You know that little head, it's about my thing about the concept of offensive material, because there are some canadians who have desired given who say that the EU should be able to say what we want on states like the stage should be a safe place in them. I, what use whatever you say? No one sure no one should be able to get a fanned by any comedians, as it allows me do. You know who maybe we pride of the main edgy. Who will who will s powers that notion that if its canadian and it's just a joke, you should be able to say whatever you want and no one should get event, but I go. It would have that's the case. Then what is the difference between Michael Mcintyre in Frankie boy? They live where there's no such thing as edgy. If we can,

anyone should be allowed to say whatever they want yep then there's no such thing. Then there is no edge, but because the the wraps are off so that laugh, you get where people can't believe. You said that and that candidate and the whole concept of of of of of of you know of taking a a distasteful concept and I'm getting comedy out of it or or or pushing an audience is boundaries not going to that ceases to exist. The moment you say: well, it shouldn't matter what the comedian says, You have to accept that it matters what they say in order to be able to get that EU reaction yep exactly and you have to fail. I'm taking. I know I'm jumping into the unknown with this maybe it'll work. Maybe it was the risk. I think that's the I mean that's, maybe what they feel you're losing is. Oh I'm. I think John Cleese is sort of hazing. You know if a comedian doesn't feel they can say anything. Then then, there's that artistic freedom is so fettered, but there's

If the things you can say so you remember in a ninety seven people who had what absolutely be storming it and then they weren't vulgar I'll toss me old, princess diana material and see if it's still worth fucking walk off the zone of their own fate. You know because that was a hotbed for years after she died. You could not make a joke about that woman right and people who are people who were pissing themselves laughing at jokes about diana when she was alive, suddenly deaths there and for like two years and I've seen comedians who had routines by princess diana, and I can say that they were doing great. I remember a few times with the g league liberty, for some reason

the god of others, go, I have to say, since everyone just off the offered in dialogue and see if we can see if we can bring it back when they are, you just turn. No, we are not back and have an it, because whatever it is, there's always gonna be an issue that that their audiences just decided is, is, is beautiful and has always been the case. It's just it's that subject matter changes. That's all that's evil! You ve already got you gotta barometer in every gig and you find out what's what works and what does and that that is the job of the commission about it. You know, I don't think most those gigs in the middle you may. I think someone could come from any either of those other gigs and and still be able to do their stuff serving for most people isn't really effective, and I think when I meet the guys who our right say running those gigs that I don't really care for, I sort of get on with them still. I still nice, though, that you realise there not. They got a different viewpoint to be about

what have you know like doing edgy comedy I like do not like taking risks company so, but they got a slightly different idea of. How would you do that? But I still feel like a home with them and I still feel I get on with woke him woke as you will know, that limits nobler had a guy who has it been woke is about big big unhappy. I still I still like those come. I'm always. I think that the second we know you and I were going in the nineties like this in the nineties- was much more restricted. It was much more white men doing quite laddie stuff and there was a much poorer to give opinion or experience. I would say that now it's really, we got a bad, we gonna beautiful rainbow, we're still, you would go to say somebody's door on a saturday night and virtually every meeting on thursday would have a bit a joke. You don't owe me, and it wasn't consider particularly shocking and what you know

in a way that would make might've been in the easy one the other day. But then you couldn't the nineties, you know, and that was but you but there's a but you you couldn't do anything say about race. You know, and now I think, because we have, I think, more of a you know are more and more diverse and comedy, and population of people, like you doing comedy that things like race can be handled far more openly. You can get more interesting material.

im from from white comedians, now predict when you're on a mixed bill, and you know you know who who they're with and stuff like that. I think these these kind of topics can be discussed more or more widely than than they could when it was a very multicultural circuit there- and I agree, I think is- is that everything's still fair game of things? I I think it's a bit of an art. I think a lot of the things that are dividing society, a slightly artificial, artificial, talking points that aren't rarely, yeah that most people, it doesn't really matter to the one side or the other of the argument, and then you make it mad to someone like brexit is a very good example of that. Brexit was something that thirty years ago know very few people would have cared about and they made enough people care about fritz app

Don't worry! I don't know if that's a good analogy, but that doesn't deter whatever whenever people are pretending to care about. Now is actually going to be massive that it, whether it could be it could be. What I think I think, but by making by the woke, the idea of whiteness is absolutely fucking ridiculous and you can and when the unite people can't define it when they, when they actually are forced to divine it, and it's only by being, you know, being awake and being aware and being kind to people. It is what it really is it now that woke has been redefined by anyone, but anyone who doesn't like the kind of progressiveness that woke was a very specific thing. It meant to be aware of the baked in enact inequalities in society, particularly with regard to race, particularly with regard to it, but not exclusively

that was it the baked in inequalities of society being aware of them, that's being woke and now it's being of eager, but now it's now, it's no good crying at fucking weddings. Recent woke now at any thing that I would anyone does not approve of or doesn't it is typically mail or enough is now welcome its that what's been twas a fanatical and telling us about like builders returning woke because they're talking, history is ludicrous, we're it will be all right. Well, maybe we're gonna, be it's I'm your three point: two percent baneful. Yes, that was wondering I a word on the show, a television programme that about darrow Brian I do to my own stuff and everything else. I science club, I think, was enabled majority

and yet another one of his failed vehicle that, yes, we are. We we you can test it. Does this genetic markers to tell you how how how neanderthal you are? That's quite a lot. Isn't it three point two jpg was pretty high yeah yeah yeah yeah am but he is right, but don't worry, I'm not going to start throwing rocks at your head, or maybe I mean there's I've. I've read a beautiful book right, neanderthals that was on the list, but bookclub. Thank you that that you should all read by rebecca rack. I want to say I hope I've got that right eye, but take it out if I got it wrong, but it's you. I believe that they there's a you know that they're not the neanderthals that were not necessarily the way.

People imagine them so mainly limited. Yes, he had done it was, I think we might have to his last up and then I had actually turned out that we we into bed with neanderthals homo sapiens and yet well, did inbred more well. We didn't think we thought it was going to be completely separate, but actually we did we cohabited and and and and yet we ve found guilty. To even get a drink. It will be cheating to have sex and then the enemy around, but yes actual space. I mean that's technically what they do yeah, but I mean it's still: it's cheating, if you fuck the cat,

still are still having sex with another living greed, your everyday! What are we just? Let it puts a mamma, you conquer these links. We had an answer right that work on its behalf, expects become by a rough tongue. This'll be careful good. Well, I thought about the cash like. I came home divine my wife for the castle, not like that's cheating. They thought the cat yeah tell us where your show is on the edinburgh festival, oh and that the musical I think I'm on, and I think the one around half nine okay. I think roughly people going to look at who goes, who listens to a podcast and goes that's all the info Can I tell you that I am not going to consult devises. I'm not. I looked it up. I need to know,

in a walk there now and make sure I get there at the time he says some and then maybe buy a ticket before you go look at the ticket. This was some time between nine and the show starts between nine o'clock and ten o'clock. I think it's half nine, okay and then you're on top or there'll be onto argument about the the the the towards the data. At the moment I book between now and the end of the year, but there will be more dates than kill, in the summer, brilliance, yeah and it is it nice to be back on the road again just finished my old show. I rang the absolute juice out of the last show I did the show. I did revenge and twenty nineteen. I only stop doing us a few weeks ago. It was I I did it to the internet

The the the nordic countries and I went to new zealand and australia with it as well and as I've only just finished, doing that, and I just recorded at the soho theatre in a july there. So do I because of the truncated nature of that tour, because I had to take eighteen months off because of a pandemic. Oh yeah. Add that to the news the new show is gone. On the heels yeah yeah yeah. It's not like I'm dying to get back on the road, because I've been on the road. I was diagnosed back on the road after after covert yeah and I've been fairly steadily working since then was yeah, but that's good. That's good yeah, yeah if your wife, once rather those of us, that's really out there that's everywhere. He goes god. What have you, zealand as a way to australia, new zealand for like five weeks, and I phoned and said so- I'm coming back on sunday as you went, I thought I had another. We

go well there at the marriage is going with them. I was gonna c4 an idea. No, we We have rules that I'm not jeez. I thought the gas. I am allowed haven't affair with a sigh constructs, its appeal for elections and a wedding present has been directly and now gemma, John, always good appetite. You got the ok from jack. You go live, it's always a delight. We can come back whenever you like you, don't know. I don't know how I feel about because I've just remember, I did do it in the edinburgh fringes. Where I did. so that was a long time ago. It was a long time ago yeah, but I haven't done it here. This is only my second time around so yeah. I still think I'm allowed to be annoyed at the times. I saw that SARA Pascoe had done this when I had never ever run again until you've done this many times and now count up the laughs from each water book

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