Wil Wheaton returns to the podcast for a third time! He chats with Chris and Jonah about his fear of wearing a band's t-shirt to a show, Wil's problems with being recognized and receiving complements and the dangers of click-baiting. They also make confessions of popular movies and TV shows they have never seen!
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have we met before, perhaps in a slightly with a moderately different voice and indifferent had on nine or now and now I'm pause the many varied character of Jonathan Winners area, that of diarrhoea. How are you are you all? How dare all that, though, you
videos really funny it's great it's! I feel bad, because when I
will was recording a recording, a thing for
you know one of his men
social causes that he takes up on a social justice warrior. You might not know that I am a self hating white man and you never talked about. Why privilege they don't talk about the weight of white guilt. Am I right guys that, with it and more social justice ensign,
really. Well, I mean, if you come to my Social Justice Academy,
I can probably train you through the various levels. The first thing is you accept that women are people yup Van Lot happier and therefore has the most acceptable.
And then, when you realise that video games are not the most important thing in the world and that probably just sort of like you know being of in favour of equal,
for people is, is
it's a good idea
It is a fourteen month process takes fourteen months ago. Just to get through those two steps. Steps are denial
Well, ok, it's a also helping people get through that its also. I hope we will get there. Junior high school graduate occur. There should be
rule. There should be like a driver's license situation for internet commenting or inside you
you can't do it until your twenty one. I think,
should be a law, a licence to hurt you like,
Hell you licence to drive you licence, a fish fertility, ass reminder, Baghdad.
Yeah, but I never quote is the best seen in all of parenthood, which is where he crashes, the carcass you're, getting a blow job right. I thought generated a win.
Other attic. I mean it's basically the same moment like getting super like he's just superior easy going. It is wise, crazy gets, don't worry about it. You know it's far. It's like it out it's in there pantheon of a blow job, corrects one of the other. The sadder scale developed ribby crash. No, no, no, that was chronicler grown about Alzheimer's gossip
that is forgotten about that. That is a tough one,
in social doesn't academy trade? We would you like to be more accepting a balls around you
sounds rough. But do it
and are you accepted applications yeah? How much
it's gotta, be a gas pipeline.
Before we get distracted. We did this thing for project. You are ok, which is actually really neat thing
it's a video fur record, a video about just talking about depression and anxiety and
any Jappy started and the idea is to create these videos of of peace.
Who, like kind of deal with the weird brain shit that people like me in and more Wilson and a bunch of our friends deal with, and they make videos about it
talking about it, and the thing that I wanted to talk about was like it's not
and of the world to have these weird mental health things an like. We shouldn't be ashamed of them. We shouldn't be embarrassed about then we should really just be like talking about it and
knowing that we're not alone. That was like the whole thesis of my thing. Some recording it
upstairs at the studio and as I pulled in the park
I saw that crisis. Have you seen? Curse is really need, all of which are important. Have you seen is expensive like our heart, so I'm doing it's not employed sister. It I mean it's more than just a car. I mean really. When Christians car was parked in front of my house, I felt compelled to go set up cones around one would go. I want to get a leaf
and then the Nissan people, tweeted at me saying yes, Wkrisha, get leave us. I am the one who told you should give mealy yeah. That's how you sent me a tiny miniature toy version of a leaf. Sorry were only the social media is always what kind of mileage does again it gets is as much a missions as regularly yes, like blower you're, like he had Ya'Ll yea
so I thought that that that these these these mental
here is that you speak of anyone's listening to this part gas
probably have those I'm I'm leaving for genuine tomorrow, and my anxiety is just like hey what's going on, then you should go to Jenin. Com became a going to judge, degenerates, kindest has like thirty doors and its everybody standing outside, and they can't decide which, without a word about our machines weighing on that among the optional paralysis track for joint excellent asked, I decided to go through so I went there to record the video, and I saw creases
We lovely luxury automobile is in our king lot. Add an answer I was like. I need to see Chris before I leave, and so I told everyone it nervous because Nursing Cassandra, you know we share office. Now, where were we love? Each other were pathway whence Marco's at the barn yeah yeah. It's Marcos where, where we're cohabit
I haven't been officially met. Anyone from smart yet so when I walk past smart girls on my way to given sundry, it's always that weird kind of like half
smile thing that you do that way. You know that, like I want to know you, but I don't want entities mazurkas, that's weird! If aiming at there was aunt Amy do anyway, so Chris came up what we were recording and I'm in the middle of the slick really intense. They good Christians up in its basically just like whelp, it's time for a bunch of fortune star our cereal Craig, but I watch did I do so. They set minister, our cereal packaged like gas, he'll yeah,
I was out which one one box as Yoda the other has darkly riots that would have its view, makes them together, and I went by medical, organic allergies uttered acquitted, I'd, put it a twitter because we're talking about what do we do it set Green was like you guys. You eat the cereal than you
some four minutes: refilled package, seal it up and plastic and put it on a shelf garage. I don't like well. If anyone knows it sat down to rest collection of every day, every
like I ve, been I his game room with the actual figures and wherever they may so he gave her with actual figures in a right and it's like everything, its Viejo in STAR wars and mask, and he man like its everything right, but we did was he put lives.
Magnets on their feet and then put
them all on these metal shelves. So you can.
Stand them up without the foot pegs genetically. He ought attacking. He also minds accurate figures so hill, just he just makes it so put them in
like when I arrived. Hollering makes figure like you outside things together.
You mean he put them on scooters and races them around leads have at best.
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Mendoza stuff, like he really Nguyen like Robot James, the perfect show for that now so much an expression of everything
but he is that he's into if you ever get to go to stupid. Buddy and go upstairs to her, they keep all the stuff that they be. They save everything. It's basically like every day.
The thing we did, his kids playing with action figures can be recreated up there.
Its freaking amazing! It was over
at your figures right they like they re makers, they have to be, they re make him and then they put this lake. They put. This really had gauge wire in them, so they move around. We shot a thing over there for will weaken project and south, took us through the whole thing like through, where they make their molds and then how they
where they make their molds and then how they build them together and then the ones they use any shyness because they have to be
well to move in a tiny little increments and then hold that pose for like weeks or months,
on the complexity of what their shooting. So he was like walking us through the whole thing on its rich, really grads magic, really, really cool stomach.
Can't imagine how maddening that must pay for people
watching the every once in a while ago, watch that that motel video, where the guy
basically animate, Somalia, earnings and Canada, so good, a roller yo here,
your white out a building and then and then
figure and like painter figure like it with a massive and then white out that an and draw the next frere, and what about its, not just gonna, building its down the side out building on a line while those crazy part about the video, that's amazing, because clearly the days are going by, they still like had the same Fuckin France go back,
I don't know that's polluter sturdy meter,
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which is also a sector that still illegal in South Carolina University there on the books. They won't arrest you for protect me. They can't yeah, but it's her Burnham they're coming around here for things like coming around. As I finish the start motion animate you're, writing your name across the wall with your own judges under a black like that it takes a long time too long. You know you'll get sting is the only person in the world who can actually do it. That's what I get the nickname yeah, that's it
Naturally, I remember his dress up like a bee when he was a kid. That's what I heard
Would you like that? You're the strike, the yellow striped sweating like a bee? Yes, I'm columns, would you be bothered, goes one he's carrying adjusts manoeuvres and bans as this one
like me, show eight. So was he in the bubbles using the bottles things if you use Billy borrowing the bug, lazuli body interesting, and then he became a bee yeah for a while, yet
do a hunch, the wall or something, but no you either.
Miss blister on my knuckle for the stupidest reason. So hey Jirga
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the dirty Mouton right jargon.
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I had a brand new pair of genes and they were very stiff, opposed
where to Canada is a brand new pair of driving gloves out. It was out of the way you held up like us. It's like I was like they did. What else could appear for your hands be, and you know how hard that is, because to get the skin off the gray whale deck now really good if they do, and whilst still I dont get it in the right spot. You gonna throughout the world,
so you get the carbon valve, I'm never going to figure out how to make more than one pair of gloves out of a whale. That's gone, revolutionise the industry all right in the future. Man
commoners will be wearing oil gloves. Who was that
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not all of it and then, finally, by the end of the night, a just war this that raw data friend
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model them in the nineties
during all this weekend, further just for last us so
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a vision that do that too. I like all good enough at all
I get new outfit for a tv efforts and I love it.
To feel like. I could only where something. Once if a word on tv and then I realized that that was like wasteful
Also. I never wanted to like burn a guy,
shirt on tv, because unemployment, where it all the time- and I just embraced- that I have like thirteen shirts and I just where them over and over and over again, and then I was
kind of ok with it I
throw thy word genes once and I throw them into the whale
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it's. You get a new tab, spy but its, but you can know bailing out of it. For I love well, we ve breached the plans now
really nobody, nobody,
no one in this room and not a single rate of you, I'm fucking.
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the killed Kyle that five we want you to kill, Kiowa Guide, I'm glad it's getting getting acknowledgement, for that pointed become. My wife will- and I was in such a Bobby Jack happiness- is a warm plan o screen the will
let's get just like, but but by polish, like
what does she replied with delivers? This juice? That's
that was the the sketch out at key appeal, which was like it was like
and was playing this like really irritating guy. That was like this
this guy Tyler, though he wasn t appeal known and unknown, but it it's kind of accident economic, about your jack. I don't bring. It started something about her castle. Dr did you drive the jagged whose castle? No? No, he usually you didn't get it. We are like what is this thing? I'm sorry, we may allow actual job of the robber. I always thought they could still have wheels. While we you is there a way to use your we'll well noted. By will homes.
All right. All right, you can come in, stop blubbering,
while the whole Georgia and the whale figures been sitting here. Are your own camp. You, oh yeah,
but that was like the debate was that it was of Jordan was like the funniest guy in college and like but like he was
struggling so hard to still be funny, and it was so hard
ever like Keegan and everybody kept on laughing Cassio
we're watching, like the golden gloves, he's like the other chickened out of it.
I d, like you, should just leave you ever go use. I woke up. That's the closet, a better not come out of it like it is
struggle was so workers whose everything was so and funny, but made everybody laughed like even like once the camera guy laughed in Verona, take like no
could hold it together, the entire time. So I'm I'm happy for them that they will go on and do bigger things, but I'm sad that the shows that their chosen by the best sketch Commie shows the past fifteen years. Probably ever. I would definitely put
in the pantheon of like I would put it up with kids in the hall from some of the greatest jacket
I Mitchell web is up there. Mitchell were mischief. I put the state their state night up there,
blue collar comedy. I'm sure I will outline the Valencia absolutely disagree with it.
I'm going to strong in the strongest terms disagrees, moreover, done I give an if you might not
you're redneck men probably improbable, probably not that
The guy that getting the jug of supplies were like? You might be?
rather I guess I guess, I'm not a regular redneck. I guess
still yeah, you said I was going relate to this continent has a long way. I'm under dollar they may fail. They use down.
I just feel like rednecks- are such an oppressed minority. I just feel like his jokes or like really there just not funny like they're at the x.
Expensive, an entire group of you know what that is. True gets a toy taking out and if a liar making fun of white people who never get made fun of- and I mean who always get made fun of I'm confused
Listen carrying the social justice flag is very difficult because it tackles, I wouldn't mind like
we'd better, take everyone everywhere.
Sensitive about something, and so where we know, when? Is it ok to talk about that?
when. Is it not ok to go after stuff? Won't people make fun of like reaction
I tracked and whether there are centrally just making what a poor people and that's always like if they think look like you're, just make it one a poor people that there is a great onion headline. That said, it was something I'm gonna mangle it, but you get the sense of it. It was target.
Shoppers making fun of Walmart shoppers
making fun of like low.
A friend mire shot. I mean it sort of like Flickr all shopping at this point, a cracked did it.
About who did a bunch of redneck jokes early stand up. There was me worthy,
I did I do
because I went on the road and I d banned in all of the stuff that I've been doing, because all the comedy that I've been doing was in LOS Angeles and his right, and a lot of those jokes were flying on the road to Europe and South. So I did a lot of.
Banners rather does the Dallas Marianna joke in in the last episode of Titans Grave Leah, yeah, and I was watching, says, watching and ended up it yesterday
and its somebody's figure. Lowenthal says something about Dallas raise an Urien Alison and I just crack up, because we ve lived her for a really long time and Hank alert like what I say out loud and the editing room, because in the project you are ok, video we made some local joke in Greece is like local efforts is get your local work. That's play by that without ever thumbs, lane comparisons hosting ember, making jokes about Philip use.
In jokes about
keys on Van eyes or something I think that's the joke we made on
oh, no, we may be we more than his was about. His was about bonds,
it s about VON vines becoming Johns. What's up with that? Well, he he good idea with vines becoming chairs a whole hidden become Johns know there are different color different,
just that? It is largely a great bet about that really
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my entire life. Thinking that a super
get chain bought vote.
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through a network of out of the big diagnostic Lebaron on our creating story that you can and and then and then just changed the J to a vague as they could save money on the letter? Yeah, that's not that's not.
Being a hundred percent series I would highlight the current system is: was a guy named John who was like it's close enough device
that Pianola come the politically we either as a lot of like like Russian, like
food and an entire food at Johns, it's it's very, very at Lahti,
photos, I wouldn't metallic lucky thirty, eight or something like that is there
the same Gabriel Valley that are lots of like really awesome chinese food like real trees, Gallagher, H K market and carry it out, and I think there s a fact that well
never been into a Johns
looks to life. I wouldn't want to Irish Asia. I want to argue Jaguar why you doing networking watching how much fucking still people
You may go to school
replied the king of the nerves, God damn it was like a heavy. Is they had that where's the crown create jobs in the crowd, you're wearing the clear, because it in a case on a shell for its survival at its everywhere? It's basically the call side of the wheat and sympathies. I know it's only research, we are partisans
thought you big. May we might have to discuss with you the kings mandates and he's gonna come up to go long live the little king. Will we hear this study with a lifesaver again? We in the June, you think you're the general jigs
to use and Erika I said, but it is a sort of a fun public every time,
haven't my aunt em,
someone, someone someone
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and I just I sort of governor like all wait. I remember that I saw that I have you as a friend and read it. So when I let my friends comment, and I see what you ve commented on was over and I like it was. It was about the whole. Give gift
This is wrong
within about exactly what it was about,
the agreed common rigidly twenty minutes until I feel ass. If what I really like amendment would be real while it was
holding off that Myra was worried, torso short years, so I mean the last time it was called in LOS Angeles. What was at the ninety thousand and eighty nine
towards a short, was a vast says he was wearing
before you got in the room. I was like my arms or call like you. Were you that's the point is I don't know it was your virus? Somebody started a hash. Daggled tore social rights that are at the same time as I walrus. Yes, really is really funny you're funny COMECON. I abortion
I thought I would have a comic gone. I was really overwhelmed about going there. I was really nervous about being like pin
down by people are like trapped in crowds and stuff like that, and I had
all kinds of anxiety about performing it Woodstock
you, don't Amelia Doc, you know, but I didn't really material. I didn't,
dude, I didn't even know I did something.
Hu, I told I just I bet
We did a monologue. Did you recorded
was recorded. I didn't recorded, but was recorded by
bull yeah, but I mean I can listen to a back if I want to do, but I
we did a monologue about a mile
about poop
stoning source of loading and what you do it's gotta day boy,
my mom, but it was almost thirty
she D, help me right, jokes and really trying to figure out like what kind of
Jim it killed, and it was basically just like
member what I asked you to help me. I jokes and really trying to figure out like what kind of jokes I do, and I was like I'm just not good at like quick one line.
Things, and I think he told me like that. Just not my style, like the styles like telling
tell a longer story that has jokes in it and I was like ok, I guess that's what I'm going to do and I knew
funny parts were in this thing, but I hadn't worked it out. I hadn't written down or anything I just
up until literally minutes before I went on state. I didn't know what I was good at some time. Rats I mean. Sometimes I can work in your favour, because a few
when you're in the moment
Your brain will automatically
filter out all the while the chaff and then yes get right to, because your basically the audience is, can be a gun pointed at your house.
Yeah and so you're, just sort of like tap dancing, and you don't have time to judge what you're saying and sometimes it comes out as economic
is possible, as opposed to a few sitting
in the early wordy and then you write anything of pops out like will give
sit down to write. You tempt, I tend to write more like it's an essay meter,
but
when a gang member. What no but no
I just meant very economical, inefficient. No, I don't know what you're talking about. That's not how do you know I'm a local I don't have to do all. I can quote from us ample another review that there is little. I like the high pitched kind of like Moses,
that one like it make due to make it
go wherever there is. I did it I was about today. Is Iraq? Yes, but like that was in the laws of the jungle.
You know that our only that that the
receive ass. I got a guy doing the
that right, baseline, actually, pre dates the movement by Allah, several you're ten years, maiming yeah! That's what I mean.
Well, that's been used, belies what I mean yes has been rack right now, I'm Rob AIDS are not aimed at my own international. I know, but I've known, I regret my revolver buckled. Nor are we re did not arrive at about eight
I'm sorry, I'm living the highs off slight turned down the game. Audio engineer: generic drugs, audio engineering, jokes! That's it that's why we're here are full of e king. I would pick up the bathroom team. The clippers is that someone just comes dollar there is just unspoken at half. Time is short of true hears. Its people in little tiny cars just
and that of other people just like, dare take trimming their nails and other words where's its chips. Words, chips, chips, lingers we're going. The way you are a big case, why are a welcome to free
those asian you can get in without paying. You know it's funny that I was everyone knows every when it was just
I was always asian than this. Is you guys work seriously, but ever Helms on yesterday, and I picked this game to him were and are you here
less a week, I'm sorry, but this just because it is the whole point,
behind you see, because Turkey is like when you have rising dont, think, but I pitched a tyrant, improve, should show called do think where you have to explain why
guy everything you see that because what's better and Jones Get explained, but your work
dark. So you were talking about stress about we attack and because you made a really good, that's a really good point about like I can, and I think it's a really good point for just for performing a general right.
Like there's this great moments that you dont script, that you don't think of? Yours like this would be funny any say it, and you know I think if you have, I don't do that
close to the experience you guys have doing comedy, but that you just sort of like for me.
Knowing all right, I can get back to this thing. If I have to. I know this is a peace that works, and I can just, and it's the it's very much like
in writing. For me, like I know, these beats have to happen and it's what comes in between that's really fun and surprising, and and is we're like all
It's like, although, like all the work is building the tent poles in the fund, is like connecting them together, yeah, and I think that the problem for a lot of young performers is that they have this aid
in their head of you know, comedy is dot dot dot. So
when you were saying
Oh, I don't do short like love, it's that that's your idea of what you think comedy, but that's not
what it is. However, you
express your ideas? Leah you, you don't have to
effective on yourself, too
understand that. Oh I'm naturally funny and I'm going to I just the way that I
sent. Ideas will come out a certain way because it doesn't feel like you're dead,
anything when you're doing that right.
So you think we'll comedy is doing acts, but in fact it is being yourself I got.
I got a lot of of inspiration and validation and
able to get myself like a little bit of permission watching his ease and sorry perform the one that he did it at the Chevalier Madison Square, that certain rights special it so funny- and it's not- I mean it's if you were to break it down like how many like John
folks are in this. It's like for a kind of like
Eames. You know, and I love the way you erected a too, would like the backgrounds yeah like every time. He entered one name about something that Latvia the whole such I mean. What's what what are really fun weight,
He comedy is based, is
you know who the performer is. Your Woodstock guidance knew you know as ease, and so
basically going to watch some one who is like your body, and you already understand a lot of context about who they are and what their about, and so then it just gets all the
stuff out of the way it's going to a club where you may not
The comic or the comic doesn't know the audience, and they have to spell out just happen to me in Montreal I did a practice set for my tv set and the practice that didn't go well liked to the point where I was like
fuck that and I had the same thing that up that you go through your entire career like it's. Not maybe I should be doing in maybe actually do something and then I realized and then I realized, oh, I'm used to
in our long sets. I didn't know how to take a handful of things out of context and put it into a ten minutes.
And also the audience didn't this practice audience didn't know me, and I came in with jokes that it I ve been
boiled because audiences know me. When I one stage there was a wonderful reminder of like now
you gotta focus and do you know that don't use the
audience, knowing you as a safety net, and so I had to I had to readjust
the actual taping which went great, but it was the sheeted ten minutes of material.
Banana monetary zone- and I did now show yeah, I did a ten minute.
Set with a gallop Ellie Camper hosted in it was
I love her so much. It was originally chemist whether such a good Ellie was grey hairs. A lot about that show that I really dont like and
she is so phenomenal in it that I stayed through all the way to the end, the even when I was like the show is really very bailed on them
so the premise that that I was like, oh my god I she could do. I can't she could do issues really funny. She opened and closed musical number. She hosted the gala
and usually what the other have a celebrity host. A gala show in Montreal now have a bunch of comics, and so, like your Patrick Harris,
so the gallant Ellie hosted a gallon of other people and so
gala was there was a man
and Thomas Middle Ditch, PETE Homes Margaret show why a cynic Michael J
Shit, forgetting anyone, but it was. It was a pretty insane. It was a pretty incredible line up of people I
This is my whites and story.
I was at after
after we did a show during on. As sketch vest
savage, had a little party his workshop place and
I don't like to go to parties because I,
Louis. I never know anybody, and I always feel super weird
but I know I'm really really really well, and I love as workshops day some like you, I'm going to party. So we go to the party and
I'm like
starving right, but they had like
public, want me sandwiches there. So I was, I guess, bring them all to me. I'm sitting there eating just I'm just like I'm, just I'm eating like a caricature bright and like I wash myself with a rag on not just go. I know that I just go crazy right and I look over
spoken Wyatt Cynic Lake
sitting down like I'll. I love him money. He is
common kills me indeed, on the data show his flawless and like I gotta, get Saddam like trying to save myself up, and then I see it is looking like off fuck. He saw me staring into many thinks, I'm just some fucking, weird guy and and and I've,
I've rooted and then I'm like. Well, I guess I have to go in.
You know I wasn't ready, but I just got
thus I walk over and
I put my hand, and I am really sorry to bother you, but I swear
this myself. I
my name's well and I'm just a huge fan of your your work. I want to say
thank you that and he stands
he's much taller than me. Like most people are
and he says thanks man, I'm such a huge fan, your work to, and unlike allegedly
glad to say, and then he goes on to sort of, like speaking specifics about things that I've done occurrence and like cute
the girl, like that that they re used over and over and over again will you made the really obvious lame choice? Much longer we talk about the core family life or, if you said the curse you would, you could just see, but hairs go up the thin and heat like whose, like talking about tabletop and like stuff that he was like a really love that stuff that you do animals like that
don't have? I wasn't prepared for this? I dont. Have I dont have conversation ready to go
through your sandwiches, Adam in Riyadh, ran basic gaff, he's
it's fantastic and he used a sort of.
Processing the idea of it.
You know he was on Marin, show and talked about.
That he had with John Stuart and it got picked up by right blogs because it's you know ever since
everyone's mark had the president on, I think they're there. There are crucial point
thinking in your career as a performer where most of them
of your life. You just feel like I'm flying under the radar does really matter what I say. No one really you know and then something happens.
Sort of elevates, and so I think once the president was on its like
The media really started looking at it at that at the show was like
It breaks news in it, and so this
The thing in and you know I mean I don't know- I don't want to stir the pot or too you know, or
put words and why its mouth, but his general sense was like you know they took this clip.
They don't even listen to the whole conversation at all. The news outlets just took this one. Could
in spawning, however, they wanted to kind of spin it and it didn't. It wasn't like their choice,
the story that happen in lazy.
It's like its laziness, fits a narrative that they want to that. They want to be there
poor upset. Here's that one of the things that sort of bothersome to me is that it
You know you said when you said: why have Social Justice Academy, but there are really there is,
justice warriors in the world that sort of feel like. Oh, they just want to like.
Drawing things there angry and they just want to destroy things that it take another feel so much about like that that you want the
to be a better place, you're trying to do something that more
an eagle place than a place of like I want to help the world yeah
think that's more about a person is being being angry about a thing and and and absolutely having the right to feel that way, and
but there are going to actually I've had these conversations with a couple of people were. I've said you know like
I'm on your side, and it would be great if you just stopped kind of losing your shit at me, because I'm a white silk guy like that, doesn't mean that I can't care about the same thing you care about, and then this person
like now your tone, policing me and I'm, like you know. I don't think you want to reach a point of agreement,
I think you wanna be right. You want me to be wrong
there's nothing. I can say that's going to make this get to a place where it's ok, so go fuck yourself
well. I mean that the thing is that, ultimately, if you do care about, it
social justice in the literal sense. I think that your in my opinion, I think your guiding principle should be. How can we understand
each other better. How can we understand this hell yeah? How can we who live on life's lowest difficulty setting
sort of like flattened the curve for for people who don't right. I mean, I think that way
had that responsibility- and it is the thing
I try to. I mean I'd. Try my best to do like you'd, like aggression. Right out of the game is not really the best tactic, because it just creates more aggression right. It just creates more aggression and people in it. There's a bare, that's that's a very newtonian it just you're gonna get the equal and opposite
in the opposite direction, you're gonna get it back and rather than I mean
if someone says, have really upset, because you said this has happened and I dont understand why I much more
gotta go either a you know, I'd that was dumb. I shouldn't have done that or oh well, you know the history of this, and this is what I meant by this night and you know as opposed to like fuck. You.
Peace is that I'm an ignoble fuck, you back in the face and no fuck you more fuck, you like way more, and so I feel it.
Is a thing that's happening now, which is that any didn't you
be smaller sites, but
larger media outlets or click baiting, now Anne and they are manipulating people's unwelcome. I think everybody's click baby. Of course I mean an eye.
Think that's been going on for a long time. Everybody gives Buzzfeed our time for it, but CNN does it on fuckin television. Fox news has been doing since nine ie. Eight I mean I mean it.
That's the thing that everybody did. Anyone ever stop to go. Oh,
you are manipulating people's emotions, because you know they will be pissed about this, so that you get traffic you are like. I would think that the people that are upset would probably not
this super cool. They realize like a large,
preparation is basically just manipulating- our motions for traffic ion
maybe patent Oswald for Playboy, and we were talking about how Bhaers tournaments turn out like mean people does not motorcycles and a way to see that spread.
Everytime, I really wanted to be there for the shooting they wouldn't. Let me because I was going to quote, make it weird, but we talked about headlines B.
Written, manipulative Lee and where were you know like cause became up briefly
and he said so
said so.
I said you know like this. We ve had
at this point it was you know it was appalling at like eight or nine women like that, and you know that bore all telling the same story. Then you know all that and
he said so. I said this thing about I said: look
it's kind of like roaches, like you see a single roach like theirs.
Fifty more in the wall that haven't come out yet, and he said what do you think the headline
as I said, oh, it's, its partners, walk, compares rape survivors to really are rightly consider. Roaches rightly said that was it and I said so where once and he said it wasn't salon and so on.
Supposedly like you're on the same side?
and- and he said, send you then you you feel like you, what you know that they must have now
What is more, they do, of course they do and end its input. It's that thing where Lake he
it s decision and they don't care, they got the click. That's all they care about.
That actually does a huge disservice to to every one and and what
extra happening, is people get lake where it's like? Well fuck?
I'm not talking to anybody are not going to
Can I talk to the press because I can't trust you look at the way the New York Times just fucked
on the whole. Hillary Clinton email thing this last week.
I mean it could not have been more wrong and basic fact checking just responses.
Fact, checking would have prevented all right, but it's
we ought to be first- and you know
herb duskiness beast not offers for this thing that we heard so here we go again and then
it's wrong, but
the thing that's wrong- has become the narrative. So everything
we'll talk about and every article that written in every comment on it is responding.
False narrative round,
then responding to the the inquiry
information, the story should be New York Times, fucks up get story completely wrong and instead its yeah. But
Did she really do when the answer is nothing and that? And that was it,
guess I'm I'm I'm concerned nets.
Don't realize how monopoly
there being by by quick baby people. Trying to I mean it's, it's bad
has it creates false narrative like your sale and then
Companies responsible, don't give a shit can like all, but you know what kind of those people you know likeness on Facebook. Are. You know like the fact that that that's
that's a socially irresponsible and you note that with the patent thing,
I can't believe, of course,
they knew that he was talking about red flags, not people gaff Porsche. You know there was. There was a opposed on red it that was so wonderfully written, but
the concern that someone
at about at midnight.
To achieve this present said in other been alive
Cosby, jokes and at midnight and I'm kind of getting tired of them. You know it
like when ESA now was doing O J Simpson jokes and you know- and I
so appreciated. The way was written because its it said. Like hey, you know I am
and of the show. I don't understand why this is happening. I don't really like it and I would love to know
and I have yet right. Yes, I guess I am responding now, but I didn't respond in a thread yet
to go to a meeting. But but I wanted to say was look committee.
Decide what they want to say when they come on we're, not an ensemble cash out, not hang it. Finally,
We are saying: let's hit,
we just overnight night, it's just it's in the news, latin at the forefront of comedians mines
and in some cases I think you know someone broke the point.
The prize is trying to make it its edgy.
I'm making a joy. I want to make a topical reference, but I think they, but I think it in a lot of senses where it comes from. You know, because there are,
for who were like oh you're, trying to make you know you're trying to make rape funny. It's like no, it's the guy
he needs to be taken down there and a comedian can't go punch him in the face of the only thing that a comic can do is punching with jokes and it sort of like one
Brooklyn podcast listen. You know, one of the purposes of comedy should be to subvert power because most people
views Hitler as a punch line in a joke. That doesn't mean that they think genocide is funny. It just means fuck fuck that guy we have to keep.
Him down and shamed where he belongs, so that a we never forget, we never ever forget, and that b we hope
really dont let it happen again like there's a real social purpose behind
comedy when it's used when it's used responsibly, but you know nowhere have I seen anyone make fun of the victims are make fun of the you know like what was its this person needs
be brought down because this guy that we thought had it
did all this incredible positive,
little change in an and broke boundaries and common entertainment is
the literally one of the worst human beings on the planet, so it
I mean not now always has been. We didn't know about it, so you know like we I feel like you,
when comics are doing that, they're they're trying to ridicule this guy,
sure that people don't take him seriously any more because and there's a tradition of that in committee. That vat goes back that I like
I am aware of its starting with Lenny Bruce and then really like the comics that
aid. My sense of white comedy spoke to be we're. Like Joe
carlini in Bill Hicks, Mary, the cable guy, so where the cable guy, how a man to man see like those are the guys that really, but that that sense of like and Louis Black to like you can like
basically rage about stuff, but you can be funny when you do it and that's and it's like intelligent. I may not get me wrong. I still have a good, far choke added twenty five minutes diarrhoea when it was terrific, but I think that's important
and I think it's one of the great things about just any sort of art form that art can be like you.
Make it into something
and you can use art to do stuff, and I think it's one of the reasons that art exists and then it's one of the reasons that we have a slight like that,
well get so just annoyed by by garbage entertainment on television- is set that just feels like junk food filler to me. You're spending money on that garbage when you can be spending money to make something that like
it's cool that matters that changes things that got us otherwise me, because the garbage sort of makes you appreciate the good stuff. If ever,
show was breaking bad than no showed be breaking bed
no, you are then no could afford to make breaking back. Are you watch?
Mr Robot, I'm not
I just became aware of Mr Robot and I just became aware of humans. I watched ex machina Young,
and was raving about how MR robots about hackers- but I guess because Ex Machina has a robot in it, and Mr Robot has name robot at the time when I was,
Ex bargainers, amazing, and always people like you, gotta watch was a robot. So
did you watch HOLLAND catch fire? I haven't seen you will go crazy for those I'm here. I'm here to align cannot really hard. Lately, I couldn't. I disagree more. I think I'd try, www programming way. Then we really have invariably what rules in order to early morning hard and talk about fire I'm doing talk does John is just as I said it. I said it. I just said it louder. It was Jonas joke. With my mind, was gonna, be something but are you like it was? I was trying to figure out a way that we can make an after show the bulletin board system name just cutting anchors, hard work and welcome to chat room, how
I see this autumn to ten watch I'll catch fire. Twenty go. Do then thirty run. I would actually have a programming air in it because thirty would never. Actually you never get to thirty, because twenty since you right back to ten and thirteen overshoes, none of your actually clear eyed looks like you're. Putting a microphone on your dick threat will listen. All I'm saying is when I come at the king of the nerves I dont miss. I I'm not saying thicket
never flip the lines of code. Maybe you
but if you want to be able to think that is weak
it's a good way to dry out his enemies, I dont you. Do you keep even if these credits are, I know exactly what you're doing no. I would generally fuck that you like, if, if enemy in ten move with five, this is like fuckin like James Bond, when the villain and James bought out both at the table, poverty, the most and pouring bond ever. Do I I wanted to love home catch fire, and I watched, I think, the first three episodes and and and
we no, no, I'm out its
trying so hard and just
and it and- and I didn't care about the characters and and the references were over referenced in and I was like, but yeah but people,
people I love it- I don't know, maybe I'll give it another chance
try to be burned by stuff that, unlike others, is gonna, be there's gonna, be great, no it, oh god, oh god. No, it's not. All freedom ever go faster
Neither would you just quickly do in imitation of turning the tigris catchphrase. What why just do it
I want you to do it.
I feel it is going to be taken out of context and not at all really death. I felt I just do it. I want to hear you do it. Why? Because you have a great voices when I don't I'm really. I should not be doing this, but I'm going to great cause. We ve been friends for, as it turns out twenty
seven years I know careful seems like it's. A tiger trap shut up. If you
This feels like it could turn into some sort of cereal joke now, yet is aerial jobs? So what is it what's? The cadmium camp know? What's a Catholic,
that was a serial church. Wrote fund will accommodate their great great so curiously,
just add that in when we start talking about how to get the long gave Bulgaria was, I knew as coming. I knew this vast uses nice. I knew related it out. I admire the team
that's only the tiger that data you can. You can cut that in when he's talking about how he doesn't care about his beautiful car, a third rate.
You got that in Mumbai, shocking about when I said,
say something about racism than you can, as I will know their great and when he's talking about racists, you can cut that in too. What he's talking about how the audience didn't like him in Montreal and then you can, you can cut, will and then I wear away you're pressures of your favorite. It's the only time in my life I get to actually here what I sound like. What it's not me saying our way and I get to having sat raises, played off on factory a beard by allowed up a year, nor of a mob top hair shop, but our ear and then doing it arrives, Gazette igniting cut that into every time. I gather girl and you can cut that in to win, will was talking about how he hates all races in Greece, and now we have to talk about rockies. We have a place to cut in that line about you, dog it about creed and also ninety the inability we gotta remember to go back and leave the keys here and then the one where they dropped the trash can out of the sky completely baffled really have you ever sat down and tried to make a billion TED time what series of timelines the way you do it with primer man? It's I've run out of paper, climate and impossible to follow its literally night. Actually, someone aid, one of the guys started it before you enter the story
He knew it already work, so he started up and then that's. Why he's he had been monopoly
at the entire tat. Now I gotta go. Watch yeah, there's a whole. All Rocco's basil ask thing in time in in primer that I think has to lead that has to like predate the beginning of the actual fill. You see that guy's other movie upstream color, no holes in it
Well, it's not a big olano, no logical,
I'm crimes, Windows lifetimes times, was an empty Shangri LA its
it's what it's like a it's very Davy Lynch
still on board and it's just like totally issuing. I mean drowning Nick, I guess there layer say something like deprivation, tanks that, unlike us like video drawled like an hour later, no other guys, like you, mean altered states, wealth go fuck make, but yet you baby hiding assets that they get em illusionary nation that pass it's it's really. It's like a really interesting, really like crazy movie. They just makes you feel weird and you're really understand what's going on, but it's really not so
Why not
search justice. Weird thing: I love that Britain's greater.
On its and the whole thing is kind of like a montage. Almost it's like the wages
its word without like telling you anything.
Can I take a beautiful Taber, beautiful, beautiful was
moderating the con man panel at COMECON and at the end,
having the entire entirety of haulage sing, stand by me. That was beautiful, a song. I should not have my way you could never
thing it near him. You know! No, you just don't you still can't you
I still don't like it but doing it lake. I I don't
I don't feel I don't feel awesome very often
and you made me feel Hudson for over four years, no Israeli and that fishing. For that, I'm saying like I generally I'm just like. Thank you. I know you know generally have dislike. You know I'm doing my best not to suck in and not always succeeding, but that's ok, I'll, try, hard and exploiting it in tat. So
crazy. It's
crazy how we are to be.
Yourself. You are in
So many things makes sense to me in context now, when we were young
teenagers and we have to go to Disney another time. People come up the will constantly and really can take a picture. We like fine and he was
the cranky about em like what's the deal like. Why are you so and it's because you don't feel comfortable,
giving you don't feel comfortable with people giving you compliments. You dont, because you don't
yourself for some reason, when I was younger, I didn't realize that someone doing that isn't about me. It's about them and the real kindness is to say thank you
like a loved you anything right like the you
I want to say: here's all the reasons you wrong for liking. That thing which want to say, is thank you for liking. That thing
that's a very selfish approach are basically rohingya. Domini have bad daisies their problem and relationships to
the problem in everything
just a lack of self esteem and lack of confidence, and it does not really knowing who I was- and I felt like that, like
well into my twenties and just like not not knowing and
be weird and also having this like comments.
Feeling of of
two.
I'm the only one who is not in the joke right
like no one hundred drake, no one direction not
They will, let's not be internet joke together a third great, but but there is that
sense of like I don't deserve
I don't you know it's when some
happens that I've been that's good. I just got lucky, it was a fluke. I didn't earn it because, most of the time when I really wanted something, I worked really hard for not whatever it was. I never got it I mean to.
The day I turn
three tomorrow,
I want to join a knife. I it's weird thirty years ago today we were fairly stand by me thirty years ago
you're in Oregon should mean Mme, don't you
but but two
this day I dont book additions.
Never book. I the
We thing I've audition for any literally years that I've booked on I audition for the Firefly Online game.
And even though I was auditioning Andrea Romanones like would you just send us of a voice like a centre
sample of these lines like you just let the provisional what you sound like our Malcolm run, and then I was and then I found out at COMECON
actually addition against really good people
There's this thing we're like I go in an audition and I always make it to the last three, sometimes
the last to every single time and I never get the job ever and it becomes
thing- that's like I mean
still kind of go, but I've kind of lost the passion for because, what's the point
like our others, not like
Nobody remembers who finished second, especially when the pursuit of finnish segment doesn't get in the movie. Theater was already goes to just like it. If not, you not think it can. I tell you I had that for years and years and years and years and years and years- and it was a long running Joe read my manager of like warm and get down to the last two and then they can offer to Joe Rogan. You know
out of hosting jobs I and ends
and then I just stopped auditioning for
because it was you have on anymore and unlike visitant, fun, and I just went and made a thing myself which
it's. Basically, what I did was exactly, which was
largely inspired by you solely of
worse because you you had already gone after. I saw you go off and start making your own thing and, like you know, while long before
given that even in the nineties like when you just went to Kansas to work with the video Telstra Company, but but even into,
thousand we're like I'm on a blog like you started, making your own thing and you build your own audience and I'm like that's, that's really cool. That's weird cause. I feel like we kind of do the same thing, but you do it so much better than I do and you do it so much more successfully, the no! No! No! No! No! No! No! No. I mean, I think you know, did to be completely honest. I kind of feel like I saw it
like the artificial version of you. I feel areas
because I'm your that, because I feel it someone said I'm the bees sight of crews Hardwicke I'd like I totally. I don't have a problem that I don't think it's bad. I think it's great no, but I think you know like people when people come away with, like the people tell
I'm not the real, and are you not a real comic you're, not a real nerd? Well there long and realism, and so with the natural nerd self. I go. You know,
you asked well even friends since we were kids in you, you would see that that I am. I am what about the things that I say that I like, but I also feel like compared to.
I feel artificial. I feel like an artificial nerd compared you because you really you
girl. That's because you're comfortable with people
it's, because you know how to human,
Maybe that's why I mean maybe like you, maybe that sees maybe that's the difference is interesting. Is that that podcasting actually helped?
a lot with social anxiety really, of course, because you know for sure
hundred and some episodes almost a thousand hours. Probably I've had to sit down and talk to people and keep a conversation in the air for over an hour to most and now in the last few years, mostly with people. I don't know, and I felt like it that was useful when
prepared a time where I was dating or like just being at parties, and now, I'm being like you and not be uncomfortable in large, public sector
oceans, I just sort of can
down and I feel like weird and lonely an isolated and but but but this
practice of sitting down and talking to people I can,
have, that is a mode nor I can to sort of go in and talk to them now and I feel a lot more comfortable where I
never I didn't. Really I mean I'm comfortable and groups have I'm come if I ever
group of people and I can sort of, but just like one,
it's like you in our like a hive of your we're. Men are now for the longest time and to go back to like when we were kids. Would it is learn what really? What was? What was so hard for me is that I felt like a lot of the people that would come up to talk. We were doing
never like if we were just people at a place,
Never have wanted to talk to me. Let there was
think about me. That would have made me
want to talk to me and
that the only reason anybody cared and all was because I had been on tv
I had been in a movie and I always felt like that's not about me. That's about a thing that I did like. That's not about me. That's about the perception that I'm famous and I felt like it was just fake and when people ask me this comes up
but not as much now cause I've been married for almost twenty years, but when I was younger, it would be like so objective
you fucked a lot of ladys when you were famous on TVS, doesn't like that. No no, actually, the number
of that is is zero, because I probably
like could have used. The perception of fear.
Two like getting.
Bed with somebody. But I didn't want that because that wasn't me that
a thing that I chose right like I
didn't want to be in those stupid t magazines and I
I want to be a person people recognised on the street. Of that I just wanted to be like. I wanted to be an actor and I wanted to like
the story, and I want like I liked that men like I'm amazed that even outside, maybe that I won't ever felt like it was an enemy to may not have been about it. May not have. That was my perception at work. You know seventeen eighteen, I think a lot of cases, its ambitions and an immense in some sense they speak. I feel like now with self selfie culture that would read it is
in point we're just sort of programme on characters. Like I gotta go, I have to use a measurable to catch, we waited but a viable wheaten appeared, but I also feel like, but in a lot of senses. Yes, tat
We had something that you did, but that something that you did came from a part of you and ultimately it's about how you make people feel right. I didn't get that back
I get that now I mean now when someone
I care really liked tabletop or I like titans grave,
or you know you wrote about a thing and I liked it or do I listened your podcast, then I feel like cool. That's it.
I made like. I wait. Yes, I'm going to do this.
I'm gonna work hard to create this thing and work with people to help it become a thing when I,
was younger. It was basically
parents saying like you're gonna go, do this right and it wasn't my choice and it's not what I wanted and it just felt fake ran
and I knew that it wouldn't. I knew that it couldn't possibly last forever. I think you,
one of the most authentic people. I know because you stand up
you believe in and you never waiver
thing else is just like you know. This is your eminence of what I believe in these the causes that I care about,
It would be easier sometimes for people in your position to not do that and you're you view
you are, who you are like it doesn't. You're not affected by. Anything else is just like you know,
this is why I am in this is what I believe in these the causes that I care about, and this is the stuff that I like and futile. If you don't agree with
Athens good.
You know like it's in its less good day and more go fuck. That's why we're talking? I would I thank you.
That's the only way. I know how to be,
That's a long time trying to be someone different it. So we
and I've, I've been playing, pinball arcade on steam was really fun
but I'm players, pinball games that I played when I worked for new tacking in Kansas and
trying so hard to be somebody. I wasn't, then,
I was just trying so hard to like
cool and be edgy and be like a park and all that stuff in and like not be well.
Be crusher and all that stuff and I basically what the end result of that was out just kind of a douche bag, and I think that being a douche bag, is it's a class feature? It's like it's part of.
Level that everybody has to go through, sometimes you're, lucky and new dodge it, but I think everybody's
bag at some point in their life and it just part of its it's part of figuring out like you, I don't like being this. You know, look at it and I'm getting out of it, but certain play a lot.
These pinball games. I play back then, and I
been remembering that time and I really want to write about it or do like a radio vibrio about it. Just about that time of trying so hard to beast
thing that I wasn't instead of just embracing and being covered with the thing that I M, and it took that to make me
comfortable with and accepting of, like you kind of what
important me what my personality way and you are visiting that it emerges that social justice butterfly, but you know what it's like it's it's. It's really kind of you to say two things to say that in that they make that. That means a lot to me and
knowing all of that
would still really love to.
Read an amazing script audition for it and put the fucking job and it just
never happens,
all of that other stuff. Is it hasn't about this? It hasn't happened yet. I guess
yeah yeah. I know what I also I turned forty three tomorrow doesn't matter. You you'll live for fifty more years, lectures Harrison early start digging a role.
Until he was in a swift, is I mean you you have to? I gotta wait. Seven years your voters- I think you know it's, you know it hasn't happened yet, but the past is not
Equal the future, unless you yeah, you also have to be sure you have to be careful that you don't let your
so much in this mental pattern that you don't recognize the shit when it starts happening, we will again, but still like some people just get in the car gabert still
yeah, but you have visited the abbot stale yeah I'd I'd. I don't live there. All you know me like. I am super super cognizant and we ve talked about it on the progress before like just how grateful I am for just the things that I
to do an end, the stuff that I get to make and then make a really great, really
comfortable living and as long as I'm, not just like a giant
fucking Idiot, I should be based
Lee. Ok! For the rest,
of my life yet and that's kind of a remarkable way to feel at what feels like I mean I just said on twenty forty three in that field all, but I still feel I can really young
You know, and I've gardener and I've got us I've got. I realise that we are going to allow this year old and I've
yeah I have. I am delighted to have two kids who are adult on their own, but now is a shitty fuckin time to be in your only twenties and and it's hard to get work and stuff, and I can help give them a little bit of a leg up and on stuff.
So I'm aware of all that, I'm not! I don't take any of it for granted and I don't like I know, there's its.
Easy to just look at
The things you haven't focus on the one thing or two things that you don't and that's just no way to live.
And I don't really want to be on camera anymore. You know, but it is
It would feel really good. It's on my list. I would like to work hard.
For a job and earn that job in the room I've earned
of jobs through the body of work that I have an that's really
I am not really cool, you know, but I
still really love to go in directly compete.
For with other actors. You know
walk into these rooms, and, unlike on this, is that this is not happening because he sees amazing people are unread. I would love just once
to go in and and and and and do do the work and book the job.
Because I earned it that way. He really funny listening to you is that you
ampler so much more than that
because you basically been all these people
who might go in both these jobs like when you look at everything that you ve caught fish back. If and the people that you brought together
in the change that have affected and all the things you know like all of
positivity firm, nerd, geek culture and everything
it's so much more. I mean it's crazy like if
if you were the presidents and going I really
Wanna be student of day. Why can't I just be student, but you got
your president, I, but I thought I really want tat paper stick her for my people are going to have a much more like a I know, and
position you are in. You could ended up
being a bitter?
adult who was a famous kid actor and you carved out
whole wonderful. You know, like
I'm aware of it. I am aware that all the time- and I think, if you're really good about- and I think it's a thing that that we both did like we both
moments in our life, where we were like this is unsustainable. Well because is going the wrong way because it is time to turn this around its time, even if that, even just going through the Deuce raccoon phase. But it's also, you know when the rest of entertainment, businesses like that'll, be it
please leave. It appears that the door is so they talk to you by the way, Oliver that we understand why, when made our own thing with hookers implies no one, I think someone using renewable energy. We, like you, know guys.
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helped bring in Gerda likes. Like you, I built a bandwagon solids like oh, your bed, wagon kings, vat and, like you, fucking Dick. I bid on that bandwagon since nineteen. Eighty three, I am Bobby, and why are the danger? I am, though, I'm the one who's locks and deliveries are season. Take, but you know, but I think I think I
you come off more authentically than I come off. I think I have a bit of, I think I have said,
think about myself. That's a little. Do she in my dna and
part of you Chris shut up bitch. I decided, I noticed you are you gonna do make a big words Jornal radiance magnetite. I wish people with data this could have seen. The amazing, slow move is so great that this Bob was so slow, but would perfect. It was simple arrests, but I think I think part of
people read with me, is that you know when I was growing up. My family moved a lot yeah, and so I was constantly having to you got. It
radio yourself and fit in everywhere, but the thing that I always fell back on was all of the things that I ended up. You know it's like. I would try to talk about sports with other kids or try up, and I was just fell back and
It is in the Indian stand up and dynamic and an end comedy and and so it, but I
there's a little something about me. Were you.
Sort of might feel a little bit of my
just that lingering sense
wanting to be liked. You I mean of just like,
To finish, I mean I think, I'd be. I barely Reed Reno
I gotta get kind of dude. I think they're feeling like I. I feel I feel like that.
My desperation coming through, because I was never liked allocated.
You know like growing up by you and it's
that you and I were
sort of Austria for different reasons, but the net
SALT was the same and seeing how we both kind of dealt with it was interesting.
I just went hard like tat
to figure out, like I gotta figure out how to fuckin men,
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don't go in the tree man where trouble. I you know in my favorite peace in
famous, is when he's talking to Lester bangs Lester bangs?
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crazy to me that I haven't even a movie, I think, is one of the things that when it came
I didn't make it to the theatre for some reason, and then that I was just people like, oh yeah course, almost name is it, and I think there is a period of time where I was convinced that I had seen almost famous because
I always in almost all of our goals are than culture and I'll have my only, and I will admit that until five nights ago I had never seen one minute of community fashion.
Lodged, I watch the pilot for community and it made me laugh so hard and I loved it so much ass. I think I'm going to go and watch all of it ash
operator thing that that you haven't seen that people would have expected you for ninety nine cents, a minute or two. You can listen to people that you know something about. The survey apocalypse now
You never saw apocalypse now. Why does
where I know everything about it, but I don't know how it happened. I it's funny caused wanting apocalypse now and then watch to stop motion a pack of gifts. Now the ideologists
shifts a pocket handkerchiefs now to speak, as I did
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said a file was races. Words like gonna divvied up through direct or an actor and civic die like they were in actual videotapes, were now it's a dvd place, but it
like really, you like well thought out. It's amazing. So it's like a curated kind of play. Yeah yeah, like on current, is awesome its cause. It has a tent like you know, it has like a big like
like underground, like movie
Serbia has like a good queer.
Cinema section. It has like an injustice
you even go you're like oh, I gotta knit cage section or go the Cassavetes section. Do they have like a liquor? Seventies, exploitation? They didn't, like it mildly, well, curator, like real cool. You are right when we walk and they started watching world, then,
judges other guys like quoting lies, eyewash, but
we we
give us much more of others have so well. We were, there should say I she made
reference to night of the hunter and as soon as they are seen as a hundred men. She, like said, like that's, where the love hate on the have go in there. She like went out all the things and then like I'm watching this movie, it's incredible and you just really how influential airlines and you didn't realize we I'd never seen the magnificent seven, and
watch magnificent seven on Saturday night, with both my kids and rights governed Clodagh come over and I was like they were like what you do and an so an went to palm springs with troll bought, and
slip and Jenna Bush and end Ashley S gotTA and Michel. I came over her last name Mauro, Mr Michel, moral, yeah, yeah. I know what I do know shalt yes, this moment to deal with the palm springs for robots birthday ad
and so I was like home alone for the weak, and I was like fucking dude movies that
So my son was like what are you doing this weekend and I said I'm just watch empirically watching westerns and Seventys got films come over lunch as an ad, and so we are watching magnificent seven and Robert Michon, whose in the hunter is, is such a different character.
In in magnificent seven but
Imagine that is the same character for night of the honey, but in magnificent seven and vat
How so that I in my mind, I decided like you're the timelines, don't work out, you know, but I decided
that that this guy
from night of the hunter becomes this guy a magnificent seven and wasted like atone for the outer. I I I I would, if you huh
to choose between Apocalypse now a knight of the hunter, I would tell you to watch knight of the Hunter. Allow it's it's amazing, but he thought of it. I realized I parted lips now, watch
okey memory that couples wife may yet. Arnold arts, hearts of darkness of darkness, yeah and Irian Jaya,
thing. It's there's this these gaps and you know perhaps
never did not come out right now. I was just doing the young jams. Katy undergoes cut retaliating you'd areas. Indeed it would be. It's really brings out you cut that entirely we're talking about building. We can say this said again: gaps stars, arrogant, again, say it, because if you can sell their great
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it s easy for you need of the wonders called that thing. You did great idea, really needs to how to me the Marty diversity in this. We need to really that is a job
eight idea. I have set it out thousands of people
idea here. This is a I'm gonna pit. Let me put this right: don't make the movie make the trailer for the movie
and we make it is noticed film job and we have this
do we have the productions
all that and I have
beard to be one of the guys who is really just let insult girl. Oh my god. It's such a great idea. We have we should. We should do
but I am sure that that
using the combined powers of of ourselves and if we know we can even get some somebody or somebody's having on the everywhere, do it and actually here
looks like a guy that went to war and got fucked up from it,
if you see you tonight right now, he's like ripped out covered and tat is. I really think that, like that's really funny
and now we don't do it. Somebody's gonna. Do I now we going to have to do it
relates autonomous, always try to assemble all assemble. All of the cast great pretty great you can play the bourgh type
be great, like that, like it oh raw writer and yet you're the guy super fan, and they
tried so hard to make a reunion work and they do not have a like each other and like stuff flares
between like Johnny
shades because of Faye Color.
And also us thieves, I'm scared or just obese reactors.
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our agreement gives any kids play by chastened bottom
but we are at
the rapid up as I have to go to work. You have to go make
Television show at midnight gotta go, make a program, I'm coming to do the midnight next month. I know you and Felicia and whose the who is I've, heard different things I was talking with with part about it and I was pushing for grace of grace available. It might be own took that because it was right and also I just want to throw out the political analysing the progress, but a huge can gradually
since two billion berry
so much. We would of course things. I've ever witnessed this. This common panel was right.
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fill in and to take on too too who wrote in directed con man and they raised millionth of three million dollars. You put forward, some remained dollars of indigo and any
and it Louis fuck
great it looks so good and that the effects word, and so there are a lot of like really magical fund moments in the town of again every single person. The saviours like ITA can't believe. I'm here, I don't know why. I'm here, I don't deserve to be here with these people has eminently everyone's IRAN's and it's sort of like a greatest hits. A fan favorites in the series is full of those, and
and in the sky Billy did the individual faces visual effects and they look fucking
because hole. I d is that it's a firefly type show that he is
of doing the COMECON Circuit off of, and so they cut back and forth,
to the show that Serbia and its really rating and his boyfriend bury was did all the make up of em, like a visual. Make up affect studio somewhat Billy didn't know, is that bury wanted to propose to him during panel, and so they pay
of the panel? We have gone through everyone as I go alien you know go.
The Roma question? I will you talk to the edge of it and
berry like brings Billy out and friend in front of all age, because now
Can I ask and then, because we had done the stand by
thing. The sound guide haulage jump right on an end as soon as Billy said. Yes, they started play.
Stand by me in Hollywood, what of it was one of the boat ass bugging over there? The it was that I was the distance of the table from them and, like I'm, tryin really hard, not decried. Imagination has been fully is weeping, and the thing that's cool is: is
it was, I think it was very said we could get
could get married in California. But now we can get married at home, but I was just like us together, there's a picture somewhere where you're kind of in the background in between the two
saying affront and you're making this base.
You're about languidly, sobbing ass, beautiful gradually that was grey was it was really cool to get to be to have a front row
see if anything you know
this thing that you want of going into rumour booking job you'll get you'll, get it you'll get all happen. It'll happen, it'll happen a hundred percent, but but you
have to know how much of an ex
ample. You are two people, especially now talking about
anxiety and depression and different in the sort of mental struggles that we all have. Just how inspirational you are two people for just being you, and not only, but also in the larger medicines of not to telling her
We had a deal step, but how being themselves is the right thing to do like being yourself? Is the right path and seeing all those friends up there in
on man panel and saying to people like yet this. This
could be you. You could be working a thing with a bunch of your frankness and just because for the
of doing it and that's that's the most important thing,
success is, I think, the definition of
says for me- is change
so dramatically, where I used to think it was about accomplished
and Sir, how much you could do it. My or one sir, you know, but it really
is you ask yourself? Am I doing what I like to do it do? I have to do
thing I don't want to do and if you don't
you know like the most success you can achieve. As I don't have to do anything I don't want to do. I just do stuff. That makes me happy and that's you know
I think that is so fucking hard
do that is so much more. If that is so much more industry, you know that is so much more value
the then oh, some governing entertainment
he said, I was good enough to play this part,
I mean like that's just that so not about who you are you and it doesn't like and you'll get a needle Edel sort of like ok I'll great you know, and then you can check that box. Often then, but then you'll go
back to your life of being authentically one of the best people I know and inspiring people. That's really sweet is through take a cab thanks thanks for having me, I love me again. I love you so much and I'm so glad that
that we are still getting to do, the silly things that we get to do. I know right yeah yeah- and I think this me
me, the most frequent guest unnoticed,
it might actually get. I think it when I got up because you're on the welcome episode in your and we just
we'll go? We get to sit in the will turn and watch will show sent basically play a private concert birth. I, when you first
we about we'll, go and what a big deal wasn't slow, that ruin concerts for me
How do I get a lot of these other as well? Where do I get to see this cancer all by myself? But if they're letting other people in Ireland at times, one moment at the nervous, kickin sundry, Smart Cross Party, where you
nine Felicia sort of found each other and people were centre like this.
Really fucking great, like we were looking around, we re
a con. Are safe zone
Party was Lou was lousy with our friends like people, like littered with people that we love and looking around like this is
it's all about. This is what it supposed to be about that parties. Why I had more fun at comic con than I thought I would being able to stand at third of the entrance to the party there and getting to see everyone I like,
come in and even a very, not just ass. We walked even with just for like a few minutes of getting to say like like. I was indeed lacking
a year and a half and such like just getting to see over and over and over again wave after wave of people, I love and people who care about all in places like you know. This makes
the comecon worth in like it makes COMECON worth COMECON because, like that, got to happen, and that got to
and because of this thing we built up, I mean that's kind of incredible
and it really working. He can his right. Now. We're really were really fortunate that you were doing Nerdist the same time. We were doing geek sundry because, like it like, we have
clearly established that we can do this as a team, because we both have different. You know it's like I mean
I really do I will. I will readily admit in our view, if you- and I you know, if were it, we're opposite sides,
fine, but I still feel like it's the same coin. I feel like. If anything, I might
slightly more commercial than you, which actually makes me less cool, like I think
cool someone not go. You are you, are you know I'll, tell you exactly what you are because cool? Isn't it
like hey, I got this figure. It out
authentic. Take who you are being cool is being comfortable with your flaw.
Being cool is is it is you know,
It's just being yourself
and going hey. I'm imperfect in this is who I am and that's fucking deal. We that's it. You know like that
That's cool and I say erosion sunglass
and tomorrow anthem, era's camaro income areas. I think we both agree that showed his color than we are
We can, and we can, then we went to a neighbour right now is wearing red and there are more people are reviewed without your microphone got ruined. I've got Corsair, fucking aliens and robots on my ox you're, not wearing socks, I'm wearing I'm wearing half acts, because I went to the exercise facility. I like what, if we could go to me right now, I would just say huddled people is to work with their yeah.
Be cool. Now, now, no one school there
guys, it's your favorite body, Jonah galleys were.
Getting less and less than those signals, a guy and worked with that both amoeba and an arc light and use. I used to do in the company thing
I d, like stifle bunch of my pride, which I rarely ever have as yet still tinkering away.
About regional media, but that's it. You can't
we got the tv show now. So, let's do it. Ok, try diverse, not like a deck. Well, that's it's! What? What did you want to promote something or you're here? We're just gonna be on the internet so up tomorrow tomorrow, this fast turn around you ve got your work cut out for you, I'm at Genk on this weekend, general the annapolis- and we have a panel for my show, titans grave on Saturday morning. That super excited about
Dr Titans Drake is another,
Jen Khan and got no genuine stammered out nope. It's Jenkins. No, I'm pretty sure it's Jen gone. I know you're in its yeah. This is one that you're gonna lose legitimately, not to lose this one. Other facts just not on my persistence. You get access nope, it's jet exercise. Its true then show generator exe
so we're doing that and then titans grave, where in the last three episodes today, which is yesterday when you listening to this episode, eight came
next week is episode, nine and then the following week. As our hour
extra long season finale
and I mean I'm
had that weird mixed feelings, I'm so proud and so excited of having finished thing and so sad that it's over and so terrified about trying to do more of it may be in the future. But it's on right now so yeah enjoyed every that's, that's her ready everybody! I willingly Anna making radio free breeders all the time now good, I'm making a moment's everyday, and that's I mean that's, I think that's it. I don't really have anything else exciting happening just because
of all that you don't cling onto your anxiety as a safety blanket does that make the whole yeah and believe me, I don't. I mean
yeah? I know, I know that I don't need it.
Like it now. I understand that what I've gotten really good at recently is recognising useful here,
full anxiety. That focuses me for work and the terrible
crippling kind. That's just me worrying about shit that I keep will sometimes sometimes the sort of wit sort of its easy to drift a little bit into a little bit about CD. With your anxiety, words like. Oh, this is a pattern that I have to
through the arduous yeah: it's it's not that at all. It's ok! You know. It's actually think that I have to take medication for so that I can exist when it gets real bad news and dislike alright, it's time for you to settle the fuck down now anxiety, but thank you for that. That is a thing that actually put out to people a lot like it's very easy to think like it's part of my process and rising it just doesn't have to be no yeah and I'm taking
all of August off just
to be a writer and do at midnight
at midnight is my only like gig all this fantastic. I really excited. I must
So they have you on an August to ignite. Did you say how big nitrate Macgregor at midnight? I get admitting that guy Glass trial ever put a figure of Mcnuggets TV open time each
in this
dammit aiming at was like
to save time each year. Can I say the words
I want to say, like you haven't, I want to say and enjoy your burrito live longer than you gonna, clap along with me,
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