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I can report in my take today is monday,
jus Levin and pfc. They tried
tried. They tried, they tried to give us a series, but the nuts
sir, just too good
friday night,
He had a little scott foster yoke. It gets its fifth foul on a phantom. They had some foul we're bam does
great job flopping. They take
I could, in the fourth quarter within nuggets up ten with nine
its left. He doesn't come back in four
five and a half minutes
and the nuggets we're up nine when he came back in so that was it tat was that was me too to me. That was the moment
The series is officially over. It feels like
targets are just too but to two good too tall. Errand Gordon was too to all too good
Monday night,
do we have, I think, an hiv and ask the start of the dynasty. This is, this is merely but the first chapter that were riding with yeah guess if they don't get three titles than its affair
But yet this is this was scot free.
some kind of passing the torch
the nuggets took scott fostering the india is best shot. Scott foster
I'd, be washed up at this point because
he was hired to extend the series, give the heat. Another game that call with
Forty two because bam took took
which his arm and then did a false flag attack on his own face within scott boss was like perfect. That's exactly what I'm looking for boom
Ok, you're going to the bench and then
bruce brown, and then bruce brown happened so
bruce brown air gordon ended the scots. After that
its killed. Scott foster when you,
the legacy when you write to the history of scott foster, you know that
the denver nuggets that killed him.
And it was so
so it was setting up perfectly for the heat have come back because you're the august foul. He also had what felt like the one
this delay in game, because you had the rim adjustment and then a heat fan passed out court side. So we ve been
We had like an entire second half time.
Guys were able to arrest and, like Jimmy in bam, are able to play forty four and forty five minutes and yoke, which was out for five minutes
fourth quarters like: let's just you,
everything we can to try to make.
At least six game series, but the nuggets are
you got there just they are the
best team in a league this year they are the best
in these playoffs every time
that they have had to answer it. They they ve answered it like their defences,
an incredible this series, that's that's! What's winning it they're deepens has been great and, like the
in their run to the finals, the nothing
are able to
pending on the night, find that, like third guy who helps out
be christian brown and on in game three or air.
Gordon game foreigner. Obviously our gordon's been good
For other reasons, this entire series, but his offense like explode,
the game for and
you didn't need yoke, its yoga chad is statistically worse came. The series is still was was didn't, feel like
The heat ever really had a chance past.
You know like to feel like they. They close it
five point game at halftime time and then
Second, half it: never the nuggets just kept them at a distance, the entire time and they
the better to it's. It's what you can't do any
when that, when, when the nuggets that much better and that much more talented and they
have Michael porter junior, whose make
one shot, Michael porter junior challenge you're still,
still waiting for it here. He has
than anything off. That's really in the nuggets. Still here they ve has ill or thou geisler stepped up to fill michael porters, normal role, which is at third that their banana
and yet no, even though yoke it didn't have
great night offensively, he still had a pretty good night defensively. I think he had three blocks
two seals are two blocks and in three steals so
he made a difference on the other end too, and
it's almost like it's almost like two nuggets have out heat cultured heat culture. In this
there is, to a certain extent
by having those rollers its nuggets culture, that's winning this, and if you like,
like the lakers, if you look at the sun's some other
I wanna be super teams, especially in the west. That's the difference between them
gets and the other teams is that they have Gaza can come in and can actually
Take over game just dominate a game if they have to its superstition.
I that well enjoy more married and have his best game offensively
could say by the numbers. Again have a whole bunch of points he had
it load of assess
didn't have a single turn over on the now either and then
get shot. I think it was seven for twelve, maybe eight for twelve on three pointers attempted off.
his assists. So Jamal Murray, like
shame on me forbidding against tomorrow to get a double double
and game one because
I think he's averaging. Probably eleven assists the game in this series so
turned into a different blurry, is normally not a huge assists guy. But
taking what they give him. And yet this is
He cultures dead,
nuggets. Culture, viva le nuggets culture.
Yeah and draw murray also had a floor burn in game. Three,
his entire palm? Basically, I was ripped off and they show
I would have cried. I probably would have been out for the year.
interview
Jamal Murray, and he says
intolerance use do pain, tolerance, drills when he was a kid
where his dad would balance hot cup of tea on his quads, while he was holding a squad.
Borderline.
Who knows where each other's views, but
I would imagine from worry as a pretty high pain tolerance if he's cut
beverages on his quads
Squatting as a young child
and now, if you are, you know she ever get on Monday night work whenever whatever his dad did absolutely orbits
you could also give credit to god shut out to god for helping the nuggets when this game, because he said
that this is air, gordon. How is played and in these finals in this game specifically, is evidence that he's,
he's dedicating himself to the game right and god recognizes game, and god
is helping air gordon to win this, so I shall god
have to be stopped,
god, not even scott foster can take the big man out out.
altitude, and god, that's a one
punch on your side that that you really can overcome. I
air. Gordon also, I mean we have this reminder all the time in sports and we're still still too stupid to like
turn eliza, reminder and remember about it like arrogant.
Similar to Andrew wiggans last year, time and place like the magic it wasn't
No, it wasn't the best situation. He was still good, but now is surrounded,
it's ton of guys where he can
get the most out of his talent, where he can do. The things that are is best suited to do anything. Please
I urged in these finals, but was still
upon the bomb if he was on the magic, that's yeah he's a duchess was now I realize yeah, sometimes guys they get picked
recruited highly. They get picked highly m a draft. We forget to terror,
really very good: a basketball for the most part, it's very hard
to fool every single sky out
women varying somehow done it, but I did watch this game and my mom last night I asked her for
one take away from the game because she does no ball as as she's demonstrate the best she
yo, catches, erika or yoke yoke, as she calls and
is it. Your hair cut is
positive move for himself, but, more importantly, for the team. She thinks it
team plays but-
now that he's gone. It looks like a number two all around on his head.
more aerodynamic and she thinks that the feeds off that is well so mama,
MR again knows ball.
So excited to see yoke ich with the Larry o brien trophy on top of yours at somewhere in the parade
in that way. They should they should have, and we know that hearing it behind,
That's pulling the entire float. Yes,
no, no, no engines in the pirate world for the for the denver nuggets, but it should be ok. I was always a little scared when it looked like yolk. It's my twisted his ankle in the first half that that to me,
There was a lump yeah it develop in my throat at that time and then
This goes the lock room. Gets it taped up here. He is
horse, because if you was, they would broth tarp out
it's also yoke
turning his ankle, obviously,
you know you don't want to see him injured, but what I mean is vertical is going to go from what like three inches to turn two and a half inches. I feel like
can play with with two rolled. Ankles and studies are desperately his guess. Is it's not like
it's not like. His game is about things on much jump out much. He goes. He goes latterly more than he does. It gets like wider as a game goes on, but he's yeah he's he's tufted came
played. Why do we not do we know what happened with a often because our
to get some jokes off about it during the game and when they brought
stretching out, I was like, maybe
maybe I await off on
on firing. These takes because it looked at
like they were treating her too. She was drunk and helping her to recede
then they wielder off on the stretcher. There are a lot of heat culture. Things I want to say at that point
think she was just hammered. Yeah
yeah she looked hammered. There is also a fan getting escorted out like, while this is all happening by the cops in the lower screen
and we had yoke ich who, like
I loved you and he hatred
fix the rim himself
by just hang on it knees like now. I got this, don't worry, we don't need a delay. I'll, just I'll just put
weight behind this side of the room:
didn't actually work. I have that that boy
I guess I seriously just play like there. The room was definitely tilted mark.
Excuse me
feels like a waste of of game time. Right now. He ate the rims actually till today they should probably fix it mark
Yes, yes, this series yeah, it's not, it won't be
most memorable mba finals, I'd say because the least the last two games you can kind of waiting for the heat to do something and come back and even the series, and they have been
so, but the negotiators that good the nuggets deserve all the credit in the world there they are. Such
The team- and I actually like here, here's a team
came to was actually exactly what the nuggets needed to to do because might blown
talk to win worse about it here,
Ten dorm he was able to get them back.
focus they hadn't loss in a month, and
now. You're, seeing how good their defences, when they're all I'm looking forward to reading the oral history of the team dinner at jeff greenhouse in miami before game, three, that's going
fire. When that we're that's that's everything turned yards.
this negative. They needed to be. They need to be shaken up a little bit at home.
Give michael maloney excuse to dog, cos you for a little bit and then you'll be fine. For the rest, the servers,
do we have any takes on baby grog. I so
our colleague, Karl bauer
tb kb, no swag has actually been on the baby. Gronk beat for about two years now, but
iraq- has reached critical mass this past week. He was on
tmz new york times had opposed on them.
the think feels bad the dead.
it feels it
batteries risen up, everyone he's in everyone's dm there's a quote: he eat this
the power of baby grog and when I say the power baby rock, I mean the power of baby girl.
Dad who is maniacal trying to make
his ten year old ace,
birdy
he said quote: I can reach anybody,
tromp sons, wife follows my son is bigger than people.
Thinking it's only getting bigger. He just
posted on teams eat today is probably
the bigger things on the internet as an influence, or he could be big.
in bronte, Jane yeah, there's going to be putting in the answer. Your question, big cat. Do I have a take on baby gronk? All I know is that baby gronk raised up livy done
and he is he, the new drip king, that's! My robot quota is baby grog new drifting
if those weird, if you're very, very weird
how can a big t about this year? That he's also he's a baby grog efficient. Not are you could say that
stared, belongs in dad Jill. There should be
there should be a dad jail
a general that specifically designed for fathers who are screw
up their children from the world for everybody to see, and this guy
a hundred percent being there because listen
as somebody who was approximately five foot, eight
when I was twelve.
thirteen years old and then didn't grow from their theirs,
chance that baby grog he's not going
be huge, and when it, when the debts,
most sunlike he's gonna, be the face of the inner fell face of god for public. Do he's ten he's ten
was a quote tat. He said with no, but my son baby grog is built different
is committed to this
he's a diet of salmon and brown rice. Like you
dog like basically like
He looks at his son. Like he's siberian huskies. Like a few, I feed my son
raw, a raw meat diet
clearly in remember and little giants.
How long's kid where
it's like, I'm massages, lay out with with catherine milk every single night
to get his leg strong
that's what he's trying to do with baby gronk and it's not going to end well, etc
How can anyone, but he, but to be fair? It is up to be done on a big time
Mr up, you know it's uh, it's the todd, marina vetch, like we watch the whole story, unfolds why this is a bad idea. It's also for
all is the one sport where
probably doesn't matter trying to get like all
skill when
ten years old, because if you're not
big and strong and fast none of it matters. Do you mean like their football, is
a lot of like johnny
x and who you are as an athlete verses like playing me
if being like. All I could. You know I could hit
but when I was two years old like if baby grant isn't big and fast and an entire
enough. It doesn't matter if he's really really good, just like you settling it, it won't matter
His career will will knock
any further than that high school football, because action
how football works. You need to be a certain size to play in the nfl
or high level division one football, but he is
he's gettin scholarship offers from all.
Places. I don't think, that's actually a fact. I think his dad, I am pretty sure,
yeah just buying all the jerseys and helmets and being like baby girl,
loved his visit to purdue and just
they're, probably in their basement, in front of a green screen.
yeah. He is the real king. Right now will say those europe. These are real and then even gave her aside hug. So she went in for the real hug baby grant gave.
down the side so that to me too,
may, he is he's the new dripping.
Offers that he's getting from these schools are
finally, a hundred percent, not true, I do believe it though, unlike like you, offers a baby
born in Louisiana baby ways like fifteen pounds and they
that baby a scholarship offer thick eighteen years from now
I believe it when that happens, but I dont
that baby grog hasn't he offers right now, although I will say James mass university, I would like to offer baby glaucus scholarship to Jamie.
When it could be the sunbelt like what better places
baby grab permanent fund up baby.
Should we son to an end, I l deal part my cheek state be regarding the organs drawing now. I don't really
a feeder. Here's. What I do is right here. I will allow maybe grog to eat part of my chief six.
I'm allowing like giving him, and I like we're. Not shipping and many merge he's not speak.
on behalf of the brand, but
He is he's the only ten euro a ten year old in america who I'm authorizing to eat
constant died of nothing but part of my chief stakes, okay, so baby
on your signed up for an ant I'll deal with with part. My lucky thing in a lot of people are telling you I I was talking about baby grant the other day. I just can't give up get up the fact that he he did in fact result. Livy done
people are saying that baby ground could beat me up that nodded
answer the world. I would beat the shit out of baby grog later there was one on one
me and him in a cage match. I would make him tat
Be so easy, and now I can
up any ten year old in the world any ten year old in the oil different. Now
that's not true
There is definitely no that's not true. Think about me. He was ten wrestling bears like there's some ten years ten year olds, unlike dagestan, that could walk you're, acting like actual
you're old, not not Daniel Monti of ten year olds, any legit ten year old, with birth certificate.
I've seen enough. I know all the tricks, they don't have. The experience when it comes to fighting to haven't seen somebody fight dirty yet so I know I would beat up
ten year over the world
ok last thing before we get to it? It also perfect it we're doing this life episode. When we talk about things that make you feel old, because just a headline baby grant
whizzed up livy down
dare just makes you feel as old as possible, where I think we knew what they were talking about.
But I would imagine there was a lot of people who saw that headliner like what planet and my own did. I get a did
in a coma.
And I just missed like last neighbours have gal chertoff, though, is
I think he's doing it. Satirical thing is a funny guy
and he was like how many titles year jealous you will hear saving.
Baby grant led Alice you to a national title, sound off
the comments from the last thing I
be a like Zion williamsons. Girlfriend might
going too far,
I'm ready for her to stop tweeting cause if you,
like that shaming. At this point she was cheap to post a picture of him lying in bed. She was like a hit
sleeping next year, sweaty ass said that
He just had coke
bottles all over the all over his bathroom. I it's now turn
and where it was like. Always
blast, and now it's like. Ok, let's we get it
the owl zion, maybe cheat on his girlfriend hers, girlfriends girlfriend or whatever is going on here
Let's move on- let's not just let's just
drag him through the mud every single day. For the rest,
the time
don't worry about, I went with it stood out to me, which was your bathroom was filled with soda bottles and cans.
No wonder he fat is fuckin nine shape fuck, you sign williamson,
tired of being nice. You hurt me and humiliated me. That's me,
that's mean to say if a man has has so two bottles and cans bathroom, that's not for you to put out there on blast,
if the women keeping their bathrooms by the way is way weirder than the stuff than than having like. I dunno like a two liter yeah right in your bathroom. That's normal
bear to some of the lotions and face stuff
seven drawers are filled up with different types of beige powders. That's weird! That's
Weird me having.
having a to leader of tab in your bathtub, that's new,
that's just guy stuff, you want. Sometimes you want a nice cold soda when you take a bath or get over yourself
it's also. The very definition of
we think the lady doth protest too much because she's
claiming that she's done his iron, but all she's done for the last four days is just tweet at zion williamson, the entire time she's mad she's big mad about this, yet
there is. There is a reply to that. Tree. Tat was just like we were, and I dont know if this is true, but in this case it is true, it was just
Women are our like suicide bombers, they'll go down, but are taken everyone with them and that debts the alike she's like it's.
left where she's try takedown zion, what she's taking herself down with them like she's waiting for this area of law. This case, like all publicity, is good publicity if your porn star,
so she she recognizes that she's having a moment right now, we're
for you know, she's, not a porn star. She got up
not a porn star. She was a porn star. She has the ports in two thousand. I teach you and others that are on. The right is certainly a lot of videos that she's putting out of herself naked for not being a porn star.
you just retire from it can now might just be only thing he retired, for they give reality. Just hang up the strap on and do not do this again,
its put it in the rafters signed it
time to move on be added. It definitely has a vibe of like hey, maybe maybe
day off of just like completely sewerage zion in the streets every year and we are making here or relate above them, the more that she talks about it because he's very, very clear upset. She had feelings resign, or else we will be doing this, but she
she's just keeps going after his weight and she's
I barely even came
Credit desire that what would a compliment like
if a woman comes out in public trashing of my sites, like
barely even nodded. That's a huge win
in massive dub. Yes, yes,
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here it is a life episode, three with
ryan or so and mark tightest
ok,
it is life episode. Three we have
ryan resell mark Titus, mark Titus show.
I'm a soul. Show
two huge narcissistic name, their shows after themselves.
Ah
we're we're remote this time we will do another one of us together.
I'm running out of kids by the way, I'm done with kid, so the one of you guys going have to step up for
next one party
care. How do you handicap that raised in as you like?
the three of us, was the first of us three,
again, I can see
we have to do and have as a bit
I think it's very funny Titus. I think you are definitely like. You will have kids.
you're, so always is like. I will
be shocked if just one day he call me like hey, so I'm having a kid like
decided? I want to have a kid was got Chris Paul,
yeah, that's true, which we haven't
Are you ryan all players?
we ve, given you your space. Do you want to before
talk some other stuff there. It is
the sixty one
Chris Paul blog, that amity play off losses. Yes, that's cool! It's about his grandfather, the
oh god, oh yeah, that's right where he made the final foul shot for him. I remember that yeah! Ok! Now, if you like it as a funny joke, though, what a joke about the playoffs now, that's good, actually we're taping the show, because my dad died, ryan and so we're going to I'm going to be going to his memorial service when this airs. So a bet, you feel bad for making fun of me for making fun of you, but don't fuck one.
Where do you go home right now.
it almost worse, ryan that we haven't had you on the show to bring you back Chris. It's it's it's that sad now were we
bad, often gone right. Now, you guys are just
political zealots on twitter like if, if trump fell, you know it is the people free
out and bind falls and acknowledge, actually not that bad.
It could be the other way around if somebody defended trump I'd be like no. It was that bad he's super coordinated. Have you seen his golf swing but, like Chris Paul approved the phoenix suns needed Chris Paul? So the new didn't have me up. So I knew exactly what you're doing you guys are frauds when it comes to the
but its right to be away. They went we're locked start outta there,
they want to games with Chris Paul in online upright and any got injured, and then they lost arrest the games? What how better other shake out? Why
is cause booker and Kevin rent both turned into Michael Jordan. At the same time, so
I think when it all was said and done it was. They really could have used his playmaking an escape valve and some good decision making all that kind of stuff, but that's
now get it. I get it yeah we're running out of time with Chris Paul d feel that no it that's true,
are we all running on the top, but two big cancer is one point I would I would say, Titus I think Titus might be annexed to become a dead just cause. You probably a very I've. Let experiment I
I think between the three of us. I probably one of the most too, but I don't have that works in my favour or not, I don't know, does I died.
I want to be a father like I definitively wanna have kids
and it's something that I think like I need like. I think, like the older, I get the more I'm like I've. I feel like I've, kind of done,
I've done all I there is for me to do, and it's like a need to now be a father and, like you know, try to live
I can't I guess, or whatever like internet
next phase of my life,
but at the same time I have I have the thing where, like I don't want to do until I'm ready, and I also know that I will never ever be ready, say I really like I'm gonna, be like in my sixties, and I look around
okay, now I'm ready
and whoever my wife is, will be like fifty age will be like yeah, so of how we can euro sara. I
The interest I do think ryan is speaking good bet just because he
he does obviously life advice on his shoulder. Phenomenal
episode in there is one where he went on
a long tangent about a kid playing in the sand. With his dad
unlike
the whole time I do this. Is you
On a kid you gotta have a kiss, I think if you just sees one more kid pointing in the sand with his dad he's going
Despite the surrogate me like I'm a dad now,
kidnaps? The kid takes a kid from the beach. How about that? It's really weird, though, because people don't like guys like me just hanging out at playgrounds yeah. That was like no.
just love watch and kids playing sandboxes. It's not a big deal as their escorting. You away. Do you think you'll be a dad Brian. I think you will
I don't know I mean, I think I
who does.
Look. I really actually like kids, you know, like my sister, to set a baby girl last week and she faced tie me and the baby did not stop.
For twenty three minutes but the lesson- and that is that I stayed on the face time for twenty minutes, even though a kind of sad because I was like I just
I think, being the oldest of five. I I
it a little bit more than you know. I know no one understands what it means to be a parent. I got it. I've seen your posts, but ah
It doesn't like none of that ever bothered me like I. I knew what it would be. I knew what the sacrifice it would be, a new kind of all that stuff, I guess kind of otitis. This point like it's a stupid thing to wait around and say I don't want to do it until I am ready cause you're, never really ready. You just sort of do it and there's,
if the things in life that you're just not ready for, and it's like well, who cares you have this opportunity to go ahead and do it, but in this case you're actually fucking with another person, as opposed to maybe taking a job before you're ready for it op
I know for a fact for me: it was like a camera to get all these things in place, I'm to be like it.
Turn key house that you buy? Everything's gonna be turnkey and there's no such thing as that turkey think so then we can,
ten years went by so yeah we're gonna get down. Do I definitely should be last out of a group.
I should be last, but I
I dont entirely rule rule out, I'm not the same age as pacino.
well when I saw that I was like yeah. I just think that's a disservice to the kid like hey. What was my dad like? No, it's in the kid is: what does pacino eighty two, eighty two deniro, seventy nine, seventy nine! You basically are having a kid. Where
guaranteeing that the moment the kid is aware of life and death. That's when you'll die,
like your it's, not even like it's not even you'll die when the kids three in it like. I never really knew my dad know that it will be like eight and the like.
like my dad's, my superhero, I
stand that he's old and then you guys.
yes, I remember the college that
it's the weekend where we all get there like three days before everybody else that freshmen thing I mean it that is like being born all over again right. You just dropped into it and the
You'd see somebody be like due to sack guys grandfather, helping a move into his door room, and then he built it now. That's his dad like
gino it's gonna, be a hundred tat now
that such a messed up thing that biology does where, where women stop having babies, probably what day fertility
for non about forty five year
but men you can. You can get some pregnant when you're like a hundred and ten years old assets,
dupe one ten would be all but like a magic but chino with a couple mill crates walkin behind a guy like ninety gaff
It is also. It also is crazy, like how seriously when my first small nice,
was born. My wife is
before
and in new york city. The doktor Larry was like
yeah. How do you like thirty four to end the doctors like oh teen, mom, because
because the city is like,
like what already bores they'll young in new york city. You see it
people having kids like forty one kid and be, unlike our.
That's it.
What did it were incredible material from that dog has pretty covered with himself in his practice, though he was shooting he was. He was feeling himself the
the opposite, is obviously true and middle America were everyone's is pump in our kids and get married in their twenties, and
if you're like in your thirties and you're single with no kids. That's part of why I moved to l a was like I sort of started feeling out of place when you go
all your friends house, and they have like three kids run around in here you don't. I
funny enough. Talking about being that, I had a house in ohio. I looked in the suburbs,
because
I don't I'm an idiot, I don't know like I'd I'd. I'd did the key
which thing I wondered own house. I wondered yard.
he's gonna want of like fast forward to the point of my life and my my parents,
you know- and I was like
my book and I made a decent amount of money from that and I was like you know what fuck it
five years old thing, everybody bother
at five years old- I'm just going to buy a house in the suburbs, I'm going to do it and and so
along the way I decided that I wanted to like. I. I live next door to a guy who him and his wife were adopted, a bunch of kids and they had like four kids that they had adopted and they were.
re people, and
I became lake
it definitely sounds creepy the way I say it, but I would like the neighbourhood like uncle. Almost all the kids would like dislike
There will be kids like knocking on my door that wanted to go tp their friends' houses, but their parents won't let them so they're like when you go, buy us toilet paper and like yes, absolutely I will, and I would go buy them to lever up
along the along that path. Longer journey. At one point I looked up and I saw an empty house.
I knew my neighbors said adopted these kids. I went, I asked them about it and I was like hey
if I'm ready for this. But like I think I want to be a dad and I I might like look into adopting a kid, and he just immediately is like yeah, no fucking chance, dude you're, a single dude living in a house. It's like there's no world in which they're going to let your kids or you'd said that the dream died, and I was like okay cool all right number of friends over a cup of japanese friends around at the time, but that was like, as I got to like thirty years old, and I was looking around- I was like I dunno what's next for me like, should I try to
you're dead. I don't really know like so I asked this guy like. Should I adopt a kid? He was like fuck, no they're not going to let you adopt a kid as a
a single man. Are you? Are you nuts once you get so you can kill the kid or have sex with it? What what were you going to like say your qualifications were for adopting the child? If you were to go talk to them, be like
monsieur jump shot
Secondly, how can I can make this kid into an mba where I didn't really like this? I felt like it was a
I dunno, I just have a look at identity crisis. I guess because I didn't really feel like I wanted to do it. It just felt like a social responsibility. Almost like I had this huge house and wasn't that
rose like I had like four bedrooms. You know not to brag, but was also
No, no, it's was it because our neighbor was neighbor running up the score in terms of karma point. I d have guy our like the best person on earth friday hit. Naturally they adopted for kids from from struck.
families, and then you like, I, I should do something like
I looked into, I asked them through about like fostering kids I was like. Is there a way like we don't make this permanent? Like you said, you thought you thought as a single guy in your late twenties, you will pass any of the screening of this. I said yeah I did I did. I won't because I didn't say you you you're legitimately, looking into adopting a buddy,
now this was because it would mean a movie right around the time that black email- if not I I love you man is it it was,
It worries
I know I've known I've known what I knew I wanted to be a dad.
boy? I
I I basically hit the fast for button on life too fast, like I basically and it's gonna foreigners. I look back on it like I live my thirties and my twenties
and the now as I moved Ella unlike him, they might thirties actually feel like I'm living like a twenty lifestyle. Here more
but I I wanted to like fast forward my life. I think I think I was just like. I got a fucking house everywhere. I look like all the other dudes in the neighborhood were just talking about their kids and like kind of like that, was like kind of what the
my point that the whole reason I brought this up was to speak to like the societal differences of the coasts. Vs the middle america, where, like I just felt like a pressure.
There are also a single due to the house, and I think I am
can we are now in this neighborhood
to change that
this role not gonna, run dabbled dabbled with the idea of like do I need a kid, is ever do and then ultimately
common sense prevailed and I was like nah. I just need to sell my house and move to los angeles. This is actually a good, a good jumping off point because it was actually
thing there was Ass a lot and I would say, like to wrap up.
This conversation is what ryan said or yet rhine said, like ease, Keaton
Will I be ready?
I want to give her. Are it just you know,
Sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet and also
people who are like you know
the past is the best. It is the best put its also fuckin hard and it's a lot of work in any
who does a social media being like the only
one times like they're just lying to themselves.
I honestly think that a lot of people are scared off of having kids. Because of how many
people say like so a lot
friends and I'm not taking you back as you ve, never said this three, but a lot of
friends are always talking about like how hard it is.
And we hear and because I think, if you're, if you're a person that doesn't have kids,
You hang out with someone who has a family,
their escape time from their Pham right, so they unload-
bad stuff, all the stress on to you and then that
I you not want to have kids radical disciple. This person is just miserable. Very
the time so
sometimes the other side
kicks and where it's not like, I dont think of having a key.
Is being like nothing but great time.
But I've seen more of my friends who are just like unloading on me: yeah all their stress, but
it'll have it'll happen. It happens for all of us. Nobody doesn't that's cool
and I would say, for people who, like your hearing, the worst whenever someone says like all it's the war, it's never one way or the it's never the best like all the time.
It's never the worst all the time. It's
basically having kids is essentially you every day your waking up with
a person who has a personality change overnight and you dont know if one day there,
The sweetest cater one day there and want to hit you in the knots, so it's just
it's more like just you.
I just I'd, say
dad you roll with the punches better than you ever have in your life like it. Just
it's all, just like one song, it is,
my god it's alright, like today's
tomorrow's me great today, my daughter did they
Small should do that, like just all one song, all rules together.
Yeah. I don't know you want to do this as if we're transitioning this a little bit later on, but just because
I know I'm the oldest one of the group now, which was weird cause. I think we brought this up before, like I was always the youngest of the group, and now I'm just like oh you're, the oldest of the group, you just are ah by sometimes
pretty staggering gap, but
and we get life advice, eating house. We get likewise emails all the time where bilbil
Dude, like twenties, maybe he's even late thirty's any goes. You know
I could get gauge I've been with this girl for a long time you get along, but like you can tell they just stop having sex like this. There's less passion in the email than there is in the relationship right because the guy
I kind of opening up to us, the email being like. I don't really know what I should do. I guess you get married, I guess it could advocate. I guess I could do these different things and then there's
but the audience at all even have your close friends. I'll have casual friends, don't worry guy
you know either the email will say. Should I pull a or
The friend would like I had a friend reach out going you're, the only one that didn't buy into the lie, and, unlike what are you talking? Like my house socks, my wife doesn't talk to me. The kids are a fuckin massing like by the way
I don't know anybody that she be selling the idea that having kids disease right because it because it just isn't in its actually the most selfless thing that you can do. You know I would feel like I'm speaking for myself, that nobody else, because you know
It has their own reasons behind it, but, like I feel incredibly selfish in a way that sometimes I have a hard time thinking about. But are you actually going to be this selfish selfish about it? When so many people will
herself listen brought another life into the world, always do good things, but then people see me go alike.
hey, maybe I could do that and I'm like do you think this is the answer all the time programs like my college or make
what are my college. Roommates came by
came to the house, and you guys have been here he's out the balconies looking at the water and he's goin
So what are you gonna do today and I was like
because you're gonna do literally whatever the fuck you walk right.
as a gap pretty much like- I probably play hoops- you know
like I don't know, either some on little bit later tonight as like he does, but you could go golf right now. They act like a click. Thirty six, if I wanted,
They can? You have about the guy up
is it. Where is it? I was like it's right over. There is like ten minutes waste, so you could just get on the boat and I was like
just get on the boat and he was like the most depressed I've ever seen. Us like looked around
Do you want a drink or something like naugatuck go home. I gotta go home
I got it as it. What did you think I did hear and he's like? I just
didn't, really get it until I came to the house and then saw- and he was
upset he was. He was like physically
emotionally rattled from the hole.
Sperience that I was here
gonna leave and I was gonna be able do whatever I want it. So I think what happens is sometimes I don't feel like. I sell this as like
The answer to everything. Zol admit
You know a dsp was still ninety five, german and whatever else I was doing.
Now that I live here already go anywhere. Rightly guy
the most social I've been in a month was, I said, hello to three people the german hour ago, so
when there's people wondering, which is a very common lesson in this. It's not specific to what I'm talking about, but the grass always being greener yeah like there's a lot of dudes that look at my ideal and be like that's actually, maybe what I should have done like. Yes, the grass is greener.
I am doing it and I'm telling you it's not for everyone. I would advise against it and it actually is pretty selfish. It's a it's a it's a
point two, because so one of the first questions that we had
that someone wrote in was basically like. Ah I'm comin up first year,
a big boy job after college. She hates it. He can't see himself doing it,
thirty to forty years he's happy.
Life outside work, but doesn't love his work in all this stuff is right out of college,
and its similar what you just said in terms of I think, there's
I really do want to sound like super old, but I do think social media has fucked everyone up where
just always,
think that someone is always having way more fun than you
and everyone's is living their life and being able to say like what I have
pretty damn good and not always
putting yourself up against your co worker
your friends people you on instagram. If you can do
its liberated.
I would say my favorite. My favorite thing about her is that everybody is convinced and others
there's no way between whatsoever? Everybody is convinced that you are depressed and living like a miserable life alone and you're like a recluse, and you hate everything about yourself,
or that you had lived the sickest vulcan life ever in their social labour jealous leg.
I would love to beers and everybody is convinced of lake
and they're all looking at it through their own lives, how they approach their life and the like see like I have buddies that will argue about it. They're, like I dunno man, I dunno how he does it like he's alone. It's so much like you do you
the guy just sits there and watches random s. N b, a games like go out and fucking live your life man and then other my other buddies. Like all the things you said, he's got a boat dude. He lives in manhattan beach and he's around guys, gotta, either worthless or he's got it all figured out, yeah there's no in between there's. Nobody like you know, I'm sure, he's figured out a good balance in his life, and I bet at times it's not as fun and other times it just there's, no one. It's always like this is the most sick thing ever this. I love the idea that the phrase pulled over scylla could mean two completely opposite things: yeah, it's like Aloha means I end by yeah yeah, because, like there there are times like I'm, okay with it like, I know what I signed up for, but, like everybody, that loves having their family loves coming home, especially the kids are at the age before they just decide to automatically.
I hate you once they get to those years and then it sort of sucks, because then they have to go through their own shit and realize like how great of a dad you may have been right. It's all very.
Little bit
those younger moments when you come home and you had your bad day in your kid loves you no matter. What is so fired at to do something with you
there's, not really anything that you can do to replace that by not having
by not having a kid. But you know when I
when I think about like
people going
research. Has it all figured out,
they all admit like there's. There's a woman at the gym right now right. She wears literally nothing and she's, probably almost sixty but she's in,
the good shape right ever
their dude would like a fool head.
Gray, gray, hair like ten years older than me,
You know or no hair whatever it the guy.
I don't have a wedding ring.
they all hit honour. All the time.
I am not attracted to her away.
little surprise. She wears as little clothing ass. She does still looks pretty good
to me she's, incredibly, all,
But when I see all these old dues lining up the hit honour I'll be like
it's going be you do, or if I see an old guy like having dinner by himself at a bar
bitching about the dodgers and no one fuckin cares and then he tells a story about oral hirsch. Iser like running a cabin near a light.
gonna, be you dear, so I fuck with myself regular
a kind of laugh more than I do get like.
if I got really bummed out about this lifestyle, I'm not telling you I'm like peak happiness every single day. That's just the way! I am it doesn't matter what the fuck I was doing alright, but if I was
that bummed out about my deal. I would have changed it by right and allow it was more about it was that was more about connecticut connecticut towards yet I go
but I've joked about this a bit cannot sit the basement and count how many days in a row I did that deal and I got.
I think I, the records were fifty nine straight days or sixty one straight days in the basement, where I ate down in the basement. Watch basketball in the back then too. I would just east coast go to bed earlier, so whatever,
That was something I had to break. I was like we need to move on from this, because this isn't working out so even look the worst day in Manhattan. Beach, like I'm, not gonna. Fuckin complain about anything here, sir
So to that question and run you kind hit on this a little bit where he's talking about hating his job and say,
Ok, my life is good outside of my job one here I'll call you, when you're out of college, like my my my life, might be ok with you,
which was? I just graduated college recently
move to manhattan, know hey guys long time, lesser of your pods coming up on my first big boy, job at a call yeah, so he kind of hates it, but his life is okay outside of work. I would say that
if your job is so bad that its affecting your happy.
Its bleeding over into your outside life
pretty good indication. Yes, I'm one, but a lot of people are happy
personal lives at a job that they're not in love with right
and that's that's, ok, and I also think- and this goes for
I hate like giving advice, because everyone's gonna live their own life pot when
forty three year dumb and I think
how dumb? I was an thinking like. Oh,
I hate my job and then you look back you like what wasn't that bad, because in
get more. You know you you, you do other things and you get more jobs. You realize like the twenty three you just don't know. So,
you also, you also fall into the trap of think everything's permanent right. I think that this job, you have a twenty three when you say like this, is what I'm gonna be doing for the next thirty forty fifty years. That's not what
be done. You know, like you, might hate this job, but late
even if you stated that company- I again it maybe I'm off based, but
speed generalities
you're gonna, like move up you're gonna progressed you're gonna find like different avenues, indifferent job.
we're like. Suddenly, you unlock like a level of your knowledge, middle management at your job and like you're, like our don't, really hate this anymore, and this is actually I'm worse.
For this,
We are the idea of like the first job you take
most four shots everybody takes sucking right, that's like take part of the corporate world is likely
When your fresh out of college,
if the shittiest jobs- and you know why you get the shittiest jobs cause you're new at this, and the people that are been around for awhile have earned the right to move on
what's next
We I agree with you as you like, sometimes
like as long as it's not bleeding over into your personal life and like making you miserable in that aspect, sometimes like your job is a job and you just do it to to make the money. So you can go, enjoy your life and I think too,
point big earlier about, like social media gonna ruin a lot of people
with work.
I feel like a lot of people, think that, like their job should be their identity and that you have to wait
I have a job you love or you have to like. You know, cause cause. All of us do a job that we we we'd. Probably we would just not always that great
in the world, but we cannot have an easy job
now, and we love it's the best job ever it's a great gig. So I think there's like a pressure, if you, if you observe, like people
on social media too much that you're like
I need to do a job that I love do something you love and indeed all the work any
if your life right all that sort of thing,
but sometimes it's like man just punch, the fucking clock, get the money go home and like just cut it off and go enjoy your life.
And other I wouldn't recommend doing over for forty years, but like in this little phaser in fresh out of college as you
figure, should out in your dumb ass as big cat said. That's that
What I would say is like this isn't permanent. Yes, like part of the transition period of your life in fresh out of college, it's like
it's even less about what you're doing per se is more about like who
Do you have someone who's teaching you? Well, you have like a boss whose, like being a mentor, that's way more important than like yeah learning. Actually,
Oh I'm, I'm, you know figuring out.
skill in this provide like some.
Teach you life lessons, everything and also
what you're saying mark like our jobs are the best jobs the world. I think we all,
degree. We have the best job in the world, but if you hit
It is with true serum. We
give you a list of things. We don't like about our job, because every single job has
things so
I would say to someone like that like make
list of what the negatives are and ask yourself
is this a negative, because it's this specific job,
or is it something that I'll probably find to be negative about work in general?
yeah. I yeah right exactly. I would also say that it's it's important if you have a job that you think socks, it's important to have a job that sucks
you're good at because then
can take pride in whatever it is you do like. I would much rather be good at my shitty job then be
awful at which some people would say would be a good job. Yeah yeah feeling accomplished.
it takes over the sting out of like that that feeling that you get sometimes when you come home from work and you think you're
What did I just? What did I do all day yeah and that's when it starts to bleed over when you act
they don't care in an eight. It is affecting your at home life. If you're,
good at your job, then
you have a sense of commerce when you feel some private. What you did you feel like that days, not wasted so
yeah, most twenty three year old.
if you have a job that you're good at that pays
enough for you to live and get by
that's really all you can expect when you're twenty three you're not going to own the world and we're not going to step into the job that you're going to have for forty years. Your career is going to take
This, in turn, will change companies your pro.
Change your interests. You might even pick up like a completely
front line of work along the way
nobody says that a job for forty years anymore, maybe are our parents- might have
probably the last generation, to do that, I would be
surprised if, if that becomes a thing that,
ever happens again where somebody gets into the
to the mailroom after college and they worked away up to be ceo,
Just that's not the way that people do business anymore, also,
right. When did you one was your first radio cake.
First on air. Gig was two thousand too, with the trend for how old are you? You know, I I I was twenty six seconds jobless, twenty six
our twenty seven. That summer I didn't even make it. I think I made until twenty seven has gone, half a decision,
I ask that I ask because, like I didn't start doing this,
twenty seven twenty eight same with phd same with you mark
yet a little different because wrote a book not to brag pot,
I do think there's that automatic feeling of when you
how does that kid? By that? How when you first graduate colleges of feeling like its permanent- and it really isn't like your twenties- are the perfect time to fuck up.
figure out what you like to figure out like
hey, I can transition. If I don't like this, I can do this and ate it really
nothing is permanent in your twenties. It really is time where you can make mistakes and, unlike
I wasting a year and a job, you don't love or two years. You still get something out of it, and
you'll find out what you like him, what you dont like,
yeah. I mean that the whole hey I got out of school and I have questions about this job. Welcome to fuckin, light rail, okay, so
big cat nailed it
if we wanted to do two hours and what we didn't like about awesome jobs that we all have been lucky enough to have done as well as you ve done. We could
for two hours. It'd, probably be one of my favorite parts of Heaven, yeah, that's just life and the weird thing about that lane, and this actually speaks like Titus a little bit like you. You get the book money
you're here, you'll get a little shy at a very early age and then
Think like I want the picket fence. I want all these things in your condition to think immediately after this phase your life, we having fun, you play college sports. I have
I have to be a grown up like I think I know you a little bit that I
see. You retroactively being like time to draw. I had a really good friend who
was a year ahead of me. You ve em. He got it
aging job stayed
in town, he was
twenty two years old dude and I was twenty one and I was like hey. Let's hang out we're going
friday he's like
do that anymore. He was twenty two, the haze do that any of our yes, that's right! That's basically what I did. Yes, he
his innate. He was in. You are, for whatever reason, I'm not even nugget. You were in a hurry to get to that next phase, like mentally of where you were supposed to be at, I would advise against it. I also was not in a hurry. I prolonged it. I stayed there a lot longer, but the problem
with this stage, your life,
and you may not even listen to me right now. Young twenties mid twenties or whatever, because I dunno that I would listen to somebody who was in his forties it'd, be like the fucking guys talking about
gills and has a boat. In fact, no family like fuck him.
I didn't want to listen to anybody and another is capable listing anybody. But the point is you right now, nearly twice
you have no other frame of reference
if you haven't lived through anything else, oh no way, shit is an awesome all the time
you just wait for you. What pamphlets were you ready? Then? It is also fucked up there. You go from for all
people their college experience for years of like
greatest, like it's basically disneyland for aid
it's. Why did you let us I'm on my right and it's it's those those those years there in the years after I'm telling you like I'll drive around a song will come on.
I'll think about a mona.
And I get like we're like god, you still miss this so much, and so you know, despite whether or not you know before college, if you had a tough,
deal at home. You know there's plenty of adversity, tat we nameless, but for a lot of people that first, like
hey. This is infernal. Try there should be a what would you think of ass? It should be a highway home for people that are getting out of college transition and, moreover, I think that there is
margarets eyes move my mom into like a senior living facility about a month and a half ago
and she loves it in place- kicks ass obvious with you, it's got
Restaurants, it's got bars
always hanging out with each other playing card game shuffle board.
around their having a great time. There
to be more of that type of facility just for normal.
Like especially yeah well especially right out of college, like give me a place where it's basically my dorm again and you
we accompany even runs it
and then they give you shitty jobs at this company you live.
On their giant campus and they provide everything else for you. I think our theirs,
There's a business model out there. If there a
dust real ceo, that that feels like this good
We could do some swirled, the the reason that would be valuable if I can defend twenty two year old me for a second at which I'm not really sure I I I care too. It feels like a completely different person, but also hard to offend. You never got off the court. Ah,
How can you on the core
led to me writing a book. That's true, four bedroom house, almost a kid or an almost almost a kid. If only what's, what's that on zillow right now, do you ever double check it? I have. It has gone up in value and that'll that'll kill you
but I think what one of those so guys did between
when you graduate college and when you're about thirty, I find that to be the period of time where most men seem to have these, like that. I experience when dudes are like reaching out to me and for what
reason I don't know like they're, saying
like you know, you struggle with mental health. You struggle with this. Can you help me they always
to be in that age range, and I I think
just based on my experience, part of why it's always a guys at age is because
up until you graduate college. You have such a structure in your life, young people telling you where to go and what to do and when to do it. And yes, when you're ecology party in you
you know you let loose a little baby. Still you have to show,
but the atm class every so often or else you get kicked out, then all the fun goes away.
still have these structures and then, when you
spit onto the world, I feel it your two types of people and there's the
type of person, it's like
fucking god. I have no hear us now. I gotta be my own. I get a live. My life. Do I wanna go
go broad. Do I wanna go like I can go, do whatever I want, I can move any city I want. I can t
never job. I want. If I don't like that job I can quit and something
feel the sense of freedom with that
felt, the exact opposite would
why I think it twenty two years old I was such an. I was in such a hurry to build some structure which has lake. I need
I need to grow up, I need to grow up, because I need
the societal benchmarks to dictate like where I need to go, because if I don't have that, I'm going to be lost at sea just wandering trying to figure out what the fuck I'm doing with my life and
rushed into it. For that reason,
That's what I think like there too,
the types of people and I think the people that are more like me- are the ones that freak out because they're like oh shit. Now, what do I do right now? I have nobody to tell me where to go and you panic a little bit
yeah. It also couple things one:
everyone's freaking out it to themselves
you I mean like that's the that that is also part of it is like that cars
figured out. I guarantee you that guy's, probably sittin there freaking out for some other reason. Like the above
it's good to ride out. It means you want something. It means you holding yourself to a standard so piano and I'm glad you get it. It's just like it's a feeling that everyone else has their shit together and you don't
everyone else's walking around. Looking at you,
thinking the same thing in that. Just did you
The remind yourself of that simple fact. That's all
do, but it really is the truth.
that everyone is is dealing with their own shit. Freaking out doesn't
some part of their job, doesn't like some part of their relationship where they live with
everyone has. No one has the perfect wife, and even if that
so does exist. There are fraud.
Is there there basely gary v and their fuckin,
I'll tell him every one to go to their there.
For every year in and pay a hundred bucks houses, shouted Gary, be, and I think denizens examples are and he's got it. I like carried on yet there to. Anyone who says that their life is perfect is is, is lying to you on social media or like that, that guy that thought he was able to
in time, we like each days we got, let's stop watching their hearts. Like I watch as somebody, there
you know is now successful and I see those duties I
tell you how hard I laugh being like you guys are so full of shit. You just did
It doesn't work that way like I
I'm glad you brought up kind of that that, beginning time and again, I still think the frame of reference, because you don't have like when your your thirties, you compare to your twenties or your forties compared to other decades. You know you're in college, you're a fucking kid with the
their utility bill now and you're supposedly in adult, because you your names on a utility in it, it isn't, it isn't true
and so all the uncertainty, all the
all the stuff that happens, that cocktail of lack of confidence you're right to point out
that it's normal, and I also think like when you're. In that early phase, I had a long list of all the things I didn't want to do,
I didn't know what I did want to do
thing is ever happened for me in my life, whether it's the beginning weather,
getting the yes pen, whether its leaving s espn, whether its being an ally in pursuing all the other things is that the hardest,
it is doing all the work that shows no results for you ass right, so
If your twenty five in your at some job, you ve been there right out of college in your like I'm not sure this is me. First thing is no problem. As its title said, Anne pfc, like
It isn't even just our parents generation is last generation like most.
Friends, have moved in adapted,
whatever happened with business, especially the guys in the financial side. It always feel like they have the kind of state one step ahead of it sometimes does work out for, but if you're in it,
but we are going out. This isn't for me. Ok, cool water
you doing too
pair yourself for that transition. Instead of being at a point words, it's forced yeah, and that's it
The thing you always that
things I think is really lacking for anybody like alright, you don't like your deal. Ok, what are you doing? What
doing in your spare time too.
parry yourself for having options when you're deal
becomes untenable, like you cannot show to work any more, we get emails autumn. All I get this,
my stomach when I walk it. When I,
I turned the corner and walk into a bar that I was still at that my friends are coming back up to for our fifty reunion. I was going to be behind the fucking bar at my own fifth year reunion. My stomach
so fucking bad, and I was like,
I can't do this anymore. I can and I had
feel that way before,
to actually motivate myself to go. What little things are you doing in your spare time to get you ready?
the change that you know you want to have- and I think for so many people- it's hard to do all the shit that feels worthless and isn't going anywhere, because it's paying zero returns
but I'll tell you what its way worst, who have not done any of the half a gazelle returns
and then be like. Oh my god, I'm out of work on friday or I need to quit, and I have no backup. Yes, that's it. That's a very good point, because the original question, where their talk about how they hate their job and let them I feel like you're, wasting their time at it. There might be
of your job that you're doing a very, very important for whenever
that you actually want to take next.
or, as ryan said in the giant I'll have to tell your story again because, like what weren't you selling siding or something. But you were also like thinking about all the stuff that you wanted to do right or it was used. So I mean I've seen a lot of things. I sold portable air conditioners
the water heaters you
dogs used cars for awhile. Does my first job knowledge christmas tree? They killed, sold pagers users. He says stuck around in that industry.
as a young drug dealers. All the time
he's still got stock options, the eyes, god he's what those cricket wireless trust, fund. Kids, I
I've sold a lot of things. It did teach me about human interaction daryl.
parts of it that I hated
actually most of it. I hated, but you do learn small
a personal skills. You learn how to break ice with people pretty easily
and there are certain things that you pick up either
from a shitty job. They
who can then transferred to whatever it is. You want to end up doing or
ryan was saying. If, if you're working, if you're behind a bar, you might
like oh shit, everyone's judging me, because I'm working you know in our
our small town bar
I haven't gone anywhere
you're. Taking steps outside that towards would over the future goal. Is
then your job is not to waste time at all, because its
it's an investment,
allowing you to pursue what it is you want pursued five, ten twenty
years from now, so just
you feel like you're wasting time there
things that you can be doing to make a job that feels a waste of time
So we really good investment in in whatever it is. You want a plan down there. It's it's! It's back to Titus this point where your college, their structure and like ok, you you take the class, you take the test, you get a great
in jobs like you might get one year review, but there's a lot of
is it your learning that
realize you're, learning until way after you're, like oh shit, that was actually pretty employee.
It's like who I am as a person now and it's
because there are times government,
or shall I was getting paid? Thirty thousand dollars, and I went by four
raise after the first full year. I had already
rented an apartment. With all my bodies, sick place,
way over my budget cause. I was like I'm going to get a sick race, my race was:
fifteen hundred dollars-
and I was just like we did a good job, but my paycheck, it was so low and it's like put
It just cause like alright. Yet because guess what times are shitty right now doesn't mean you like just because you
four year doesn't mean you,
at some huge raise your just give it to you, but
things you learn along the way like become
part of who you are. I also for the for the guys who were talking to the other piece of it.
so give is when you are in your twenties work work here.
Work long hours and party long hours.
Because you will get to a point where you can't
physically. Do it like, I think, about
even the start of the show and when pft and I were both
thirty years old, like still in night, that, like it, was just every
waking minute, we were just pushing his head.
as we possibly could-
if you ask started again right now, a thirty eight we wouldn't
that same ability just just
pure, like energy level.
Just no shows in the episode just know that, like
we do have. We were doing life advice for the fourth year in a row or third time for you're the you're, the best idea that we have that's how much we're coast, but you will at that moment and we'll have that moment where you're like shit, I don't I Don'T- have the the gas in the tank to do everything
want to do as hard as I was able to do it? So do it very-
You everything really hard when you're twenty yeah. I grew that wit wit when I was spending my wheels at it at a job that I knew was not my future, the biggest
I regret that I would ever have at that. Job would be when I go back to work on that monday afterwards, and I have
done anything over the weekend to progress myself towards. Why
I ultimately wanted to do
So, yes, I definitely partied a lot had a great time in my early twenties.
enjoyed the hell out of those, but
I always made sure that there were some time that I was setting aside
actually do some work. That would help me on the long term, because otherwise you get back.
A job that you might hate
on Monday and you like well
made zero progress whatsoever.
To me was all that was the biggest wasted time that felt like
would send me back mentally and then I would get into a ball of
press anxiety and, and back in that position of,
Oh, I'm never going to get where I want to be so
Have some discipline
party hard work, hard
but also you have to set aside rate
that's actually do the biggest thing that I took from my
the twenties is, if you write down
your goal, is what you want to do and the steps it yet.
Two accomplishment to accomplish it. He sailed
I've got to spend two hours writing on Saturday write that down a piece of paper, and then you get it
that off on saturday, which is again,
feeling and
crossing anything off. The list on ass feels good,
I write method worry
he has a list every morning. It's like drink coffee, yet on
I completely agree with the idea that one could, like you know what
for stages I was going through and then I got to like really not liking myself face, because I was just so fucking pissed at myself all the time and
thank god. I was but thank god
Wasn't cooled myself here it is.
good, that I was mad. I looked back I'm I. I appreciate that anger cause. It was motivating me to be like. Are you fucking series going to be one of these guys like? Is this what you're gonna do? This is like the path like there's no
You can't be forty and go in all what happened, because these
moments. Right now that are defining those moments, and I would do the same thing we're like every week I had to have done five things downwarp,
to give myself options later on and five things became, give. It
one full day were from whatever.
four hours. You're at your apartment, all you're doing is working on this stuff and some days,
actually most days were pointless. There was almost.
A return on a lot of those investments, but then there,
Is that what? And if you don't?
now the fishing that like, if you don't, have any lines in the water, I can guarantee nothing's going to happen for you at the adjust, the the
de of potential hope was enough to drive,
so, if you're sitting around bitching about your plot life and you're younger and you're like oh well, what about this? What about this, then? That simple question immediately is like. Are you doing literally anything to improve?
situation. Are you hit not a friend whose working in industry that you, like you, maybe
call them shoe. I mean
honestly, I signed up for an email service. This is like again like
early internet days, I signed up for some stupid
alert that was giving me classified job links,
if that had anything to do with sports. Honestly, the whole site was a complete scam and a rip off, but by signing up for it,
I was like our right did something
yeah. I did something today and
you know the jar part of it, as I shall finish this bar real quick.
landing your dream girl in your early twenties.
The likelihood isn't going to happen, there are rarities.
But leaning. Her isn't gonna happen, probably because you aren't ready, she might be ready, is usually there more mature than us at that stage.
the job thing is the same deal like you may have for five jobs out of college all suck, but what the reward will be
will be now. You truly know what it is that you like to do. Maybe you'd like to be in the office. Maybe you don't. Maybe ok actually like to do this. I like to get on the road I don't like being on the road, all these different experiences and
I just think the earth such a last stage at that point of your life, because you're like wait, is this yet and you're like well? No it this it yes and no's, like the answer to both yeah look for a job like you're, looking for a woman yeah,
but you involve us if all else fails to write a book about being friends of the grey area that that war
you your peltier career, for you touch us there were so that I do think like it. It it, sir
networking socks put, it is like em it's how the world works,
and so like asking your friends what they're doing and talking to other people and in
having those lines in the water we will.
we come back to help you because you'll be like oh shit. I do know someone who does this
or I have a connection to this an end like
keeping those lines always open. We,
eventually pay you back even
does sock its socks having to be lion fake, nice, in
and you know, like you know,
drinks with someone who you never gonna get a job from an all that shit. What is it
it does get socks. Networking ryan. I know you don't like networking. It sucks,
when the worst output I hired I admire like I'm. Both
a legislature but like when I see somebody who, unlike our your real rolodex kite
in l, c and l blake They'Ll- be attempting to do it to me right, like all your connectors and now you're. Actually, it's not about you doing me the favor. It's you looking better that you can connect me to somebody else in the nose and I,
buys it yet still I'm sort of envious of the ability to, because I've never been able to do it, and I'm going to continue to be bad at Titus.
we still own all your terrible at this. It's it's one thing that that we we never talk about because we don't reach out to each other, but if we did if we did speak of but
So I would say to learn from my mistake. This is something that I
I viewed networking kissing right and I think it's important fur younger people
if you're someone like me that just like trying to be jaded in trying to be lake treated like that, you're too,
for school,
No, I think looking back on it, I wish I had likud of slight attitude adjustment and in depth.
networking as ask a which is like networking
extreme level, you know-
I was kind of how like I was like. I don't wanna play that. Why would I fucking call this guy, who I don't even really know and like? Why would I go to the happy hour with the employee, like I don't really love those people like. Why would I you know and
I want to come across as an ask you a her and if I have to kiss disguised ass to get the job to get the thing
and I don't even want it
but there's a middle ground and the middle ground is like actually
sociable with people and like getting to know people and yet
I wish I learned a lot younger that, like just because your network, it doesn't mean you are now a kiss. Yet
This might be a no doubt to a lot of people out there that are good net workers, but if you're bad bad networker- and I know I was a terrible network or especially merrily twenties,
you have to understand that networking means dad
you're not reaching out to somebody and they're, not gonna, wave a magic wand and give you everything that you want? It's like you,
have to care about what it is the other person wants to, and then you
to genuinely be able to help them with something they need, and then they
help you with something that you need. So it's not you can.
The project, just strictly, I'm gonna go to this networking event and get the job of my dreams. You know
after you have to look at it from somebody else s point of view. What makes them
If each can you help them with it
In fact, the best net workers that I know the good role
ex guys that I know
They are just awesome at proactively, hitting me up with something
They know that I will. I will be interested in something that could help.
out in some way and then after
anything that ever comes across my mind, where's like oh, that would be perfect for this guy. I
give that person call immediately I'll give them what they want, because they ve done a great job,
at understanding what my motivation, yeah it's it's it's it's great great point of because it is,
like Titus in, like he does feel dirty and it
it's like kiss ass if socks, but have you
if you, if you think about it differently, where you're, just like I'm just
and acting to be no more people and its doesn't have to be asked. Ramping does have to be getting something in return, but you'll find
points in your life, we're like! Oh, like people
up all the time you like hey. You know this person yeah. Of course, like you, don't like that, that's just
kind of the world goes around what
biggest problem with it, and this I need therapy for it.
is what,
I dont reach out to people, because I just assume that no one wants to fuckin here. For me,
like that that, and that is that is something that I think is a struggle that like, if I may,
you know like dan. If I'm watching just in fields,
you know on a sunday,
a nominal. How steak I saw you, I have a vested interest in just feel- has been a great quarterback for the bears
If you like, I should ve been text new last year, as this is going on
but I'm also, like I'm sure, he's got a million fucking things going on, I'm sure there's a million people blown up. Why
Why would I reach out,
like. I would hesitated to do that at times,
and I dont understand, I've never been good at like getting over their mental hurdle of irony.
struggle with-
it is also with like
friends that I have, that that play professional sports, most of them in the nba.
Like my colleagues like the nicest guide on planet earth, and my colleagues is a guy that I've known for well over half my life at this point I
if I texted my con that he would love to hear from me. I also like just have this thing in the back of my mind, it's like my cali is living a far more interesting life than what
into here from fuck me,
like my colleagues like in a play, offer on right now. Likewise in god's name, what I take some good game last night bro,
they get eliminated
the they beat the nuggets they beat in august, people
the legacy continues to grow as the nugget, sir, a role and they won't work using texan
turkey has a time you should taxonomy texel right now touch them right now been like settling the road we ever do it. Do it a cool way, that's indifferently, like how's, that nuggets series go so tat. No, if we are really doing but not
no sir! I regard them. That's
that's one of my issues with networking is its boils down like self confidence. I guess I'm just lake. What do I
how am I like better in this person's life like?
I was then getting a text for me better in their life. It's probably not, so I'm not going to send it and that some,
I've really really strong. I know you you completely open mind you I mean I consider you a good friend and I don't think there's ever been a text message. Conversely,
that I didn't start
and every time I get excited like out. Oh I get it. I guess I gotta talk to do now, but
I don't know I it's, but then I get I get. The reputation is being you know, stand
profession, not sociable, and all that sort of thing and religious lake, my own,
securities bubbling over, but as it as it. It like. I struggled with friendships, but as a pertains like the career side of things. I don't
I just I don't have that gene in me to like do that, and that's one of the things I I struggle. I try to do better, so I think one thing that's helped me over the years because mark I've, I've felt the same way a lot of my life and just the
the idea that people do want to help other people yet for the most part so late.
if you had a question or anything for me about like
I know you will be moving chicago. I don't know anything about chicago
I don't know why you ask me anything you're way more familiar with the city than I am
If you had like a question like oh, what grocery store or you shopping at in your neighborhood is a good hour. I would be
I am very happy to apply them
oh great, I get to help mark so easily
like keep that the your head that your friend
I do want to help you with things,
I don't feel bad about logic. The logic is. The logic is completely fucked, because when people text me, I do get excited and I'm like. Oh it's good to hear from this person. I've heard from it a long time but then like. I never think that it would work the other way and but yeah that's just
that's our get off work, maybe get off networking now of a europe. That was something I think it's it's I mean people
to answer, questions that has upkeep.
Just keep me offer that grocery threat, yeah yeah, I have to say it is it's like. Probably the
of many men like whenever you know when you get asked a question that you don't even know the answer to
and you're just answer it just like you know
like hell you. I know this
just cause you don't want to state like people like to Israel should maybe just start shooting like lay up to everyone
my calmly like what your birthday
Oh yeah, that is okay, yeah you're right. It is that how's, the family how's, the family do mike I'm thinking about buying a car. What kind of car do you drive? You want to answer that those are the best. Then you get to like yeah. He gets to to be like oh yeah,
driving this sick car, like goat. The lay up here, people like answering questions like that. They know the answer to
Also, you should be like what's up MIKE conley referred to with his full name, when he tells him I've. I've got a question for you guys, because we were talking earlier about just like kind of self
scullery were cut hovering around that topic. Little bit, I was your people.
talking about finding themselves like
when for a vacation europe to find myself, I went backpacking cross the usa to find myself. So I went to Montana yea what
montana found ambiguous it by
Yeah, it was weird when it comes to find yourself. That's a concept. I've I've never really completely understood. I think
was taken it to mean, like just become happy, just get happy.
I dunno. Finding yourself means, but a lot of people spend,
at a time
for transition of their lives. Worrying about
finding who they truly are an idle
what that means to you guys and something I've been wondering for for action.
a long time, because I don't understand the concept of it,
I feel comfortable answer in this, because this is something that I have spent a lot of time.
In about, I think from
finding myself. The idea of finding yourself is like more finding your place in the world more finding out lake what it is. What what does your
as for being here what is something.
For me, it was like almost finding something outside of myself more than finding myself like what what
that that the key getting
I and every morning, and what keeps me going all that sort of thing
And I think I get you brought up like happiness pity. I think to me like finding myself was, was leaning, lesson to finding happiness and more in defining fulfilment and like trying to figure out what it is.
I think those are two very different things.
I I I kind of have honed in on that that, like a lot of the things that I was doing in my twenties and early thirties and.
There are things that did make me happy and those and like the moment, I was doing them, but I would
that bed at night not feel like I'm fulfilled in some way, and I think
the process of me trying to find myself was trying to fit
which country goes back to like me saying. I know I want to be a dead, because
No part of me wants to change diapers and wake up in the middle of the night, with crying kids and like have like a whole nother fucking living being that I now have to take care of
as I say here today, the living by the beach in los angeles
That does not sound exciting. That does not sound for, but I know like deep down that is part of my fulfilment process, like I think I,
That's what I need to like feel like my life and my purpose on this earth is like fulfilled. So I think that's
that's how I would define it is like trying to figure out less.
Like puts a smile on your face and more of like what makes you feel like a whole person and makes your identity make more sense to you.
It's good answer, no, your. Why so?
now those getting it right now
I think it's a really complicated thing to answer. I think we all hope that we're like building towards these places in
In time line words like all once I get to hear that I want to feel this way right and then what
I'm here, I'm going to feel this way and I think the big joke about life is all that stuff's bullshit, like the amount of stuff that I thought was a certainty when I was in my twenties later on. I was like, oh my god, that's that's stupid
then you get a little bit older, whatever I think from.
I think, there's one part of it where it's it's.
hey. I know myself right always know ourselves better than any okay, if you figure,
How are we are? That is like? Who knows you better than you as well know on
you're the one that has all the thoughts near the one that really knows how things make you feel good or bad?
and so this dislike this peak of
understanding or fulfillment or happiness
from this point on, I think it's pretty delusional, because
the way it sold to us is that from that point on now everything makes heads. Are this? This point on everything's gonna be easy. If I know
you're, probably just more condition to deal with the challenges because you ve already at so many challenges in the past. So maybe you don't
get rather than not getting rattled is actually you find yourself.
being happier or just having a higher low as a result,
before when you haven't had as many life experiences and you're getting so rattled by it because you're like wait. I don't think this is really weird. It's kind of like being dumped a third time like the
One may really fuck you up a second time, you're, the guy. I remember this. Is it a great feeling? The third one you like? I will suit look who single again, you know like as you just you ve been through it
and in the last part on like this,
finding yourself.
I dont think I personally am that impressionable, like I don't know that I can t
maybe gullible to heart of word, but I
I don't think I'll ever have a moment were at psyche up now I get it.
Don't and for me that at that moment doesn't really exist. I know myself now. I know how I react to certain things. I have other goals. I have things I hope that happen. If they don't
much more suited to handle it now than I would have my twenties, because ever d gone through a lot of stuff so that that mom
that xanadu ah
go for it, I'm not!
wait sure it exists the way we think it will when we're young. Unless you go to like south america and drink, I walker for the eyes and then that that actually sounds like finding yourself yeah
the annex, I don't think there's an hour how moment and I think it's just like a slow bill. I love of lessons you pick up along the way,
I think it's all about the problem, the problem of the drug part of it not to be the anti drug guy but like in the moment. You may feel that way right and then this
where's off in your like, oh,
remember what I thought everything was going to be different days. Ass, nothing only really mushroom. I should go take drugs. Can you
could you go to joshua tree? Do you really think when you go there that
a couple days after that visit
the governing spock indifferent that gets
That's kind of ridiculous, like the place would be way more popular
It had that, if an impact on the rest of your life, I'll though, if not it's pretty popular, now enough people had taken acid in the sixties. Who knows there was that there were there
there is a moment where, maybe if people had done it, we know
but of a different. I think funding yourself is, I agree,
it's aha moment, it's a slow burn and I actually
it's all about like real confidence, because you
as you get older, you start look
back you like that was totally faye. Confidence
and then eventually you get your point, we're like
operator myself, like I'm confident who I am and I
When I fuck up. I know when I do good things,
and having that like real confidence where little thing
don't bother you as much and you
No like hey. This is how I'm living my life and I think, I'm doing a good job of it
in the other still be bombs? It's not
boom. Everything changes like we're so saying it's is: is a complete fraud like
that aha moment, but that that feeling of getting
to a point where you're like ok. This is what real tk.
Finance does feel like
and knowing what the fake confidence felt like when you
going through all those changes and being I can't wait that really,
what I was kind of putting on a front there like I was covering up some stuff. I was I was
acting away. That was not really truly me and maybe
simple is like we know when people like hey, you wanna go for beer like no.
I'm here. I myself know I'm good
be covered and yourself is turning inwards and I think a part of being younger is, as you said, dan like having the brash
did. You just have an attitude of like wanting to to put off a certain orator, everybody around you and you do
it's a certain age. It is not our aha moment, but there is like a ship that happens for muse and between them
in thirty five like it started up, which I think you're, the guy who came up with the eighteen, thirty, four, your demographic and then thirty,
I started a new demographic that guy's a fuckin genius because I feel like something des change like what's heard thirty five
I think it's less about like trying to solve
or trying to like
with your image to the outside world, and you get to the point where you start getting more
worried or more focused on lake,
just when you look in the mirror. What do you see and when you're going to bed at night in your staring at the ceiling like what? What are you good with you? You are right, you think and like all this,
the thing- and I think that
finding herself is like you. You ought to get so point we're like honestly. I might
be for everybody night. You know there are going to be people that think I'm annoyed that you know and, like I said I do struggle with that. Like I don't want to text, people like the outward part of my life is still a struggle for me cause I do sometimes
I I'm a bother to people all the time, but in
in word, like I'm totally fine with like who I am what I believe
how much money I make. How famous I am like all that sort of shit like you get to the point where you're to secure and I think that's the process if its kind
like they're there, it's it's a shitty analogy would be like with the common for the first
you know whatever, however years your life, it's like you're you're, trying to drive a car really fast, and then you kind hit a point. We're like I'm just
of all in this car, like I'm, just I'm in the passenger seat, I'm good like with like things will happen.
friends will calm, friends will go.
New it will get in there. Will we get there like? No, it has happened again. It is not our high and it does take gradual time cause you. You have more
in that path where you'd, oh, I really have the conference now again, probably fake work, but you do eventually get to appoint
feel comfortable with yourself and ever
the kind of floats away a little bit. Words like you know
you can just deal with situations and in a different way that feels like you
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Was there a moment for any you guys, because there is no aha moment. I agree that a hundred per cent
but there are a lot of little moments that add up into making you who you are at any given time.
Was there a moment looking back on it,
that you knew was a very important choice are important thing that you did
that you agree like now that was
a small aha moment that built me up into what I am right now, because, ah
for one moment that I looked back on was when I stepped on the scale, and I wait fifty pounds more than I thought I was going away.
It's everyday bro, bro
the countries that was
definitive moment. I knew threatened by the way I was just. There is a side step, and I want to hear this story, but I am
when I weigh myself of the gym I'll, make sure that I'm holding all like four towels before I gonna showers, shoes. Those are probably
each. Let's try went around so I'm good
I knew I was bad about that, but then I had an idea with the number of my beard. I stuffed I was like that's going to be a really high number that I slept on. It was about fifty pounds more than I thought it was going to be sick. Jesus is yeah wait. So how long had you gone from the previous time? If you just don't want to step on a scale, then yeah, I just did it yeah? It it'd probably been a few years honestly, like I knew I'd put on a few pounds, but it didn't really fully.
and then one day I was like,
I actually emasculated and our house the basketball
I called out for being fair passivity which, like I, was totally firewood because those like all the do that played with and we all bus, each other's balls- and you know that,
I literally wrote a book like telling some stories about these guys that
three times and I get a mention. I wrote a book called. Let's just go to your brother, just get to reach out and go.
Hey- we sold wave is happening.
but alice in the midwest yeah there we go. I was I was yeah. I was fine. I was fine with it. You know I I kind of made my own bed in that regard, but, like guys were coming at me and how about how fat I was,
so we're almost like a mother,
Look, I just thought I was like a little bigger. You know it's not like. I figure dumpling basketball, you get bigger. You know like magic johnson.
Bigger than he suddenly for you know, what's gonna happen,
and then I made myself wasn t he said
so and then I started that honest to god, like a joke, society did start like personal discovery path. For me
Billy did I get started like like
I am I my life is out of control and I just casually slowly, I start
Then, if I ask if I can wait fifty pounds more, I thought I wait what
things in my life and I completely lost track of
Like how entreating people in and relationships in all the sort of thing, and yet some of that
the question that was one definitive moment. I vividly remembered stepping on the scale been like. Fuck me, this is bad,
I have a lighter one. If you want to go in between,
those who sell was that of,
jail, it was now
I actually think
when I was twelve years old, I was on a family vacation.
and I won a hundred dollars, an eternal racing q s florida and I was like damn that was fun. I like that.
And I actually probably back and realize, like yeah. That was
Probably the moment I like I like this, this is fond of this is the big I like more than
anything else pretty much so yet a propaganda greet the wife of myself.
like fuck that rocked maternal when faster
if that's all, had been just like half steps lower ever gave this park has not exist as the ultimate that's the turtle effect. I also,
I leave you with twenty earth. Nineteen. Ninety four,
Five, I went fifth
sixteen for sixteen in the first day, the tournament in fifteen for sixteen. In the second day, the tournament my bracket- and I was like this-
wow
those two moments wrong here. The two moments run like tat was awesome.
Oh, I have I have a couple. I dont know one
once a little heavier ones. A little later I'll I'll do the heavier one first sent away choke.
Did you get it later?
if one of the things that I think is great about the mental health awareness stuff is that you know it makes people
you like there alone realize you're, not alone right.
I think there's also an I dunno how popular populist b
It is also a slight layin words like hey, I'm bum doubtful can deal with it and get out of my way where.
when I was going
through my bit twenties and the like, I go from
he'll, be in your college town to taken this baseball, gig thou
like I've. Every week I showed up to work. I was getting. I was broker a broker like it costs me more money to stay there than it did actually do the job because day
totally lie to me about how the commission's work and all the stuff- but I was in my first on urgent in a back then
you did more than a laptop is beyond the air, and so then I
proposed to my girlfriend. She said now, so we had a couple of things. Not workin out is two thousand to write. The famous two thousand and two or two we get real
story and- and I was really really miserable-
that was sad. You know I was. I was pretty fuckin bummed out. Man. Ass was pretty bummed out.
But then I started realizing that I kind of enjoyed being bundle because then it gets.
an excuse to do nothing right like a
maybe we should start working now, can't do like
I'm just not there, and
I started being so comfortable with it. Then I may
these glad that I
I'll, say: ok, wait! A minute like you may not be super happy in get through this this phase, but
this isn't an excuse for everything. It studies, you sure you'd be shitty dear siblings. It it's an excuse to like loose
It's touch it. It's not an excuse to have your parents like half the fucking cater to every whim that you have become
They know that you're hurting right now and
once I kind of realise like haiti
do you like this? Do you live
being bombed out. So therefore, you have an excuse,
kind of made. Me look at myself a little bit differently and then I'd say
the more light one is just being at hideous, and you know that
a few years with ample, they all wanted to replace me other. The Van pelt
they every time the show was bad. It was my fault when the shows good it was. It was because of him. It was absurd on and on and on bad contract offers. All the stuff, when put my name on the show, wouldn't make me a full time employed and have helped benefits will act first, I think fuckin tool.
three years on the shell. I mean all this,
and everything was designed to try to get me to quit
and so I started in this sucks when you're a non air person
you start thinking like wait. Do I suck like I'm surrounded by managers that all keep telling me I suck in one version of another and based on the offers that they're giving me, instead of just being fair, making me a fuckin employee, they had a fuck
at every single turn, and
you know what I actually think, I'm good
I stay in this role, long enough I'll still have more.
Again more staying on the afternoon, show at espaa and radio than I will in anything else, and they kind of know it it'd be nice if they could just be fair, and I could go to the fucking dentist, but no arm.
they're, not going to do that, but I had like a real epiphany as an on air person, which I think anybody pursuing the air stuff is, unless you're lying to yourself but
There is a moment where I just
and it happened too late for me
but there's a moment where I went
hey, you know what I'm looking good yeah
I think I'm just good at this, I'm good at this job. I'm I've listened now to everybody else. I listen to the people that are supposedly ten times better than me, their people that are better with me than this. I think this guy's better do in radio. I think this person interviews, but
collection of what I am now at this point. My abilities are like a fuckin good, so
I know I go out. I shall appear I've. I've got ten different people. Look at me wish they could replace me because I'm just not famous enough, which is no longer the conversation,
but once I had that like moment, a real send moment of his an honor person or anyone is performing a writing. You're doing these in a kind of things
like once you
now you could also be lined yourself too. So, there's probably some people listened be like. I think you suck and you're full of shit right cause. You know it's all a taste thing but
for some of the more creative careers
when you get to this, like
level were you just so confident in your abilities and honesty, it doesn't have to just be the creative stuff. It could be. Something is working in the corporate,
What's your like? Hey, you know what a pretty fuckin good at this. I think you
become even better because now you, like
not self acceptance, but it's it's this moment of, like
if all the insurance, like the uncertainty of like, am I doing a good job by not doing a good job? Once you stop thinking about that stuff, it frees up all this other room to just continue to execute and be even better whatever it is you're doing yeah
go, go back to what we are talking about, the guy in his first job and all that sort of thing and how, like your ear when you're that young your work with so few data points, I think part of the resolution is that
as you get older,
I almost liken
the jobs are, we do to be like baseball players were like every show us what we we both are off. All four of us.
we, we talked so goddamn much for a living. This is what we do. We talk there's so many times we make so many jokes we may have so many takes
not all of them hit. Some of them are good. Some of them are bad. Whatever
and I think, when you're starting out in this job or any other job, when you,
Fewer data points your first
abandoned the big leagues. You strike out
you're, like I suck I obviously I have one I've wanted that through fast boring
down the dick and let it go by.
I obviously not built for this
once you ve been in the majors for five or six years, and you have some things you look back on. You like. I had at one great play in this way this and that
if you go through a swamp or whatever you do, a bit more secure like your abilities,
and yet what you want. You can convince yourself, I'm good at this, then
you can handle.
I can now five straight up
as you know, and it's not as if not as big a deal to youth. If people on internet say you suckin,
the world or whatever else you have to deal with, because you come a little more set her at all.
No, it's it's a great point. Both eu, like Pierre Tina
this with this show, like I think, if you look at the
pardon my take, we
structured everything so meticulously? Unlike then, we're going to talk about this than arbela and then
at a point where, like we're good at this, and people wanted just listen to us,
just be friends and talk sports and it like a completely open it up to a different show. That, I think, is like great because of that, where it's like you don't have to,
you don't have to have every next step planned and once you realize hey, I'm good at this job, it does open
to be like, I can do this and it is a lot of small dubbs along the way life is about stacking small dubbs until until it
eventually reach a point where you do have that baseline set of like confidence that you can go out
and get another small dub night
gonna, hit home run every time, but if you know
you can make contact back your baseball analogy. Bork it may
the ability to hit a home run that much easier, yeah yeah
guy going another aha moment I just thought of was, I think I've told told the story
the shower
a million shows, but I'll do it again here, vampa speaking a vehicle. What I
the twenty sixteen, I believe in sea autonomy- and I was working at grantline of impelled-
I reached out to me. It was like we're going to do a bracket special show at E S, p, n, and we want to
you ain't your under contract. I think
grantland might have been have had dissolved by this point, cause I think
twenty and fifty articles halloween twenty fatima,
stolen or has been contract. Did you write?
benefits
I honestly, I think at that age. I don't know if I would have realised if I did not think helping to efforts such as young. As I was like. What can I get to do this
but probably the other.
I was still regarded repel flies me you'd, like we're gonna. Do a selection show from Bristol
we want you, there come come
the part of the broadcast? So I
what the bristol I was really excited about it first and then I'm em they're in the production meeting and
he tells me it's gonna, be I think it was J billows, a nose jealous, I think, was carol lawson at the time,
Some issues that he has been
and it was gonna, be me and anne and obviously scott, that we were gonna, be the for honour, its ally for the steel, and I never glue. Do people shut
I I have done a few hits with him at this point and I'd done a little tv stuff but like by no means was, I had a television person or an on air guy or anything like that
and my excitement like in this pre production meeting or this production meeting or my excitement had gone from url at my emotion, had gone from being excited about the opportunity and like holy shit. This can be awesome. My boys are going to see me on the sp and for an hour for the selection show so like hold
shit. I'm not qualified for this at all. What am I doing here and grandpa
Give me the best piece of advice I died.
Will always remembered, I told a story, millions eyes, but here's a million and one
He could sense that I was
nervous, and it is for me aside, you'd, like him in
I don't need you to be jealous. We didn't
and call you to come up here, and I didn't I didn't. You know reach out to you to be here to see you could go out there and just try to be jealous. I have j bill is here to be jealous. I want you to
our titus, and if you do that, we're gonna have a great show and it felt, like.
a thousand pound wages, philip melted off me, and I honest to god. I think about that
whenever I have, even now at thirty five years old, all these years later it whenever I haven't like a bad, you know self doubt of lake
spot and make my career, like my, you know like what. What is it
I just short, stay under like what are my bought whatever I distinctly
deep breath, and I do think about that, and I'm like at the end of the day, if I just continue to like do what I think is good, and I know I'm good and the rest of it will take care.
Itself that I was another aha moment for me and we all of scots. So I thought I would give them
that's its interests and think about because a lot of times you dont think about the impact that will you tell other people you're lying about the enact and it's going to have on them.
but there's so
points in my life that were committed.
Lee changed by somebody telling me like hey, I believe in you you're good at this,
they are for buffers prescribe impelled to not say
I want you here, because I think some day you might be x Y, see you like. I want you work right now. I see you as this, though,
slipper, fuck, india. Now three of our bosses dave port right. Not it's not a big compliments guy. If anyone has realised that, but
still remember the only cover many pretty much ever gave me. I wrote a blogging like twenty thirteen twenty twelve and he just emailed me good blog.
And I was like all our goals that was good. Ok, I literally that that gave me the conference, so it's like would be
he was getting out like it's also
hey it forward, you know tell other people like I try
Do that with guys in girls it at the office like if they use,
good it doesn't it
Take anything to tell someone they did a good job yeah. You know I mean like it's very easy.
not a heavy lift,
probably means a lot more to them.
then he realized in the moment because even
Just saying good blog was like. Oh my god. This is fucking awesome
Nothing makes me laugh. I tried to tell the person that was very funny or like you're, really good at that, because that
you have a big impact on how they feel about themselves,
that can change everything yeah. I still remember the my one of my big moments in my life was just
barely getting into a comedy! Writing class my senior your college and I
had done like a do everything else. I waited to the very last second to fill up my scheduled and apply for any classes. That class was all filled up
I emailed the professor zooms in majors great teacher, and
really back he's like I'll. Let you this class no problem. First,
a class. Yes just write, something we turn in an hour
looking at the room- and he goes hey- that's funny, you're funny right,
yeah, and that moment right there that was,
the class I care about. For the rest, my college career that time,
little praise and he gave me gave me confidence to be like well. Maybe I
should pursue a career in comedy. Writing that change the entire
trajectory of my life,
so I always tried if something makes me laugh I'll, just
The person like hey, that was awesome, good job.
and you never know it's important paid ford,
because you never know what that person's gonna end up doing for the rest of your life. You regret
if you find out the person sucks now,
a compliment from a shithead whose car
it's back. No, no other way, though the other way around complimenting somebody that you're, like three months later, you see a few more yeah. No, that's that's also happened. Yes. That has happened today and I and I get shit on a lot certain
instances than that leave it I'll leave. It
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Are you like? Oh my god, what did it? Do you see him? That's an older version of what we're talking about their reserve, there's a art
teacher, somewhere in fucking, germany or whatever and nineteen seventeen like you socket painting
so
some of you said, like eight, your good painter, things could have been different
or maybe the art teacher said. I don't need you to be Leonardo DA vinci. I just ordered a bitch is already being adolf. Hitler will be good enough. Yeah good point: do you know that when fdr was taking a ship
across the atlantic is set up for this meeting. During
or to an africa, not the one in two, but they did it
illustration out at water and they almost torpedoed the ship that fdr was on
from a u s, so it actually was heading towards it and they had to find a way to detonated before it destroyed the ship and killed. The present are armed forces almost
build our own president as shipping across the atlantic all the time jimbo right there. I got a fun fact for you that I gave to pft last night. Recently you like this. Do you know who the first american to find out?
to Joseph Stalin died mickey mantle
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in germany after them. Yours, it's definitely true, go look it up put. I
with the is exactly right exactly right. Like those great pointed telling people just goods,
unlike in getting to a point where you can add, also comes back to, though confidence thing
because when you're younger telling
good job, or that was funny you're
like I'm. Never do that. Like then like, I'm too,
their funny you're the me like fuck that you
oh boy, we're like give now. I can't idea these actresses all sweetie great job. Leda yeah, like you, are so good. I love island max you you're funny, you're you're, funny guys so funny when you lose beams thanks, guys shared aims,
I get some quick hitters for us.
I said a bunch these. These are good. How
about your friends, caring about politics. First, not caring about politics.
That would be a good one to come up with a year. We have a year where someone who cares about politics,
You should just know that your friends don't care power, politics probably hate you.
that's a good one. I would, I would say I would say, like you dislike,
I don't I like, maybe
This is a good time to split the friend group or something
cause like. I can't imagine I like when you said that to me. Did I read it? I was like I don't
I cannot imagine like to do that early great friends in one of those lake.
Very heavily ended a share in and as this is living on,
when her fire tweeds about whatever
once they have of the day and the other guys like you brought or really care like, I can imagine how those two people can all right. So I I figured
throw up your hands and, like I write this friendship, isn't for many more that's what
I don't know if I had a friend
I also just think it's as simple as just if, if you know you disagree that much just don't talk about it,
Don't I get so care to be friends? Is someone in not talk about that stuff.
That's true, too yeah. I've got a lot of france that I disagree with about stuff like that. We just you.
Not so that's not productive knows
There was no change anybody's mind dry, twenty three it just we all
we all can are who we are at this point. Are countries like forty nine percent
every election is a fucking, weird yeah, oh, you can have to caen
it could not be.
Less alike
and, though, always end up getting forty nine percent of vote. Both of them
yeah, just like to people that live in this
country and if,
you don't get along with other person,
when it comes to certain things than just don't bring up those things, but
so with politics is gun. I feel like the word. Politics is change because
like politics,
any given moment just means the things that any politician happens to care about. At that time,
So what might be called a somebody is
just somebody else's life, so
I don't know where to draw the line like what is political, let's ex just means having an opinion. Also here, like I think, you'll give you tell your body like. I think indeed, should have one of the and they're like do this
as you well know, something does very well. I also I also did ever so little country stood the piglet american who are like
I found out one of my friends thinks this, so I had to be stopping friends them like
maybe I'm naive, but I I dont really.
politics at all with any my friends, but I also know some of my friends think differently than me and that's a good thing.
Like guts, I know thing
I interpret that you're right, I interpret. The question is like my body is super and of how tax and talks about it to me all the time, and I don't give a fuck. What do I do and unlike either, you know that you are like? I guess you just don't be just don't be frontier know what else to ryan
well. You did me I remember outside of it. I should have said it the economy.
I sit up up up up up up then I became the only guy in the country. Apparently the cares about surprise him like getting books,
more should when, when you invited your friend to go with your vacation to washington dc january twenty twenty one
and then turned to big political thing that ruin that right.
I remember I, I think I think you guys did it too, like I'd already taped the pod that morning and then you know usually an hour or two before it goes live, and I tweeted out the link and it was January six. It was like oh figures that you would
is your part and I'm like if anybody can tell me that boots on the ground that
make us hey. Priscilla released is pod, let's rethink what we're doing
My if the release of my part or like hey guys, we're civil isn't releasing, is pod cast today. Let's, let's patrick, I think a pack up and let's go back then I would have done whatever could have been. I think what I look out with all the politics stuff is that I'm actually not very political. I think the extremes of both sides, like you such fucking, hypocrites, because the same stuff that like one candidate, would do that you're gonna spend all time treating about if your guide does it the eager to defend it. To sink shit is like most sixers arguments, honestly
so do I I just don't have really much patience for. I remember one time I was at dinner or were having drinks at MC shea in one of his buddies. I guess it's like super political and I barely knew him and there was something about like the
I think of osama bin Laden- and I was like wow imagine like whoever was in power- would have done it and he was like. Are you kidding me he's like bush said emphatically that, and I was like it was like warming up with three fifteen on the bench I was like holy shit yeah. I was like I just kind of have like a layman's approach. I wasn't read up on it, so I'm not presenting this as back later on, like you know, if you had a chance to dig up a terrorist, that's probably
hi approval rating move and that probably anybody in office would have done it
again I'm just kind thinking like ours in it, you would have thought I insulted is
in the wife's sister and ever and it was like lewd like I couldn't fucking believe it
I turn michigan what
that all about it he's a oh politics. Yeah he goes, don't go, don't read. None of us will can't stand. It spoken brutal.
I mean look. This encounter, I think, was like.
fifteen years ago and I still never forgotten, because this is like pre twitter, all I'll stuff. I guess what I ask is
those of you that have tweeted about politics and non stop for eight to ten years or four or two or six. Has it been worth it?
like what's changed, this is
was yeah right. Like do you look?
all the time on that go on really good use it time really getting
I can ever imagined. I could never met unless your soul goal was to have a certain following, because some people have
your weapon eyes, delighted to stop turning it into this massive following then they could pretend
that they have some sort of presence when they say, like featured on like feature. What, like somebody replied with fucking tweet so
there's a lane there for people. They can kind of fine their niche with content, but now a kind of on something else. I personally would we
I have to do like a real, hard abe. We're not doing this like if we want to be buddies, and it's not even that. Maybe I even oppose you. I just
Think of this is a topic I'm not interested in, and you think that I'm supposed to be up. I next
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medieval times.
medieval times is the best place in the world. It is
Have fun
you go there. They give you a turkey leg, the size of your torso. They give.
Flags of ale, the fucking breathe flagging veil, then
to watch nice of you to go out of each other. Who cares? It might be I
it tastes good, because I'm watching a sword fight,
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I'm actually mad at myself. For now
going a single time,
To one out new jersey, since I've lived in new york, because
I always have
times my life had been at a medieval times as good one. I I
I'll draw. I am not a huge vacation guideline. Cankers is advocating right now
I love going to just pick a city and just now
real plan being
I'm gonna walk around the city for three days long weekend done in a bar,
the great citys way was the last time you even dick. I did well now with kids, but I've done seattle, portland toronto. You just fly you to see to someone like you should know what no like I'll go to dinners and ship. What I'm saying like walking around with little know why,
Listen, why I give someone starts so someone start and yet no one. I do myself or so
but yeah you're walking around there's someone in seattle and they
bob into only make small talk. Knowing where you're from here like come,
from out east
and they say what are you here, for you say just a fuckin walk around for three to know. I like to see shit. You guys.
I think it's that weird you gotta have that? No, I don't think it's weird to like pick a city that you've never been to to expert, but like the way, I think it was the way I presented it up. I'm just like going.
its toronto yo,
couple dinners planned put a lot of. It was just walking around the city different neighborhoods, like just get
from the vibe like grab.
beer here, grabbing coffee here, I
its wiping gave reading
its leading with just walking around yeah Al Qaeda, probably illegal bad way, if you, but I yet, as I have picked a spot on a map and said, let me I've never been there. Let me go
I would highly recommended will,
whose is beeping whose truck is blind bathing?
what's goin on in the dark garbage, dare say I no,
I cause a lot of people, think vacation you've to go to beat somewhere. I really do think it's like very cool to go see why
another city is like by just hang out and and
one of the cool one of one of my most member
vacations was I I looked at the map of north america, I picked out- I I was just staring at it like. Where have I never really been no
Scotia looked funny to me on the matter and I started Google he'd like how far would it take to drive their from columbus ohio and
this map out a vacation I drove up to like toronto and end ottawa like over again back in an hour.
Unlike the whole trip was insane cause, it was like I, I would never, in a million years, have planned a trip to go to quebec city or to go to you know new brunch
We like wherever the hell I did, and I was like this is awesome and Canada is all like I'd been to canada a few times, but I yeah sort of that point,
that is, that is a good move. That's a guy moved to wrap it around around. Some of them are something that you're doing there. A guy. I could see myself saying
You know what I'm gonna go check out. San diego gonna go.
pod raise game.
it's for a little bit. I spend my time walking around san diego, yes see I haven't yet I'll. We've done it and not wrapped around any event like to savannah GA like had a couple of great meals, rented a car drove around like it was fucking awesome
just like seeing what the city is like on not
tourists de way, but just like kind of being in it.
bad idea. Sorry, no! No! No! No! It's! Ok! I think I'm gonna. Do you just lead with you, lead with lights and alighted cities and walk around for I'm also realizing now that like when I say that, like I just show up like I,
starting to realise that, like my wife, probably planned a lot of stuff than I don't even real our credit like one of those situations where I'm like this is cool like we did all this stuff, and it's like how this all happening, like she's, probably planted
out not just a fuckin more in a I've done it. I've done that before new orleans, my first time to new again, just like
gotten to new sewage, about
mostly other times I do it. There is a beach that's near by
and so it will be under the under the pretence of
im going to go to the beach miami, but what I really end up doing now spend some hours at the beach but I'll go round I'll eat. Dinners
see what the town has to offer check out? Neighborhoods is not that it's not that weird, like I did in toronto, and I are all we had planned, was a few dinners and like we just
there's one day we walk pry fifteen miles were just walked through the entire city and it was fucking awesome. I don't know it was cool.
Yes right what used to be quite honest, so I don't like you just get off me. I know that we celebrate our stupid out how I so what you're saying is you go places with you? What yeah
has anyone else. You ryan
you ever
picked out a city to go on vacation and then gone with.
Aren't I incorrect.
paris is a great city to just go to walk around? I did just walk around paris going to the we went to the louvre and the line was so long. We're like fuck,
side into the love is overrated. That's one thing: you can write waving his paw gas. If you go to bed
just go to go to door, say don't go the lou fucked the loop forever
my favorite vacation. I've ever taken was to alaska to denali national park. So I I would I special shout out to that that I I've I've done a lot of the nature trips, a lot of the national parks of hill I've hit,
so actually, behind my shoulder ads. For my background is like all this, then I can't point of super there. It is
national parliaments,
Denali was awesome because it was like the one place where you you just feel like you're on your own. They take one boston, they drop you oftener like. If you die, you die figure die like all over you,
and bus through here to pick up whoever survives- and I was ass himself-
not so long. How many days I did a fool
they're not to go a christmas canvas on you. You know the into the wild guy that died in the bus boy up. That was pretty
I can also be out there, like
to have those moments of
there's a lot of these national parks. They dislike paypal parking lot. You see, people like designer gene-
better, like auctioning, azure you're, trying to be an outdoor rugged. You know that diesel or you re, are also under alike wised. I know this now
why is the one place I've been where everyone I
over overrated it and it was underrated. When I what
I would like holy shit shall place credible.
Now why these I've been Maui a few times in
I would say most places, I've been lucky enough to travel a
after, while my guy, I got it
Now is one of those places where, when you have to leave your like, I don't know, I don't
if you like, leaving
My big things role play
Why go alone because of
stay in a village weather
switzerland, france, ITALY and I-
just go out one of those rights and pretend I'm a completely different person and I'll just look
little stressed out I'll, have a attachment.
With me, and I ll just ask if anybody seen the ambassador and then I just have
it drinks in the back, and I know some people come up to me and, like you know, prohibition sit here, I'm in danger and then everybody gets super fucking freaked out. Then I just uber to the next place and be like no I'm not who's ron, reseller,
what's so, what's the best ways you been right, you have been a, I feel like the most places out of any of us
Ah, I gotta me: I think centrepiece the cool place. I've everyone in the world and I've been
I was at a different place.
Wise when I went to the girl in jamaica. But I fuckin loved it because I loved how
And I mean this is the best way possible, but like it got real grimy and you can
I had my motorcycle and I would just roll up to these shacks
I love rigour. Fuckin loves the music, so much, and people who care
would care more about, like their speaker, set up in literally any other possession. They had house car pets like they care about speakers and
I would just pull up to these shacks were. It would just be stacks and stacks of speakers, and you just yet
weird side, road and I pull up in Europe
that therein fuckin two guys with just bring out for it.
Fives and play all this kind of music that I'd never heard before. I'd be writing it down like this is amazing and then I'd get on my motorcycle and like go to the next place.
as a couple nights ago, little weird and another I'll ever share that story, but that
These four, my age in my mind, set in the set up that I had
really loving the people of jamaica that
I've just there's no way. I could replicate that at forty seven years old because of forty seven. I d like this no fucking way. I'm doing that deal again,
but I want to censure pay the south of france and,
what I loved about? It is, if you didn't know you're in france right if you just said whatever, like dropped in the middle of it's like hey, guess where you are, you could say, spain, you could say northern italy, you might say france.
The tone it are you look at the history.
Yeah, if you, if you look at the history of kind of like who is whose
mingling with who, based on who was within some of these battles going back years and years years ago, just a big melting pot of lot of peace,
and so
it all. We walk around the main village and guys a plain thought. She.
at to the morning and it's jet tournaments any
Grab a beer and you're watching these old guys play in like everybody's going nuts.
and then the others. The high and both thing, which is cool and the supper clubs, go fuckin crazy
and I wasn't even I don't even know if I would have gotten into one of the circle- certainly have just one
right. You know we're talkin, like full blown vegas,
show tunes, but you could see it as you walk by it. So you'd have to bring a group. I you know nobody would go by themselves, although maybe I should have tried to break that trend,
but to go to that club. Fifty five thing, where know again, a kids' channel or trendy like brigitte bardot and all these actors and actresses that went out to this part of the south of france and make it really trendy.
but this is the power. I love europe because we're so fucking of tight in the united states in you don't understand
going to F one in mexico city and, seeing like everybody, just be like yeah. This is
another international superbowl for this decision.
that america's just figuring out what a big deal it is. We wanted to be the best time ever we talk or not worried about
walking with everybody liked you have you pass, you don't have your past like the way
The superbowl plays out verses like some of this international set that I've been to now
I don't know like maybe we're doing it wrong all the time. So to finish the job.
is I met this beach club
Japan.
At six o'clock the guys like hey, I gotta take the chair and I'm, like god, damn it like. I paid fifty bucks for this chair and I'm just kind of settling in the sun as a good ascent to look after nine o'clock the time of the year. I was there. I just cracked open my jp morgan, raunchier now book,
the guys like you can,
stay as late as you are.
like what? What are you talking about here
yeah and most people just leave cause the beach club is closed and the bars close and the restaurants close, and whatever he's like, if you are cool he's like you, fuck stay here, the rest of the night.
as a very serious
two nights in a row. I just hung out at that beach club and watched the sunset and then walked all the way up the beach into like another village and like found a place to eat and all that kind of
so even though I'm in one of the trend- yes most tourist, he places ever there still these these,
moments where you feel like it so relaxed, because at european level, I'm telling you
You do have a girlfriend or a life,
it's also even probably better with them the rosy and watching the sunset on this be
I couldn't believe they. Let me stay there and when I came back the next night, the guys were like hey man I was like. Am I good again they're like no problems so yeah,
down the amalfi thing than switzerland after germany? I've done parts of france of that.
make up most the islands and I have
many south america. I'd like to go to japan at some point but-
It pays the topic, so I love it. I love this question. The first answer was medieval times yeah, and then we we eventually got that with mine was an active yeah that was too long. That was part of the question was that it wasn't just the the to start over pfc was like David buss yeah that error or solos, like south of france, might my favorite vacation. My actual favorite vacation was the galapagos islands in ecuador,
and it is it's the
it's the most unique place on earth that you can go to. I want to go back every time. A plan of occasional like I just can't just go back
the turtles again that was there was a cool vehicle.
But it's no kidding it's so great because you, you arrive there and the day
However many people can come visit at a given time. You know.
To move their. It's all
people and the only way you can move there is if you marry somebody that is a resident of the galapagos islands, and so it's like,
still very, very southern california.
is very it's very small and it's a tight, the community, but you
turn everybody at some point works in the tourism business.
or the conservation business. So you get like assigned a guide that will walk around the island. Take you all these will beaches first afternoon we just got there. I walk out,
the speech. He has me snorkel and fancies ike.
Ok dive in the wider, some see lines that are women rather than what they're gonna wanna play with. You ask why, so
Jump in the water is perfectly clear. This
We can see leinster swimmin up to me and
I tried to get me to play.
and I'm like, I think, is like a dog. It's like a dog in the water
and he no joke brings a a sea cucumber.
It looks like a little dog toy. Any comes up to me is given
if cucumber come back as also
like he wants me to take it out of his mouth and I'm like I'm not going,
Just think. It's like one hundred fifty pounds to make me drown
He takes it and then he like drops it over his own, shoulder
and then he goes and place fetch with it and brings it back to me,
and at tat moment. I was that this is the best place ever been my life on plan a plane
that's a good did I always see line. It was incredible emma and then you get to go see these giant tortoises walk around everywhere.
Beers or just like the most simple, but most
fresh dearly love have any life. Yes,
Go back only go back to the galapagos,
you actually
you sneaky, learn a lot about so
it's about nature way there. It has everything they named everything after darwin.
On that. I like, if darwin ever, gets an answer that I don't have a lot of stuff deterred: galapagos islands,
but yeah. I just I just want to go back to ecuador man. Ah, I think I gotta go to the galapagos now and are a couple of there quick,
there's under a sporting event to attend in person. We ve got
I would say collectively we probably been to like lucky enough to be in a lot of fuckin cool places around the world,
in qatar.
It s exactly. Guitar emir did a great job hosting the world.
I know, but I'd say, like a soccer game,
an international soccer game between
two countries that actually care about soccer is awesome to go to their like passionate fired up at the brink of fighting? I wonder
when I was at what I was looking at Columbus, the the the I'll call a against mexico was there and all that every four years I guess would be.
And that was in a tiny little stadium, Columbus, ohio, they usually player in the fall, were being called a ship to the mexicans. Wood was not wanted to a warm up and they ve losing their mind
communist! That atmosphere is awesome. Them
sphere like one of the coolest forty atmospheres, I've ever seen her nose and like it tiny soccer stadium in an idea,
sick. Where are your cell?
oh yeah, see in vegas.
Yeah or boxing I may have been a couple big ones. When I was younger, it is
like any energy. I've ever been around nuts in its better, but it's different because there's like attention there's this fucking insane tension, that's different than your big time college football tension
playoff baseball is all that tension like I've been to some red,
exclaimed no three or four were like detention in fenway against the yankees in that kind of stuff was pretty crazy. But
different, because you're almost like a little afraid, yeah
I've been to some fights in
vegas in the early two. Thousands where
depending on who was fighting in what the crowd was like whether right you're staying in the fight hotel
you led up to it and there's this massive amount attention and then its
the bad it and then it's over, and if it was like a great fight. The energy like goes in a different direction because do another level
and then air it just kind of a free for all in the fight casino. If it's a good casino cause, then everybody who's just in the fight is like all hanging out
a walk around and you run into everybody. I used to go all the time. I definitely miss that the dream on green light, one yet dream on green assaulted. Me come out of macgregor
whether put out that's a good one. You have see. I went
big fight it at emissary. That's pretty sick, too
and I would say- rose ball I,
rosamond rose, I don't I'm personal designers. Ball is so it's just something about its new year's, its everything at sunset. It's just like people
good mood, it's just
But if your teams, not in the interests of blake
backdrop yeah it's just it's something separate drops off the beer and then I was you said the other one. Obviously
batteries on Saturday night is
like anything else and then off the maybe not been path, but
at keeneland racetrack in kentucky is the only
grace April in october, is fucking awesome.
It's the wrigley field, fenway park of race,
horse racing? If you ever
want to go for a weakened with boys? That's I would put out at the top of the list.
I want to shuttle devalue invitations, oh yeah, because I think everyone thinks it evaluating national as being also just because of where its at selective
feel are going about invitation or would be to go to molly, obviously, but if they do
jim. Anyway.
on planet earth. It would still be just an insane. I missed it like the atmosphere actually inside it. I get more aside. Every time I go to my invitation, I get more excited for what happens inside the gym than outside its
It doesn't make any sense, but a gym that small, like the the energy this year, when arkansas was playing cretin in the operational I swear to god,
The loudest I've ever heard a basket jew in my life, and it was arkansas creighton and maui social,
shouted and that's a good was you're too resellers point
the superbowl being like you know it's not the same as other major
national sporting events. It does feel super corporate. It's not the same
the fans at a game. I would
would actually love it. If the unifil, just let a home team, hosts the superbowl
and had the actual,
organic energy from the fans in the crowd. I don't
determined that another planet there were also going the opposite way, because you know the nfl. They were hoping that they would
that game in atlanta for the
fc. Championship came because I could totally see the owl doing now in future is never in a million years. Gonna happier, but-
who would have been to see weight
yeah. I'm so happy gave ray. I would be shocked. The chairs are you're right. You come new dry site in the next like five ten year, which I hate. I mean it doesn't feel the same. When you go into superbowl it, it feels it
If such a sanitize version of watching a football game that it doesn't even feel like the sport, sometimes yeah
a great about there. There's no major sport. That zone regrew gives less of a fuck about fans and ineffective
I get that it's about maximizing the dollar, but where
a look at some of the flax scheduling thing where you're supposed to then what change your plans last minute now
I give you seen some of this here, it's crazy, so
I got, you are you're right there, probably going to the probably going to do more neutral site stuff like at first, it's like a cool. The draft is going everywhere,
and then you're like wait just because you can charge for now, so I
I dunno the the nfl I get maximising every dollar that you can make, but I think the nfl usually takes it to a level where you start going like dude. Is it? Is it this
Important yeah, they are also doing very good person. It's very clear what they're doing the draft is: they're, basically sending it to all the cities that won't have super bowls so be like. Well, you had the draft
they're right, green bates and ok well, yeah. That makes sense
one. Last one and this
it is more like true sick
but if you can
we'll find yourself in a man,
game on a tuesday wednesday night, it is
something special, because it's like you're watching
division, one college football and
It there's like did out a thousand people
since the plays funny and it's like an answer,
the stadiums I known funny? How are they going or you can go? You can leave the stadium back to your car to drink at half time and then go
in the stadium,
like it just theirs.
That's why we used to be able to do that in Oregon. Really then eugene,
yeah, have you guys gonna eugene, for a habit.
I know it's just such a pain. The asked have you been Titus
no, I was gonna, go to the ohio state game up there and then covered ruined it, and yet the blue,
I'm not when it's when its role and I would actually put organ up there with a lot of places. I bear so, but not now. It's a stirring in conversation
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no of number. One on my list was actually considering going to the doktor when, when you feel like you know, I still dolls over the doktor. That's what
I still don't, but it actually crossed my mind for like, as I've got a little older like sugar to the doctor
That was something I never ever thought like. This can be serious, yes, it'd, be serious, and then I wait a few days in itself.
But as a great, actually consider gonna. He had just eat, just even the thought, even the thought, the creeps you're hot. Yes,
thought alone. I feel like I'm ninety years old by even think, yeah or so
my first pick was gonna, be
opening mail, but I think
I think I should change it too, excited to oh yeah. That's a good one, that's very
I wonder what this could be. I wonder who, because I had to stagger stuff the status that I was not excited.
but I was like look at me opening this shit yeah another tax refund. Maybe
bill appeared. I'm gonna taken an easy one right off the bat win, a player whose younger than you retires from a sport. Yes, that
is that was moments where we have a broad retires. Gonna sell. It's gonna ruin my
yeah
she'll abroad even abroad. Running out a gas against denver is already like an ex trigger next central crisis. For me, like watching him be to all the finnish yeah,
What do we find the the
cousin of that is like looking up ages of like bury bonds is fifty eight years old mike.
Are you serious like what house bury bonds would be sixty, so that makes no sense that socks,
That's good! I, like Van gundy, was like thirty four when you get the next job and I'm like Jesus just like a pause doing it, but still I buy mine too easy first, one too, and it actually starting to happen to me,
I have to ask people to turn down the music at. Like bars saved you to back this up.
Army, navy tailgate.
and I literally couldn't hear what other people are saying. I had to tell you tat: it can just turn down a little bit.
And also put it happened, and socks is brood,
have you guys had to do it. I've not had to do. I've wanted to do I'd leave before I got to a point where it's like. I can't hear I have to ask them to turn it down.
Pfc when we weren't when we're in scottsdale. We went through the bars the worth of the does yahoo, and I we talk about the day after, but I grapple sense.
Naturally, we walked right into the buttons, the the music without allow. I just walked right now,
yeah first long away like fuck, this music is loud, is just the sort of our own. Upstairs I looked at the table.
Well, I'm not going to be able to hear anybody.
They're not gonna, be methought. What was that.
side to be staying in his club right. Yes, yes, yes, I did. I say to myself: why would why would this what why would the bars to bar do this lake? Did this is
fucking miserable. No one enjoys us and I look at and there's a line around the block of people waiting to get in and I was like yeah. Alright, I guess it's a me problem and the other one is is a cause.
A parcel were with the lahti younger people just names of
yours or axes and like tik, tok stars and here like that
has been around for five years in it literally is a blank like a complete blank. There was one
Dave was tell me some about what what's the miami girl alex
its rashly to ease the outs run,
also irl. They told me about her. I think we're
in an hour
I dont I've never heard that in my life and then there like, how have you not? She has like thirty, five million followers and others like fuck, yes or no.
but then the other part of that is the case
when you're in transition part of feeling old you you like shit. How do I know that and then you ll want to figure it out
The truly old is when you hear that, and you just shrug your shoulders like, I don't give a shit, I'm not going to like it at all. Not only do I not know she is, I don't care moving forward. I don't even care to like look into it, this one not being I'll just say that or look into this one
and I do follow on all platforms. Robotic drop rely muttered, and yet, if you change your load, I decide to Egypt,
bloody balls has a great show a parcel sports called the only stands. So
Sometimes he has only fence model. Sometimes he has porn stars. I do
go up toward the porn stars and others like I'm, a big fan, your work and I never felt like a figure loser, my entire life,
but also she smiled at me, and I was like that rocked
I don't know if this one counts is the same as what they catch us said you can. You can vote me down. If does just.
seeing any ward show.
It doesn't matter what award show it is if it's, the mtv out the villa maze, if it's the grammys, especially the grammys, I feel like that's the bad one yup the oscars is one I can still watch and be like. Okay, I know cause most of the people.
old anyways, but
watching the grammy's out that that will be mine yeah because, like that, I've, zero idea who any these people are. Yes, yes,.
Plays and welcome good transition. My saw em up here,
the transit. Weird thing is, you could also just look at your grammar. I wrote down in our categories: Titus, r, r, p, F, t and then big cats at me, and I wrote me that
it's actually began. I wrote me,
I'm a great did, I just go.
I want to say anytime, you start a question with: did you know that in world war two got yeah
reading a tunnel nonfiction books on a beach, that's yeah that
suddenly, after I was reading hitler and Stalin spoke about hitler and Stalin
on the beach in Kabul,
and everybody around moves reading like some romance novel or like the latest mystery novel and unlike
I'm very old looking around here, come on very interest in what happened on board the submarine we were sometimes I'm in this I mean that part one of the african like occupation,
there were. Patents is telling guys. If I see walking back towards camp on that issue, and
it's fucking its awesome, but I mean when we were decision. It is like you know my dad's, not a real conservative, but he's like honest ways. Reading a lot. A military fiction are a lot of science fiction and exhibit catholic elbowing you're such a conservative. Such conservative thought it right to reside like yeah
you're, not republican. What I am getting in history,
it's like! I don't want, I don't want society to just abandon the people that need the help the most, but I'm in the middle of this vietnam war, whereas world war one fit into this in terms of like old people's interests like if you're, if you're interested in world war one more so too. Does that mean you're an older? I think
You sure I think too, is the gateway to want to yet to again, as I wager tools like a basic bed shortest remove,
everybody at some point it gets into world were too it's. It's gonna
move. It has an already and then
people that
really lead into that like well, I want to learn more about world war. Two
Furthermore, one word notes that are reason: people learn about world where one is because they want to know more about world war. To its. I now ass, I started doing hard drugs into the city is days when you smoking weed cigarettes,
I love you. I love you guys bring this up, as I eventually was a guard. I'm really lean in my were one year's. Let me get some of the bill wars and then I'll be like. I want a precaution not to say that too was godfather to, and one is godfather want, even the most of us like to better, but
I remember like the first time reading about the build up of one and all.
mere germany's gets really flimsy are and what they were.
They're like why does everyone love french culture, so much more than ours black? How long do you also the ending of world war? Two is better.
They found a way to tie that went up very neatly at the first one. I had a lot of hanging plot points
right and magic, they just did one move where one that's
in their first year was like this maybe
War wasn't an end because we called it world were one
your eyes. You see the other thing to the other. The other thing I found interesting about world war, two
yeah. Oh alright, you're too, is that Stalin. Stalin was very upset because the losses on the eastern front were monumental compared to the allied troops, and so then, when hollywood started, making movies after the end of world war, two
Stalin and russians were offended that they felt like they were afterthoughts in the story. Just like wait, so you thought these movies in hollywood. Were going to end with a bunch of guys,
with russia, names and accidents? Is the heroes of me busy late, forties uneasily?
Come on. Do the sun allow l a when we do we're going to have jude law play the main character and he's going to he's going to speak English yeah, alright, Titus you have to.
I had to
there are in my second one- is watching a game and having very, very strong opinions on the jurors yeah I've.
not even not even
My mind is less lake,
whether the jerseys are cool and more about the colors like
were recorded this right after game wanted to be the animals and that the moment the game was tipped off.
and the heater were in their dark red and the
it's over. Their dark, blue
I was just like. I can't ask somewhat someone is everywhere in why yes, and that I feel like that is does this is something I can point about all the time
and everybody looked to me like I'm a hundred years old, but I swear to god, I'm right that this is insane. I complain about the same shit I
mba is completely ruined. Their jersey set up its there is
game like two years ago where the heat were basely wearing the painters. Uniforms,
play a game, and I was like what the fuck is going on.
This is bad, but the count like this.
literally a hurts my eyes to watch too dark color
or to let any one light one dark make. It
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someone's going, go and buy two. So that way once times it to exchange.
to go, buy a new one and and take a chance that
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I do when I do it with you at chris long and I don't get any feedback. I'm like oh you're, getting fucking, oh yeah, that video. What are you supposed to be like not sure I think when you get older you're like
Well, my god that was funny. They have these guys seen it. Let me share it with them and because I'm older than you guys it gets it gets my unlike not much not much.
that must have seen guy you as do add context commentary on you. You sit down exactly because be he ll send the link and in follow up. So I won't know, like wit,
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Ass. A year
think, I'm so cool that you down upon me out by saying the wrong I dont want. I don't wanna, that's all I don't want change the vibrio like if it's like, I hated. That's you re the skies in areas like
yeah right? What a facility fix this guy's cool and I see layout this is the coolest. This is the coolest. I felt literally in twenty twenty three yeah, alright pft
right, minds very specific time to me in particular, but when I heard creed on a classic rock channel
I lost my shit. I was like no I'm. No, I'm thirteen.
thirteen thirteenth popular. This is
arms wide open.
this is a banker this is mainstream. This is modern rock. Do not
It is a classic rock. Ninety four point: seven does not now this belongs belongs on DC wanna, one, not classic rock,
and then I also heard Dave matthews banned on classic rock. Oh
that's socks. To think about a step we can do
thing with time were like
we are like
yeah a math he's been crash came out from
nineteen ninety five so about eighteen years ago, where
far moved as crash by Dave. Matthies band.
when were growing up, we were from like stairway to Heaven by led zepplin yet like,
I chino eighty, three,
closer to world war. Two there is today factory
yeah, I love and people thought that was super. Interesting, though,
today is closer to like tat. Now we got it
I think we should all start doing stuff like that, didn't happen where its
I love you. Man came out thirty years ago today make holy shit, betimes lion. I
ass to,
ah my experts is gonna be getting
actually upset when,
Doesn't tip off what it says is sceptical? I use,
joke about it? But now it's like
if it says like eight thirty and they tip off at eight forty three, unlike what the fuck, why
you fucking tell I got another thirteen minutes.
There are not going to be in bed like this is bullshit, don't fuckin tell me
thirty and anti poverty. Forty three and I know
very stupid to get mad about it, but I
mad about it.
I spent yet students, though those very specific times they fuck you up, like you said
You probably have ensued purity. Seventy four recently, honestly, just just haven't an opinion on the time that gains tip off is assigned yes, John oriented it didn't matter. It literally any opinion we like. Why would they? Why would they tip off at this time when this is don't they know that this is the assets are, like others, any child during game? Seven avant or maybe I can remember what it was like that, each
should have play their game in the afternoon. Like why the fuck did they play in the afternoon? Why why they do this?
the last one. This might be more of a dad thing, but I I
If you put me on a couch, I can nap like almost instantly
ten minutes. Fifty minutes like if I'm
events, if I'm based regulation, basically seated or like any comfortable position, animal
tired, its lights out so fast
and I too I feel, like you know,
going up, you see your dad be able to do that and, like you like what the fuck like wisely
applicants like four o'clock
afternoon, why is he taking a ten minute nap and now I've gone to that point? It's like fuck, that is me, yeah yeah,
My last one yeah getting
we pissed off during
a basketball game that they don't call carrying anymore, calling eclairs doing like pointing out the tv and say that's a care
it's absurd. That was a moment for me where it's like. I am I'm my dad at this point. I remember how mad he got
when, when Alan iverson was playing yeah, it's like these are illegal. These are all illegal moves that is making right now that the cousin of that one instead he's like I actually do get mad when a player like could lay it off
and they duncan stead and mess and unlike for can lay of councils Deborah
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baseball hall of fame voters voted on the mba hall of fame. James harden would not make them because he's well his step on it. He wouldn't make it in his step accident that they'd be like a step extra travels in the foul bay to all that stuff he's not yet, but we're still. Your last pick.
Kay it's kind of it's the same thing, but it's maybe different. It's getting horny Jim slash! The older less filtered cousin going
the gym to get horny yeah getting it because when I'm at the gym and granted, you know there's time, especially like where I live you're like holy shit, but I'm there for my reps all right, I'm there working
but there's a few times. You, like, oh my god, like look at her, but then there's that next level, a guy who's like
hey, you see her, your guy fuckin saw she's gorgeous and everybody can see her so fuck, you
a bro,
and then he's weird and then,
The next version is like the guy made bent his day. Operators kickin some cardio around and he goes only to look at women and
that's a level I don't know, but I'll ever get to. Who knows maybe ogilvy. That's gonna, be you do like throwing arose a treadmills and that guy goes to the back row
every single one of our partners do last periods get my my last one is
staring at the horizon at the beach
at the beach in you're standing there and you're just looking off in the horizon. This is something I notice when I go to the beach dudes in their twenties are playing spike ball and they're fucking, throwing the football around
and then you ll see like an old dude who's got his hands on his hands and he just looking often the horizon once it is, I drew up in europe. Is that is also the. If you ever caught yourself, we, like you, gotta company,
EL. The sunset.
Those are the right areas like it's a good is, it is highly likely just turn around with their content desire, leads I'm walking locally and denounce them.
You should all be outside right now know my mom's appeared like contract out this sunset. It's incredible does that every day
I feel like if you're younger and you do this- it's a cry for help cause you're like going through some shit and you want to like just go to the beach and stare in into the distance.
But overdoing it just like a regular part of life. Like every time I go to the beach, I see the same guy I started. I get the point. I was watching the old men watching the horizon, like what the fuck is. This guy. No like he looks like he's insult.
our galaxy, I think so
yeah. Look whatever due to doing it comes as double like. I think the cool thing like before
start reading, I'll go. Take a deep breath. Look around
Little bit backing
I'm fine, I'm actually five like I'm here, I'm going to sit down and is being like
what can soak it in for five minutes before you start cranking away on
the cargo holds you doing you dont warm for reading
Can the mind ready.
This will greatly pre work out. You guys, wanna, guess a number
guess a number of the sun
I'll go seventeen. What you guys want to guess.
I was gonna, get seventeen that so fucking weird
only twenty seven seven.
When two seventeen is hanks number twenty in what is yours. Myths
twenty one.
What are you max? Twenty two.
Wow. I max you are one away undermine first place citing for a moment
Well, thank you guys. Were you
I have to have a kid. Do another one of these nose game, yeah, yeah,.
We pray appreciated his right. There's no games, then these are always our favorite thou. So thank you guys, prescience. Let me just say that in its infancy
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