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I guess, giving NBC Vaughan VON healthier than new nickname over the weekend in iowa, the former president answering questions about the twenty twenty election and whether or not he would take a plea deal. It comes as a georgia prosecutor will begin presenting her case to a grand jury this week, setting up a fourth possible indictment for the form president. Speaking of iowa florida governor ron Desantis did not have a great time there. This weekend he was heckled several times by trump supporters and trolled by former presidents campaign. Also, I had a special council is appointed in the deal jason. esther of hunter Biden explained that new development plus an update on catastrophic maui wildfire, which is now the deadliest in law. history, Joe the scenes out of Maui archest staggering dear what

gradually unspeakable tragedy, and it seems to have been a perfect store. fire sorting. Two places the winds blowing weeping around a lot of people saying they should have turned off the electricity, but you know the responsible officials, that's how they were keeping the water pumps going. It really was right again just a perfect storm disaster of unspent proportions. For that, the people there and we're gonna be covering that obviously, across a four hours, also allow going on in politics this past weekend. I almost have a bar fight between the sanders and trump people at one point which actually started is crazy. I've. I think, first time Jonathan we're in the history of of politics. It a bourse fight, started and one sided, you know, you know you- you lost the campaign and then

and he did not from there when the dishonest people said that to the trump people, but you know you ve been the position of vaughn hillyard, getting shouted down by the president, the united states. Here, the former president, the united states calling him a wise guy for suggesting what every attorney criminal attorney I've to his said. Donald trump needs to do, and that is due a pleaded he's box. Then these box stand because He has so many charges against him, as his own supporters of said, one conviction on one of those seventy seven, seventy eight charges basic amounts to a life sentence. So yes, if he is not talk. about a possible plea, deal right now, he's not a wise guy at all. In fact, he's quite dom. He can't be his way out of this, which is, of course what he's done since

for seventy five and somewhat psyches thinking he's fighting against the new york post and eighteen. Seventy seven This is so much different and it is so deeper and he's not going. Able to be ass. His way out of this first moment wise guy, not terribly unflattering, nickname. As far as these things go troublesome called me so sleaze bag. Esteem that I don't have what it takes. I mean he's no shortage of insults from donald trump headed my way- and I know everyone else in this show- has gotten them too, but you make a good point that this is donald trump throughout most of his life has issues motto and bluffing and just flat out lying to escape trouble. He as a new york real estate developer, he became a celebrity. He became wealthy. He got a tv show and then of course ventured into politics and became president and After hitting the building, of course, ministration dog by scandal after scandal, he suffered very few consequences until, of course,

the election and then he was impeach twice, but even then he returned to this gilded life. Here, lives and moral ongoing lives in bed. Minster here one who is still in demanded political rallies. He still famous enrich all of those things, but this time the consequences are different and in its important to have this conversation these charges in georgia looming, because in space federal cases and look his bank shot strategy, The wind is to be elected and then to make those go away to self pardner. To tell his attorney general to squash us instigations. He can't do that in georgia, and there may be it's a staircase. He can't pardon himself and he is now his usual tactics aren't going to work and he is simply unable to adjust facing potentially contempt charge in federal case do you because he keeps posting about the judge in about witnesses, and he is someone who is for the first time may actual face consequences that will change his life. Why

it really does seem as if he doesn't get it because again, He's going up the judge, as it is as if in the deep cases if he wants to be brought up on contempt charges, and again, he has one that in politics, by disrupting by being the great disruptor again he ran against a bunch of people in sixteen that had no clue how to respond to that They were whenever they were on the debate stage. They were on in donald trump domain. He owned the stage. She knew how to work the cameras. He knew how to work the crowds at something bigger than you, and I saw and our years knowing him beforehand. They know how to do that. Federal, is so completely different and if he's thinking then he can abuse the judge. He can start riots. He can make a mockery of that process federal judges not going allow that to happen, and in fact, no

rural judge would allow that to happen when we look at what other than the one that he has in south florida? We look at the very concerned. eleven circuit, no nonsense. All business on those appeals coming up from can- and you look at the united states supreme where did I'm jobs? Is my supreme court on everyone? these issues. These challenges There are no nonsense. They reject trumps statements, it's gonna, weapon again and, as Jonathan brings up, we ve got a georgia indictment most likely looming according to news reports on tuesday wednesday, we can be talking to the atlanta journal constitutions, Greg blue, seen in a man about that, but one that comes up even even him getting along impress the united states if he still thinks he has a chance of that, doesn't help georgia. He can't pardon himself for a snake conviction which again

there is pretty ramming pretty overwhelming so get right. Now, let's go back to what proper stalking bout with withal Hilliard calling him a wise guy. If he's not thinking about a plea deal he's living on another planet, because is in such great legal generally and as papers. morning this weekend and, of course it makes sense. You get four five indictments coming your way plus all of these civil charges. He's running out of money. Well, I talked to Vaughn next hour. I will say one reason why he may not be thinking of a plea deal or wanting to consider that as this is a man who is what faced seventy seven years of his life, of no consequences of all being able to skirt the loss. but the rules skirt the boundaries skirt, the nation, all the ethics of something he's found

a way to get around everything that he has put in his that he has chosen not to whether it be corrupt or a crime. say how, but it's definitely heating up, because he is not backing off along with jonathan le maire, Joe and me, we have former a aid to the georgian They wish white house and state department, Elise, Jordan, founder of the conservative website, the bulwark charlie sites and former you, the attorney and senior fbi official chop rosen and, as we were just meant stunning, as he awaits possible charges and georgia, which could happen this week. Trump is already testing the limits of a new protective order put in place in the federal election interference case against him, this is the one of course playing out and washington can t now in court on Friday. Judge tanya chuck can ruled that going forward, France lawyers must review any notes he takes, while looking at sent

materials to make sure he is not copying down personal information about witnesses. She also pro here did him from having a phone out while reviewing those materials. For the same reason, prosecutors requested the order after trump started, attacking potential witnesses, special counsel, smith, and even the judge herself on social media on Friday judge chuck can warned the former presidents lawyers that While it has a first amendment right to free speech, that right is not salute. She added that the more a party makes inflammatory statements about case, the greater the urgency will be that we proceed to trial quickly. Listen to those words despite trump's lawyers, insisting that he would quote scrupulously abide by the conditions of his release. it didn't take long for the former president assembling star,

breaking the rules on social media last night. In addition to calling Jack Psmith a low life prosecutor, the former president, when, after that dodge herself sharing opposed with her photo and a caption, falsely claiming that sheep openly admitted she's running election interference against trump later on. He wrote that she was quote very I asked and unfair and that she obviously wanted him before bars last night the the attorney catch ya'll posted quote. It would not surprise me if judge chuck can called a hearing with troms presents given his new remarks and joe, I mean. Isn't he pushing this morning that ban as best interest to push this to the limit? No it's not in his best interests to with There's here's the thing get diaries a thing: we will we

we are all so accustomed to donald trump say outrageous things and getting away with it It's like we were accustomed to guy that was lying about sandy hook. Parents say willie outrageous things about everybody yet billion dollar settlement, tucker corals and law involves news, saying the most outright. Just things about everybody on and off camera, and where I go, Guess you just get away with that! Now no bitten! why? Because the great levelling wind is a duty she'll system, it's it's! The third branch of government donald trump again thinks that he's fine the fight against the new york posted nineteen. Seventy seven, he thinks he's fine being against Marco rubio. When the two thousand sixteen primary election. He thinks he thinks

fighting against clueless people like you and me on on news that they can set up is you know I set up strong men and not come down to you, you can say what you, what about a lovely? Country lawyer, that happens to fall off a turnip truck outside and thirty rock and get a tv show for a couple of years. You can not do that too. Federal judge, especial federal judge who is unanimously selected by the EU. I did state Senate, I think a ninety eight to nothing, confirmation and perhaps one of the most respected judges in the district. So am I wanted in shock here, you may agree with me shock, but where I, come from you safe use. You start lying about federal judges and posting their pictures.

by the way where I come from some bad things have happened in alabama. The federal judges in the past. They ve been blown up when they tried to open packages in their home, federal judges have and Andy federal judges, don't take these these sort of accusations, threats lightly, so curious. What what may lie ahead for MR tromp and given your years of experience in the federal court? What would and any other criminal defended that that behaved. This way, found his nose at a federal judges ruling. Will first Well, let me tell you what lies ahead for MR trump the road whereon is obviously bumpy and messy, but the roadway leads to a federal court house and a trial and a jury where MR trumped up

control the rules or the venue, that's where it leads and whether he began its fine if he pleaded guilty, but from the perspective of a pro the killer- is also fine. If he doesn't know, I probably tried fifty or sixty. Criminal cases because fifty or sixty some odd defendants didn't wanna plead guilty. Fine, ok, so be it we get paid either way. We the trial. So even though it's gonna be ugly and nazi, and even though he's going to push the limits he's going to end up in a federal court room in trial. pursuant to the rules of law on evidence that he doesn't control. That's where this goes now the hard thing for the judge really for everyone. Cares about the fur administration of justice between now and then is that it is going to be hard keep this guy in line week at that the judge understands

There are great, aided radiated graduated punishments that she could impose chicken order a gag rule. She can hold him in contempt if it gets really bad by the way. Prosecutors have of solution they ve superseded charges in the southern district of florida and he's going after witnesses harassing intimidating them. They can charge him two and supercede the indictment in Washington d c one way or the other Joe. This leads to a federal court room and new he does not control. At the same time, chuck. I just want to know if any other defendant had behaved. This way, what would be happening to them right now, because I feel like tromp will push them. to the limit, knowing his past behaviour, has pattern in every other situation, he's been in his life. Even in legal situations, we saw him and affirmation law suit. He is, he is on

stop a bull in terms of his relentless abuse of the truth and The rules- and this wonder again back to initial question: anyone also any other defendant who has done what he has done over the weekend. Would they be treated differently. Yeah, you know so it's hard to compare him to every other defendant, because I have never seen any other defendant Micah who behaves the way he does. When he's a he's, a vile and narcissistic man, many defendants, most defendants overwhelmingly so abide by court orders, but again the has tools and her tool belt to address its now. She has to be careful. The man's running for president, whether we like it or not, is running from president and he entitled to his first amendment political speech, as any Their candidate would be, and I don't think she wants to step on that, but there will be orders he might violate. If he does MIKE

I says that he will be treated like any other defendant who violates the order. There will be sanctions again. She could impose a gag order. She can hold him in civil contempt. She could see criminal contempt and the department of justice can supersede if he actually ex additional laws so yeah in the end mika- and I believe this may be complete be wrong, but I believe this he will be treated like any other defended. then you, Charlie sykes, you know a federal judge or to yourself feel free to answer any those previous questions at that I passed and shock, but also as checks, he's gonna end up and federal court, and there are few. If you wish, did the judges instructions in their last hearing, it's going sooner rather than later. the more he acts this way she said. as the greater the requirement to speed up the process. So suddenly we're looking

january trial. If there's a conviction of february, you know possibly conviction by by february. I Imagine the appeals court bragging things out too long, then most appeals courts are I refer back to the trial judge. He could facing the music by sprang. Numb into touch point I mean, none of this is normal and we shouldn't pretended. That is normal, but this is really an amazing stress test for the american judicial system because down from is daring the judge he is beating the judge no to make as point it is happy going to see how far he can. He can push this because Maybe he wants to be a martyr, but what I think is resting will be a booby to watch how she response to all of this I've been using getting chucks views on whether or not the judge. What of actually finding him in contempt of fort can call him in, and his lawyers in indoor courtroom and say mister

I would like you to explain now what you mean by these statements. Ask him point by point, except What you mean articulate now, I'm I'm I'm not a lawyer, I'm not sure what to how the fifth amendment applies to this. But during a hearing like this, does she Billy d say. Would you explain union always explain why you should not be held in condemned or short of that say walk through this tweak or this bleak. You know What were you saying? What are you implying here? Does she have the ability to do that? Is that possible it truly great question, so I think she can certainly call that hearing she can summon. Sir trump and his lawyers. She can put the questions to the lawyers she can put it to mister Tromp. There might be a fifth amendment issue with him answering some of those questions and his lawyers may intervene, but you know I found that one federal judges get really really really mad. They

often don't want to hear from the parties they want to tell the parties something in this case knock it off, because the next thing that happens his contempt and the thing that happens after that by the way this is always a possibility. Is that if you dont all I wonder, if Charley I revoke your mail bell is an act of race is granted the people who obey court orders it premature stay out of prison pending trial? That's an active grace. If she can He continues to disarm the judge to push the judge, the flat her orders that can be revoked elite. Course, as active graces bestowed upon someone who is currently running for president, and even if as we detail, the top of the show was headstrong and filet. He can say we want and suffers no consequences. You'd thing, At least some lawyer in his ear saying to him, you know mister trump like this could get you in jail, but but he's

the relentless any, is a series of posts? Last night about the judge about the case he put up her picture, certainly to this point in the gnp primary its work for him to play the victim to alight age. Do speaks deep state conspiracy against them he's trying to cardigan here now, but this is really really risky. Isn't boogie look back donald trump during twenty sixteen, and there would be various points in mean granted. They were fleeting, but I think in august or so of the election as it near it. Against Hillary Clinton heat modulated, behavior just teenty little bit and saw an accompanying rising in the polls and so it does have the ability to control himself, a teensy little we want to, but clearly he doesn't see any political advantage to that war even in a legal risk really just given the way is behaving. What I still find

Black scene. Is that, with this whole plethora I mean just grab bag of charges against him, no geo p p Mary candidates are really using nato. All you look I await you know you get from rhonda santas a very tepid. Oh, he lost the election. that's about as extreme as it's going when they have so much material and they could say, listen too much baggage this guy just signed good look at something else, but instead you stay out. Tromp has been able to completely annihilate rhonda santa, by this stage, because Really it is just trying to be a repackage tromp, just like all the other most of the other candidates except Chris Christie, while this way after more than two years of investigating district attorney funny. Well, us will begin. Presenting her election interference case before a grand jury in full in county

a majority of that grand jury will have to sign off on an indictment for this team to press charges against former president trump and or his allies, at least, to wit, is that were subpoenaed by the DA's office have confirmed their scheduled dates to appear former lieutenant governor Jeff Duncan tweeted. saturday that he was scheduled to testify to morrow journalist, george shady also formed his tuesday slot. In an interview with NBC news, former georgia state centre jen, Jordan and former state represent, be when are also confirmed to have received subpoenas diego I have said she will announce any potential charging positions by september. First, let's bring in political reporter for the atlanta journal constitution, greg blue stain is also an NBC news, contributor great great to have you we had heard all along that this time frame

was the george, a timeframe for potential indictment, the fact that the folks tat just named or testifying this week. Does it indicate that were still perhaps some time away from possible charges if any Now a german tacitly sit indicates that these could be as early as tuesday I mean we ve, had we ve known for a while that this would be the week where The grand jury could be meeting to tattoo to determine whether or not there could be charges against the former president, his allies. Now we know on the record that Jeff Duncan the former together and lord shooting, the independent journalist about testifying tuesday. So we think the timeline books is early tuesday might not be tuesday, but early earliest tuesday. We could hear an announcement, wonderful district, about these charges, her grace of war through some of the possible charges that donald trump who would face there and whether this particular investigation

some of the others make split band beyond trump and others may also going to bed yeah well, this is this- is an investigation, could very well expanded, is believed to be to expand beyond donald trump, his inner circle too. members of the fake elector group in georgia to others who tried to overturn this election results in the is charge were looking out, potentially is real. charges. A funny were listed you're to turn a hearing for county is an expert we go charges, she's use them. Six fully in atlanta public school cheating case in the these are expansive charges that has been used not just against organised crime but street gangs, but she's cheese, pursuing charges involving round groups right now in atlanta can involve rico charges and They could also be used against donald trump. She is, she is employed experts in go charges to two out this

instigation, and look that's asking why we're looking at charges beyond donald trump about twenties or so folks, twenty or so people involved in the in the effort to undermine Joe Biden's victory here in Georgia have received criminal target letters. Eight of them at least eight of them they're fake electors have agree to immunity deals, but that another dozen or so on the table. Hi everyone, it's jen, psaki, I'm excited to tell you that weekly show on MSNBC inside with Jens aki is also available as applied past. I know from the EU I spent on campaign buses and foreign capitals and in the oval office that there is always more diverse story. Under the surface I may show we try to bring you inside all of it breaking down the things that matter and visiting with some of the most fascinating people in the news today. If we, are not pro active about theory aggressively addressing our infrastructure. Our workforce are preparation for the crime

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and I did it at the end of this week as where it is a pity that he will be. We will have the floor, one for the revolver get nomination for president out on bail? or differ jurisdictions. New york, miami, washington and Atlanta, when I think republican voters have to ask themselves is two things: first is is he really the guy under David and forty four cases give him the conduct that he committed somebody who can be Joe Biden or any other democrat in november. Only twenty four, and when are we gonna? Stop pretending that this is normal. That's the question asked every day I assume you do too as well check, but in terms of georgia, from what we know so far and the names of the people that we just looked at, who are still testifying, though, to have received immunity deals. What can we? What can we do?

from that in terms of what the charges might be against trump, if there is a possible indictment which appears likely and also tagging on the end here, if judge in DC or georgia, decides to revoke his bail. How complicated is that with the secret service? Second question: first mika complicated, and I think there are ways to do it. I think logistically, for the secret service, which protects MR trouble, it becomes very complicated. She could also revoke his bell and put him under house arrest, which would be the worse for him in a little bit easier for the secret service. On the first question based on the excellent reporting of grey and his colleagues it looks like rain charges are by possible. What makes it so Interesting is that unless a prosecutor go broad like conspiracy charges, but let's across Here are sweeping lots and lots of conduct your car.

created a federal rico statute. Nineteen, seventy george was one of about three dozen stayed set model that its state rico statute on the federal rico statute, georgia pass its statute and nineteen eighty, but georgia won broad georgia added more predicate access can be swept into a rico charge than men. Their states and even more than the feds, and so what might see out of georgia. Reporting is accurate and it often is arch Charges brought hated on rico, but the acts would involve boss. events, forgeries and other words much of the conduct related to the slaves of fake elect towards that were in numerous states but including in georgia. So it it's a great tool for prosecutors. It allows them to sweep in a lot of conduct and in georgia in particular, it allows prosecute.

There's two fell short of more broad, born more broadly then their federal counterpart so very interesting thing to watch. The interesting thing mika is: what will the designated? the prize, be as gregg mentioned, your enter I can be you Atlanta teachers. It can be biker gang could be drug cartels, in this case the criminal enterprise, It will be the trunk campaign, when you beat it once again. What do we hear about it? Coming out of georgia dislike out of DC fake electors, surprise joint scheme to actually take people's right to vote away from them. People vote and then had the appropriate electors going to washington DC donald trump and all the people there We've heard about the d c case decided to defraud not only those voters but but the united states congress and present fake

There's it's what my pants refused to do, but again, Fraudulent scheme has nothing to do with the first amendment. You dont have a first amendment right to get on the phone and still people's identity, They give your grandmother's. Identity is stolen by by some some group that they deserve a scam fraudulent. if they're one court talking about them, the first a member right to call your grandma and still are money. Now you can't call grandma steal the money, hide behind the first amendment, any more than you can get to There were some really stupid people an end and come up with is fake, elect scheme and try to defraud voters. It just doesn't have jobs will be. I know, you're the next question, but I'm just you're gonna wait. We happened. baseball today, so a great opportunity to talk baseball, I'm looking at all the play? says, we're donald trump was indicted. Chris Christy's talk about it in new york. I am.

And they say in Atlanta I mean come on- you get the braves you got your mouse, you get. Marlins he got the nationals who the red sox desk. We need to sweep over the next three days. Donald trump and indicted, in every city where there is national wiggys team, except fill it We keep your eyes on the phillies there women at its sitting of brotherly love is investigations are rapidly up, as we say, hey, there's the american. These standards generally markedly gaze you'll singly, whereby the less we ll see the wherein forthwith eleven games out, but to open the accused, but at the national and EU standards were to come up right now or in a moment. You would see that for those parts it is indeed haven't per donald trump is facing charges. Maybe your business than ball parks shuttling from your to courthouse sometime,

sprang so so grand. Let's talk, though, about the city, you, about the branch you also by the way bestia basis demolishing the this weekend, including a twenty one, two three score: yes, over the mass over the lowly lowly lowly new york mets give us just a lay of the land that we've talked about the proceedings, but talk to us about the security prep and what law enforcement is doing there and as the eyes of the world, as have been, and these other national ye cities in months ahead of months before The eyes the world or on atlanta this week the fine willis, has made preparations for this for literally months right now The court has been that surrounded by barricades for several days. Many staff prison in working from virtually from home. Since last week was all sorts of security precautions roger being closed, all sorts of named search security precautions as well, because Bonnie, willis and her staff is received. what to threats, not just from donald trump and

and in the allegations he's made the false allegations he's made, but also some of his supporters, and so it is a high security cordon in downtown atlanta right now it's going to be there's going to be a tons of media camped outside the courthouse. they'll be watching for anyone walking in and out of that court house and in case there's other witnesses. We have not yet reported who were walking into that tend to be supported, all right. Thanks so much political report for the land journal constitution greg staying. Hopefully we will be talking to you again very soon so charlie and analyse just really quickly what want to get your final thoughts. This block over what Chris Christie just said. You ve got the republican front runner with four indictments. against him in miami and atlanta possible, I d say end up in new york, and- and this is where the republican still steadfastly clinging to and yes clinging to today's world

when they have a lot of other choices out. There First of all, can I point out that if Donald trump does come to Milwaukee next week, he could actually pick up a milwaukee brewers game wonky bourgeois leading the nl west. You forgot to mention that, but I mean look at donald trump's residence right now. You'll have go ahead. I'm sorry the arm and three and a half games ahead of the cubs, which is a big deal here? That isn't big. So look at donald trump's resume. He federal. During his found him reliable for sexual assault, he's facing charges for fraud, conspiracy, obstruction. Now I could tearing. He has been charged with violating the espionage act and the republican fuel cannot figure out how to run against him. Well, understand is, can forget you, what issues could I possibly use to beat him which tells you a lot about the other candidates, but also tells you a lot about the state of the republican he's right now

his numbers have gone up, every time that he has been in the died- and I dont know so I think that that will change after the floor and andrea. Georgia charges come now, but it is this extraordinary, heredity, extraordinary and abnormal moment. When someone facing that many charges there are that serious, really is continuing to dominate the republican party an He continue to want to buy this ticket into twenty twenty four herself. This is, normal and it's not rational. Charlie nails it when he talks about how every other candidate is just cowering down to donald trump, and just reminds you so much of twenty sixteen in the primary when every so many candidates thought that donald trump would just proof go away one day and he never did and donald trump is still leading in new here, neck and neck with down with Biden.

national polling and by our own, for college system. That means is that we had the election today. He would probably when kay former EU us attorney chuck Rosenberg. Thank you very much, and thanks for that bodily is that, as we continue here on morning, Joe still, I had republican presidential candidate took their campaigns to the irish state fair over the weekend. Look alike to demand for a recap, including the not so warm welcome for florida, randy santas plus republic, and once clamouring for a special council to investigate hunter Biden are crying a foul. Now that one, why has been appointed one relax, and why they got exactly what they wanted I had a look at the devil's look at the devil. In this morning in hawaii, as merely one hundred lives have been lost and what is now the deadliest wildfire in modern american history we'll get alive

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guess to try and get a cell evacuate us no were mad. Nobody just lose our homes less our town lost history. You know our kids are traumatized. Yes, master real Bad hawaii emergency officials have said sirens upon the island word activated during the fire. No other alert my phone and broadcast- were having seen that storm. We have. We have doubts that much could have been done with the fiery fast having fire like that, the scale of the devastating loss now unprecedented in modern times the deadliest, while fire in the? U s in more than one hundred years, claiming at least ninety three lives just so you know three percent. That's what's been searched with the dollar

Three percent only pick up the remains and they fall apart, and so, when you have two hundred people running through the scene? Yesterday, I dunno how much more you want me to describe it. That's what you're stepping on as FEMA and the governor survey the damage search teams with cadaver dogs. that just arrived. Maui now scouring the ruins of historic le hyena. Again, are you saying we're just at the beach of this disaster show for the first few days done: searches in the streets and the cars that were in the air, but we couldn't enter any structures. I police officers to train to go chase guys respond, robberies, take reports which are not trying to go enter smouldering structures to go. Look for human remains. The questions are also amount to over the cause of the blaze, which is still under investigation with fbi evidence, recovery teams, now, one scene and a new path.

Actually lawsuit alleges the destruction could have been avoided if the utility company had the energized its power lines ahead of the high when whether in a statement, hawaiian electric saying the utility doesn't comment on pending litigation, adding in part that high when protocols were followed and then at this, we stage no cause for the fire has been determined. This is true for hundreds of families to focus remains their missing love once and now a demand for answers. We're not leaving others are leaving our town. It would make a better coming another revealing look in america's education systems and the connections between a leaf colleges and well these students will discuss the role that family income and legacy satis play admission stave, ratner, a standing by me.

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So, let's move on now. A recent study is reinforcing the long standing, roars, shovin and reality that, Dron from wealthy families are more likely to be admitted to a lead schools than the average applicant. This act, this room court banned the use. ray space to ferment of action in a missions. The research by three prominent Economists shows that obviously schools, one in six students has parent. The top one percent joining us now former treasury official morning geo economic analyst, Steve, Ratner surrender it through this cause. There's three categories: you're, looking at in terms of schools. Shortly Yeah, look! It's an interesting study and obviously care parents are getting now ready to apply to schools again we just how that supreme court decision about a firmer of action. So let's look at how rich people in some other people fair at these schools. So let's compared here,

three groups, as you said, of schools in this little dotted line down here, what they call flagship public schools places like universe to virginia university of Michigan. High quality put berkeley highquality puppet. Holding you can see that your choice, some getting admitted regardless, we're your income are roughly about the same all the way down from the bottom to the very top. If you, if apply to its called an ivy, plus an ivy kind of quality school year. Answers remain at roughly the same until you get up here to the top one percent, the top point one per and then suddenly your chances ago on one point three times the average two point two times the average, but now Let's talk about what happens if you're a legacy, if you ve got a parent or a close relative I went to one of these schools and what happens to your chance of getting admitted every single income level, your chances, substantially higher from three times, but at the very top the income level, your chances of up to five times and

point. Three times is likely to get admitted if you're a legacy, and you have high income at these schools now something that people also don't Really appreciate is that rich people actually can get. recommendations out of high school. So if you look at ashcombe look ratings in high school, regardless of your income, roughly the same If you look at your non academic ratings coming out of high school, the richest people have a much our chance one and a half times the chance of getting a recommendation for their non academic activities, one and a half I'm getting a better guidance, counselor recommendation, one and a half of the one point three times of getting a better teacher recommendation. You know: Steve It is very interesting and looking at this- and it's not really pricing on many fronts, I will say the last thing that you showed about ratings:

We know the academic advisers we ve all dealt with academic advisers with all were dealt with guidance councillors and teachers. This why is no there's? No part of that, where you know pair sir, going and say: hey we're rich write, something nice for for my kid or data that the thing I found coming from Emily yeah grew up cross a deep sigh, Then everything the thing that shocked me was when it was time to take the same tee, but I said: hey, you've got the s. A t tomorrow is that ok, she gave me a couple of pencils and I went and took the s a t, and that was it. She just I mean most middle class americans? It's not that it's, not the blood sport that it is and in by colleagues a lot of elite communities where you know yet I've read that kids like five six, seven years old. It's it's just it's absolutely crazy and they start price.

Being for the ass a tea at these bizarrely early ages, it seems to me this just has to do its communities and I guess wealthier communities where just know how to work the process. They know how to gain the process. Why? What does that? We were? How does that play into it we're just. Let me actually go to my third charged for a second and then we can come back to the second chart if you want. So if you look at the what you are referring to hear in this sense, a sort of the pipeline, one of the problems of getting more kids into these schools as a basis boy, don't even take the tests. If you look down here, the way up to the seventieth percentage, the top seventy percent of incomes, fewer than half of kids coming out of high school, actually take the s a and they don't score particularly well for a lot of the reasons you are alluding to in terms of preparation. These kids scores of less than a thousand. Are there s? Eighty you can see there are majority of the kids of wearing come when you get up to the house,

income. This is the top. One percent again, the top one percent. You can see that a higher percentage takes the tests. Eighty nine percent, eighty eight percent scores this is that the fourteen hundred level, which is a level hope you get into an elite school goes up to twenty percent, so there is a big pipeline problem. One of the things people talk about to solve this problem is to eliminate legacy press says that these universities eliminate preferences for certain what I call the lead sports like salad squash. If you did that what these, these researchers found, does that, in fact, the percentage of kids coming the top, would only go down from forty two percent of thirty three percent. Thirty, three percent the kids. These schools would still come from the top five percent, so the question of how you yet more kids from diverse backgrounds. Into schools is actually very complicated. Let me just show you my last try, because this kind of interesting, which is that

it actually there's been work. This study actually help show that it may not make that What's the difference where you go to school and what they did was they compared kids, who got accepted both at ivy league schools and at these very prestigious public schools and they looked at the ones who chose to go to the public universities versus the ivy schools and yeah, go to an ivy school, your chances of getting into a of getting into hop one percent of income go up your chance. The boy knew an elite graduate school go up and your chance of getting ploy by an elite law, firmer investment bank go up, but your income, actually isn't all that difference. Whether you went to an elite public school and also our once monopoly plus accepted both, you can see you end up. Seventy nine percent end up in the in the end, this percentage, eighty one percent- there but a three thousand our income difference between the two. So it's really interesting. How come

Submissions are a factor into results in life. Often Well, I got to say: Jonathan were mere as mercy valid alabama graduate some of my best employees, that ivy league degree cell don't want to knock the ideal way to much here. Comes figures so my best workers, some of my best workers, have have, as you know, the very good also with a wall tied chance, seven years that is aimed at yale, like appropriate answer here, role. Tat again, tires. Is the only answer always but go ahead. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. Don't know, that's that's fine, joe. Obviously it is decent steve. We you have a bonus chart. Actually today and there's a lot of talk in recent weeks about hunter Biden, and I was trying to raise money off of his father's name an influence, and we should again note that broader by never worked in the white house, you know who did jerry cushion jericho

I worked in the white house and you ve got a chart there, the deed the sources of his money? I'll? Let you explain it, but we be noted here. The cushion also his background in real estate, not exactly as a hedge fund magnates or peace broken middle EAST so you're right, Jonathan Jared Christian did work in the white house. He worked very hard. Its becoming as clear what he actually worked hard at because after he left the white house here out and raise three point: one billion dollars, that's billion, with a b for private equity funds and as you pointed out he's not a private equity guy he's a real estate guy. So where does this come from some of what we know filing some, we know from press reports. While we know for fact as he raised the three point: one billion dollars, but we also know for a fact is that only a thirty million dollars of an actually came investors in the united states, all the rest of it is far in money and of that foreign two billion dollars of it

from the salaries and not always come from the south, but the publican psmith fund, which is the sound sovereign wealth funds from which this money came, the board it voted against giving money to gerrard and they overruled by amby ass, who said, give him that billion dollars. I've been in this. As forty years I have ever seen, someone get two billion dollars out of three billion get two thirds of their money from a single vaster, usually a single investor might be a few percent of the fund might be five percent occasional ten percent never seen this another hundred million, we believe came from cutter the two hundred million we believe came from the usa and then this Six hundred and twenty five million that came from foreign investors we don't even know who they are. So what was shared crusher doing in the white house, by the way as a fun fact on january, sex, the famous you're a sex charred chris was in the middle east, steve

heard from a prominent middle east investor couple weeks ago that there's not much out, They on how Jared has actually been able to execute his funding. He's got all this money by, like you and Jonathan set his background is not in private equity and I've. Seen only one news report of a small european investment she's sitting on all this money are the saudis investing with him just to hedge, their bets politically encase trump comes back at all, is the least closer. Your words, not my certainly, a reasonable speculation. Yeah you, haven't seen a lot. I am do allow this money. He has heard some people. I do know that I think you mentioned to me during the break that you'd seen one investment that I haven't even seen. I've seen nothing else about what exactly I want the money. It is no. Well to invest the money over a period of several years. So I don't think we'll control conclusion, yet, but again, we're going

to a guy who's, a real estate, I frankly, not a particularly good one at that was suddenly got through. Billion dollars. Try to do private equity deals, compete against people but in the business a long time- and I wouldn't, if I were the saudis- count on making a lot of money from this anytime soon, just what I as a last question, look at the graph therein that really little tiny sliver to talk, which just one percent, one percent of the money raised is true: I did states investors just based on your ex and how unusual is that extraordinary jonathan I've also never seen that as well. All The private equity business obviously go outside the EU s from money. The middle Sovereign wealth funds have a lot of money. Many private equity funds get money from them, but again be ten twenty percent? Maybe thirty percent of total fun I've? Never It had been ninety nine percent of a fund like this. U s Private equity firms still raise the vast bulk of their money. From? U s?

This is an extraordinary, unprecedented I've never seen anything like it. It is a sign or abner. Thank you go ahead I was going to say as a final point in the education charts the most equitable category was making money. You didn't necessarily have to be from an ivy league and then in this you look at where american investors are going, whom not Jared kushner's yeah, and that is a lot think about steve. Thank you so much thanks for bringing that all to light and welcome back to morning Joe, it's just pass the top of the second, our on this Monday august, fourteenth giant than the mere Elise george charlie sykes, all still with us as All of the republicans running for president made appearances at the iowa state fair over the weekend, but donald trump breathe. visit to the moon same to grab them.

Attention. The former president was there for less than two hours arrive, with about a dozen? U S, house members from florida in a knot, so subtle dig at florida randy santas, who was also their trauma, spend short time talking to the crowd, repeating his lie about the twenty twenty election being stolen. We know we did twenty sixty one. We did much better. I hate to say this. We did much better in, Twenty twenty the election, the polls in iowa and all over the country were up by over fifty points. That's a lot, but we don't want to take any chances we'll be back. Meanwhile wrong dissenters received him. I welcome that the state fair he was heckled by trump supporters throughout the day, including his

Parents with I was governor Kim Reynolds. You know what you know. What we're in iowa and an eye aware. I wouldn't nice. So, let's give everybody! The opportunity to hear at ain't, while you sent was speaking at that event. The trump campaign trawled him paying for a plane, the fly overhead with a banner that red beard likeable wrong. Another has Now to buy our daya west a fair. This we ve back ramos, may wrapping two eminent lose yourself saw was played under his, our side check with the island governor and swamis wet weather, please wrapping several bars, oscar when That's yeah, yeah the words of jean weiler, and will we walk under chalk and flat factory? Please don't

stop, let's bring an increase in its corresponding, how your knees and folding he's a hot topic in georgia, right now covering politics, in iowa over the weekend. Vine, let's I would like to scan Pedro, but I I we don't want to talk about vivax wrapping, we'll just leave that to the side. I do, though, We talk on the show all the time about gravity. Returning right at that donald rob has as completely shattered a lot of political norms a lot of a lot. constitutional norms. Can I say that the cow bell ringing, the distracting if going on the iowa state, fair with the governor of iowa, that sort of seems like a self own, and I that seems like one of those things where people work back. If run, dissenters can actually find his footing.

I'm go. You lot of irish voters state. Just you know may have one trump a moment with with people from new york stories about it, but it actually That ain't iowa nice, I'm curious what your thoughts were, as you saw, these people going around abuse of through throughout the welfare and state that prides itself at being nice, I think Joe you're, absolutely right if Donald trump Not when this I will caucus we'd have to look back to his relationship can reynolds and essentially throwing off the cliff for the mere fact that she isn't it doors seeing him governors have a long standing tradition of not endorsing uncompetitive republican primaries, but you know four donald trump, the last nine years there been no instance of outside of losing the twenty twenty election. A political concept. and of throwing fellow republicans off the cliff. Usually it's those republicans Jeff leg, bob corker list.

any adam pins. In your time rise, you are the ones who ultimately get the boot. Sulphur m is really putting its own political but on the line and Kim Reynolds in his line of fire, suggesting that he doesn't near when you see those images at that I was safe, fair. There are hundreds, thousands of people swarming Donald trump there is the presence of donald trump is powerful, an event like that. The motor aid, which I was writing in it came into the state, fair grounds and its emily shut it down for eighty five minutes it he was on the ground round, a scientist, Nicky hayley vacuum, miss swamis wrapping. None of them have any impact like that ran. The swami was far and away not invited to the main grand stage you know. Actually I speak beyond that presentation. I want let you hear from donald trump himself, because this it's important that we take into a context here. This visit of his took place just four hours after that hearing, in which judge in Washington DC told him through not create

carnival like atmosphere around the sittings awaiting him. It's part of this criminal trials stemming from the federal charge. That he faces, and, of course this was just before here. He faces a potential forth and diamond important county. I the chance, asked the former president a few questions. Signals present from the june elections. There s a bleeding georgia, wiseguy wise radio, You know the answer to that again. That was donald trump response to my question: did you intend to overturn the twenty twenty? of course, that Tensions are at the heart of its federal charges and potentially estates just hear pending as soon as tomorrow, here out of golden county georgia job

so so the from everything you saw on the ground of energy. We see around donald trump, about the santas. This a guy who desperately trying to find, is He still has wide six months, five months to go before the Ok, so you know. The old saying goes a week. Is a lifetime in politics and we have seen time and time again since we started doing this. Show people moving quickly the last week in the polls. I'm curious: what are you? Got from the saddest from the energy around there second, a one county chairman who was actually a county chair for tat, bruce eight years ago is now a county chair, verandah santa's, and he insisted to me that the robust operation that ted that put in place. For that surprise, I will talk, is victory eight years ago is in place for iran to santis and she's here is: does Rhonda santa's busy

The person Does he have the ilo charisma to wins what, across these ninety known colonies, like ted crews, ultimately was able to do our mind folks that enough over twenty two thousand cruz was just at six percent so run. Said, tsar already working from a better position here, Rhonda santa's he has the backing yes financial backing here, but does he have what it takes to eclipse, I'm not sure what and tell you here joe- is that at least rhonda santa's is try. He had more than it does in advance over them. seventy two hours across iowa beside the hours that he spent with his family at the I state, fair grounds run disk This is putting in the work that it would take to make run at winning. The kok is, of course, a donald trump. I've talked to a great number, Publicans- and I were new hampshire donald trump wins. I will caucus it's hard to see how rhonda service or anybody else as any viability here moving forward, but in a like iowa ron, rhonda santa

and the efforts of having ninety nine county chairs and actually putting in that effort, could reap benefits ten whose was down by about ten percentage points, did catch. Crews in I will poles just before the iowa caucus eight years ago here. So as long as we're understand, it can get himself within fighting rain. She's got a shot, but right now, when you look at those donald trump was falling in. I just still have hard time reckoning. the idea that donald trump is not the odds on favorite to pull off a cock is victory by the sheer amount of I support that he has across the stay right now he's he certainly does seem to be so unfavourably. We Whither year of year, several caviar said, I may add, five may MIKE. How could be too that another caveat a lot of people? calling terribly in august the year before the carcass who ended up winning going away, so we still have a long way to go here and be sees VON

Thank you. So much state fair, is usually the state fair. Joe is right. The informal kick off for the reply, in primary. But who do the thing in so many ways thing started so much earlier, It seems like we're late in the game, and I dont know what to your points. We may just be getting started right now. we just maybe all right. Thank you so much spawn guy vonny hilliard. Thank you. might show you gotta get is good as new, nickname the honest since you got up this morning. Have we done anything new trot. Any new foods listening to music or taken a new round. The good news is the days and over access to turn it on and the reinvented lexus our excess. Definitely something you with heart: pounding design, intelligent technology. First ever are Ex five hundred each performance hybrid, never lose your edge with the all new lexus aurex click, the banner to discover more experience amazing your lexus dealer.