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You should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. Make no mistake, those who are responsible for wednesdays chaos, we'll be brought to justice. What do they do now weapon eyes government to go up their number one opponent, the president bears responsibility for wednesdays attack. Those who are responsible four wednesdays chaos will be brought to justice. Well, You wonder who will be brought to justice and the republican party for dragging the republican party to its lowest point ever republican party that now, because Kevin Mccarthy and others like him, now defend a man. Former president, stall, nuclear secrets from the federal government who stole military secrets from the federal government who stole top secret class?

I, by plans from the federal government, too invade iraq, speaker who is perfectly fine. Now, with donald trump sitting back after launching a riots to overcome. The federal government, who said that my gosh said so terrible that I would say something like that kevin Aren't must think that that's the Innovation federal know now make this not the weapon. Is the federal government and as mccarthy thank our Kevin mccarthy's own words, and you will remember too, when Kevin Mccarthy I on the phone on January, the sex- and he called overdone trump years ago- is now saying weapon icing, weaponizing weaponizing government. It was when we currently on January six, in the middle donald trump riots, which is art but refused to stop whose Kevin Mccarthy

call the white house screaming telling him to call them off to call the rioters off and done from said: oh it's, it's aunt he and Kevin. My car. screamed help screamed and help each other brazil told other members about this call. He talked about this call for quite some time You know exactly who they are. Very your people call them off and donald trump refused. So what happened Kevin Mccarthy, says you're gonna be brought to justice, but instead he does it's to attack the people there actually are. trying to bring to justice a man, whose stolen nuclear secrets for the united states government man stolen military secrets federal government want return them and because this is how sick and corrupt the rope

lookin party in Washington d c is now Kevin Mccarthy Finding the very man, no, he said was response. support for these roy at once. You ve heard was house vigour, Kevin Mccarthy, then, and now, when it comes to dull trump and the january sixth insurrection at the capitol we're going new reporting this morning on new potential new indictment. The former present to also ahead the. Why has real life consequences for transit borders in again with more than a dozen people now facing charges for trying to returned the twenty twenty like having they lie, and this is a false electors, climbed, Jonathan or mere, where claiming that their false. You know that they are actual electors and and and making now to it and their shock that they actually going to be brought to justice, but they lied about donald trump,

that state they lied about playing being alike is that they can go to to congress. I mean this entire false electors game MIKE It was shocking when we heard about it but again, It just shows in america the will some justice may turned slowly, but they turn fine and they're going after all of these people who tried to rob americans of which is most precious to this. Country, and that is our own democracy. at these assaults on democracy are not be. Let stand it goes to show the long arm of the law. It's not just me focusing on those who storm the capital. On january six, the events of the last twenty four hours make that clear. trumps seemingly about to face charges himself for trying to fear what that election for inspiring what happened on J or six, and now this

states these false electors who try to two to undo the will of the people to put forth their candidate, their candidate who lost and yet try to cheapest them to keep him in office in this is michigan. There are plenty of other states for one wonders if charges could come to some of these are former republic in state officials, others just everyday citizens, but everyday citizens who bought the lie and push like the analyses consequences. Why and again you look at others It's gonna sit said. Donald trump was desperate to get people in other states. to put themselves up to commit persians. it they were the actual electors when they were not and in so doing, to annul thomas. What even more people and legal jeopardy again, you think about all the people right now, working class americans middle class americans that went washington on january, the six, because their president told them that the election was stolen. He was lying, of course, any new.

But he was lying, but he did anyway, because you wanted to stay in power at all, costs of those people now in jail. The question is: are we land that I'll billionaires the virus on seven fifty seven jets that have gone courses all over the world. Are we going to allow them to actually push other people did you do the most unspeakable axe to the cops I got through to overturn the federal government trash united states, capital of people's house epicenter of freedom across the globe and led him continue to go about their merry like man's above the law? Now, no and it is about time you I'll drop is look out for what he on january. The sex, just like Kevin Mccarthy, said he should on JANET the seventh. Just like me the graham said he should just like he hayley said he should just like all of these republicans.

Said he should before they lost their courage, We are also following the latest on the american soldier who still on costs, This morning, in north korea to trying to ball to cross the border, the latest on and israel's president is in washington this war, after meeting with president Biden yesterday at the white house. He might take a trip down to mar a lago before heading home to recover some of his country's ancient artifacts, explain how they reported lay ended up at trumps country Jonathan, only remember that that nazi collector and in raiders is illogical. Art ass. He go still a night donald trump like life imitates art. so the israelis come over. They have some jewish facts, they place in the white house, from still some So these tells military secrets. Just

these sales. Nuclear seekers. takes in the Mari more illegal any Give him back here. It's not like Donald trappers. any history at all, hang on to things he shouldn't have and bring them to his palm beach resort. This does feel like it's the maybe this is the plot for that new indiana jones sequel, that's in the theaters right now. Indeed, the backstory here is israeli officials for a ceremony at the white house schedule for two thousand and nineteen brought over a number of of ancient artifacts sacred candles, some of them hundreds of years old. They were at the white house who never actually displayed because they were I am concerned that they may have come from the west bank, but they were kept at the. Why asked the pandemic hits they got boxed up? Actually we're supposed to be returned to the israeli government. They weren't they end up. Our logo, somehow its unclear, how the weaken, hazarded good guess, I suppose now

this is the number of seats israeli officials have petitioned trumps team have tried to go to morrow. I want to get them back and have been reversed It's gotta. Try has hung onto these ancient artifacts. Just added to the list. Put it on smith docket. Next, literally is unbelievable, and yet it is they want to stop the trump team. Americans to believe that he doesn't take stuff that, his. They want americans to believe that the people at the capital, carrying tron flags and worrying trumpets had nothing to do with trump as to why they were there and in a wasted here, and why It's almost ludicrous what's happening, although it appears the wheels of justice are the attorney for him again. I want to underline again working class, kids middle class in their eyes followed donald trump there sitting in jail net with their lives. Their lives saturday shattered because Donald trump destroyed because of donald trump and he's still,

wandering around the world and his seven. Fifty seven prevention artifacts also wasn't feeling what actual artifacts from Israel former age that george w bush white house and state department, at least jordan, former chairman of the republican national committee, Michael stale and former? U s attorney and Emma suddenly a legal, analyse, Joyce vans and rational investigations or border for the wash em past. Jackie many is with us this morning great to have you all on board with us, let's typewriter, to the new developments in the store that broke. While we were on the air. Yesterday morning, two sources confirm to NBC news that former president Donald trump received a letter. special counsel, jack smith this week, informing him that he is the target. federal investigation into efforts to overturn the legitimate results of these twenty twenty election. Those efforts and clear but are not limited to the january. Sixteen How come the united states capital, although it

I latter does not definitively mean a person will be charged in most cases. It is a precursor to an indictment Joyce Vance, tell us why this is so significant? Well, it's particularly significant in this case, its corrected in a normal situation. When prosecutors send out a target letter, it means that they anticipate to pay that thereabout to charge that individual, in a high profile matter like this, you can be certain that Jack Psmith thoroughly considered what evidence he had his charging decisions were going to look like before he issued this letter this guy and he used to almost a moral certainty that jack smith will charge donald trump we'll see next will be. The typical process were lawyers. We'll try to engage. I think its extraordinarily unlikely that will permit trumped to testify.

Part front of the grand jury. If there's any way to restrain him from doing that, but the lawyers will want to have a conversation with prospects It is that justice and perhaps want to appeal their decision to indict to merit garland, that's what the next week or so will look like that I suspect, will see an indictment so Nor is any more details you can provide, given what we know- and we know that its very limited, but in terms of what the charges might be pertaining to specifically and where may all play out there. a little bit of reporting about what was in the target letter. But we haven't seen that letter itself and even if we have the operate Finally, the sea. It expect the details to be pretty sparse prosecutors to they will say we are considering indicting you on charges involving and then they will list a couple of topics here. The reporting is that the charges may include some form of a conspiracy,

that, there may be charges involving violation of rights and obstruction of asked us, The reality is that, under the federal principles of prosecution, prosecutors are supposed to enlarge the most serious, readily provable crimes, and here there's a lot of hunting. Jack smith will have to be strategic about bringing charges. Leaves he can get in front of a jury without delay. Tell us Jackie. What do you expect even the target letter in? What is your reporting? Tell you about the story? He had to say we actually have yet to confirm. What exactly was in that target letter know, there's a lot floating around out there about some of the more specific icc charges and statutes that are listed. We do know, according to to our reporting, my with my colleagues, perry, stein, Josh Rossi and spencer, sue that there are multiple charges listed but again

The exact of what those span are still a bit murky. We do know that one of them that is most likely included the conspiracy to defraud is, is a charge that has been widely discussed it something in twenty two to that. A federal judge said that John eastman and and former president donald trump were likely guilty of committing. But again the rest of these are still tbd. as for you know, to pay back off of what Joyce just said. Essentially this this target letter indicate to us that an indictment could be coming very soon. It doesn't mean that's guaranteed, but if we look at the morrow logo indictment last time around, there were roughly I'd said: ten on way too early. I apologize John

making. That error was actually twenty days between when the target letter was delivered to president former president trumps lawyers and when he actually received that indictment. So we are a sort of looking at that time frame, but its clear that jack smith is picking up the pace here we have been told that his investigators are still actively interviewing other witnesses. Their knee deep in this investigation, still according to those witnesses in some of the worst representing them, and that first smith, to to rule this out at this time, is up unusual and suggests maybe he's trying to get ahead of some other potential indictments coming. The last question that we are asking around about is: who else has received a target letter who else be receiving a target letter, since this is obviously an enormously fraud in there irrigation, and there were several other key players involved with terms efforts to overturn the results of the twenty twenty election.

by Michael still, you and I both have run for office, both been elected, as republicans politicians, we been surrounded by republican politicians, maybe they're not all saints, may maybe they weren't all saints. Maybe there were a lot of centers there, but you know, I must say looking at Kevin dorothy now and looking at him after january, the six king at a guy who then was saying the Donald trump was responsible for cops, getting the hell beaten out of them responsible for the chaos of january, the six responsible for rights and attempted to overthrow the united states federal government responsible for the trashing of the united states, capital for anna he's going in and smearing ex excrement the united states capital for trying to stop the counting of life. Draw votes, that's income. Fourthly, now coming out and saying that its injustice departments, fault

said after january, the six, these people, Donald trump, these people must be brought to justice. Now that the justice department, as somebody who is trying to bring them to justice, they are actually hacking law enforcement. I guess we both served but about. I must I never met anybody like tat. I really Where did I mean every really got into the bottom? The barrel, where it so bad that you have somebody who knows and who admitted on the house floor. Donald trump was responsible for those riots who is responsible for trying to overthrow the federal govern, in january. The sex who now for political expediency is trying to blame is the sheriff. Come and town to clean things, up, try blame the sheriff for trying to things up yeah,

far more sinners than saints in the situation of the republican party. You- and I know that, while we we watched people that we worked with, that we, in our know, in the in the field of politics with us by side become otherworldly in there in their view of situations like this, that the thing that's the most interesting for Is the transformation in the past are our elected officials in a serious matter like this watergate MR mine, where They would not elevate the politics over the rule of law, the pursuit of justice doing the right thing, as our mama's used to tell us right today, This integration of magua republicanism is all about,

labelling, the politics over all else. Making everything subject to it, because at the at the tipp of the spear is tromp in trump ism, and so that's that's, which use now too, to pierce the veil. justice to take off their blindfold as we saw with the judge cannon in the first trump matter before her trying to sort of game, the system politically or or game the system because of your political interest. That is far From what you and I remember, certainly when you came in the congress and ninety four it was, it wasn't about elevating the politics. It was about elevating the policy,

even when you look at these, these issues, from from justice and and crime and n and criminal behaviour to policies the house and in the senate the politics is, Anna meets the narrative now, and there are no objective players, there's no one who is sitting back. Looking too, all the balls in the strikes, everyone from mccarthy, on down has their finger on the scale to tippit towards donald trump yeah. It's all about power, a meaning bathes. It's all about training. is close to power as possible and we came at a ninety four. There are a lot of positions. We took that maybe a lot of people that, unlike even though they were very popular, most of them, were very popular. The poles after four years. We had a leader that we didn't think was was in hearing to what he promised to do, and so we ran out of town people. You don't do that what we did do that, because

like you said about the policies. I remember saying to note time. I said: listen. My own mother was running this place like you running this place, I would vote I send my mom home, hopefully shit at me for thanksgiving dinner, but if not well, she will just have to deal with it and I said cheerfully. This is very keto. Yeah baby. I just said this wasn't personal. It was about what we promised we were going to do and that's what is that's. What's so our aim here. Elise, you to also worked with republican, serve with republicans. Now we have public and party and again we know that it was correct does john meets him said. We know how bad things were. Elise is is there ass. She has sallies yeah, we'll you. Ok, we now have republicans who or attacking the justice department

because they tried to get nuclear secrets that were stolen back in the house. They were true they get military and secret military power plants to invade iran that were stolen back the white house, Kevin Mccarthy and the republicans see house republicans are attacking the justice to port and the fbi for trying to gay top secret military classified documents back in the white house and now you're trying trying to defend donald trump and they are attacking the justice department and the fbi for doing what Kevin Mccord they told them they needed to do, and that was to bring the perpetrator, that that caused the rioting and the cap skidding, beheld beat now that one january, the six. What did he say? Not them. Demoralize go to get a picture taken

smiling like Kevin Mccarthy did, but to bring the perpetrators to join, this, and he said the house floor, we ve got the tape. The Donald trump was responsible Joe. When you're attacking the refs said in times when you're attacking them for ease you're losing the gang and, if that's the best the argument that republicans have right now and frank It is the only argument they have right now, given how many charges have piled up against donald trump and how many evident how much evidence is out there in the open to see not just with joy or a six. But you look at the charges and georgia where there are recorded phone calls that are so damning for donald trump and his defensive election practice down there, he they are only blaming the rafts, because that's the position, that's the sorry position that donald trump has let them in, and this is it

ticking time bomb for the republican party that may donald trump is going to skirt, pass justice and hill evade justice. Just as he has. pass so many times and maybe he'll still be able to run. You run for president as there looking nominee fight. He could blow up any day, given all the way problems. There are swirling around him and that is the choo choo risk that the party is taking by going for with him as the norm as the likely nominee. well again, they're they're they're choosing to defend again they're choosing to and a guy who sold nuclear secrets are choosing to defend a guy who start you stole military secrets who stole plans to invade iraq in case we need to do invader on their defence if the guy that they blamed afterwards for the riots. On january, the six were trying to overthrow the united states government for trashing the people's house, the united states capitol. They don't have to do that. They can actually so like somebody,

who could well some reason they won't do it. It's it's. Just crazy jonathan mirror, you wrote the book on January, the six. It seems kind of funny, not there bring you in here and put you just to put all the pieces of the puzzle together. Candlelight the red sox, You know trying to put the pieces, puzzled together last night and they couldn't they couldn't hit. The ball hopefully I'll, be more successful than they were. We should note it was a historic day of offense across making a base plastic, a record setting day of run, scored red sox and we got shut up but fuck bell, Jonathan in art, in our defence. It. What we were shut out against one of the worst teams and modern baseball history- that's true a bunch of minor leaguers couple folks, they pulled from the stance and we couldn't couldn't you wanna- couldn't get a run across them, so at least there is that firms of where we are, though, China go big picture here I mean this is a wooden the combination, because there are plenty of chapters still to go, but this is this- is the by product of the big

and it shows in some ways we should take a glass half full look here that this system has is holding it held november of twenty twenty. It held some republican State officials, sub judges did the right. Thing, even some members of trumps administration. It took them to the eleventh hour, but they did the right thing and, though, Jane worse twenty twenty one will always be one of the darkest days in our nation's history. People have started to begun to be brought to asked us, as you ve, been saying: job long? It was only those everyday americans who actually storm the capital listening to donald trump words that inspired them to commit violence in his name, but now we're seeing others to those electors in Michigan will talk more about that later and that potentially trump himself in the people around him. It is pending Hell Canada, seemingly on the verge of being held accountable for months and months of lies threatened our democracy like never before we discussed yesterday as the news broke,

maybe in some ways this will still be the hardest case to prosecute. Maybe this will be the hardest one to deliver a guilty verdict, but it's also the most important one. The ban should be charged for what he did. yeah consequential and you mentioned Michigan coming up we'll talk with boy spans about it. The felony charges against fake electors in you can also the latest in the moral. I go documents case also morning Joe, what we're learning this morning about a? U s soldier detained in north korea plus for this post, numbers lagging rhonda. Aunt is returns to mainstream media to defend his twenty twenty four presidential campaign. Also President Biden, that, with the new campaign at featuring and

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to the united states congress for the purposes of actually rep. Setting the state of michigan and who they actually voted for, and so These are basic things. Where what we're going? Look back on the years from now and you're, starting to see again, we ve been talking for about a year now, maybe nine months about gravities returning that actually are things that we thought like no and no longer matter in this country did matter gravities returning. I think we will look back after tromp is gone, Years from now, and just to say how, how did these people how they ever think they're gonna get away with that. Have what what ask what was going on between twenty fifteen, and

We twenty one that made these people think they can act like thongs, beat the hell out of cops, try to overthrow the federal government lie repeatedly be part of it scheme all because they wanted to get close to fly, a reality. Tv host. Who had lost election after election out related after election they get. There well ass. Well, why do they do? It and- and we still have an answer- either- may well a really those who does questions sound like a farce, but I think that's going to be a really important discussion as to how we got here and what were the different factors involved over the course of decades and these people who these people who knew better, who knew they were breaking the law I knew they were lying, who knew they were trying to undermine democracy? Not not some gentle wise concept, but dumb.

Accuracy in their own state, praying undermined the will of the people who have just found it pretty probably in michigan, by the way, as close as was before, but voted for Joe Biden instead of donald and you have people who actually splattered unscathed, the take away the popular vote like they were in town. turkey, our russia are saddam hussein's arrived just crazy, so that, was michigan attorney general Dana nestle announcing, fell on it charges for sixteen people who worked. returned the states. Twenty twenty election results. The defendants legit lay met in the basement of the mission republican parties headquarters and signed multiple certificates? They were michigan, duly elected and qualified electors for the presidential election, so The electors then

to deliver the documents to the state senate, but were turned away each of the defendants, face several forgery related charges which could result in malta year jails ten says the sixteen people include. Would a state republican national committee a woman as well as it We're state republican party, co Share I didn't believable about it really is emitting, enjoys vance, again, gravity return outside people. People again use wonder what people were thinking at the time they were going to lie about being electors, we're going to try to under donald trump cards, keystone cop player, electors which apparently it's gonna end up snagging a lot of people not only state level, but possibly on the federal level, but bit what's going We the outcome for these people, get trying to take away the vote from their fellow

michigan residents, A general now saw, I think, said words that will resonate throughout this historical conversation that you and make you have been talking about this question of how did that your dream! Last for so long. You know that thus says? Democracy has to be defended perpetually and so she's put her markers that she intends to be part of that process and she's starting in classic prosecutors fashion at the bottom of this particular food chain, not of the entire. food chain, where we ve seen rioters and protestors prosecuted by the in general, in the district of columbia, Here we see where it began in Michigan, with people who tried to over turn. The out some of the election, something like close to a hundred and the five thousand more votes for Joe Biden than for donald trump, but knew how folks engage in a clear scheme of forgery and election cry

and thus makes an important point. She says I have to prosecute this case because I prosecute forgery. Every day and I prosecute people who try to fraudulent, lay obtain absentee ballots and if I didn't prosecute these people would be because they were well connected political actors. You know in some ways that makes it worse will see that as the evidence in this case of all these were people who understood what they were doing, who knew what was going on, who were asked to conduct themselves with great secrecy to conceal what they were about and who ultimately we're living in the same environment that we were all living in, watching lost after lawsuit, be dismissed in courts who said there was no fraud that tainted this election. So these folks, these are what prosecutors would call righteous targets for prosecution.

So Joyce there is such a long list of legal troubles facing donald trump. It's tough to keep track and we should not overlook another you're development yesterday, which is from south florida classified documents case, and about the timing of that potential trial and trumps team, as we know, is argued to say, hey we even have a trial until after the election, and they did raise the point that well because there are so many other matters, including now, this january, six, in allegation that it's gonna difficult to schedule. One. We know the jackson with, of course, the same we wanted to begin at the end of this year, so the judge didn't give us a definitive ruling, but what sort of tea leaves? How, as how do you read? The tea leaves there when he went to spain, where an especial end up when she makes your decision in the coming days. so from what we learned in the hearing, the judge was a little bit solemn monarch. She didn't seamen, to go along with prosecutors, proposed schedule of a trial in December thing that that would be

out of line with other cases involving classified documents, but at the same token, she didn't seem persuaded trumps argument that this case could not be tried and should not retried until after the election, she's taken the issue under advisement. She said shall issue her ruling and a couple of days will know a lot more when we see what month she lands in and their she's committed, as the prosecutor said, to putting a date the calendar that, even if it's a little bit aspirational, sets a schedule of that war. aren justice can be done here. Enjoys wish, or what do you think that they should be in line in line with other cases which the judge said she's trying to do right so classified documents. Cases for all of the obvious reasons that we can all readily understand are a little bit more difficult to do than a regular case. For one thing: those documents have to stay in the skiff here that mean

lawyers and their clients, will have to travel to the skiff to look at documents, motions that could normally right in the comfort of your own office will have to be written in the skiff. This complicates the pro Thus, it slows things down a little bit. That is an important defendants are entitled to due process rights. But what did dodge seemed tempted to do in this hearing was to a white those sorts of delays that are encountered with more complicated case and in cases that have slower schedules more deliberate schedule because they are complex and they require additional process. Prosecutor say look judge it's possible that we can have a classified documents case, but one where we don't have to treat it like a complex case, here, the government has done something really extraordinary that we haven't talked about enough. I dont think instead of producing

discovered to defendants on a normal, somewhat delayed roll out. The government put together all of the non classified discovery and they gave the defendants a road map to how to review it. They hold them how they would be using the evidence. That's unusual. It saves defendants a lot of time. It gives them a real leg up- and it looks like will see the same thing with classified discovery that means process There are serious about getting this case done quickly. The former you attorney Joyce bands. Thank you as always for coming on this morning and amid all of this jackie alimony. What are you watching for moving forward yeah meagre, again, we are on high alert for when this indictment potentially comes down. This would be former

and Tom trumps third indictment related to the january six attack on the? U S, capital and what exactly those charges are. We have yet to see the target letter that indicates some of the statutes that trump might potentially be charged for were also looking out going forward for more tar. letters that were potentially sent to people right now. Rudy giuliani lawyers and a lawyer for johnny spin say that their clients have not received target letters? That, of course, could change. We also have been lied to buy these lawyers in the past. There are some other key players. People like form

Why does she have south mark meadows, who has been been conspicuously quiet and staying out of the limelight? Has he received a target letter? We do know that he has gone in before several grand jury is related to several of these different criminal investigations from the morocco documents case to January six, to the fulton county investigation. Is he cooperating or is? Is he someone who also has potentially anticipating a target letter and then, lastly, were also looking at the order of all of these we'll tenuous criminal investigations going on as Joyce no did. A lot of these states ended up conducting their own criminal investigations because they for doubted that the just department would move along with charges, two january six. So what is going to come? First, an indictment from jack smith related to January six or is funny willis gonna get out in front of it, as we are expecting sums

a decision with regard to her estimation in fort county next month, Joe Joe One of the interesting aspects of all of this, when you look at Joyce's analysis and an end, Jackie's reporting is that the tension that that we're seeing play out. You've got to to Joe's opening point about the wheels of justice finding that groove and grinding through this process, while in time. You have political actors that are trying to exempt the politics from those format that a process elevator. The politics above the legal process making tromp up up greatest citizen who is untouchable. giving credence to his his pronouncements in his rats, while at the same time leave

by the side of the road everyday citizens, because their fodder there there the distraction, but what this doesn't know? We're pulling and altogether we're pulling in backing, the conversation and we're going to show you, MR trot, that, while you think these folks artists, peace is that can be jettison their import peace, is badly to your eventual conviction and that's the tension. we were seeing play out between in politics and the law she and Jackie alimony. Thank you very much for your reporting this morning and come up on morning, Joe smart, brilliant and perfect those words Donald trump used last night to describe the role of china. President changing paying you carry me

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everything perfect, there's nobody. In hollywood like this guy, I get them twenty eight billion dollars, because they screwed our farmers for years Nothing is, he didn't even know he calls she brilliant mars. Perfect this is a guy who again has as clamp down it's a tyrant and and donald trump, is calling him swarm again. We ve talked about this before how we to believe that the government govern police least governs best right and they believe an individual liberties and individual freedom. Stop and We sought the new york times a couple days ago. Praises authoritarianism, he's always loved authoritarian, see, loves most brutal. spectators in the world, whether to north korea, russia, in china and that's the thing you have all of these groups, it out

Fine, so soft and shiny now is called. She a tyrant and you look at our military expansion Around china, it's been that's been. pretty hot summer to be honest with you, but brilliant, smart purpose. Is what he says about president? She does. so the same donald trump who during cove it said that the united states, on behalf of the people, the united states, he wants to fake praise, and she for his openness for his openness and full cooperation with the people of the united states, its just bizarre, let's bring write. Another present merit is the council on foreign relations sector endanger richard eyes. Richard again, it doesn't have today to day define. Five one tyrant on the globe for another tyrant on the globe that donald trump praised and as we all remember

it's always sort of a nightmare during those nato meetings and during the g20 meetings where he would cost Lee be attacking waiters from democratic countries, but always praising the tyrants kind of envious there when it equated brilliance with ruling china with an iron fist seems to be his approach and whatever, You can say about shoeshine thing, lot of flaws right now: the demographics of china or bleak its drinking and getting much much older. The ratio working age to non working age, population skewing very badly the economy, economic. What has really plummeted in that country? All sorts of financial aid whilst that, could pop and is Joe you pointed out several times the principal effect or consequent, The chinese farm policy seems to be too galvanised regional response against china, and you have these.

Formal and informal groupings that are essentially wary about the extra should all of chinese power. So whatever else I would say, she's in paying, has clearly created a lot of headwinds for himself. certain moving moving along a little bit private second class Travis kings crossed over to the border voluntarily into north korea. How do you see negotiations proceeding to bring him home where he faces prison, a prison sentence was interesting. You're north korea. Now this will be one of those roar such tests. stay. They want to show that colonel coat. They can be reasonable. They want to give a signal, maybe they're, hoping that it could lead to some talks that could reduce sanctions will be forthcoming, If, however, they want to continue to up the tension and they want It'S- almost station identification for the north koreans potential on Do the odd missile tests

point: we're gonna have another nuclear test. They're going to play harbour know what they're gonna know. This is a decision making system of one most like several of these other places. So I think it's gonna tell us where the koreans all right now, tactically, and this the your man, however misguided he is, is clearly now caught up in something much bigger than himself search it lets you are towards the glove and talk about the ongoing conflict between russia. in ukraine, a lot of good feelings coming out of the nato summit last week. Certainly a note of unity struck by prs abide in the alliance growing, but the the ground remain what they are and presently he would acknowledge that presents linsky told them that the counter offensive has been a real reels. There also seems like there's. No man, that's not for any, so a negotiated settlement. Any time soon, and we now have russia bailing out of the grain deal can have real consequences far beyond ukraine

where's, the everything you said this spot on like this, this counter offensive is encountering all such a difficult. You got dug in russian forces who, use mines, an enormous quantity and its things down, plus its turned up turn out of ukrainian equipment caused a lot of cash. This right now. The counter offensive probably cannot be sustained at this level. I'm intensity in the cluster munitions in the aircraft are not going to transform that it's one thing to you? The russians are pushing back, but they got limited. Leverage want that the grand the also we'll see how disruptive that to be the biggest story. and this is going to go off, she's euro reason to believe that their side, as is right or wrong for negotiations. I think ukrainians haven't you come to the conclusion that they can't militarily liberate they'll have russia clearly is playing for time. It would love to see whether the west states are obviously looking at the american presidential race, so I don't think china thing

We're gonna see serious negotiations. If I were betting man until early twenty twenty five, I think the russian want to see the lay of the land. Ukrainians want to see While they can do so. My guess is no matter how much diplomatic effort there is. I don't see it hey or probably for another eighteen months which meets this. This Confiding season has to end, and probably a third fighting season, and that's just me it's an enormous amount of destruction is still ahead of everybody if your volume report near sitting there hoping to cite donald trump hoping you can avoid prison by winning the election in twenty twenty four vladimir putin is something he can win the war over it to take over another country, if Donald trump winds, he knows trump. Will let him do it

richard: we also have you here, obviously for for your your position this morning, Jones a meredith, golf correspondent. We have the british up and coming up this weekend. Excuse me ross the show and as we call it, the british show, but I didn't get the email. It's now just called the open somewhere in our collective youth was called the british open, and now it's just called open and that's what I was saying over across the pond. They refer to it as the as in the premier event, we are americans, though, so let's talk about the british open and tell you that we must say it's love the masters it's it's so exciting, but there is nothing wonderful about the british open, especially when the winds are blowing about forty five miles an hour. There's rain and everything's going sideways and they get light. There is

six iron out till I can t off, because I know they're just Get a punch it and that's about it. But what are you looking for this weekend or Mcelroy run nurse the genesis scottish open this past week, so he goes into it is one of the favorites you see drawn raw and others. This courses interesting two things. One is played out, and I was fifteen or twenty years tiger woods one there. The entire course was brown, drought this year. The entire course is is lush green and the France's interesting. The rough is much thicker. It's going to be a much tougher course. Secondly, JO leinen: look at it, the bunkers around the greens on on the fair way. Eugene I want to get one of those you join one of those you manage all join the witness protection programme, you're never going to be seen again

Now as deep as bunkers I have ever seen in my life on twitter, there was a thing. The other day were somewhat took sick strokes to get out of a bunker that that is a bad afternoon And eventually, I weeks as a man who is ireland, some time in the bank on the bunker, our present emeritus of the council on foreign relations, richard ass, always great to have you on this area for coming on selling your private carbonic is as easy as easy as but sure all you do is enter your license later been is easy, is a stroll in the park. Ok, then, just answer a few questions and you'll get a ride offer in second as easy as senior wine. I scheduler pick up or drop off and Carvana will pay you that amount right on the spot as easy is playing guitar. the idea that kind of difficult by selling your car to carbonic is as easy as can be visit, her dot com or download the app to get an instant offer today.