House passes defense bill with controversial amendments
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freedom for senator to prevail, to say that he's not jeopardizing national security when he injects politics into defence process,
Frankly, this is not the time to do it. Not when there is a war going
in europe, not when american leadership is vital to the international global or
for him to really jeopardize our national security by injecting politics and and
venting our military leaders
we aim to take their positions and do their jobs is really here. It's beyond
stressing it is suggested.
it is our jeopardize nation to our national security. That's democratic, senator ten
jack worth of illinois, criticising republic and centre tommy tumor bills, blockade of military promotions, duckworth, of course, lost both of her
eggs while serving in Iraq. After a helicopter,
He was flying was hit with a rocket propelled grenade also on capitol hill. The republic and controlled house approved a defence bill
loaded with far right social issues that has almost
no chance of passing the senate, we'll take a look.
at the looming showdown over funding. The military. Also ahead, will dig in this brand
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good morning and welcome to morning joe it's Monday July, seventeenth jostle mere back from europe. In
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including a game and the third set. It lasted about twenty six minutes. What was so it
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the entire first. It was as good as it gets,
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acknowledging the greatness.
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team federal Joe give it reflects the play the villain and these roll
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that fan love that has eluded him to some extent. Flares performed preferred federer, raffer, nidal great stuff will happen,
about that later on. But let's get to the headlines now house, revolver gains have passed the defence spending bill that limits abortion, exe
ass, transgender care and diversity, training for military personnel, the contrary
The legislation was approved on friday, primarily along party lines. This act
far right: freedom caucus pushed to ink
The amendments on major social issues, Democrats than accused report
tens of turning what's usually a bite?
listen bill into a cultural war,
The legislation is now headed to the senate. Words certainly expected to fail. Here's what hath speaker Kevin
Dorothy had to say about that. Just focus on the military. Stop using taxpayers. Money
to do their own workers in a minute.
It cannot defend themselves. Did you train them and work? We do
one disneyland, a train or military. We want our men and women in the military to have every defence possible and that's what our
Does the money focus
directly on their quality of life and more import
on the investment now report.
Answer specifically defending an amendment passed in the houses annual defence spending bill last week that blocks the pentagon
covering the expenses for women in the military who need to travel out of state to have an abortion procedure,
Here is what republican senator Tom cotton of arkansas, as well as congressmen, Michael mccall of texas,
I had to say yesterday about that measure shouldn't all troops
regardless of where they stationed get the same treatment like why penalized for living in tax and others for their free to travel to another state
to having to be penalized. They have to do more than just not taxpayers that they'd have to take that
more and the not, and so that would impact their ability to do their jobs. Arguably right if they have to take on this
The military should not be paying for abortion, tourism, so watch and women who are in uniform in a place where they cannot access abortion because they are there on orders. What should they do? What they want to take that step
we have thirty days of annual leave, it shouldn't be taxpayer finds giving them three weeks of paid uncharged, leaving.
so alley. Let's talk about the mechanics of this past last week as noted lightly
down in the senate. We heard kept mccarthy talk about woke ism. Where is this story?
and what are the real, what implications of suddenly this bill being in real jeopardy. I mean like this
typically something that is by partisan nature, and you look at the way that it came out of committee. Things like fifty.
to whine or something very bipartisan like that. It's something that I asked to speak
on friday. Why he thought you watched the shift from going from something that was very by partisan to basically passing
long party lines. There were a few exceptions, some of them front liars in tough districts for re election next year. But look at me. I think it speaks to the current mindset of this house republican conference. Now we know
because we watched this dance, be done with the debt ceiling battle that the first pass at this out of the house,
republican conference is not the thing that ultimately gets passed in the end, but there are a lot of changes that are going to be made here between this house version and what the Senate is ultimately going to take up. I think that's going to be important
here is some of the promises that Mccarthy may have made to get members of it,
conference on board here in the first place, the fact that, for example, he's out
our dairy taylor green, who he promised a spot on the conference committee for this bill. That means that she's,
be one of the folks who was in the room and actually help
to hammer out what this ultimately looks like. I think that's going to be really important. The other thing I'm looking for two is the way it
this abortion issue, which really did start with senator tolerable in the senate, him holding up those melick
promotions until the pentagon changes the policy you were just talking about. It seems
he's struggling for an off ramp a little bit. I know when he was talking to one of our NBC colleagues. Last week he seemed to say that he would back down on this. Maybe if there were a vote, he's changed sort of the way that he has talked about this over the last few weeks. Again, it sort of looks like he's looking for some kind of an offer him I'm wondering if that's one of the things that comes to fruition as their conferencing out, what this end diego might look like, but I think more than
anything. This is instructive of not just a battle that we're looking out right. Now on the military and how congress is going to tell the military, they can use their funds because that's what this is, but then the light
funding bill itself on spending coming in the fall and whether or not we're not good, we're going
What about government shut down each of these battles? Debt ceiling now nba? All of
is instructive for what's a had read in the cliffs, we just played
impossible not to be struck by the the callousness
Two republican lawmakers will talking about this centre.
I used the phrase- abortion, tourism
Just give us your senses tat just like how he is portraying an issue that is so difficult in so instead
well to so many women put in aceh,
patient we're now I mean you're being political points.
to really minimize the impact
of a woman's decision ought to have.
If you not have an abortion to try
I like this is some excursion
you going on a vacation spotter, something shows the carelessness. You use the right word of the
right wing- and me in these particular argued that this is not tourism. This is basic decisions taken.
lot of real gut wrenching decisions to make, and then too,
I am using the fact that this country
needs to have its defence at all times on alert. We
Battles gone on all over the world, ukraine, it
natural and we're gonna play
he's culture was in the middle
The time that recruitment is down is shows you that they have no boundaries to try
and on more or less and
And Susan, I think that you from europe
watching all of this amended
There is really no place, I can remember.
In recent history.
where we see this kind of law rule, ah, ah, but
already from from the old days, even try to.
Fear, would military strengthen military recruitment to travel.
We can argue, meant tat
be laid in. The problem square are in churches, yeah and less to think about what the political content,
whence it will be for some of these republican members in districts
that are either swing. Districts are districts and Joe Biden, one who have cast our votes in
However, this pretty hard line position on abortion for women.
The military, and I- and I wonder, which
How can we talk about the political consequences which are considerable? We know what is it? What are they act?
national are their national security repercussions.
If there is a failure to pass this defence authorised
bill, which I think is is possible when,
Look at the showdown coming up with this national security consequences. Susan, almost whatever happens,
one is in the rev was getting out at a little bit, one of the biggest
illustration the military right now is retention in recruitment and women.
Now, an increasingly central role in american military things have really really change unless you're these law makers, maybe under understand that so,
two two way and on these issues in the way, their doing really undermines readiness that that's that's point. What, if this bill warrant to be passed,
because of this. Yes, I'm anywhere, we ve already
at the time that, with the? U S, military can't do the procurement needs to again as having personnel issues as such
funds are available at this small
and the united states, even though not a direct participate in ukraine, where shall we say
a major indirect participate there, plus we got operations in every other,
the order of the world that would be
Major major bomb makes it impossible to plan. It makes it that much more difficult one prolific
save your everyone around the stables with doing these issues for a long time we ve
come a long way since politics stopped at the water s edge. Does she idea that
becomes another football for american politics
snake as a sign of just how much things have deteriorated and richer? To that point,
it was a major topic of conversation last week, while over
covering the president, I mean the defence secretary: was there talking about
to propose blockade here too, can't feel important positions that jobs are key jobs, military that are left vacant right now,
Biden himself in his
coverage in helsinki singled out this
for what he's for what he's doing it and bring it back again,
oh you ve worked couple of speakers you're well aware of
machinations and the strategy and the eu
pete leadership in the house and then of course way and on the senate to what is that
they doing here. I guess this is what is the thought process behind the republican party this
it's blocking leadership positions, but also, you know doing a thing. That's terrific point potentially,
challenging american military readiness. What
I think it'd be a mistake to say this is a part of any plan I mean giving the car
held that press conference on friday after the bill passed a bit of a pepper rally for the bill,
which is funny because this was something that he was trying to avoid all week long and going back to last week, they were held up
those who make for a very long time trying to sort out had handled this. As alley pointed out, this was it by partisan build just a few weeks ago. He didn't want to do this for those political reasons he didn't want to put his members in this position. He also knows that looking down the road, this is going to come back to the house, with without
these provisions and once again here-
I have to sell this to his members as a walk back. You know I'm a little conspiratorial, I guess when it comes to the house, freedom caucus and what their real motivations are, I think they like to set up a.
duration, where that
thousand negotiates with assent. It doesn't get all of these more extreme provisions, and then they can put it it kept mccarthy's feed for not having to live,
and once again by the government
these facing a lot of pressure on this and it's gonna extend to when we are doing for actual funding.
for the military. Look. We haven't failed to pass one of these authorization mills in sixty years. We don't know exactly what would happen if we didn't get one done, but that we should know that if we
He had the military we get to the appropriations. Next, that's a huge problem for not just us but lie
the places around the world and one of those places, of course be
in ukraine and the EU s assistance there. There's developing use out about
coordination this morning, where a report of explosion on the curb bridge which
ex crimea to mainland russia, has killed two people and injured another russia
as blamed ukraine for the explosion, which has now shut down traffic on the bridge. Ukraine has not yet claimed responsibility for the attack
the bridge, of course is the same. One struck by a blast in october of last year, that rendered the bridge
useless. It underwent intense repairs reopen in meda. It is that point
We'll pride, which have hoss for Vladimir Putin, are the construction of this bridge
to russia annexed crimea illegally annexed premier some years ago,
We also have breaking news this morning about russia mighty pulling out of the great deal that will be allowed to grow
come out of ukraine to help feed the world optically africa
fears of famine if this can't get restored and restore quickly.
monsieur sense. Here are on that, but also this explosion.
Which you now let's say,
Ukraine was responsible,
another moment: were there not on afraid to strike within russia worse,
it's not the first time by the way, ukraine has done that. So you know the three street stories. If you will today, one is the kirsch bridge and this will complicate or prevent a complicates russian resupply of their of their troops.
In the crimea and again, as you say, Jonathan exact
it's a strike against Putin's prestige when this bridge was open. What was about five,
several years ago? If I met my date right, tremendous fanfare,
and thus the shows you, the russians, don't have got control the breakdown of the grain agreement, that
which will hurt a lot of the world.
This is a real setback. If this doesn't get put back on track
ukrainian grain to train is traditionally one of the bread basket of the world. They'll be alive
prices around the world that will spike. This will complicate syria
The economic situation, a lot of developing world Africa Middle EAST,
the answers that will see whether this this this happens. Thirdly, big story over the weekend about mines and how the rush?
of heavily mind territory, there's dugan defensively and how it's very hard to wage and effective counter offensive against that kind of thick mine.
the ukraine, ukraine side has really turned out churned. The lot alot of equipment was the lot alive
that the initial months or weeks of the counter offensive of proven, shall we say very closely. So this is because a sense this war
it is going on in many many ways at
Russia is a few if you well fighting it.
hence of indirect struggle, but there that did not
yet is decided in anywhere guy ass, president buying about the state of the counter offensive left.
well were in europe and he acknowledged the presence. He told him that had been very hard slog so far, slower
maybe on the subject of ukraine. Fox news yesterday aired in our long pre taken interview with donald trump in which ankara maria barracks rollo press, the for president on his repeated clay,
three could end that war that war, ukraine in just one day, tiggle up
you said you could end the war in ukraine in twenty four hours. Yes, how would you do that?
I know that lynch very well I
He was very honourable because when they asked him about the perfect phone call that I made, he said it was indeed pray. Tee said it was a failure.
You know what they are talking about. He could have gone.
instead it all? I felt threatened. That's not going to be enough for putin to stop bombing. No, no! No! No! I'm not saying that, and what I'm saying is that I know Joe lynskey very well- and I know Putin very well even better.
Good relationship very good with both of them
It tells a linsky no more
gotta make a deal. I would tell potan reviewed,
make a deal we're going to get my lot we're going to get more than they ever got. If we have to, I will have the deal done,
in one day. One day hang on,
in that, first of all that again,
this one day, susan page suggests that they're gonna play to give russia planning that they'll telling he's telling Zelensky hey that's enough, we think we can really
the lines with that is about, but also much remember you,
characterized relation with the modem insolence gaze. I knew him very well yes, because it was
Conversation was less meat, they got him impeached the first time as he was trying to withhold military aid to ukraine, and also ukraine would dig up political dirt on now. President Biden, so that's the backdrop to that conversation, but get
give us your red here all what we're hearing from trunk- and I will say one.
Persistent storylines at the NATO summit in vilnius last week. Is this
he'll fear that if, if
We can hang on through the american elections next fall and he's rewarded with donald trump. Is the white ass? You know she's got a shot to win this. After all,
oh yes, I mean this is a concern we heard from quietly
NATO leaders about what would happen if donald trump win,
the next election, which is not an impossibility. We heard that first question that finnish news conference from a finnish reporter can we can
on the united states to stick around because it could be
very the! U s. Position would be quite different toward the worn ukraine and towards vladimir putin if Donald trump move back into the. Why has, of course, the idea that
The american president, whoever he or she is, could tell
whence gate and make a deal and that he would do so is pretty laughable. Given that the location-
self to be a pretty valiant leader of you.
and someone who is willing to stand up to the united
when he thinks it's in his interest in the question.
Ukraine will be introduced
and willing to git get Sica sudan for a serious diplomatic solution. I don't really think we're there yet so Brennan,
there are certainly some republican leadership and senate minority Mcconnell chief among the poor, say, look we're going to support ukraine. This is what,
job as americans, due to two to bolster cave
against russia's joint, but there is definitely a strain of of ice
china's and strain over public into a questioning. Whether or not
This is the right idea. We know. There's some of their public house knows voices of growing louder about the idea,
funding to ukraine? We also heard from Tucker carlsson and an event
held, and I were in recent days really pressing some of the gnp candidate.
about whether or not this is a good idea. How prevalent or
what's a factor is this going to be for republican voters as they look?
candidates, candidates today, including most of all donald trump, that this could be, we want not support ukraine. We wanted something very different than this current, why
went for it. Oh it's very real. I mean the party is so much more isolationist than it was, and we actually saw this vote in the house on the bill we were just talking about. There were amendments offered to significantly limit or even cut off, support for ukraine and they failed overwhelmingly, but seventy.
Something republicans voted for that.
It's easy to look as well as those didn't pass, even close, but I looked at it was like wild. That's a lot of republican, saying there willing to cut off aid to ukraine right now. At this moment, now is bracing in that trunk interview for
for him to say that he that's that's his position that he's going to cut off and that's how he's going to end this war, at least. Thankfully he said he may use strength and try to end it.
it's real it's pervasive there a lot of very popular figures out there who push this stuff all the time.
And that there is an audience for an interim trumpets them.
if the leaders of the of the isolation is movement that you gotta say like so you know he he's he's responding to something that he saw out there, but he also drives it a lot himself, all right well brendan buck. Thank you. Very
We have more on that doctor
interview richer, including his idea that the united states, if you were present again, may not defend
I warn against china because of semi conductor chips, we'll get it
will also get into new developments in troms legal trouble, including a key proof
while hearing in the classified documents case what to expect in court tomorrow,
according to the special counsel
is now waiting charges against a trump organization. Employees will explain why plus new efforts by
former president to shut down the grand jury in georgia, where the district attorney appears.
Poised to announce criminal charges
hollywood actors are set to join writers on the picket line. Today,
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back some in hollywood are sounding the alarm over the damage that could be caused by the dual strikes of the writers and screen actors? Guilt,
in an interview with face the nation yesterday form
a paramount petruchio and icy chairman bury diller share
His thoughts on the harm, a prolonged strike, could bring this actually we'll have devastating.
If it is not settled zone and the problem with settlement,
in this case is there's no trust between the parties. These conditions will,
potentially produce at an absolute
ups of an entire industry on friday.
actors represented by these sag after a union joined members of the writers guild of america on the picket line. The writers have been strikes since may there, but little to no good
emotions are a sense that both of these strikes could last a very long time rise, of course, suggested. The industry needs a change going forward quickly, how
I may impact the business will have more on that, as in the morning the head
The white house, meanwhile, continues to tout bided onyx in an effort to convince voters that the improvements
in the job market and inflation, or all thanks to the
Then the oval office white house counsel of
economic adviser share, Jarrett Bernstein suggested you Emily
heavy seas java K part yesterday that he's confident the united states will like
of the white or recession but convincing the public is an altogether separate issue.
a recent associated press poor found that just thirty percent of adults think the economy is quote
Meanwhile, while speaking at the conservative turning point action conference yesterday republic,
michelin, marjorie, taylor, green of georgia, warned that press
by wants to address issues like education, medical care and world poverty piglet
didn't we johnson
very similar to Joe Biden. How are they the same? There
Democrats socialist lyndon johnson
was the majority later in the senate. Does that sound familiar? He was
vice president Kennedy, Joe, was vice
I don't know, obama he was appointed-
The president, after J f K was assassinated. Then he was elected, his
the socialists programmes where the great society, the great society were big
programmes to address education, medical care
ben problems, world poverty trance,
rotation medicare medicaid, food stamps and welfare?
the office of economic opportunity and big labour and labour unions. Now
l b J had the great society, but Joe Biden had built back better and he's
l is working on it. The largest public invest
men and social infrastructure and environmental programmes. That is the actual,
finishing what sdr started, that l b jake's,
ended on and Joe Biden,
attempting to complete so
real sharp and that sound you hurrying ass. The white house thanking more detailed, brings the campaign commercial. Let's remember, of course, that their first months in office
they eagerly embraced, the Lyndon johnson comparisons, the great societies, what their shooting for they're trying to be the most transformative legislative.
Presidency since then the first two years when they have a democratic control in the house, the set that sounds like I think for most of promotion regrets that's meeting
years, I was waiting on the attack me. She said all of that and I was waiting for end. What are you object to? She left out
voting rights in the civil rights and she forgot
say their Lyndon Johnson defeated
barry goldwater in one of the biggest landslides in presidential history in this country, but an end that Joe Biden defeat.
Did donald trump Eden inherit this from the assassination of his predecessor, but we want lead.
given away, I think
Therefore, if I were the democratic party leadership or the binding people, I would take that
run it all over the country because
thing. She saying that Biden stands for, and l b, J and every hour stood for
things most americans want many
going on right now, you're gonna, attack medikit me
I see now why they put out to freedom caucus because now she's in a cock of our own, and it's not
very wise cock, maybe a double agent wrath
I'll have a tally. So certainly the why
ass is leaning into the idea of the economy, and the things have already taylor green just mentioned all pull pretty well among republicans, but among the voters were large, but we just noted that americans don't feel that great about the economy's. That's the risk here
with the president and therefore democrats following a lie behind them. Really saying hey by dynamics worth full on embracing and tried, take credit for
This economy he's giving another major speech on that issue later this week about althea, but there are risks, your tip yeah. Of course, there are, because
and we were talking about this on way too early this morning, as while the idea that there is this disconnect between what the
amber say about how the economy is doing and what voters are telling me a new and all of us when we go out on the campaign trail that they are feeling
comes at a time when tromp has been able to successfully show americans or or at least convince them that he's good on the economy, despite the fact that his businesses have not always been on the up and up, despite the fact that they have always made the money says that they make nevertheless
trump is still perceived as strong on this and republicans are going to try to continue to leverage the issue. I think the thing that I'm so struck by when I hear what congresswoman marjorie taylor green is saying there, because you're ticking through things, healthcare, rural poverty, yep. Those are things that I think a lot of americans would like to see solutions to going forward. But the other thing that I think of here is the
he's in which the white house has leaned on issues like this in the past, you know when she mentions build back better, which eventually became the inflation reduction act. It lacked some of the key tenants that were initially proposed, but many of the things that were in build back better and then, ultimately, the eye were things that poles
very well among republicans and democrats alike, and not something at the white house leaned on quite heavily. The idea, for example, doing
for a structure which is generally popular in a bipartisan fashion. All of these things are things at the white house is going to point to say: hey, not only
we're getting results or did get results in the first two years of our administration, but we're getting results on things that people can actually see and feel indifference to, and also that they support in pulling
No, it was interesting to me in the cliff that we saw as marjorie taylor.
was going through this agenda that she apparently finds offensive. There wasn't much of a reaction that we could
from that conservative young audience
I don't know if she got a better reaction later on than she did to. The difference. Is that the clear that we saw
you don't hear said, dilemma for the white house, so they clearly need to do
better sales job, especially in talking about things like the strong job market, the fact that inflation age, we had good inflation numbers at the end of last week,
but a sales job only go so far when you're talking about the economy, because that's something miracle live with every day of their lives and their own families. It's hard to convince people. Things are going well if they're having trouble meeting their bills if they are having
trouble, keeping their kids in college or pain. The rent and richard has you ve, had experience at the white house. What can
What can the white house do on an issue like this to change the public's perception about what is going on in their own lives,
in what the white house can do is one is hope that things continue to get slightly better. There has been progress on the inflation front, will see what growth numbers are.
Can it be that easy in certain ways on the numbers coming out of china and a funny showed away, will slow things down here and then you ve got a bit.
we explained, explain and explain point two:
there are things that are getting getting better, show demonstrate essentially educate. The oval office is in some ways one of the great classrooms of america after
are the fireside chats. It's not president Biden strain
necessarily, but I think essentially, you ve gotta
fine, there's gotta, be a narrative, there's gotta, be a story and we ve come out of covert and here the things
have gotten better and we're doing these things to deal in everyone's dealing with weather related thanks well connected with climate change, essential
explain what it is, the the investments that we're making in in the country but affection
You ve gotta have a narrative that the american people buy into account
by the administration yet asking
than a narrative. The people understand and essentially say. Ok, I get it. I can support that and the white house they acknowledge they need to do a better job of.
in this case, while the reelection campaigns not going to really ramp up for many many months, we're going to see the President try to do it with a series of official events, including a couple this week
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Twenty eight bats, does not have a home run this year war.
jinx Alan turing, the colorado rockies clearly taking issue the yankee
By play answers call he lifts the nl worse. Rockies
eight, the seven when, as they take two out of three from the yankees in the series, the
Israel has now lost six of their last eight games, calling to fifteen and nineteen. Since raining ale,
Erin judge left their line up with injury on june. Thirty does not seek closer
charting. Meanwhile chicago uller, please come in.
the boss, the red sox, beat the cogs in eleven five blow outfield. Yesterday,
lighted by a grand slanted by muscles
but Yoshida in the fifth than he's been terrific. The red sox in yankee
for now tied for last place, an alias, maybe charitable, say either tied for workplace nail east richard
used to seeing the american league east standings, look like that, and neither of these teams are particularly good. Neither of these teams feel like are real threat,
nepal season, but the red sox actually have baseball's best record since July.
Firstly, there are at least coming on your yankees. What's the deal and ones aren't judge coming back
there's so many new stores. We could talk about know what's going on when the ninety pitching was yet again disastrous. Yesterday, yankee hitting wasn't as bad as it normally is not clear what judges your time,
nonetheless, but even with them. Next to me, the yankees, having a winning a winning formula, the show, I think, to the big.
Or if I may change the subject slightly, is the baltimore orioles. Even you, Jonathan, even Joe, I don't think would have predicted that the
or else would be as good as they are like now may now:
hamper they raise gravity is asserted itself, but the orioles supply
stunningly well far, far better than prescience predictions, and but that's the idea,
the red sox are still not out of it in terms of the potion there's no ship brought rolling about what fifty.
percent of the way through the season. So there
there's time to continue to disappoint yet at this is actually. We should note the first time ever that at a time
I had every team win. Fifty games at this point in the season: sox and yanks, only a game or two out of the wildcard and the worlds have the fewest losses in baseball. So richard
My suggestion is for another hour talking about the yankees, but I'm told we have to move on, but we'll keep you to get weigh in on this story too. We mentioned that our long pre taped interview on fox news yesterday that former president trump had he waited on ukraine. Well, he was also asked about taiwan. Take a look.
Should the EU s help defend taiwan if it means going to war with china? I don't want to say it because if I'm in the position of president,
I don't wanna Shea. What I'm thinking you know.
If I ever, I answered that question no put me in a very bad negotiating position.
That being said, taiwan.
Take oliver chip is, as you know, we used to make our own chips now, the maiden taiwan. Ninety percent of the G8 summit elected chips, ninety percent of them- if they, though there they'll be able to turn the world on and off, is not right that if china takes taiwan, they will turn the world of potentially potential. But remember this
Taiwan took smart bryant. They took
our business away? We should have stopped them. We should have tax them. We should of tariff them.
Sir Richard, what do you think I mean this? Is the president talking very dangerous game here with taiwan in akin to how we mentioned
a little earlier, how vladimir putin might be watching the twenty twenty four election to take his cues as to what to do next? Well, maybe XI jinping will as well know exactly
right. I think both presidents
putin and shit you're gonna, wait and see and see what things look like come january: twenty, twenty five, the first half of what the form
president said, was actually consistent with: u s policy
wouldn't say one way or the other told strategic ambiguity where the united states would come to Taiwan's defence. That's actually consistent with the american foreign policy. Second, half thou shall we say is wildly wildly inconsistent, so idea put
frank taiwan or other economic adversary.
what would the way he did at all, is one wrong and to cash real doubt about our willingness to come to taiwan's defence, and
If we were not too, we should underestimate the consequence, not just economically, but strategically that
beneath the south koreans and others the entire american alliance system in asia. I think now hinges on what the united states as well
we are to do for taiwan. If you don't want china to be in a position where to use the present expression, it can turn off the world's economy. Then let's deter china, let's persuade sheesh and paying that whatever his dreams, whatever his aspirations to take over taiwan, the
worse, the rest would be too great. We oughta be projecting a certainty that we,
are going to come to taiwan's help, help and we
be building up the capacity to do at this unfortunate
goes in the opposite direction. Survive. We mentioned the how president putin
she or watching us, but are
lies are also getting messages here that they know the donald trump has a at least a reasonable chance of being president
and it seems like every time he opened his mouth on. Issues of foreign policy. Foreign
but also of our staunchest allies, have to wonder if America
Be there for them again we're trumped returned office
which is the kind of trepidation a lot of them have said, is
We don't want to go all in until we see where
futures. You hadn't remember fight for this.
to be president again to give the signal that
the united states will not be committed to taiwan. Why
he's saying something that is is could be damaged
in terms of relationships, but at the same time, is playing politics to cheat like he praised
politics to text. Not me praise all these dictators. There's nothin
When will we saw the attempted mute me with Putin just three weeks ago
was also uncovered that this group led
former chef tried to
many ways influence the election and support our trump in the first place. We're looking at
What percentage of today's new york times talking about in Prague gets back gaily, wants these vast powers, so
ass powers. If he gets back in place,
she played a potent. I mean this is very true.
They not only to our allies but to our citizens in a press.
Biden has had some struggles,
to the official policy of strategic ambiguity on time
until he said several times made it very clear that
you're his watch, the united states would come to the defence of taiwan.
now. I wonder what your hearing on capitol hill we ve talked earlier
you're in a sour about the divisions. Among republicans on aid to ukraine.
It's a hill stand on this debate over what the? U s would do if china moved against taiwan. Yeah
Think this is one of those conversations that we're rightly having as inextricably linked with the conversation or on ukraine and russia, especially as we watch the ways that the Chinese are both observing that situation and potentially engaging with it. This was
the key issues on combating chinese aggression that we saw
the hail at the beginning of this state of divided congress actually likely to act in by partisan fashion on, and we ve seen. For example, the select committee on china issues workin by partisan fashion, it's one of the places where we do watch republican senators and lawmakers broadly criticized the former president for the ways in which he speaks graciously about people like she. Similarly, to the way that he speaks about putin and kim Jong on, I do think I was struck there too, by the way that you know folks and commerce department probably had their ears pricked up as trump is talking
Did it really about the need to recalibrate the way
if chips are made. Certainly that's something that congress acted on in the early phases of the Biden administration in the in the first year. That was a big win for them, and so certainly that's one of the things that they're trying to tout here, even on the
world stage, I know that people don't exactly connect hard politics with chips, politics, but that something at the white house in the commerce department or trying to show, as they again tat by now, makes and take that show on the road trying to factored into the geo political landscape too. I think, is going to be an interesting thing on if they can do it. The talisman,
you very much richer. On the economic side,
I am struck by some of the continuity between the trump administration in the by an illustration, a larger government role when it comes to things like chips, but on the farm
cs, I couldn't be more different and when foreigners you would just in Europe Jonathan watch us what they ask themselves. It's what's the accept
and and watch the norm. When they look at Biden, they look attract. They wonder whether by
His answer return traditional ism and tromp was the exception for those four years or just the opposite, whether these potentially for years abiden are the exception
Actually the new normal for american farm policy is donald trump and the republicans in the house.
That's what makes them so uneasy. They no longer have the ability to count on us with confidence. What we're?
redoing and a couple years. That's a major major change. We ve become unpredictable and, from their point of view, somewhat unreliable
that point president Biden has overseas tatting the expansion of nato. Many nato members wonder if Donald trump comes back to office with united states pull out of that alive,
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