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oh, that you are doing, and you read with me and I was so not. I hope this isn't come off a creepy, but I was so like. Oh my god, you now opens really pretty and I couldn't I've fucked up the british rebate, I've fucked up so many additions, really understand, because because you asked me what your lasting impression, your awesome gonna knock your thank you I'll get it just it's like those. We have to find some success for us, a little bit, and I think that guy, but the audition process is so awful. An artificial and like there are very few like there are people who work that our job really good audition, as if the whole separate skill set its its own little universe and it's like I'm horrible at it had warble. How do you propose to prepare

there is the risk that helping them five is, if I hated more than anything in the whole world the words that I paid money. Yes, I'm really good its work as you did that whole other layer, job security, your hired yes you're not like, I wonder and who also thinking when you get a second take away. Their and you're all stressed out Otherwise the elder the testing contesting process is so horrible, like the way that they test you. Shell, like you, have to go to the studio and then you get a and then you are different for the studio people than they give it. They call you go get you made it to the network, and then you go to work and then you start doing the math in your head of how much you'd make. If the shock I picked up and then it tourist the comes in your head and likewise this happens. Oh wow, This happened Sally by live in a fake millionaire so many times

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and then did it work at all with no, when you realise that you were funny like when you realise that comedy was a thing that was sort of in Europe in your blood totally by strange accident action. There's a couple instances I think has always see now I liked attention, but I wasn't I had no. I did not get into acting with any plan of doing comedy at all any particular inclination whatsoever. It was just an actress, and I just wanted to entertain people, and I also loved having up security to kind of live, alternate lives as other people without having to commit to the full panoply of existence of that type of person.

And so I had one day I was somewhere under no, I was just a cafe was friends or someone said you should do stand accommodate this was long before I was active in television sums that you should stand up, and I turned and looked behind me to see you. They were talking about things like Y know. Y know y know, if you're so funny Why are you not any? Was Richard? Prior there was a man, I don't mean to sound like a cop. I almost wish is my point: is that was baffled by what they are talking about, because I was not funny. I was just person, and then I got my first pilot season. I got Tony's, which was the sick call with Lord Grim, Lord Grey, our member yeah and Molly Ring Wolden, and then I kind of got attention from my performance on that for being so funny. For then, I was kind of told from people that I was funny and for me I'll just acting, it was like when I was doing drama colors the same kind of procedure for me. So much

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did they weren't going to me they really onboard anyway. Actually, I just think it's me talking about it and I just like that about twitter that I'm in control of talking about what I want to be taught about you and you don't have to listen, I e on and external media visa to interpret for you or only play the part that they want to play or right the part that they want to play of what you said. You know it's like me talking as I wish, as though I'm responsible for what I say, and I know and I pick and choose. This- is kind of a stand up Jean may be coming out in you a little bit. Do you ever do Santa ninety writers? You think some yes, but you're. Just naturally like funny like you could, if you got up in front of people and workshops stuff like you could cobbled together are set oh my god, sound so exhausting hobbling, is when you re stalling issue, and then after the conference, then it's fine. Then it's fine gap. What your high above the glue films, have you

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Lee when you of your hosting that's something different where you can really have enough time to get into set ups of scenarios and get some punchline going and all of that, but when you're just presenting your walking out, you know like three lines to say: unless you can be really offensive. Interests hit something between the eyes. If there's not much opportunity, terribly. Everything else is Webster's dictionary defines acting and what they can do like throw one horrible thing is fighting the blank it's like. The out of their shattered yeah. I just can't keep it simple, I think sincerity It is a good way to go in there in the wake of an yeah, but but but there's like award shows are such a losing prospect for the people host. In presenting no matter what you do, I feel like the press is ever going to say ever was trying to be funny or No one was funny enough or this didn't. We

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all that, without wanting to tear your fucking eyeballs out, I have things in my life that our way more meaningful than that good, that tempers all of the bull shit, but nothing with that that stuff is, is it's really? It's really important things for me. Are that I'm always trying to grow and improve as an artist and challenge myself performances and find a good material, and then you know raising children who are gonna be worth something in this world good, and you know talking about blowjobs on Twitter shit, important start, but really those blowjobs a twitter. It's really ever marry twenty years. Its accomplishment in this town I dont mean I'm really proud of it. It's it's an acknowledgement that you're still married and that still going on, but that that's an uncommon that that is like that's the Jimmy's on top of the whipped cream right. I think that was a bad now Jimmy there was a bad analogy butter, but I think it's really. I think it's really great

and it, and I think, also the people that don't get behind it on Twitter. It's like for how far can seriously do need to take the shit. You know we superseding only find not follow me exactly as you used to not follow me before. I was on twitter go back now you go back there. You go back to that as well. I just think twitters entertaining and fine, and you know I love it. You can. I love it's great, it's fun. I love it and it's also gotten it. I've eminent it's! It's me because you ve, we both been working the same about the same amount, I remember back before we were really that connected to people who were watching the things that we were doing in European. Obviously your stuff that popular than more popular mind, but it still more popular mind, but it still it's interesting to be able to connect, in a certain way. Whereas before and I was like out, I think people are brower- they think about any of this. Well, you know your democratic, you have many tutor ready

I mean I have one billionth of that, so nobody is culturally and pop culture and twitter and where Twitter falls into that it's all just random, Yonah Lang, it's like it so funny double, because when you go into like these, you no commercial meetings where you know you could get sort of those extra gigs Europe their life and how many twitter followers, who have it's weird or whole part of your raised me idea. City of how many have what's your presence on social media? What's your cloud score, like I'm going to write me. I mean I can pull up twitter. I could bring in my golden global war and robots. Want to know about which is important here and then there's a whole other aspect of what do you want this thing to be good, Do you get hire me? I know how to about the quality of work. I know how to do that. You should do a twig pick up, we're gonna go aboard right there were used, always be used, always be. You know, idly ear. You or people like in this way,

but lose jobs to just people who had been around a longer. You like you audition and you get really close there like they are. Tomorrow Lopez that pride in happen. You specifically, but it certainly got, certainly happen to me a number of times and and so now, there's a whole other metric, where the, where they sort of judge you just feels bit it so mathematical now just down number of followers on which social networks and it just weirder like a blade other guy that has given a popular show its I am slightly uncomfortable with I like it and like baseball breakdown, more statistics, the more nation? We have the better. We are judging whether I shall mention I don't want. This makes me feel weird, but there is also a you know. Funny people tell the people that have no presence on line and yet the fact that they can maybe loser job out, because only

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I'm sure I was really good at like that drive when you're a nobody. You know you want to become the somebody we will take all the risks in the world. I didn't get any particular like you know: leg up or a free ride. Like I worked my ass off from I like, I was sitting in the little my husband and I were in this little apartment on Bronson. You know just behind Victor yup here that brick bill re sandwiches, a victory that I'm not kidding twenty for economic reasons, my very ambitious agenda, but you know I would like to send my head shy to get a list of all the castle directors in LOS Angeles and I'd get had shot and I'd like by, like you know, only those poor countries, we will be able to handle French and I get like hot pink envelopes so that they would stand out in the Bin and I'd send my headshot out all the castle treasures and I'd. Look at you know it's kind of a catch. Twenty two cars. You need like a real to try and get an agent

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meant road and wait for that. They wouldn't come into the lobby that you now, and so I would leave after sitting over half hour, hoping that they would enter whenever I just like, leaving with a broad desk, unlike mope illegally, is at a word mostly. I go. That's unlikely ever form of remote and leave, and then I mean it is impossible to get an agent. Nice have managed to agents in. They were never coming back and was like you know. I through the whole thing the whole recommend ruler work I mean I didn't. I worked from the bottom up hard. I was there any sort of did anyone perceiving the my last name and go Merla buried me right yeah. You're, not using that at the time. While I got married in nineteen ninety five, in fact, in February ninety ninety five- and I decided I mean I was like I'll take on that name, and it is a famous neighbours like that.

Her ram had shot rolling, go boy. Gauvain has, I think you name and then, and then I got finally got an agent the summer of ninety five and have always stop working. Since that's amazing, so what I got an agent. I just need someone who believed in me put his poor little juice. My way, you know, in terms of like some support and phone calls and whatever and as soon as I was starting in the rooms, I was booking jobs. I need someone to support. You might get me the room. I just thought you I mean, I wonder how many people do the sitting in the flower with flowers thing I mean usually that doesnt work, because it just didn't it didn't work this time work, but you know still putting myself out there it let each choice led. Did me coming up with a solution or having to think of a different, clever idea, so is actually worth it. I did a horrible thing once, which I am so yeah, I'm a murdered this girl. Now I did a horrible thing why to get home to make?

I think you'll find the doors are locked, but I did it. I did something which, when I think back on it just makes me go because I had that same like young accuracy and performers have this very abies Logic like I will. If you are nice to the agent they it's like, it's all there mom ideas, their ideas, that very idealistic approach in I worked and when I was in college ideas there mom ideas. So, like your mom, play your mom's always say like that. Your mom won't let my mom would always say like. I know you should be on Frasier, I'm like that's a great idea. I'll tell them, and so I worked at a country club and I was knowledge and Sylvester alone was playing, and so I will- and I parked cars. So I had my mom began by those, my big in my head. You know like I've got to save you really understand you see them.

What? U real, what you learn when you and I'm not the equating myself with done as down that level of Stallone but like when people see that you are successful in some degree they think like. Oh, you must be an inn to that oral death and a lot of times you're, not really you're. Just tool in the machine the same as everyone else, but I saw I had my mom facts, my headshot to this conference. I was like nineteen I had a fax, my headshot and then I wrote a letter to him on the back and half of it was an italian because that was my language in college. I feel like I feel, like gird, like acid reflex, It represents a story, for you and now, and I I put it in an envelope. You know- and I just said you know I want to be a performer and I just any advice or blood, and I just put an envelope left it in his front seat, and I am I, I feel so stupid that I did it

but at the time I made sense view of what I have now that you'd, like even put yourself out there to do that and now you have success, and I just think that that's charming. I would love to think that, right now in a dark and mansion Stallone is listing of this going it all worked out, but that I think that I I I appreciate that people do it to me, because I get it right like I totally completely get it. What do you tell em when they're like journal? What can I do, or can you help me or can you remove? Completely get it, what do you tell em when they're like China? What can I do? What can you help me, or can you remove the most intervention? The scenario could sometimes it's like. I've been in the public, bathroom right and they're, asking me through the stall

her at a sort of like going adorable hours and times it's. You know: Visa Facebook, twitter or someone actually really try to contact me and mentor, and then all I am working on something odd them come watch. The satin come see what it's like. You know, one time I flew there's a girl. She was a teenager issues. Now a grown woman has a trial, but she was just like very persistent in writing. Me fan mail and I could just tell me something? She's very driven- and I really just could tell from Jones walking back I'm sorry June Rivers Jones very driven with her. I feel like does it feel like where it is.

Laboratory, zoo, eleven decade of reverse John Renault Impersonator though, for the vast majority of us just walk by stopped, waved both arms wildly at us and then kept watch that was your bad for Jonah raise joke, I can say, is that I think are starting Joan Rivers would make away worse joke about herself, so much that it does so and she has That's why I make that jokes about my business. I will get you a copy of a piece of work if you haven't seen it yet, I will get you a copy of a second ok so anyway, so you feel this girl out. Yes, why call her up on the phone game? Your number in her fan mail on and I called her up and she like couldn't even speak because she couldn't leave us calling her. She was cleaning up all the

nor pants for a minute. Visual rose story. The weird her dinner time and I flew housewives undermine rag and flew her normal amount, took her to Disneyland and brought her to the sad and took her out to dinner, and she was like didn't speak the entire time. That's so sweet she was mortified. She was so into office are often timid. Eighty eight are now over well right, but I started getting like are now you can have devoted doc. I fire ass out. Don't you asked me some question by brain? Get some advice. Slight united certain get like aren't. You know I like it was an entire day, dizzily tire meal. It should say what the fuck did you get the Kyoto the lines at the zoo into? Yes, we can see that

Ah, the definite perk availing abc, but then she ended up took a better or challenge she went upstairs. I mean cubic down had been on follow up with this like the most deep heartfelt letter that she would just if she had started talking me, she would have Start Bala cohesion, but she was so quiet or so with showed up and turning it J Leno said I'd show irrevocable and she started work. Do you went through college work, your way up, and then she, you know, move back to Texas and had a kid is changed your life a little bit but their school. We made friends and choose you now. That was just like a fun thing, but I appreciate people who put themselves out there and I think that, even if something does it come from your immediate gesture of putting some yourself out there just by doing so, you either. I don't know you proved yourself that you can. Then you just kind of like something good. If I five years ago- and I said through, occurs, Hardwicke or be able to comedy, unlike hey little body,

pull up those bootstraps in height, no suspenders, and let's get the fuck, get your don't even get your coat fucking, let's just get out of here and then ran away, we're going straight to the top body. You and me we're fine. Evidently, every jacket are blocked. At least you like the competence to put yourself, but the other thing to is that it's I'm sure, for you would also probably feels really good cause. You see yourself in that person where you get to go. I wish someone had done this for me. Sort of us reason for doing some yeah always wished to like it. I like sitting there happen to be discovered, whether she added a pay. You look like you, ve got some. We feel we have authority. My time here, you know who's the nicest guy on earth. Thomas gives them He really is he like room? bird. My name always came and talk to me getting elect, bringing up with anybody to railway staff and fix it, and you did it happily. There was a cool those guys

remember my name was it a fight that was that have experienced high grade was fantastic. I had a great time. It was like you, I just and counties which was like my second time ever going to network. Might you know like that was I have even had nation for years my first pilot season and then the final day filming counties. I had a development had immediate Twentyth century fox, where they want to give me a million dollar development deal the good old days, the leaden era, I never forget, is a line in the soprano is like the second season and he said, combined with clinic why, how said always this fuckin money or what's gonna ones, places bets yeah. That's it the television businesses not anymore. Now it's It has shown its always the same thing. This project is coming out of the economy.

Mental division- and this is this- is a pilot presentation really weight so but the pilot minute at its pilot presentation, that extra word means that will pay you a third of video. Thinking about just starting in is a web series and then see that gets a fractured and online, and if we can make it we're gonna make this a series of my kids phone and if he likes area, they will move it on a letter that give favoured nation they related, and I dont doesn't people listening. I wanna go acre com. It isn't like the right people, people who was in people s lives like hey, fuck, you with Your quotes a lot of money, but what you have to realise that when you get into these It always sounds like it's gonna be a lot of money, but it there's an exclusivity period where you cannot work for some so, if a minimum wage, or so you know what they would do, and this was fairly common. You know during this sort of this sit that the communist era

how many rumours in the eighties and these sit come cut. Stand up. Boom was in the nineties wherever was trying to Reno like redo Seinfeld and an improvement in whatever, and so they were, they would just throw out these development deals to comedians and it always sounded like a big number like yours hundred thousand eyes and they like, ok. Well, when you pay taxes on that money, you're not used to making that much money. So then you lose like thirty percent of it read. Then you lose another twenty twenty five percent of it up. We can because of agents and managers, and then- what you're left with is year. Fifty about knows what is actually the Langley less and you and you can't pursue other work, and so it destroyed. So many

people's careers for a few years, when that was happening, done this development deals and nothing ever came out of them, and I realize it feels like its sequential problem, because I think the writer has to be inspired to write something rather than just being squatted and tried to take a piece of talents and thus forced on them right and try to then come up with it. You know unless they are truly inspired by that peace, a town, that's what inspires them to write a story. That's gonna work for years on end, it's kind of a writer in my opinion should be inspired through whatever process. There is spot

by and write a piece of writing and then cast it. It's like good old fashion, sort of sequence. Do thought audition for us over. They did they give you stuff. Now. Are you so I dont really audition goodbye addition has then, in on you know what kind of fill that is something I got an offer the other day for a company. I didn't you dont have to addition but depends on you know. Some of them depends. Is it? Is it scarier when you can do when you have more choices, you always think that's gonna make things better, and then you get more choices in your life.

With its. If it's definitely I passed problem of navigating the choices once you have success, because that is you don't lose a matter so much more in you, don't know. What's gonna happen, starting off the something's gonna be successor, not right, but when you're starting out, then you just pounding the pavement just to get cast you don't care of it like gets, killed her cancelled you're, just like ok, I booked something. Ok now the next one's gonna be ok, but there was no success near like that. Did go dig and then it starts reflecting on your career. You know right, it is in there. So many factors that are out of your control right, even when you're have some Star power is still so much out of your control its, but I'm not complaining does. Of course anyone wants to rise up yeah, I mean you're right. It is. It is a bit like daunting because it is out of your control. It is a high class problem of queer actually right, but it's also, I mean you're still a person with a survival in

thanks who still wants to be relevant and work for as long as you can, and you don't wanna be you know like you, you just did don't wanna get that call where you were you realize like yeah. This is not the case. Then it just reminds you of you know like, though, there was a bearded time where I could use that like good get arrested. One way is night, his eye, I I know I had to work so hard to get where I am that I know how to start from square one again. I can do it all over again, because talent doesn't go way right. I met the illicit drugs yourself into a stupor re. Can access your talent tat would definitely destroy your ability to have your talent sure that is to tell him unto itself that is an inverse Jonah? Stop trying to justify you're drinking, I almost got us haven't, doesn't go away,

better than you do you're taking responsibility. What does anyone doesn't go away? So it's just you know. I know I you know it's whether things of it's nice that I didn't have any free ride cause. I know I got myself here by hard work and I can always do it again so, but this businesses is way should hear too women. We should hear an, but I always say too friends of mine who were women or comedians, and they go like known I have a window and then and then the business wont. Let me work in and I go you're funny. You will never not be funny. You will. You know, whites, ninety fucking years, all entire Betty Rights Day, which is doing in it I mean

all the more urgent everyone will cause. You got really Osborne telling us man get crazy about Peter autos. Thank you, get us a very shows very nice guy, or that he's got rates. She does a very, very misleading, porcelain, yeah porcelain, like slowing the power, I figure sold her computer Did you men, IRA takeover bid, me or by other members you how many thanks for so much for the union that guy that she was gonna marry the time over. The blonde do know, because I don't know who data whatever I'm with you sure she was with that guy get whatever ok, ok zone it anyway, I forgot. I thought we were on. We were taught her. We were talking about the oh, I said, Zog about women, visible, is being shared. Just saying, you know in the more dramatic side that they now, thank God for Male Street and Helen Mirren, and yes, they God for how a mirror

funding. Emails are amazing, thanking manner The less gives women who are starring in big companies that are making money that are obviously way past forty five jump, and I think that's I'm, I'm very grateful to them and to filmmakers that are opening those stores, because it doesn't have to be an origin news game only well. I think I think that's part of the sort, You know just mass digital culture that we live in now is that the exposure does depend on four studios right anymore? I it is, actually, you know, doesn't pay so good, it doesn't things, but you can be artificially satisfied and and still do good work and feel like some pride and integrity. Do just don't need. I mean it's not

you know, I guess, there's a certain comfort in being picked up by the studio system they go here is like there's, a million dollars are going to, but but ultimately, if you know, if, if one of us got any of those got a call, that said like the business said you can't work at any more. You could go well, fuck you I'll just go, make a thing and put it on mine and if people like it, then iced than I win absolutely and then, and in that you know any time you have power, and I have all the people who want you advertise and then they'll pay for that Young Belgium come to you. So with enough confidence and enough persistence- and you know you can serve, you do anything survival. Integrity and put yourself thirty. A lot because I know is that you can do anything about a hardened firm song about girls is about. The song is not about. I understand the song is not about girls, I'm sorry, I just out of the punchline. Yes, it's a stupid carbon

song and a friend of mine and I wrote, which is that not appropriate right now, I've got it is it's this I hope you're, not a proper. You can do. As you know, it's just a comedy saw larger instrument has been like about it's just that it's a you know maybe I'll play up I'll put the song on the end of this pact has put the song on the end of his pockets. Is just a dumb silly fake boy theme song that we made some up oil tankers that, but you just give with a twist. But the whole thing is a like it's. I gave way to his bank Esther, it's an awe inspiring song for everybody until the last. Yes, yes, yes, you egg complicity of no, I it she's gonna. When I listen to the show bag password, do isn't it

I've got you violence or anything. It wasn t easy. I just started and get into it more. You know with great filmmakers and stuff while I'm driving, so not just one was that in the future, what's the vehement or high, because there is a camera, the name of that it's out of it was meet the filmmakers or would meet the fog response sponsored by twentieth had refer. They might as well have one riveted rapidly to ensure that it is just a good anyway, think is just an interview thing, or is it just like this? Have you What about doing something like that? I think you be really good twitter podcast. You indebted chosen high five, I mean listen, you Eve seems like you have a lot to talk up like you, a lot of fun stuff to talk about, and it's a way for you to express the funny part of your brain without like doing stand up, but like you like that whole thing

Jenny couldn't it was, was a half hour passed episode of you guys, go back and forth, and not only that, but where does she live and tell us what it s? The girl well she's in no way radiations landed and we're going to be doing Santa Barbara together, shit. Look out Santa Barbara outfall. Bang A wave of our own raw we're going to Roger we're, gonna rock your fuckin retouch window tree right off your z, when will be broken by the time they leave. You know and then also brought about, and also you got a lot of fun. You got a lot of fun. Good did vote means that obviously you care about people and Performers and people who are trying to do the same thing. I just think. I just think that maybe there's the podcast that you could do you make me they might not really not really felt. Just for the fun of you heard what he had to give up. The wisdom does make em

these guys are not listen to applaud cast in two years that we have made this point as the ones and not on yellow ego. The ones I have added, I listen to so too. Two out of a hundred to one hundred and seven, but actually I could be doing something like that. You be great added, I think I think in and also just fun you know. Well anyway, we can talk about it. Offline, you listen to this. You know exactly because I'd I'd gone me feel bad. You know what I do is sometimes I do just to make sure down quality like ok and make sure that sounds. Ok, quality assurance! inspected by number six numbers: as no, I make you have boxes agree. I am a number, I'm not a number. I'm a free man, Josie the prisoner. Now that's a fun. Sixty serious you shouldn't, like you, get us that all this

people start lie. O Donnell believes was idle has never seen the prisoner had it. But I'm happy to have been here. This is this is like the prisoner of another. This was really great. I'm so glad that, because you know again, it is the power twitter that we sort of became acquaintance stunt on Twitter. It grows No, I wasn't grows dirty. It was very sweet. It was very sweet. It's like you, ve got some will you come I guess you're like sure, and here you are and then it and then it did. You hear from me for like a couple but I never how just fell out never like I hate bugging people that stuff so I've. Just like. Ok, we'll shoot you, no whatever it's fine. And then you, when you wrote back it was there was a nice surprise, and you know the whole thing where I, but I would. Let would go to dive little.

And get some rifles one of these days and and talk about passing in fun stuff, and we asked what to do then you wanna plug, promote really well. I will be seen in the fifth and final season of damages this year on Directv Excellent, that's been incredible, total dramatic turn very dramatic Rhine Filippi is also has a very prominent role in the season and an obvious working with rose burning. Glenn closes like awesome. How do you work of rose burn so amazing to great? But how do you walk onto a set with Glenn close and like do you migrate by the end of the day? That's rose and ask do. You feel inspired by that, like all my guy viral exciting sowed the first day, it was my first day it was the first day of the building and it was the Most intense sea like might higher life is like personal and business.

And I am like totally this mental state and it was with What Club Susan one of my heroes, I had the worst headache by the US, so in my head, going like, oh my god like what does she thinking she thinking? What was going to tell you now in this measure mannequin anyway, I had a headache but Glenn closely. Since such a professional or like she's she's, probably just like you, know, she's either present in the scene or just like it, airplane, like rightly the iron on like She'S- probably it's just so much a part of hurried down to which she decision you got to talk,

we're before now little so nodded diva, she's, so down to earth which thank God, you're, going to be like my noisy bream. If she would bid it even to a private, it would have just I don't know she was so cool a great sense of humour and do find that the most just because of veto just because a being me circles foresaw and you find them talented people, the people you respect the most tend to be the coolest or their a couple with me. I have to say that our couple warrior like White, that person have to be a dick, yet All of the above man. Doesn't you now you and your people sale, tab older? You know the great ones are the down to earth once ride like there's some cravens, our total assholes their legends, but Calhoun Grammar Kelsey Glory, I'm so happy for have. This is a side note tendencies he he got. This new show

yeah. I I'm just and every time he thought up on thirty rocket, I loved you Oh, I never even asked you about working on the George Carlin, true. That was one of my first gigs we and you have. I got that no, I was taking a tour. I think I somehow got all the water brothers Lot and was in the casting offices for olive oil, brothers, television and I just start making the rounds well, and I voted only I and I was using my husband had like he was where he worked more than I did at the time, and so I knew that he just done something on this. One show like having to go even say, I'm his. What his girlfriend strike up a conversation and have my headshot ready and I sent bodies girlfriend and, like oh dear,

I've been honestly. What like this do. Yeah I get my car. I have to go, get it to me and it was casting for like he had a dream. George Carlin, the sea was George Carlo, had a dream sequence of his master Pretoria, half of Europe, a girl. The golden front. Laugh in and of ninety fifties. Pinup girl- and so I was the gold I got cast- is the building. They rode all over your body. I had laid a long one way that was taped to my bibbs and then by pain, and I was in the dream sequence. That's like my first given that came from like I am bodies girlfriend and then another gig I got is my husband had booked

that you should see my wife for this than I audition and got it and I'm gonna go around thing. I'm bodies girlfriend yeah, that's what I'm going to stay yeah. Did you meet George Carl Imminent, but you know I was like a little. They player, you now say: listen, he wasn't. I mean. Luckily it wasn't hitting on me. Weird arose and awkward right and last but not least, I felt there is really going to be working with George Carlin. I love that I got the job the way I did get out because you really feel you earn it. Will you also sort of helps to justify like this isn't a complete waste of time? Yes, eggs, We sometimes that shit works out teeth off. You make your own luck, you say well, I am is been an no pleasure to have you here at genoa, often on the tweets, any other social networks here on the facebook too, I am I'm loving, Google plus a few or Google plus that

so a fun social networking done that, but I'm doing there's another one that I just sign up for Gambling is pulling out here, while you're doing that. My mom sent me an email today. My mother never sends like comedy emails, but she sent one today. Gambling is pulling up here. Why you're too that my mom sent me an email today. My mother never sends like comedy emails, but she sent one today that it must be an old. It must be an old web thing because it, it feels like all this must have been done a long time ago, but actually thought it was real.

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