Hello, thank you for joining us in theirs, podcast number, seven hundred and seventy six Katy living. Sidney across very similar super producer, one for human being thank animal lover, idea, sports fanatic also nervous Community Court Board reader. I clearly what is on that court bored. I want In doing so, you know Dave Clock. It has all the amazing Milltown poster. Yes, such a good artist, yells it as a bunch of us just her bands, torn comedians and asked if he has a website that you can go and buy these these posts and other existing out Ricky has or you could commission a piece from him, so you can check it out at Dave, clock, dot, com and his lesson is spelled K. L, oh see his stunning artist. You mean that those those milltown posters there so they're so as not to let people know that the last episode of the year is gonna, be a hopeful of a bank has less absurd of the year.

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Stella. So that was one of our first of reunion moment: Subaru Giddy, when we got there and we had to swedish stuffed backstage and That was the first stuff we ve seen of the or you didn't see anything we ve seen bits stupid. When we were shooting heats his screen. Some forecasts, like I'm just some, takes and start to an idea, but that was a first footage that we'd scene was the stuff that they should come. So we're all sneaking around cause. It wasn't on the monitoring of that. We will seek around to see it. It looked stunning it did the thing that someone really ass. They looked like a queen dirty and will it go? That's popular? Yes, it did it, but it was different because the scale of it it's so the way he shouted. You know. Now on that special film and I had to get those but the old cameras with the old film- and I mean it really is it really is gorgeous and semi males is is it is remarkable? I may not. I've never worked on it before,

but when we was shooting in us seems, were shooting and you'd think to yourself. Well, I'm off camera. Here, I'm good. Rather I could see the so much of the room and end, then an end after the fact when it, when you go back and you work on a normal, so format. What is now a normal format? you think you're on Cameron. You know you get you get. You get the luxury of that on Clayton stuff, with specially no shit incentive So are you? Are you so whether when you're seeing you your brain is divided where you're you're are you ve got a really beyond it? You ve got to be really in across the nineties curve, the huge or piece of glass we were standing on,

things in a way we have been shot. We will say too to Bobby about shown. It has hitherto been her or is this I am it'll, be get caught kind of a kick out of that they had these lenses. Had this extraordinary history have been themselves. I just love. How excited he was about it, because it's not it's not stunt tee he will give he care so much about it that he made a special video just for COMECON to explain, what it was and why he decided doing even backstage yours like or minutes ago, and we're gonna need with these cameras and this topic. I worked this topic unwarranted, like he was that excitable we have already had more. Maybe there was a couple of times whenever the correct to tweak, because it was it's, it's a new thing in our funding Williams, anything, but they were. They mostly ran completely smoothly. I think I saw one hiccup that was it helping how how is achieved

working with him since the very first time that you worked with him. Well, I feel really fail that he's the same guy. I feel that he's I mean it. I think I was surprised at how unchanged It's probably means that I was so immature, even so much momentum, but I mean it's, it is except he is oh just a no twenty years or so that I have known him. His his film brain is, is just mass is extraordinary and now he's got the tools and any

now he's got the tools and an he's sick cited all over again every every every some every single film. I think that he makes his like that, but I am what with him on the big ones. You know since perfection that was it near an end, and now I see that he can do that stuff. I mean he really knows his way around. It succeed, ridding cyanides to sit on certain just watch him. Figuring stuff out seem a light, bulb, go somewhere and off. He was doing something in a very, very, very clever stuff. Yet we were directive brilliant and we were TAT was taken. Rubber agree is about a couple of months ago about it it's so. It's great to see people who can operate outside what the sometimes creative process killing. Entertainment system infrastructure can be, and you see someone just kind of go. Ok, I was gonna sidestepped that and I'm going to keep doing my own thing. The way that I want to do it and not worry bottle, and he will continue until he stops yeah

Only now again is yeah, but even then now I didn't see any I'd, never seen in any of the films that he's done. Any compromise european money. I'm aware that your where he might tell me I'm wrong you're feel any role as an actor you good it releasing control stuff. With him. You don't need to admit that stuff is so good when you get it yeah you're minutes it's. It speaks for itself. It's quite incredible. He's the only director traffic of anybody else. I don't think there is anybody else with where you go way, you would go to,

and second line meeting on this. This an and because you got it, you want to get it to where the music is is where he had it in his head. When he was right and is- and it's weird because sometimes you miss- we will have this experience with him. We sometimes it miss. I can't I can't get it and then he would have to make that jump for you that make those of synopsis golf pop, but just telling you exactly what was in it. The music was instead, He will tell you if you go off if you, if, if it does not sound and good his kind, were near eyesight, there's nobody in there, I mean we all that bad days as actors, but is a cost also world ever reason, and then, but you know we will be left without. Necessarily here is music in sometimes, but in general, just in general in the business. Do you feel? Are you relinquishing control of because it just at me an actor really. Is it it's a terrifying job,

never know you. Dont have control What's gonna get used, you don't have control, I mean you can pick stuff, get to a certain point you can pick stuff but you don't always know what's gonna worker has it has gonna come across. He really have to trust the people you're working with some right, but it didn't used to be a service, a jump down a bit and scream and shall now if, if, if I'm. Yeah. I think I think I am much better at that stage: the directors medium. It's not act as medium right. You know, writers get tee kind of, although we get theater but- and here was like a play William in many ways, but nothing I'm pretty good at it generally. Actually, if I find them being directed by bad director, witchcraft and I'm just sit back and relax, this

beyond- and here I mean you can be in for an hour if you're in a bad film. How can you tell me what one of the signs when you get on a set you tell right away like I ask as nobody's doing you have harassment most of the time you can. You know you you can, Emily tell that before I think They must be worried about you know. Sometimes you do it decisiveness or lack of vision, or is it just out? This person has a vision, it's just a bad vision. I don't know it could be anything. I was under really really bad film a long long time ago for him to stay so did about Philip, and I was out on a different continent. Arrived cancer set The back streets in already really know English being spoke earlier. What sunset and it was a director the frozen the headlights three days took us.

One to two or three lines, seen you yeah that was out and far away from home and I've done that that that's inexperience but then been around. Really experienced operators but kind to do the same in a similar way. I mean, like I, just managed to screw screwed up for themselves, ready all the way down the line. With an you're at you never know. What's gonna happen, you're there are only a few people. You know that what can happen with you can tell him in the when you meet them. You can and you feel ok like want something comes out you just going well that wasn't I mean yes, I saw my second, not local. That said, if I, if its part my deal it is, it is party. Deal go out and lie It is a game. I sometimes you run away, but quite often you have to sit erroneous

say it was really good experience. Another is bullshit bullshit both and he's got a funny that that is totally acceptable because I'll do it because it the especially now with it everything being so big yeah, maybe being so broad and also when films, that's how they get guessing. I guess you're gonna get to know what it is, but is it acceptable that applying that no one would ever blame for even if someone was like, I think, he's lying to go together with you, and you know it's just enough, but the like in is watching fits cut things I loved him and when I will look at his until a dinner, but on re copyright hunting down publicists, This was done. The interests in the world is watching the people behind getting nervous and forget now coming to any of those who are going that might be and the other one is watching when you got junk

It has been on a radio really really fucking on junket and they are toast, oh yeah, what in them try to engage and it enables us to same four questions- and I ve been asked him for about three months now and they can't remember quite if they ve answered it yet or, if they in the right order, they answering one that MRS right in Greece is always gonna. Be simple. Autism is safe from quest It's pretty much yeah road or was it like working with Was that way? If you are in the annual do ass one, would you would you like to prefer playing good guys back? I see it in silence, so you know that I have been asked wherever the question is: what is it like being on Mars? You know who, whatever the question it, yet you just know they ve been still up. You know it's what sucks those because it's it's such a junk answer such a part of their stratum of sound bite, culture that its very because I've seen people try.

To throw different types of question. This is not your fault now. The way is at an end, and that also has its own pitfalls, because then the person is like, I don't, I don't know, if I can endorse their brains, are some belted didn't wanna be to challenge the moment, but then scientists come up and that's when is it that's? What kind of fun is like a bloody? If there is a good one? It don't. You know never thought that and then Europe, so the races for about in a minute You got a bit earlier than that act when I wanted to leave. You sit in front of the poster again, let me go to sleep in the middle of an individual I know it was in it was peoples in plan.

That is true story. Three men can write a mere with film director of unequal treatment. Some there will work in Iraq is a really non commercial firm. Where can I racism so we're doing press press presbyter, but It was a point when we will have long through the till. We ve been weeping. It turns a couple months promptly and there's that thing when you're being interviewed in an in another language, something for questions right and it may be fine.

Is, but I wonder, is in Japanese. So the woman asked me to question the other woman translated it. I asked the question: that's translate how surprised I say come bump bump and at some I fell asleep a long night and a long day, but my to this day I don't know how long I was asleep. They were so polite avenues of incredibly why they were really say to set it. So it could have been a really snore men of ruin and then went, but I think that one point it must have soldiers touch my leg or semi because- and I work out when we all maybe she's got special, but can get my and sometimes in Europe or in your mind, your screaming to appeal, to get out screaming for help screaming for any kind of backwards, but twentieth I mean that's it. You don't work, for

for all these things! No, you didn't in trouble now, you have never labelling for all the people want a job publicists. I don't envy that job at all, because you have too, you know as this is dealing with performers and performers specific ones and needs and egos, and then the studio expectations may have egos and its basically you're at the centre of this where did he go web? Where you have to make everyone happy you have to somehow I'm talking to himself was somehow have to balance what you know the studios want versus what you know. You're you're you're performer will do, and those two things are not just agreed are not always very difficult. Since I've been here son of a baby sitter to a lot of people in a way it was Funny Beth publicist when I didn't have one

arrive, and it was June resort, those or maybe before a continent which I think was on it was. I think I got a camel those places during so I would arrive and that there be pressed to do. And everyone else was in the bar. Am I still jacket and it was because of their public possess the other thing. What they do is they take the filter? Yeah, you know so you get. This is your Davis is what you do in your free. Didn't. Have the filter now also value the filters get That should be a separate. You know when people, when people, if you're going to be a theatre actor. I think that's what, but, if you want to go into film, I feel that there should be a separate, acting class words like here's, how to walk a red card, here's how to do as junket. Here's how to talk or right. Here's how to say things about having to say anything. Absolutely after that. The skills that it's weird,

and I kind of feeling done. Somebody episode having done almost eight hundred of these vessels. I find sometimes you know. People are actors because they don't necessarily surly wanna, be themselves all the time. I've I found they like being other, people, sometimes when you put them under an interrogation light used, are going. Tell me about yourself a little like I don't really want to. Yeah. I think he should be made it. I was watching before I came here to do this. I was watching Dick came into view rubber, Mitchum uses on in my house this morning as Ex It was exceptional. It was somebody you didn't care about. Being interviewed, didn't, can implement Mitchell. It was also somebody's, very, very good at it talking to and getting ice things. I said to the stated know about me, and I know so is watching, as he can reminds me MIKE

That's a bit yet leave it to you the view, though, that he seemed like a delightful handful yeah. I guess We are coming to stage a kind of that he can get. You gave me shit we're Mercedes. Apparently, Gaza, hey, you didn't ask questions of there and I go none. I did ask your question. We talked a theory we legitimately to go now. Let me hang it, I don't think I did. It was like those like ok, toasted and no wonder going with this, I mean I'm not. I feel that the best reduce like ok lives, I think about to have it did so fat. The so fascinating running by the way are easily discovery for me by a really. There is a whole library. His I mean his interviews with Groucho and Betty Davidson. I mean the thing that cabin is masterful at is kind of firm. The he's good

keeping the ball in the air in the exact perfect way and then stepping back and the other? and just ass. He gets them to do what they kind of wanna do but didn't know they wanted to do he's mass where they had the debit talking about him, Valium Mitch beyond the chain gang. They were talking about, ring king, you know, is he not and each of them becoming a night in what he thought about that in his opinion, obeying a night was not much near. You didn't mean, then something some like this that enamoured with a job for the people around it yeah. I think it s an intermittently men and Cabot's, so smart and Mitch, Miss so smart to them would spoil you having those things that there was a generation of actors who were like well. This is a job

and most most act is most accessed in their lifetimes- never have partly enjoy a really, never doesn't happen at tons of I've had tons. I haven't by the tub in very very lucky. Most we were talking about is the hastily guys we're talking about it like when it's fun, it's rare. When is it when it? When you love it so much we we, it doesn't happen to let people we ve been very, very fortunate group that I mean it's a job where you don't we get to do the thing you're paid to do that much you're not actually spending the majority of your time, acting when I'm in America home I'm on vacation as that's what I think of it sis I'm on my way?

generally not fatigue that enamoured with the hoop working with like the director would ever be trying to my always trying make it worth it never trying to make it work. You're trying to live up to what he's done there, but quite most often young mostly are trying to get something good going on and it can be a struggle yeah Nuttall time, but a chemistry I mean a lot of actors. I told to really just kind of quietly quick in there.

In their minds early when they just sort of take jobs for work at it again, especially when it has been a long haul just but Europe had a rent. Look after kids go to the things you absolutely, but I'm still, and I found it of I found a new really are countries with. I just got off some good jobs when I fifties and and its and it's a cool thing. I thought I was gonna be part pasture and I wish is fair enough. Which had been done. It is not that you know. I know I went that I hope will be. We will. Then this is the Let me sum is a young woman in height flight, but what kind of out there and then,

comes time. Anything are well out even get such good spirits, and then you get surprised. Sometimes I just done up a bunch of work in Mexico. With these new filmmakers. Would you Did a film called six hundred miles about ass, a kind of them? What fast and furious really did to the mexican people? And this just taken on a very small scale. Finds himself and easily smugglers guns back from American cross the border into Mexico, Philip gangs, cartels them and is very, very young. Any ends up gettin a surprise him D, a guy from the year in any, takes him and takes him dead, back cross border smug, Zemin taken to effect what to do, but it's not about that's about his own sexuality and stuff. That's very, very interesting! Yet so up the other stuff you

the stories no actual, as agreed an interesting, so massaging and then and then I did one which we shot here but economical, chronic witches, which we got the f. I first hear things and then it s about a mile nurses, hoss businesses and of life can do play that guarantee in the wonderful and I met that director through being on a jury and cannon, seeing his work and get into I'm it's terrifying, what he did and the one that we so it comes about bullying. I was devastating and so this is new filmmakers accommodate found them is well. That's all that's why it's such a strange question is: how do you like plank? characters are bad characters because there's no it doesn't really. This is really like. Every character thinks they they're good. Yeah. I mean unless you're, unless your fucking nuts, but then-

if your bad advantages celebration of bad, you just have a different spected different belief, system people, I'm an attorney. What Vienna. How does I spoke to her was working with a practical Britain again some time ago and he played Hitler rather well in an interesting so them up what we want to play that too well right, but a cool downfall, and he said it was a tougher like coming home from work every now and then knowing what you a going back to do yet. Really really out enough, though, that we have because it because in some sense of your any character that you're playing that character has to believe that what they're doing is right and he couldn't find as always, the sentence well at least he's not Hitler, literally Hitler this daily over their mistakes and you're, going to the hotel

Mars, Ok, I'm an amateur you're gonna be ok actors that have had a Charlie Chaplin return. This great chapel, wild very aren't warming. It is the opposite of Hitler, my boy at one time What I would have to think well, you should have done, is just head like a fake. Must ash tips on Ebay? I sent him. Why didn't you just ever sat? Could I just it was at that would be a pity that, what's your work, I mean of literally though No one was the hardest one that I've been doing. I wonder

I wonder if some address you don't know that challenge. You know I could see the challenge, but I would I would imagine six weeks in you'd, be in it'll, be pretty heavy, but then you got Hitler in them. In Clinton's movie endorsed, that's true family. The funds have actually ever. That would take a gig. I mean I, you know, I think I think it's probably healthier emotionally, if you can approached it more as a craft where you're not so already about it, where you take it all home region, well, this is a job and I can leave it. We're done that. Oh, you are none, I couldn't Methodists, I'm not gonna. Take your home. I switch it right off. That's good! I mean look at my suffer the next day and get ready some no one

well I'm going, but none of it just doesn't seem like a mean. Obviously I dont know everyone's got their own path. I just to me, I can't imagine how that would be enjoyable of having to do that and live. You know, especially if it is only you doings intense. This is some people were Emily. They they take on with them, and they really do that, and it's just I mean how you work is hey wet, but it does seem to be really tough. I think we kind of it when we were kids. It acts as we we, we kind of thought, that's what you was posted workers Deniro was doing it all. You heard that sure was the case, however, but we kind of gave their past I studied it. So I just never. I think- and I think it switches I think it switches around forty maybe like when you are young, you it's romanticize like. Ah, yes, such After their lack of initiatives are to get all the like yeah would that be,

great, do not have to worry about all that other shit and justify they think they figure that out. We just we haven't figured out the money I mean. I don't know I mean I don't know. I think any of us would like that on labour therapy, I'm a nurse. There are some people, you don't look me in the eye on the way to say you don't do that kind of stuff when you're doing like american accident. Do you stay? I got enough. Exactly No, I don't. I close with me in there arose humming none except the fun once you know, there's a couple of actions are decreasing should facilitate Dwarf George Wallace, and that was in there something you know. I mean ass, a fun accents aegis. Get. And remedy all day makin about, and then is one I just did in England, which is like a Birmingham action,

Burma, our version of barium, which is a very particular sound, which you have to be careful because it sounds comedic. If Europe is raising far with it yeah like Python, a mighty python. Absolutely so they say that, but you can't stop herself and then what happens? Is that bleeds into you doing when you doing a scene was very serious piece. I was doing and scottish ticket take it out of a funeral them. So you are reading at Amsterdam exit spam spam mail. It can have that effect, especially on the british public, who have a point of reference for what it actually means to them is to MR, what's that community, what what is a community of british actors are because obviously it feels me that its much tighter and smaller and never there? Yes, I am, I think, more of my hair trigger job she, Sir, but I don't

I am not so sure I mean I've lived a long time and that I think, is it's it's that so down in London, West Andy, vibe thing I mean I don't know, I don't really know them. I dont know I know a few actors. I've worked with your order, have become friends, because if somebody I work with but put from now the remaining one, what do you do when you know I mean Why do you give yourself chunks of time off purposely to carve out times during the year we ve been sorted to shut down I'll, do anything you want another network? Go get a kiss your college? Yes, so if I thought that the luxury is

When you, when you, when you're doing a job that you'd like wherever you get in getting checking, and then you ve got a gap, but you know what that one's gonna hit the next one is gonna hit see. Then you got back a time off and if you got up, if you, if you got a guarantee blocker time off, that's when you consider suffocation and maybe tat Mister Somers nice. But now let me just add that in on one or two stage will we just went to France for a week off, and it was great so but now go working in the right order. Have you decompress, Well, it's hard, if you do, if you do a job in industry and another one s really really, but otherwise let's go home. That's it! That's all you know like those stocks there's got yeah yeah. I can feel the same way. I got a genuinely I love working, but at the end of their like I'd like to go home and get into bed, and we did a tv things well right. I do a lot.

Really hardware. I actually say that that is not really had heard. What is really time can seem. It's very hard. Work is going down. Mine, hard work is going down your mind. I will say that it's hard physical, is going down a mine, but you know the stuff that we all the different facets of what we all do. To have your brain engaged all day where your super? Here I mean yes, it's not like threatening. It's not. You know, you're, not doing that, more than a great service, but but it is, you feel the exact at the end of the day where your brain just feels like it so wrinkled up. I just I just wanna like I want a flat and it out whenever mean certain details, we didn't you who's out here, oh you did Lighterman yeah yeah. I've never been to tide as yes, oh yes, Cosette just gathers. No there's no real.

Ok, we're we're gonna. We gonna shoot fourteen hours a day until we get this, and then you come back tomorrow morning in you. You know that again and then new for the with the drama thing he had to deal with the spirits of the early hours hardwood, but in oh say, working on the streets and trying to get me do what you can and then, but your any filming all day, and then you ve got your work. Your sliding, through solely to pass the midnight then you're sliding through again and again again to fight to three in the morning at times with doing that, but then anyway. You read your halfway through your weakened and he stood alone. The script for next week yeah. So I was by the end of a twenty two episodes. Whoever your price. There is real challenge, quite enjoyed it. You did you think you do it again. I will do it out of here get here before I went from do the cable version of it in another network motion yeah. So they have low more freedom and more content freedom. I mean there's more: it ain't cannabis, adversity,

last the thirteen. It was unbelievable fun. You know, but we still be many candidates. Susie starts getting funny. Cancer Evans as one of its just got it right, yeah, that's the thing is it you know or on a show. There's something I admire about film is that you there's no real margin for figuring shit out. You just have to figure out your very television if you get, if you see I can tell you now. Ok, all we know. To see. Ok, what's next, these let's go back and fix this out than by seas and three you got it. You have a lot of very investment to kill you. Proceed enforcement have stopped paying on this indications. That is very recent wars. When they start negotiating ass, it was going so well. We got enough at, I thought, really an ethnic. I never go abroad and I don't know we ve been cancelled. Yet oh really waiting tv now is not what commercials in yesterday's nobody does.

When you make a more those, never again about spending Join it when you guys we're on them will hopefully was it. We were you all. Squashed, somewhere in the middle of nowhere, where you guys spending your leisure time together. Was it we're working and then were kind of going off in doing our love? No, we will really none in the in the mountains and up until you writing Colorado, Anne and there was a suspect we'll town? So we would see each other with a very nice hotel with yet, but we were ironed out of the little apartment thing and people were lovers spot. You know it was great somewhere up the mountain he ate. They could should choose to be there if educates something go stay then, but we will have quite some time, so I need to run into Kurt lobbies to like cut. The restaurants caddy seems like the best dude his there is so much fun. I love the correct basis.

If you look at going he's the easy one we take wheeled good text we ve been doing since during the film we stood. Slowly, Ghana and and he's the easiest want to find sleeping it has even been around for lacking. You know you were more childcare is brilliant. So so is really good. You can hit him whether you can him with a pitcher pretty quickly. In response to some of you said it is amazing, is amazing, is s, but we had to some old thing at and I asked Boekman ways seldom gives the cap and the citizen is a nominal guy, but you know, and but most of the time we were working

special. We got down to allay my built. The main said Emma sounds date, any refrigerated so we go in and is freezing put only lessons. We can see the breath and all that going and am, but we ve come out tickets hang up on a peg here, and if we had a coffee circle, gun and whoever was needed. The scene of ever says. I end with an it's that that's when we really got to a kind of no each other better, and I was just telling stories in the measures to remedy not telling store, that's great, and I can't even the fuckin crazy break and, although Bruce mostly he'll, get into really big incredibly detailed film conversations with when I mean amazing, incur cuts good that stuff. All yours too, about football, I mean soccer fucker,

as he would say, he's a rear, his SAM's or the internet. So I made by all the stories begun back and forth them, and that was for about about three months when we do here as extraordinary dreaming You learn from those guys generally either you done by watching you sit much yet I watched Kurt take a room in. I was, take a room or well anyway, and I tell you I learn a lot from as well as them. Jennifer Jason me she's, incredible, gushes kid she's, really good in this she's gonna she's she's amazing in this, but her patience, that's the thing her anchors, both of them, because the situation there in had been very patient as people as actors and were extraordinarily sir, but all of great the guy

James Parks, whose he places stagecoach driver he train for about five months. He can he's the only actor in the world. I think qualified to drive six horse stagecoach. Can I come in. I mean the Borgo number six six. Also I fuckin corner that market as she's. I say that there is a female as well this conflict but bring. I know I know I don't want him for years and years ago the guardians yeah man and watched him. It's been really great to watch him get on. I mean his career. Has its he's just been on a bathing thing

amazing thing after amazing. Someone now yet is only now is doing is dear television, I think, is to season television. Think she's, really really really loving. Miss is wiped out a thesis that Finnish but yeah he either what he came in. I dont know if he was Quince original guy had in mind. I have no it s between to them, but I know I know when it when it was however, this was not a change was when when, when the first, we ve got late and we were so Quentin plants. Do this fantastic reading of the original skate before only for the audience that can't say that one night, but we rehearse for about three or four days and we're already asked Schiller struggling with this in its budget

into its them. What learn the whole thing he came in and he had his character down. He was later came too ready to fly. I I was, I saw what was incredible, to watch That he would do that, I'm he walked around. The description is in his hand, but he was ready. He was so prepared, was so happy to be there and I'm gonna think that that must have had something to do with the fact that apparently never found, because if somebody did that service to me for me, if I visited The term show that would be unless they will offer and they done, which is not the case. We want to see it as a french again. What are we doing in describing ok cause the way? Where do you know what we did a movie too? really ever done to movies. I'm a common

the media and how this house that on an actor and but we the horror movie together in two thousand, and and it was a bunch of people's kind of first movie there. So the guy Ray Wilson, who ended up being on the office in Walton and mean and justice. One little small movie, and so we evolved captain touch over the years and its analyses are truly good. Man you're, just one the fun things out. Getting older and being around for a while, like always been so fund a watch, everyone can go often find there. Exactly what happened with him? I mean it is allocated it like his his career because he came to town with. Like me, I'm seventeen button, pocket in many. A really did do that thing as a kid. But then you here and you hear stories like that, like a woman is worsening, came in and he knew everything any nailed it and he made decisions are ok. What do you know? He didn't that doesn't always happened to the good guys and meaning

if they do that they do not always get the gig, that's true and Anne, and more often than not to be honest that they won't get it. So Well when it comes to somebody's fantastic, such a good, oh good, hop hot pot in person, you know is pretty great yeah. You know he deserves everything. Yap come in turn. That guy is a truly good man, he's agree is a good deal in that that smile. I got that girl, oh my god, yes see that new ways. It is easy to say so great at playing those kind of dirty characters. Yeah, I mean and you'll see ll see in a similar but you see in there and hopefully his characters. Good one didn't give a concept of when you think about yourself and all the role you have a concept of who you are.

How you think people see you or like we're, how do you see yourself? Like you too see items are working actor ordeal when Clinton tells me how obnoxious I was back on. I'm so motor fine, my oh, my god really did I do that? Oh yes, you did This just feel young yeah. So does that, but now my wife does does tell me she tells me you go here sometimes from grump or wherever you know new we're out, it can bleed. I can it's not present heads of myself. That's me as a human as an act of other people are coming back

No, I don't. I don't. I don't think that's all of the sense of headway. You where you stand within the community wherever builder, that's where you got to figure you're, really lucky that you have someone in your life, the Conseil, ok, you're kind of being directly. But that's it. That's a good thing to have my wife and when you ever I mean it's important because you, you know you filling stations, you spend so much time in your own head euro and so much time now regarding all the press stuff in the political stuff in their getting the job dealing with other things in the menu in your own. Had all the time- and you don't know if you really oh you don't you know, and sometimes you do behave like a day. I mean, as so often get told about, but the worst waste is it's ok what he told about it in the moment. You can deal with that, but when you get told about it way after the fact right shit, ready off, would you ever would calls, or else I want to go. I'm sorry about that thing. Yes, yes, fleetly, multiplying.

But not everyone has you know like that, the people who really act up. I think, are they just they buy their cut those people out or they allow. The person in their life they can kind of keep them a little grounded. Sometimes it s just tat you just doing what I mean. I am very, very fortunate and other things job that we do doesn't leads. Who, particularly with with notable exceptions. Doesn't it can can end up with a very short relationship with Yankee. Does you going away the absent overtime need? Somebody can be ready, Iraq, Europe? because they can't always travel with you all know we used to do it. May MRS did it and then and then the kids. School hits. There's everything changes! Yeah than you praying for a job during the summer months,

nice really want either one this kid's your home in a way or what somebody where you you just go out at one look for some of course said this major sometimes look for sale, Paris, self. Rosebud luck lifted Bali. That should allow them everything it does. I believe, make it thus crush mine member of the public. What what do you think is the I mean? What's the key to a good relationship and particularly in a profession, that's nothing as patients modeling, my wife's incredibly patient and heir of the of the kind of life that we delete. Your remove richest, swiftly, That's really follows on Friday. We know about that. No, it's accorded all it's it's so not only as an important, but I feel it is vital for because do you need,

they have sanity that you need the committee. What you sit there are some people. I know you just can't do it they just what the that's not what they that's, not what they want. They want to be on their own. As undoubted find I mean. That's it. That's an unusual thing, but you do come across it. I still concern of mine from men school. She has no highschool whither and work with an eye to renewing Gonna, find out of travellers who can do about it. His life and his life's very very successful. Now, with both cat came up from schools that you wouldn't expect any success to come out of them and ask us what even encouraged him didn't happen. She said. A business card, just then, is to Past the point we're going to find it somebody's gonna put up with me really I mean she's all right, sir, and very very successful. Does love stuff, didn't think clicked him happen. Just just me.

The general aim is really no. I have is this a few billion dollars budgetary potter. She married all these kinds of Benjamin Franklin during a grown up version, yeah. What's the point they're doing either she saying is well yeah. I think it does. It have to do with his kids hesitating, illustrated by the way I'm fully on board. I am making love heard about it. I was offered it. I know Where do you live? You you were offered was Snape was Ritalin got it. I was over there and passed in it because I wanted to I accepted at first and I will put a written by the way I was to impair the aid

at the time and they said face average issued in America. Sizeable would be, will fly back and forth. Can imagine doing that. I mean sounds I could be Zelie will go, but then you'd find die as in MECCA, whether with two until burdens thing and then and then over then doing Snape acting an eye that, but they kind of him. I feel that you chose able resonate. I just I stay I wasn't sure if I was ready to be on a lunchbox right and I was quite happy not to what would that have represented money in the end. I didn't know that at the time I really didn't know boy a monopoly. I predict that let me, but you want a lunchbox. Do you feel like that would make people go always not a real actor. If he's on a lunchbox ninety one embarrassment, kid set as they can.

dad the wizard, no, the cool. When is this your dad's, Erasmus dogs? That's cool, that's my girl, that's cool of my kids. But then you are in the end the hawk you're in the hope movie. They like that. I like what else could I do to lead? its value the movies your maker for kids? Now I know I know, but now there sat upright coming to watch him on the phone I didn't know that I directed we just shut in Mexico, a film

So then Aaron there much might some flew in my boys flew in and he watched it on a big screen. It's a heated seen an that's about child abuse, as a really nasty subject was worried about these finding their way where that now, but I kept them off the set for a long time. The very rarely by visiting my eldest, my eldest in London he's an actor, but these two on these two one well one might end up in film somewhere governs musician. Did you like directing I mean? Do you like the processing of directing you do guide dog? I actually love our hope. I'll go back into small islands, and I would be surprised if you give up their seem. If you wanted to you absolutely cover you gotta take this kind of stuff. I wanna difficult represents.

Working for for pretty much no manager, so you just need to stock up, got it and then and then I can go away for a year and a half or whatever of your just taken Harry Potter. You before I still be. You know the other one which was away his away choice nor the rings for those guys Riah. That's an eighteen month, commitment right, so they all went to new New Zealand. I think right, yeah, there, nay and but one for the kids a good school there. That's it! I mean it was you you have to make us There is now due to inspect battery incredible different, the better part of ten years down there, making a lord of the rings movies that and that such a specific you know I mean it's almost as long as the running time.

Those movie. You wanna know somebody preferred a hub soda loiterings deliver the hearth. Well, I you know The return of the king was such a great action, packed movie and- and I like resolution feel like I like films, that sort of resolving storyline, and so I really love, which I mean. I think more in the Lord, the ringside than I am the habitat me. I like the idea. I definitely like the habits, but it looked at all yet was just so much more. Yes, I just really and also at that time, that's when late nineties early two thousands are you There was such an evolution in film, particularly in and fantasy and superhero elms, because technology finally made it plausible

and so you know this is where you had x, men in spider, man and then Lord of the rings, and so this you have this glad of these movies and ultimately help create the larger tent poles for COMECON Culture, which was preexisting but much more focused on comic book. And so it's now, it's you know if they really establish the culture that wherein they helped steps government now, so I I can totally. I see the aloof of how you gonna be in this iconic thing. In its can we really amazing, but also real Using do I want to do this for ten. Of my left me medicine. It can't be, I'm inhalers is Danny been doing I'm in ten years as it is, but you know I mean it's like, but even in his case in particular about I mean I think, Most people forget now that he was relatively unemployable before I remain came back, I don't know. I went with him. I just short from within his let my promise kept straight,

I dont mean because he's not awesome, I just mean, and I believe that he had gone through a bunch of stuff, and so it was hard. I think it was. I think there are difficulties in during our Yale event, so any completely revitalize and now is an is his his. I think he he had an extraordinary thing about him, where he was he he managed to us not only to survive, which is, is it is tricky in itself, but He was given by the american Press in a way that I don't think never seen anyone. You know, I think a few times I thought as long as because, obviously you know look, I know he's fucking at all. But that's, why he's amazing incredibly funny the panel's that I met but he was so warm and charming in and also he's been fucking phenomenal and pretty much.

We think, since the early eighties added he's done end, but I think in his case I think people can be forgiven is, I think, not I he needed being to be mainly from banal, but just in terms of light on the work from on the work front, I think when someone is lit, intimately look. You know. Obviously I had an addiction. I had things I was going through. It's not like. He me, no punch, cop in the face and there like, wasn't really, but you know he was struggling with something, and made a real effort to turn his life round, and I think he was very soon. It seemed very sincere about it and I think, as long as such One is authentic in like hey, you know, I'm going I'm going to try to do good now, when I try to do and he is so great at what he does. I think, I agree. I agree with you on that by, but I am. I think that I think that if a firm somebody gets into trouble now Just somebody gets into a situation now with tee.

Z, unaware that that we're going on on the study, I think if Robert I Junior had woken up a net that couples house now as opposed to you. No one was it the maiden lay mind these, but that happened that he got so fucked up any of it have been someone has, I think about happen now with the culture that it is the reason I disagree with the US, because the more Charlie Sheen did that shit, the more people he doesn't work he doesn't, but that may be more because it might be not easy to work with I'm. Just here I mean, like I think, your gallery Virginia, seemed very much in the mindset of trying to his life around. I think people do. A redemption story when summons legitimately, trying to turn a life writing people more forgiving than just like. Why can't fucking deal with me? You know what you mean shit like that. You must have seen I saw, I haven't hundreds of times, oh good. Why? I? Never? really aware of it dim that's actual

a blissful places place to be, but there was one guy I worked with two did that who was who who managed, turn his life. When I saw him, I ran into him fairly recently, I didn't recognize him in an active and he turned around for the positive. He turned around really ready for positive extraordinary things. Some people never come back. I mean, I know people who never came back. My fur than ever came back. It was inactive is enough. He was in a warm things in the world it he saw. He destroyed in never really stepped back in this I assume was at a time where people who were suffering from PTSD probably didn't understand that and maybe didn't know there was no time for right shall shook, shall shock and their what their work

Wasn't there there wasn't a community necessarily a therapist bit relate come Wilhelm, Labour, English and may also. The therapy was was a pretentious american concept. Which had not acted on. It's not our, but it was. It was written because my tat was actually american and then became English, aided the reverse immigration thing. He went to work in their. It was, from ships at Bay and in New York and now and then he they put him on a ship him and his family in a horrible family. And they sent him over to England is pairs took into England any point worth a brick factories and eight Emily's his siblings. I think probably blackmail his parents and to get them out there, so they took him down said a paper mills in the the hop fails down in in the south of England.

And then nothing when the war came along. It was about. I didn't, have much more education, but when the war came along, he jumped in early and state the whole time God, I'm in other areas, the tale Gunnar Obama's, I mean for fun, you hear that is like spoke? I never had a chance to note the it was pointed out Emily, If not, it was good, but it still just stayed with him and think that the things it he saw, he told me a few of them. They were very, very, very rarely talk about it, but the thing At least we see that he saw he never came back from. Have you ever thought about exploring that as yet? I am definitely that kind of well I mean he ended up in ITALY. It turns up telling indefinitely and came back. Home she should never done how come it was able in job is enjoying himself. He came back to how about I see the family, and that was it all right back again. It wouldn't Ghana, planes

I would imagine there, so he The time you came around was he pretty: had he somewhat stabilized atropine any favours a journalist. So is a lot of his work. He was not garlic, so a lot. This work was in pubs, sure be making picking pubs and able to snub it. Here I mean special. You think fifty sixties and british culture, which I very much pop culture, and I imagine the time. People probably thought it was weird if you weren't drinking, the public all what's wrong with his wit and then in over all through. We made it through many through to the eighties. Lay it isn t there's a chemist pie member, it was rabid, socialist use, very groovy guy going demonstrations with him when we were kids? You know Anti Nazi League Lester.

So how do you how to get you kind of ahead of you escape that elected you only to our college. We were. We were I. I was a regular so of working class. High School in England and then in a partner in a predominantly black neighbourhood. So let us consider a bit of a long way to go, but it was in the neighborhood was a political bricks to machinery Unabridged near whether these be member was proven happen. That was put me back and may in Aqaba MACE. I want to go to ask why that's just my eyes were wanted to do and are going to a very, very good fanatical, but Monica her mates, as a joke. Auditioned for play an backfired and I got leave with men lags sing and dance. He was a good was called Dracula spectacular. What the valley

Another thing I sing and dance with pay. That's play Dracula a teacher. I also years later. I think what you see she said. I saw us or someone on the run, so she took him here and gave it to me. I didn't know if I just and I did it and I fell in love with it. So now I'm trying to get plays and stuff, but I'm gonna ask over. I wish, and I actually ended up, ditch and colleges and becoming activists and another on the dough

community, but when there is just a baby as a joke, what are some of the songs from Dracula spectacular car remember, but I do have the script to hope that I can live with that before there as a service. But I look, but the problem is worse than that meant that in front of all the police at school of wishing who quite a few, I add, scam, sing and dance in inner city costume, and I thought I'm dead, I'm dead, misty. Three performances of this- I am king gonna, get killed, but the reverse happened. And all ever they loved it? So I just kept in that was my many version of a little bare Hollywood. Fine was will correct school can. Guy knows I'm going to actually happened to me. A high school regular, spaghetti but now it was probable. A roof

Let me express my love, others get beaten up everyday reality, yeah yeah I didn't have when I went to school. I am my. My parents have priests, standard action. They were but the school, how it was a very sad, a very London ice and an eye white I walk through the guys I got them soon is put on the ground immediately sailor. My first dialect when I was eleven basing have survived how to survive. I was it as a first first experience,

think tat going down that road when you became a method of evidence to back the method I kicked out of you got shit, I'm shows LE directors at had left his picture amity. Well now, but you know it's kind of a mean. It is a nice story that your dad had this rough life, but then you he provided you were able to go to college. Now you you have kids in your able to provide for them a new page. I try to provide for us, but for the time There wasn't a student loans system in in place in the end as this is beginning to be, and in England there was a little girl, you got scholarship yet to learn it and dependent, but it

and on your the earnings of your of your parents? How much they were the state would put into your education yet will we were a factual killed out so that we will at best we benefit from that? May my sister she went to our closest well, and so we will. I got to go to college because of this. The political system at the time tat it might have been adopted, could have afforded it was. It was just a general. Our college, like oh you're, doing sculpting and painting and less of a fine arts college. It was no one. There was no actors, just financed I'd, study, sculpture, actually, and we do foundation caused to find out what you felt the wanted to specialise in, but it was graphics or am I just as if it were graffiti? Is wireless causes Campbell our school Campbell Scuba, but it was one of those places that people really try to enter

I just wanted. I have no idea. Why did you complete the I did? I did all the patents that it allows proper and my dad was a great needs. A drawer movement drawing my mom is a painter, but at my mom is a teacher primary school, regular school metabolism genes, but that's what they like to do so and when I was a kid and then and then I was pretty good- think this worsening the wind out of it. What would you think was the most important thing that you learn from from him yeah well I don't know he was he. I suppose, what a day loved me that never stopped the matter were hard should be was going through ever that, I think, is why take away from him as as fucked up as he was

has any messed up z after my Christmas man as a few, whereas there I'm sure they came out in all its glory through organism. By an ever stopped in ever stopped in every sinister Levin. Is so, and we never said Levin him. I said he didn't anyway, so I think I saw I take away from that really and also those that thing there's that thing The idea that you said you could get him on the rascal go to high school that it did not go down get job now. Rhino

wasn't any there, always no future in that there is the idea that you would say to your kid that I think that is very important to set its MIKE. It's too, I've got momentarily. You ever saw in his life, but it s just the cinema. Do the but I'd my kids get that let's just go play college is for you to play for time. Could you gonna jobs come alive to go, have some fun, but who is ill with data and when I did the acting thing in it, they never blinked, he'll or mother. Never glint, because I left at school or drug dealers go to promise of an active and by calling my seven it. Oh, I just went to the door of the welfare of his since signed on welfare adult. Yet I support what would he do Terminator filled in ever signed on again. So that's that's. How I call me that's what I'm weird back door.

The welfare office. I guess that's. Why should I say Cosette? That's how I could just then I could actually put it on a bit paper network call myself was that motivating yet not gets catch up, and then I would do the pub theatre which we have in a little fear coming.

Everything go. I wager worked selling advertising over the phone to people who could afford it. You know those guys, oh yeah, those guys are still call you now. I was one of those at the other end outlets in my written. A pub didn't, try and get some money and then and then got very, very lucky and leading to fill in the television and was that it from an on now I will go back into other jobs, but the first director he was like my em, my Clinton in England. He was a gun in Bangkok. Any was an english directors, fantastic, I died it Ray and carry out very often cannot through Rubinstein cannot through. I count through he. I got a fat time, a bicycle, electronic fight, bicycle pump, theater and he there, the fear, didn't, have a bicycle companies, the release, auditions guy,

on that. They knew about we're gonna fulfil photographer. I said you ve shadrack before and play an anchor. This will go wrong for the sagoths. Thus, the requirement right now when it about this guy and thrill dishes layer of the job in that and he recommended me onto gaining- might leave inflammation. Oh yeah, some return. Then he recommended me unto Stephen phrase. I went through while the three large areas, thereby skipper. Never got it. I wonder whether it might be shooting at this rusty by name is here, and she put, it is stipulated that with your brother were promoting today or do other stuff

too little films are the damn thing you want anything you want it owed much as you want new patent, see this film at. When did it? What does this go out? There's gonna be a later and if I don't even know, if will have distribution for a third of December, for he was too to some slept for boy. Wasn't star wars greater worth the way I don't leave a J J nailed any now that I've seen at nine times. I've never seen a hairs afford so interested in being there. What, if he's gonna unease can be huge? normal it'll, be the prevailing Emily and I'm not even I'm not even worried about a it is of the century. There is no question because you know I think about it.

Later, I guess we're talking about a series of hate formalities, but it, but you know star, because we went through. You know what happened with the perhaps as one two and three in the late nineteenth and early two thousand people are so primed to re, feel what they felt the then they saw star wars again. I've never seen it. I remember when I was a kid Senate I mean are held and was a teenager. I guess yeah. You have been about sixteen here and there was a guy certain token cinema front males smack my head is innocent people talking simmer, oh yeah, Pfeiffer, fucking. Serious, but even if it is a real bad man, that's a bad one distressing graver, anyone, but it was in the end it just came up. It was that that that film was it was one of those, and I think it's gonna be that for for the p

like us that want to rediscover that magic and opening up the universe again and I think, for a whole new bevy of fans of young people. It's just going to. I think, from top to bottom, it's going to be the there's gonna be the film of the century hoops for so many rhythmic. I've never had tickets for mobility. Far, have you got it, you, snacks him? I would yet at well give your problem. We have before us. You gotta go now for any. We ve all seen it by now. It's a December twenty others, go. Where am I gonna be only with nicely I'd say what what I'm hoping to be depends if Britain, Sweden, because this hopefully opens on Christmas day,

I don't wanna. Do you want her to Mamma said she's up with Africa is go to one and, as you know, the Christmas day, screening yen and go tat. Kids, you know sincere and then go home after dinner. But then, if I get away with it- and I think that rates they want to do it, but whether we engage in Vienna and where, where it shine or less from the semi milk, as I wanted to see on the on the big yet completely in. What's what what area will you? What region you be here carefully? All great idea, I think, they'll I think, there's gonna be greetings identified, something your came out. I saw the Avenue Beverly Hills, really. I went to see at last night and it was fuckin awesome, but I now feel like seventy millimeter. I do want to see the new Bev. I think I wanted it covers the sort of the chinese e rights such as the chinese cedar, Nantego responses in the change we have to be on a bigger near have to be right here. I would imagine what they got plan, but that

exciting and also, I think, perfect, counter programming. Is hours when his own world yeah you got across? It's called a memory, for some reason. I enjoy relatively old in a movie and your watch in December. In a bitter and it's like, I see their breath, it's cold No, I feel good about that, but I was sure she was ass. He was kind of a team we wanted all the movies working. I would ever thing that I would mean sponsored by Canada over the old. You, films that you want a desert is the two tiny budget, Lillian dependent movies that I care care about. One is called six hundred Miles and directed by Gabriele RIP Steen and the other one enjoyed by Michel Franco gives chronic Annette. I dont if thou distribution by toys Roma assured that, yes, it is a good great young filmmakers. They re very, very cool people.

Anyway anything anything next year that you really want to talk about anything they are working on that you don't know about yet not yet, because I am a reminder that there's a couple of vertical things: the snake origin story- the ever worsening sniper. Suddenly, if it is now a vampire saying, as I don't get this slave miraculous snakes and gave its neighbour hogwarts, putting out a production of Dracula spectacular that some of the students show up for grabs, feel bad for because, like no man can issue dummy, you should have been in the birthday party. Without that recommend. You know what I mean. I think it's you know, but

but there is another backing. What if I had a thing, is I guess the accident when I was when I was when I took illustrated hold up Alan, because he was the only guy that I knew who directed an actor who directed. They were way, my garden. If there were a continent, but he carried out a mountains gonna, do it united biscuits my would it and a lot more oil keep vulgar, mulgarry, see each other, so yeah, I poorer I read them to my kids: but those is even enjoy I don't know I am talking if you dont, like them razor nicer than swords and mouth orythia. Sorry! Well, you need some kids. You know the current year get your mouth. Tell you anything about any star trek anything! Yes, your eye, Joyce race, bring that Becker here right

I'm on Twitter try to get it was Kurtzman, ok, you know I've been out Chris Minority, The tv see another tvs I other doing from what I've read is they're going to Lodge CBS is platform their streaming plan, which is alarming that the emphasis he wouldn't give everyone Allah cart programming like you pay for whatever cable channels you wanted now they're, just everyone lodging their own state in exactly the same thing you're just doing on your computer, so that nothing I should. On television, the first episode on C B, ass, a man- it's gonna, go the rest of them are gonna, be on the stream, discuss a public just ignored this when they just didn't anyway, You get my kids us how they watch tv it, but it is, it is getting older enemy, a little if you have, any people are asking for a dollars a month, come well that do not remain like Hulu all that bananas in illegally. I never met with companies who have subscription services. They go all rascal,

for about a month ago. It is three hundred people asking for four hours and other people end up spending more cable. But you know within the in the television business you have channels, networks that are, you know, battling for carriage rights with you know with Directv in Timor like all these, and so did they struggles, and now I think it is. Which is the internet empowered singing? users like Youtube to go out made now networks are like. I don't enough, we need you, guys anymore, we'll just put our contents in like their part, a loner along those lines. Do you think the Nielsen thing is of is relevant until now, no not hasn't been not remotely, and the problem is there is. I spent a lot of time thinking about this gazette cause although I do because they could bring the ratings among women the only thing count. The only thing the ratings mean anything to her advertisers and when

tyres, adopt. You know a lot of people who run the big companies that by time those people. A lot of them are older and not as in touch with how things work, and so they are still. And sooner or later, those are today off, but the they are more in touch with the old way of doing media, which is you look at me I'll, send you look at a small sampling of people who would also take the time to do it and they that's the number that they live by. If you could just get advertisers to look at a different metrics or the problem is its creating, Finally, in our room that creates a metric for true social penetration for any piece of entertainment, because the Nielson, I'm an abortion ever more funds to be quite interesting. Nielsen number so, like shows that are considered like all these are shows. People are watching. You know like there are popular shows that actually dont rate incredibly highly according to Nielsen, but because,

so much of the story is in not in how people sit in front of the television set there's dvr in those people are streaming. There is a certain amount of culture penetration, it's not being measure. That is actually, I think, the true number and in as much as I think they are trying to figure out how you there is no one's figured out. They dont know how to quantify to advertisers and go ok, you're show like Madman, which really you know three million people watched. You know I mean it's. It's a decent, respected Now has been both more because his on you become liar, but but The penetration that a show like Madman had on the culture with so much more valuable than what the Nielsen number would tell us that it's it's getting. Advertisers did its finding a metric that measures that thing that then advertise was barely Samson networks solve it

because, because this still trying to tell the advertisers that their relevant that China to camouflage the fact that that There are sir, I guarantee you that shows that, if their, if they, if you saw what the true number was networks, would not probably want that information, they went out there so right now, There is a day you know the main networks have a certain amount of control, but you know with any digital. Any revolution, which is certainly happening right now, sooner or later it's gonna Tipp, because people streaming services, they're gonna form, direct relationship with consumers and and then it's not all that. Knocker Matter, it'll be like the old days of television like you know, Mr Barroso, answers. The Lucille Ball Comedy our kind of it. Should it that if they want to do it s pretty much worse have the big. Ultimately, yeah abide Marbre and it's mostly spouse

lots of accessible proposal, the body, the dinosaurs. It might just be a welcome initiative that you mobs programming, that you know product integration purity in product integration. It's you know it's a it's already out there, but it is going to take a paradigm shift in how is calculated and what the advertisers are willing to accept. As but you know, just like any kind of structure- that's dying out. Some people are afraid to let go of the way things were done, but they're gonna get it's gonna with ball passed. That should be the rule. Eric TVS now. Eighty right right, they fat me away from you verse and then all of a sudden there s one body, Andy's pointing out as murder to right, yeah so

if you just sit back and look at who runs, were three people through lizards and humans, Israelites, garlic, of incidents of Rio character and met in black, we're barely holding onto those or with our view of the masses. Generic were far remarking dear what it was, in time when made up try to sue the Simpsons, and I had to tell him chrome is actually has shown us that started with our agenda by seven May, but I have the feeling is true enough, because it keeps saying things about Fox: had do the fake books They try to go after him and I want to governments, dismissed him up the frightened you and not only that, but show that argument. You know cynicism. The children were the two shows that, like made fire fox that they wouldn't have been there

the five network without building new flagship shows. You know I've got a funny. That's like the other methods, will get two guys in a pub govern our agenda In England they went out and they trademarks twenty first century. First, aren't you Kramer twenty miles by often idea, true and out of it at the last minute, those are the kind of story that occur between one another I don't see why couldn't be truly partially in an area like we just in the last thirty twenty five years, people swatting on urls. You know what will they do certain politicians yeah And what time when I get around every got trademark enabled woke up to website domain You run any, do do any initiative. Was there any webs? Yes, it does not. It I imagine, there's a rapture there's a tumor at that time, but is probably not gonna do any of it. Do you ever see, self you know about going into digital. Hasn't

he himself he's Dracula, never look at their. You know. Sometimes I wanted slap you for interrupting, I'm. That was a genius callback. Us forget that was a beautiful. Is that if we all reference to that in just like Dracula, downcast and adjusted crickets and then mad just leaving this weird Dracula responsibly. Usually after would you yourself making digital content for streaming platform just for the sake of you into acting as a director of sheer Oh yeah completely I dont care will mean still is still. This is a new wave of performing yeah yeah. I like how Clinton purest notion I worked with,

on film for long time, when I saw when I directed I shut on animal feed of wise men to is, and also the celebration of Cinema, but I haven't, I mean much stuff. I didn't stick to that. What's the difference between an Amazon they really mean is its with delivery. Delivery systems are getting getting mixed up to people That's really the most important. The lanes argument is it who wants to watch tv in a crowded room right, and I take that point, but an end. They sell this. The idea, of in a remedy grim constraint strangers experiencing something is still. Such a huge movies are such event movies and as such, the union, because the because he does things that no one else will do. You need it so good to see that with a community of people like holy FUCK, her laugh or be or like, become put him in, but it is

I think it's harder and harder to motivate people mean, because we're creatures of convenience is harder to motivate people to put on pants, leave their house park, go sit negotiator. If it's a movie with someone goes, I could it fucking. So am I I'm wondering if it s a wonder if that is the case, we are certainly in France against movies that really obsess begun, see movies. In the end that experience, I am wondering if that such a thing is changing in in the in the states more than I think I think what will probably end up happening is that going to a movie theater will be all that's like fun, weird thing, like we drive and like driving like devices or to take it for granted, goes movies, but people, Clinton, and you know J, J and Bigoted Garibaldi they'll make movies that you need to you're a big screen that are appropriate for that platform. I mean it's all gonna, you know it's all gonna,

us out that way than those other stuff we like. I couldn't find his watch that on the tv I don't need to go sit in a theater and awful to be that directive. Then we NGO you're the one that they say that bow down. I mean an uneasy Diana big screen right live even if Europe, if Europe is better Storytelling is important to you. I think film will have its own kind of specific subjects, storytelling that is that you, start to see the delineation between that's something you should see the universe. Is you don't need to see that in a few minutes- and also maybe I mean I I I I really go with criminal on that thing- and I'm I'm I'm- I will be doing those digital films. You know my stuff, but because I am but I go,

down there, the celebration Ryan. I paid him. I'm really do because there will be a delineation like that. You're gonna see more people in the quit school style of film. I hope Circle will make failed. Is that they know they want specifically to be seen that way, and I think, in a way, you'll start to see a better crop of film that is made for cinema. You know it's like it. It Everything is so splintered media, so splintered, it's like you know everything kind of has its own way of telling the story, even though fine or Instagram. Yet there are specific ways to tell stories and film is gonna, stimulate theatre. Film is just gonna, be its own it'll, be like theatre by a theatre film it. Yet I think it's gonna be different and you get to sort of pig which I think they are finally being just a diver but I like the one issue on film is a desert: does a kind of nervous edge to it because there's only so much of it. Yeah Amanda

Castilla money and is only so much of it, whereas, if you're on a issued on a hard drive, you just keeps you well that's. Why that's why you know whenever you see practical effect, you go holy shit, they really that's. There was real craft and that they should adjust cheese. That out I mean I I there is a real are to see gee, I'm not disparaging people who were cd artist, but I mean, but because a lot of people misuse it because it's cheaper can be cheaper. When you see ethical affects. You allow as really crazy that somebody to do that. That was nothing. Timber was trying to do with TAT Kennedy AIDS, but it didn't work, but if he could have gone down that road that was was just available at that point. The studio human avis fight to make adopt movie in Finland.

Would you say quaintness the guy of all the direct receives the guy that your most sympathetic away like a girl were to start I mean I'm not I mean I we bump into each other festivals. That's how it's been for a few years, and many of you, he asked me to doing lorries buses when, fortunately, I was doing the tv shows I condemn, but but you know this is kind of us. Just read rediscovering me just made rediscovered. If this is new Are you watching directors on each project as a director you watching going out as they do that are the subject of that story of Dearie? Seeing matter you just paying attention to beer, I'm just watch him is me. I mean it some people just he's what quaintly does what she's ready, which I've watched tonight I actually talking about It is an extraordinary director of actors on many levels, but a festival, and I'm amazed. One of the few rights is that right speeches for their characters that doesn't exist.

Credible. So you better get ready, you know, but he doubted such from the way does I watched him asked as the focus shifts back and forth between the people. I watch him. I watched him quietly just I watch him just shift his personal focus away from from that personal way from me and onto that person for itself, and then I watched it coming back around me if others, if you know that that and that its it's it's weird thing that it stood out, but it really stood out an end and then, of course he either as far as the camera was gonna. Go then set up is gonna, be on that side of the room. Whatever you gonna, wherever you were, I watched him just shift. His personal focus away from that person away from me and onto that person, for example, and then I watched it coming back around me if a bizarre that that and the it's it's it's weird

thing the it stood out but really stood out an end, and then, of course, he engaged with the USA as a director of your performance, but his way of directing is very is kind of psychological anyway, I'm here and it must be very, very exhausting for what is an utterly unique person there's a minute, the many different kinds of directors, footmen groups, but there's only one couldn T Sonia. Well, I I can't thank you enough for your time. I mean this. Was again as item in Cuba as running now, three five hundred yeah, we'll get. No. No, no I'm going to mean ones were greatly, but you know, as you you know you direct newcomers about. You can come back on. Please, please, please get quite enough of your acquaintance. He agreed

to do the platte when, when he called one of our Booker's for the Pike, S Debs partner and said o eight- and he asked me to moderate the panel said sure, and then I was like. Oh here's, my rigidity ptomel due to be does the biogas and he said so he's gonna do not get ready his man, he knows semester. Oh yeah, I mean it's have yet to think that greater unbelievable, just listen to the thing- and I liked about him- is that he's queerly fucking genius, but he's relate above all because he is willing to accept like he's not afraid to get emotional, stop now talk about it and he really cares they. What happens with him in the summit, Some of that you really wouldn't expect is, is he's fascinated by yeah. You go. I walk awaited outcome, You know you'll know some

his name their brothers name, that the person who they didn't even know was their brothers name. That kind of you like some some weird performer is from a nineteen twenties whose he can tell you all of the film that relate to various interests, lock, stock of family. You have to sit there really pay attention. My wife's a bit later, if there really pay attention and end, will covers I've. No idea where this is going in Yemen, My plan is just like other will bring a man just gonna. Let him go, and I know you do, but you better stay. I know what you did This is why you should hope, because it causes it see, there's nothing the heat I stood, move abandoned.

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