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action, packed pack ass, my friends first or france, from project I take this on thursday night. I waited for the actions of all again renew powerful, have done this in couple weeks, we're heading into december. A brook everybody down from thirty to one in some categories when read through it, and it makes some jokes, I'm gonna try to do this in twenty minutes or less we'll see. If I can pull it off. First, section is the dregs and what's it is of eighteen aims in this bottom category, from thirteen to twenty three bottom aid teams that have a net rating of mine seven or worse, were gone back to the eighties. When I was growing up

like seven eight crap teams at all times, just like we're back to that number thirty detroit they block. Sixteen straight will go back cause. Second, twenty: nine san antonio twenty eight washington, those retains combined. Obey winds, were a member this, I remember, his berne and said now wouldn't find jobs. Come back will be like thirteen and twelve the right now, you're, foreign, thirteen, just as it aims to go chicago- is that number twenty six there internet in overtime against war can get back to them. One second portland five. You tat twenty four and then surely at twenty three there's six and eleven Yet they have a net reading about minus eight, so going backwards, two themes alone mentioned chicago who I watched when they put the south exceed the night, and it was one of the most dispiriting efforts have ever seen their coachman that the celtics did hack, a german. He should be mad at his team They play a lock it and I don't have that of being derived arose in and

I haven't thirty percent, says that this emotional win and overtime, and to me that's about fifteen for red flag that maybe you should be making some is the problem, is they paid levine animals two hundred million plus and it was one of those things it was like the wizards bradley bill. Were you had this asset, you wanna keep it. But you don't really wanted either right. It's like you, you read, his house and they kept the couch in the living room you dont like, but, as I got a free couch, any just hate the catch him, our time here in the house. I don't know what they do with that, I mention this said tuesday's pod. I went through other teams. As you know, the because of the trade machine. I went through everybody trying to figure out who wants acrobat couldn't come up with it, who some for that kind of money. He doesn't play the events his team place better when he's not out there, they might be stuck without by

I wonder when this trans gonna end of the team, god we don't lose em and all of a sudden there, One remain in the hall with somebody that, while the other team here charlotte at number, twenty three who can find their starting five one word now he could go down at any time, but heyward with bridges with lamentable. Alan rosier mark Williams, like they're one of those teams when you're watching them are gonna. Wait. Is this an mba team like a like a decent m b, a team is this the Zack levine home. I'm over that trade. Look because they have heyward unexpired expiring. Could they play? so it could be heyward and rosier whose good tonight fur levine, and then he take ones ball back those injured you could read at the ball. Brothers hoped tat. He comes back in a year, no picks it are so charlotte would basically just beginning payers, expiring ambrosia, whose really solid rotation guy,

and you get Lavinia figures, money back and lots of his heart. I was trying to figure out who wouldn't do this. An amount of stalemate, who says no faster. I think it's a no from both sides, but I do think there's meetings on both ends, but that's where It means value, is, I think, at this point, it's an expiring contract and a rotation guy, and you might even have to take another contract off their team. Alright, That's our bottom: eight deaths, cattle, the trade machine mercenaries. I got three teams her brother, has died and I may last night to run on nine and ten, an awareness, eight, eight, nine there, the twenty, a team me, these are teams, were I don't mind the rosters when you watch them they're, fine, there, okay, like broken the pretty good tonight, toronto. You them they're, always hanging games. You know my them at later, their fun. There there are fifty offense for their rating.

And yet something missing, and you don't even really know what the traders like a you're atlanta. What's the trade in trade like Trae young? What are you gonna get form who was tray on who is to pay the price for jane he kind of stuff In the vicinity of the team you have already said: basically, you just have to hope. They're going to do better. Jalen Johnson got her for them, which was really tough. it is probably the best guarantee toronto is a team that I think actually should make a move them brooklands unaware its part because they don't have the pit. It's gone houston, so you you don't go backwards cause you gonna lose your pic anyway, You have some assets, phoenix verse. Twenty five seven a couple other bags you know what to do: there are no man's land, they were bank and I've been sentence which you gonna get. We deserve their days already. Her that's happening,

if they're going to tread water- and it seems like they're one of those teams that is kind of waiting for somebody to get disenchanted with an asset they been sack of in to- now is the time our heads up, but though, because the team that has made sense for a couple years. It's a team that They don't get to the line and they don't make threes, which is kind death, and in two thousand and twenty for basketball they're in the bottom. Five in both nfc icon is a free agent. whose three points shooting has dropped from thirty four to thirty, two to twenty percent this year. Twenty percent used to be. Like I remember in the colossus new felt like you would actually make a three now who knows, but I still I feel, like he is an asset. I was trying to think: what's a good seok m trade, this is you know this is why I'm the trade machine legend golden state, wiggins income manga for sionko, who said

no wickets terrible season. Really, since last year, when he disappeared for six eight weeks, we still don't know what happened this year showed up out of shape, He was terrible for a month solid and really really hurt them. Stop rebounding fanatic again this week, but he's canadian commander it's your three for him. I should know by your three have a chance of being somebody with him. Clearly needs a new team and that's the outcome, Take a fire and before the warriors gives you a little more size change Is your team a little bit gets you out of this wigan situation. Thank you, wiggins. Thank you for the two thousand and twenty two finals and we're going to have to agree to disagree on what happened the last year or so, but now you're going to be in canada. Good luck and if I give up on the commingle thing, which I think they have to any yet see. How come you take a fire for them. You still have his cap figure, you got sided trade this summer and he helps them. I kind of like it

she's the trade that makes sense in a whole budget. If we need to prevent iran or shakes her up or are they get an asset and commander? Maybe they can rejuvenate wigan stats made the next group the past performance. are we just won't mention golden state, their nineteen? For me right now brutal- now this sums it up, their net rating is zero point. Zero! That's going to stay in a nutshell!. clippers. Eight nine playing these two teams are playing each other right now as doing the power pole. So who knows who's gonna win, but the clippers are eaten as I'm doing this and that's what I am powders not missing. Games we talked about the monkeys. I don't want to talk, but co, presenting Maria I'm not taken them seriously. I don't really want to go see them play its a weird situation about season tickets for twenty years and they ve had really bad things, that I did mind go saying. There was a year with that zach randolph and baron Davis, and it was just an absolute mess. It was like a parody of an mba team,

great time going. I really enjoyed seeing bad aware that best, but because at least that was something this clipper seen just watching. the stoic demeanor and whoever gets the ball over. My poor gets to shoot him. James hardened, just once a week, seems to care I can't do it. I don't know how many games I'm the go to this year, but coopers tickets they might end up unless my time, the guy, I should think it's worth amidst he's taken up. They might end up on the ticket sites, maybe happen. It don't enjoy that when went and went to. The denver gave money right bad times that a funding, because it scattered over this. It's fine, the wild cards numbers. everything Houston, I don't love. That their windless on the road, not a good sign. It's now december get it maybe get a roadmap member. Sixteen cleveland, that's! What's gonna change! First, the coaches gonna to change the JB bickerstaff thing there ten nine they were minors, narrating

when you watch some just something seems off. They just don't seem chris bouncy polished in. He would be a candidate for me for first coach, maybe too maybe too are tonight have his job. at some point and I don't even know what they do, but they need to do something something off with the with the mix May I can't get a handle on it, but I've watched enough that I just something's doesnt separate with that number fifteen dollars, though let the defence it up. to take them seriously as a competitor. In the two week, playoff series, any game like LUCA, can get high, have his forty two fourteen and eleven or kyrie can have the thirty point game, but for the most part just don't see them with the current roster the amateur yet stop so they say

I got either a playing team round. One noted, but was a baby lively, can cater to blossom for them. At the lakers at fourteen and I dont know if anyone can in them out at this point is in town but pretty unhappy twenty games for them. When you think are man, I think I had them. as the top three team I had their over under, which was maybe forty six and ass. Something tat That's the measures already, but what's what's a little scared that were brought has been around this whole twenty again see you think like if you're getting out elaborate for the first forth in season he below better than eleven land, they looked slow, they have trouble guarding wings, and this feels like an incomplete team. where's. The trades duff has already started with them in there. You know tat, though the really contract he got her. They have Russell they stay, who should be now that their twenty nine first and it's just

monitoring the dallas thing in the dark about this for months, that is dead I was thing, goes sideways at all. Is there going to be a mavs, lakers and kyrie going to go into the lakers? I don't think they would do. This actually move, because I dont think that really outstanding, especially their problems, are bad, Events have shared therein on whatever the crews us sweepstakes ever happens. I'm sure they're all in and that if they could pull it off, but we'll see, thirteen looks like it seems like the trades can start in mid december, and this does not feel like a finnish. Austria number thirty new orleans, live, getting setback in desire, but I feel like it's happening and he's not where he was a couple years ago, when we're going nuts and marcelo was having a stroke. Every time there is an enormous gap is quite as explosive issue a couple years ago, but he still an absolute I and look at dave line up with the about soon, as zion ingram Daniels

her jones, witches plus twenty Four point: six: when those five ass play together: dimension, hawkins, tray, murphy's, back. Our just came back needs got hurt again, but this is a really really talented example malleable team that has multiple guys who can score. In any quarter, even when their best scores are out, still feels like they can get off ass. I remain macao by this that they have they ve ten guys county needs. And just scoring at all points of the game. There's never gonna be a six men stretch. Were there not getting a good shot from somebody? the really hard to match up with with the size, and then you look at the pit sad about other offers dead, the lakers first is there a choice and twenty four twenty five they can swap picks it marking we've, foreign, twenty six dead, the box pack and twenty seven

They have a lot to make moves with, and yet I dont know what the movers cause I kind of like the team. You don't portion Emma column, just yet again he's probably gonna vienna in trader but only of our trade him I'd like what they have. I want to see more of it. I want to see another fifteen game sample size, next categories the possible in season bumpers? We got three team Twelve indiana eleven Sacramento number ten necks of whom are play in the plan tournament in the quarter, find us it's next week. an in situations where they could put together a couple wines and get to the fund? ass or even when the whole thing. This is one of the reasons data about this in season tournament. There were hoping that it would be a thing of the past, care about hundred censure They were hoping that for the coaches, infer for the teams, it would be a nice or a litmus test for where you stand at a certain point. The season, I think

three of these themes, all three these things could actually when one to give me not three games the knicks, I like the next say I think they're really hard to play. Brunson has so much confidence that they got rainbow back. They have They get batch their bank. Second, they can be down aid in their beds. can command and star flying around and make it Yes, and I just think they're their payment walks in the end season. I think they're going to beat the bucks recently now. I think they're going to the box, then in game but all three these themes, I think the in season is gonna, be a nice little fork in the road for them. Indiana had a tough ass tonight, but often simply there just a neighbour the pace, player and if you just like a better one game, play ass, really hard think for sacramento, if it's red magic for them and foxes finer around. So I think all three, those things are worth watch and next week from it picture standpoint wireless brunson quickly, president fortytwo tonight

the next item, eight known as listen to him, so there's a chance that the very good back in that they're, just the tea That's gonna beat up all the other bad things become up just short against a really good things: is for they had not been. The case is how good brentwood spend this year and the three point of shooting with them without boys. That, I think, is forty seven forty, eight percent for the seas. Now she move this distance back. Like he's making twenty five voters he's a twenty five points, a game guy, He's in absolute bitch to match up with these different themes and You know not. Allies is a massive massive best of luck Sport, dallas and if LUCA areas of leaving there'll be probably the first thing that gets mention, but if you thought best guards and leave right now- and you have heard him Berger asked yea as your first three and I think that set in stone.

And then how a burn, whether he's on the tour with those guys as the fourth guy he's right under did as the fourth guy I think, he's forth, and I think Foxen edwards read there. An ominous, say, Jamal Murray, just because Us, title last year how he plays with yogurt. How is seen him come through a big games. I would have him next and then I think you can make the case for brunson in this eighth spot. Four maxie and john moran would have as many comes back Donovan mitchell, who I know, has the stats But over and over again it just doesn't seem like he's, making anybody better, and elevating anything- and we now have a pretty big samples as this not really it out. I'm just pointing out present seems to have a better impact on his team game or just a defensive, zero we have been talking about this for two years and then the mellow would be the only other, but I didn't you can make it.

His presence in the top aid now regard switches and insane climb, frown, anna and just in incredibly impressive forthwith, a guy, say, look at where the next hour they have other. First, they have, some protected pigs from down to trade and washed. The sheer there were protected pick from walking twenty five days moves to make in this another team on that really totally show with movies like big it. Definitely the mitchell rabbits and spot, but his numbers are pretty good for them. So my guess is there I began improves alarm, see how far they can go susan, but if they winning in season tournament, obviously to see if they get a little more frisky around the chamber that next group stay or no magic by themselves in the. young and hungry assassins group. There are thirteen five, a third in defence of rating ever plus six point two net rating

which after eighteen games, is just insane. It's too moves its coming over france, when the words did that in the twin, one draft or london enough control over read. They had to hope that you now go and states through the pick up. And it seems, are going, states could pick up so they end up with france. The land that I'm gonna take the next year and is this three had an argument? We had four months pal oversees jefferson. Dubai I actually was jabbar a guy in may long term. I don't if that's dead, yet the czech peace would have been You be interesting for the same, even though he missed our last year pudding here, one this instead of power, but you can argue without how out- and they are these two guys that have proven it

again way together as the foundation of a team that acts as a defence identity, which is you just would not against a year ago. Maya. it's your best, but there hey idiot, I dunno more times I get. I have to tell you guys international best buy matters, france, in palo playing in the world championships over the summer, help of those guys it always ups and there should be lowered. Speaking today, lower next group, the veterans I'm walking number eight there, thirteen insects heading into tonight there twenty first in advance rating and their net rating was put two point: nine, that's gotta, be worse, it there's theirs red flags all over the place with the defense, and I don't really totally know how they fixed it. They can still protect the rim, like you say, you're, honest with the big black and regulations tonight, but the perimeter stuff I dunno how to fix it. family than trade. You know as I go,

Well, they could use Alex caruso. Well, how are they going to get him man? It's going to take two first to get out of crew, so they don't have any furs that's the way it seems, their secret powered almost say it's a little like the eagles this year, where the This can be losing a game and that some have put together a couple touched on lay offs in their winning or had already eagles. When in this work a few those, including its cargo night, where they can be downfall. if they can do that? Seven, with three minutes left and and all of a sudden daimler had a three. They must set up somebody else and they can claw their way back, but this team. This is not the team, I'm afraid of in the east, as self expand I'll just to say that, from a welcome standpoint, really grant even scenarios the balls they're up three. There is less than five seconds left the boy

I take way too long to get into whatever shot, they're gonna do and and the the bucks don't foul and crew sons of getting a three red at the end of the game. There's there's some new coach stuff with griffin that it takes awhile and especially when you go from a guy when the files to to britain in some of this stuff there doing which a lot of people written about? I just did not the team, I fear in the east, the team, I fear in Houston, miami who have a number seven man is only eleven and eight but they've they've been missing some guys and have had some injuries, also their first, out of their first something games twelve or on the road, but you know you cited arrogance, indiana there. This is the deepest my the team. I think we ve had during the boiler room and is really an exercise in incredible team both because they lead stories, because he's gonna about to make too much my therapist,

duncan robinson, who they already had. They somehow lit a fire under him. They just poured heat culture down his throat and then because they drafted he was twenty. Second, in the moment they drafted em, all college guys by life who, work for the ring around like that. Somebody about- oh my god I was hoping mine, you wanna get. Him is perfect for them and not as a perfect for them. I love him. I hate the heat now, I'm in this, where position where the he'd have multiple guys that I really like, including I guess, and and it's it's is nothing thing worse than monitoring you don't like has guys you like south I figured out of figure out a way to turn on, but she is, just so in my will everything he does it just things I like he's, always in the red spots, his additive, our times is asleep he defender, he's a clutched shooter, a great demeanor, too seems, like estimates, I'm just a great big, so they left. and go hoping that land

I could handle the extra minutes you shooting like forty five percent from through this year, so he's in a country dear, but our it took a fire Josh richardson deadlines. When using the sufis in any, about us round the league little bit but comes back, it. Twenty gets blocking this week. It seems like their rejuvenated him as at least a rotation guy. Still have ours expiring in hero. They wanna do some sort of trade. The teams get and their bother, there were two of the best twenty guys in a league bam. Like you said it, for just a classic bad luck. could be an alibi, but on that can be it I'd, be a bad guy because I'm in the same Certainly, I guess your courage, and indeed and propaganda of his knowledge, was as I as a frog whereby forget. How did you no he's, not knowledge was a wee bit. Serbia has a chance to be at least be thirteen, but he's more impact for that being a third tomorrow, bigger ah last,

this category from his phoenix a number six just cause: workers buying- and I know I know we took our sights- that back. It was his ankle ass they had but booker as fat. We wrote about the on the wringer. The fact that he has figured out how to play pointer is just an incredible may go for this. yes, and so that women to read the workers have been a little better than we thought nerd she's gonna get hurt at some point and how they handle up known it's for a month or two months. However long it is bad for the most part. This thing is. A scary is advertised at those together in the forty other than deal. I do know what they're gonna get from him tat tree it might be a bust, I'm not even sure it matters, but but they have to be taken seriously, and I think the one thing that has surprised me about the west is, I would add, golden state in my head.

And stay was above phoenix because there were a little more reliable with the infrastructure and in a dream I took a step backward, took a step back and dinner, I forgot what they thought there getting from. Commissioner crystals are required and it just seems like phoenix. Gonna grab that spot tat. Five, the sleep Oklahoma city. I've talked about them too many times, but their twelve and six now are they to make a trade have other first, they have something like eighteen. First round, pakistan rate clipper pigs They have a really good, houston pack and twenty six like what are they get it they need one more big guy who's gonna be Are there any our dress up early in again and they're gonna? Take this chance seriously because they have shales the issue is one of the ten disguise the weak hungry, It's probably going to win rookie of the year unless Hawke has continued to combine the free trade and what are they going to do?. they just come back now. It's cool we're just happy to have a forty. Nine went in

You guys have a chance like this is a conference right now it'd minnesota after denver, as the second best bet. Two big finals, ok see do something. For now with the stuff. You should know this from the terrain: whispered, cardinal back era, never assume your windows gonna last for ten years, I think contained number four philadelphia. not a lot to say about them. Other than that you know they lose heart in maxie, comes right in immediately becomes a top thirty guy for them, and I- and indeed this is my favorite and beat season yet I love the way he's playing on both ends the movement. They have the size that guy from Covington and the tomb and it's an absolute contender and yet I'm still afraid of my a bit more minnesota number three. We talked about them about, in the past. The size is gonna, be there as superpower, and then I have for the favorites

I boston in one b and denver one day and I said, Then, where I know more has been out. I know they're thirteen insects like the last couple games, but I just thank god, the yoke each piece of it. You know that we thought the term the anti than bad said about our brands. Gabriela set out the distance to neo goods and the next best We was the biggest distance we ve had since the brine into. Doesn't thirteen when I was little brown and then a job after basically, doran carmelo, definitely the case of the others. He is, I think, the best efforts of prayer. of my lifetime at least so far and encourages the road goes however, for me, I'm not I'm not wavering, I'm not changing. I don't really. Care would see their in the playoffs number in Boston.

we're too. You know pausing has made, it said, thanksgiving weak, and then I can say this. This is, can be fear it's gonna, be pausing. Essence can be our for one of those guys go. like an april. Imagine that's gonna have decided. This thing and we had no answer for that I get timber wanting a biased in two minutes after three and fifty four and I think that they can answers for the most part in some order, the the swing and if you do a power pause how high you have my aiming whether we had them over mukoki, because any most people have mikey over miami. Maybe it's embarrassing. The irony of that when they try to trade for game all summer and they're, probably better spot but interesting, but I had my enemy as the third bessys team and the number team, I'm afraid of so

that's it for the power, possibly the atom, sober spot. You remember that I and every pound I, with an atom sober thumbs up returns down last time. You thumbs down huge sums up this time. Because the incident term, it was a huge success. He got people talk about basketball, in november and early december about the quality of play us anymore. games us wondering what was gonna happen and not just talking about load management and trades and being upset with guys. This is a huge when next week is gonna. Be fine. aztec intervention to see how much headline stuff it can steal from Vienna fell especially guarantee. They had to head on thursday and then said but I dont think this could avoid any better than an eight plus plus a coup see you Adam sober, at the end of november and be a powerful romantic break and come back with sweden, Ruiz.

I wanted to be Feds are working at the ringer is that we have a wide swath of sports fans. We steve, sorority orlando magic phantom interests, all kinds of types and and fence wouldn't experts? act and one of them is deeper is carolina. Panthers fan, I was thinking this week. This might be the bridge is a vast situation we ve seen in a while, because they are the worst him the whig in it. They don't have their first round pick, which really really unusual for the nfl lives in an mba. But I can't member and I found situation where it is. His bottomed out and had no reward, usually try they'll get better as easier to have something to play for care I know they fire there coach this frank reg, and yet I still I see a lot of wins and the schedule so is this year fan, as is the weakest, its rock bottom. For me, as a panther, spain- and I said

as someone who is sat through a fifteen game losing shriek and someone who is sat through jimmy cloth in sixteen games. This out. There's no, hope- and I think it is the owner thing- the dark cloud of the bad owner, because as a sports fan, there's no way you can fire him, there's no way we can move on from them. You can trade him. I grew up in the washington area, grew up when Daniel Snyder was taken over the team. I know what this looks like I've lived through it and I'm not looking forward to the next couple of decades. However long this last what's weird about him, as he had so much success in the other part of his life as a hedge fund guy, and I think, when you bought the team that consensus seemed to be. This is a really smart guy. This is going to be interesting to see how it goes, and then you look back at what he did. You know he went and he at my rule, who was one of the biggest coaching kay, it s so we ve had the last couple years. Everybody was down with that that road and do well, but he kind of jump.

The gun and getting rid of him last year. Now that team kind of rally back where were they six and six was the worse and then just all hell broke loose. Last time starting with that brace young trade. I can't remember where you stand on what they gave up in that trade when it and because they didn't know who they are taken when they did that, I thought it was a good trade in a vacuum just because the family had been beaten down so much if we had not thing to latch onto right. No reason: a watch, panthers games. The last thing I had to watch for was person mccaffrey make. I hated him and whenever you're trading your best players, I think that's the the worst sign for a team. It's never a good sign when you're when you trade, your best players, but once I found out bright young. I was totally out on it for very obvious reasons, he's a historic outlier and I just didn't see the option

with them. I didn't see the kyler murray arm strength for three speed upside with them. He was just out a regular guy who was who, like just came up big in big spots. I got, I think, that's a commendable. I just don't think you can make an nfl career out of it, so if they would have taken anthony richardson if they would have taken CJ stroud, I would be much happier panthers fan right now and I would have been better in April, but I gotta saw this coming year without spend the other gather. Wrinkled too. This is seek echoes the houston. This is a real argument, brace versus see j with richardson kind of over here, as the as the stealth contender then see J crushes it in here than in many areas. First kind of semi bag, my sweet, but for the most part, if you'd pickin franchise, kubi go for the next ten years. I dont know, if he's one of the first four but he's deftly, and that next five six, seventy somewhere in there you. So that makes it

worse and other how the panther fans thou with the sea J, verses, bryce peace, this just just coping their way through it, just blaming free right. Blame me. Everybody, but the fact that, like this was the table. That's the thing that they there's a lot of talk public, it's too early can call it like this quickly like stop trying to jump the gun, but he's a small prospect than we have The worries about the worry about him was that the game was going to be too overwhelming for him, like the size being in that pocket. An nfl pocket was going to be too overwhelming for him and that he didn't have that, like next level, athleticism to kind of work around that, like we saw with kyler so like if it was going to fail, it was going to look like exactly how it looked like. That's why I am yet more so ready to call it already. I'm ready to move on and wipe my hands of in draft the next guy and like out. Well you're you're. At that point already federal, games, that's an I was at that

what would Jimmy clawson and that was the right move. They were at that point and that was the right move. They saved the franchise with it yet, but it looks bad in all the ways that you thought it might look bad and I, like I, don't know how to fix it. Like here's, my problem like with even with the quarterbacks like justin fields, who's, not an established quarterback at all, but you could see something in his game can build orphans around like he's very athletic ass, a big arm you can. Like a read option, offense to do all that play action with bryce. What is it he doesn't? Have a big arm he's small, so you can't really put him under center and do the play action stuff. You can't run the read option stuff cause he's going to die. He doesn't have a big arm that you can't do like the deep ball stuff like how do you build an offense around a guy who's? Just essentially like a point guard right. Well, it's what talent is talent and they don't have alright, so counter cause I still like brace And- and I I am not one to call him jimmy costs, and yet I look at who are the weapons right you have adam

when it is made thirties and just a bunch of united It's the only wide receiver cast, that's probably as bad as the pagers receivers sea. Of that, though, the running back situation They pay mile sanders who stunk had harboured on the roster ready, whose belated they become the best friend baby. Here too, had him, you don't have an offensive line and then the frank reg situation which I felt like a voice crying in the wilderness in august sky house, and I had a huge fight about it on taxes on their bring. Your game would show he said, frank rag. He's too, he might be the best coach in that division and we were like arguing, but has there been buddies for thirty five years, unlike what's the evidence gregson good coach is made one plan game like four years ago, every year they had a different quarterback with the colts team got worse. They lost jeffson They came in one the next game. That's a bad frank gregg was. Why do we think you gonna be good on the panthers he has made

History, nobody since nineteen seventy eight has been fired after eleven games and if you watched it it it the I test, matched it like the team was. Completely disconnected tabulated, they couldn't black, they didn't seem have any sort of cohesive game plan he pulled. The officer coordinators spots abilities. He gave it to him, then pulled back and it just seemed like it is that so I'm just looking from the brain standpoint work. Well, went well now. One thing went well, which makes me now want to read mafia. I disagree I'd, I do Think one thing went well and that was the game against seattle, when bryce young didn't play in eighty dont played in through for like three hundred yards in touch. That's, like you just explained it. it was a historic disaster with rice in there, but with Andy dull eighty doll, like whose thirty eight years, The news never been like some elite quarterback with him in there. It didn't look like a great and if, but it, like a bible average, and if a long ere it is out of bigger than brigade again, if you can

be better than eighty dont near rookie year like this. Isn't it's not like ninety ninety five anymore? Where give these guys a shot like you have to be the guy right away, and he hasn't been that guy. well, I look at the the trade itself. You wouldn't the worst trade of of the twenty first century. Anything like tat, but there's a chance. It's gonna get mentioned the rate where they really bad. When you saint century right, why look tat? I kind of forgotten? Remember that DJ. Moore was in it and even with DJ moore being in it at the time, and we were gonna, that's not good. That's that's a receiver for bryce down the throat passes too, but they also give up the ninth pack, which turned out to be jalen carter. Who's been awesome. They gave up the sixty first pick they had, Twenty twenty four! First, that as you making the trader like well as well Guess we're not one of the worst five teams. This will be worth it while you're going to be the worst team and you're twenty twenty five. Second now, if he had done it for cj stroud, that's still a good deal you,

a hundred times out of a hundred, but somehow you also took the wrong quarterback, so the totality of total transaction, I actually think, has a chance to be mentioned. Historically, that's what makes it worse is like the pics that were used have hit like the jailing carter who's. Basically liked aaron Donald, almost in his rookie year, like compare that to the rg three trade, the the rams and washington, like the rams, didn't really hit on any those picture. We don't talk about the trade anymore if anything like. Yet why should you probably got more out of that just by because of that one season with thirty three yet this one. You don't have that you don't have that covers like every picket. The guy you passed on is the next great quarterback jailing carter and then you, on top of that you're missing out on, like a very high draft class when it comes to quarterback yet mean even if they're just brought steve works back on a two year, deal kept the ninth back drafted jailing carter,

brought darnel back for one more year, just as the stop gap and brought down to form a back and just said very to run a back where sixty six than last year, it's been really interesting. Reading all the temper stuff this week, I thought his press conference was bizarre and I dont know if this works when you're full boner, where just every year you Jay you just treat it like some business that sought work and you blow it up. You can't really do that with fans. You can't do that when draft choices are involved, and now they don't have a pick it all on you. I asked you before came on what was their bleaker? One any mention the houston situate with the sean, was pretty bad, the browns and the mid two thousand. turns after hasn't took over when they just kept change in there. Office in their coach? I think that a new code,

three years in row that was pretty brutal but that the the over the top piece of the cj stroud with the no first round pick at the. I think this might be the bleakest for me, yeah like when, when you start listing like the features of a bad owner, I think David temperate checks, our father boxes. You like the way my love of bad owners, and I think what makes him worse than the houston thing, and even the hasn't thing is like Mcnair was a bad owner kind of hasn't deftly was about owner, or is it bad owner yeah, but they weren't like out and public as much at least for my perception, and I feel it maybe just because I'm a panther span that I see more, but I feel like that. It's not enough to win for David temper. I think David temper needs the credit for winning and he needs to do it in a different way than I think. That's why so much

You read about him when he first took over. The team was like that annelida ex, that the plot stuff, the econ, stop and like he's, gonna use analytics and then even before that the draft one of the big reasons why they apparently drafted rice rung with the us to test. That's, apparently, he killed it s to test yet and that kind of like goes along with all of their quarterback at acquisition. So far, especially in the draft with a draft will greer who was of Pierre fat guy like be if I've had him as a first round prospect. No one else did he felt for him, because put up the stats- could use a twenty five year old in the big twelve mackerel. Another e F, F guy, another analytics back. I they traded assets for mackerel right, they traded evaluated out. That bats are above the other genitally anything they thought he was kubi one for them so light they had him at the top of the list MR even trust him to run arpeggios on third, that nothing else, but obviously didn't trust me. I can do it like that's a red flag and I think you just ignore that. Try to outsmart alot of people- and it's not so much that

thinks. He has all the answers. I think the problem is that he thinks there is an answer and I, throughout the history of nfl. I think the lesson that we always learn. His luck plays a big part of it and, like just been at the right place at the right time, in making the right higher like the steelers, where he came from. That was another thing. It wasn't just stuck his background. It was, he was a part of the steelers organisation. They do things the right way, things the right way for fifty years I mean also they kind of got lucky and rapid thirteen hollow famers in one draft in the seventies red, yeah. Then they got lucky. They heard bill cover. They had three coating higher since the moonlighting David ever has six different had coaches, including interim coaches, since he bought the team and twenty nine So, if he's doing the steelers model, you do in a terrible job of it. Even if you look at the brass thing too wait up and not know who you're gonna taking yet is just the absolutely bizarre I'll. Never any set time that situation happens, just not can understand that. But then it also seems in

The report, even during the season right, was there that there wasn't a consensus on who to take an rake, some ahead here that one press conference in it like he was trying to signal us, like I told them that takes a J stroud. They wanted this bright young guy, and maybe that was over, why he had to go very strange staff. Are its aware, brace on your iq, be rent. Things is well his he's ahead. I ve grown yeah. He's at number thirty yet, and the head is zach inject bridge, browning in well shots fired eight in all at number. Thirty five actually think he's like semi competent, Devito and then TIM boyle, thirty seven I see that many years have you done this cube iraqis versus the third year of the second year is a second you have done it for you have done it like but he's around area has it as the bottom I've ever been more grim than zack Wilson, jake browning aid and o connell timely to veto tim boil you max,

in there. Tim boil is the worst play. I bring sober timber, yet I have no idea. Why is on an nfl to I? I must season ticket holder for the dc defenders in the exoskeleton. He would be their third string, quarterback I dont, understand what they're doing with this rogers thing. Either, where its I got activated em, like I said this caboosa, I dont think as I think there's zero percent chance. He plays this year, but on top of it I think they're, like second or third less than the f c. They basically have to win their next game date. Do or die now every week just to try to stay alive for the playoffs and TIM boyle is an absolute catastrophe as a quarterback back and in general, their officers scoring ten points again. What's weird You can run the ball in them to it's, not like their defences, like incredible they're, just terrible I don't even know what is the point of rogers pretending gonna come back. I think it's just so. We could say that

he would have been able to come back if you did like you realistically their eliminated and play These are the one percent chance in their next couple of games are like against. The dolphins gets to the team that their deafening at least do so. I think rodgers knows that he's not going to have it they're not going to have a chance when he is able to hit the field and he's just going to be like I would have been able to do it but rep, but that they're playing the falcons this week so see your mac jones. Twenty five, Matt Jones, is the worst quarterbacks. We had a thirty two years in new england. Any has no confidence at all, and it's gotten to the point that I actually think he's unplayable. So why is it he lower than twenty five? Because I dont have liked the psyche. Greed factoring in. I think like that it's a good quarterback in there. We saw it the first year and saw glimpses of it last year. At times. I I agree with you. I think he's broken he's, making mistakes that he wasn't making at alabama.

Not I welcome. I was never high on mac jones, like even before the draft. I didn't see the upside. I thought like europe's. I was her cousins at best and even during his rookie season, I was like this. This is about what I expected, but he was way better than this, like the interceptions, the ones where, like he's throwing it, I think it was last week when the the defensive linemen popped out and he threw it right to them he's supposed to be the processing accuracy, guy and he's lost. Even that have any of that. So I do think it's a lost cause, but there's still talent in there and, unlike based on the the metrics, are the

criteria that I'm using, I still think he's he's probably one of the thirty best quarterbacks in the league right now. But that says more about the bottom of the league that I think it saying about him. Yeah see you're saying that if he can somehow be fixed, his upside is in the top. Thirty get him with MIKE mcdaniel, like tua was, I think, tool was broken in a similar way under Bryan for us yeah, when the mac, how to play last week where he was getting pressured from behind a name. They ran a replay in. I had a close up of his face and I could see it, I'm a giant tv and there was, guy behind him, but the guy wasn't touching them, but max face was completely panicked and it looked like he was about to get pushed off. Cliff and he was just like the look on his face. I was like this is done. This is right arap because nobody's touching him and he so terrified him they get had. He just wants to get rid of it. This is the sport and the only position worse.

But he can lose their confidence in a way that year actually watching them break in real time, because I felt like this happen, a marked sanchez to mar cinches beat the patriots the road and a playoff game lucky he would. Whether weather you thought about his talent, like he did have a lot of for instance some swagger and could make a couple big throws a matter. There is in that case that he was a little. We live manning issue and then his conference broke and within for years, he was out of the league, and I do think this happens. I think I better comparison is targeted whence there are twenty. Seventeen look like the next big thing, like they're called on pay manning pre, snap, Aaron, rodgers posts, nab heaves, envy peak in the second year the leading candidates, and now like I does. He know how to play football. They give. It seems like he forgot how to play, for

well. I think I think you're right and I think, with mac, it's almost a detriment to him that he is like this brainy quarterback, because I think he knows like how fucked the situation is not like. I can sense that stuff like you're saying like he knows. Oh the guys right behind me, isn't isn't he and I I think that just plays on his plays on his his mind, These issues even more, I don't know it's it's really rough. I don't know, I don't think it. It happens in new england, but I could see him like getting. rehabilitated in a shanahan orphans. He can do at parties doing like not like the creation somebody could do like the in my link is dropped. Herself son, I think you're too example, is good words. I just gave him two seconds only to get rid of the bar and to know I'm gonna go here. My first thing his processing in one in twenty one was get the key ya. Think of his again. we talked about. It was silent on sunday, but they beat tennessee. She was the one said in like we, twelve or thirteen In two thousand twenty one- and he was awesome- he threw for like three hundred plus

cards and just really looked like a potential opera at some point, so it lurk in there somewhere, but we have also seen so many guys just get broken by the position. You it happens when their older- I guess that's the only to say, give mac She had somewhere else This situation certainly can about work where's going through your rankings Jordan love up to twenty one, and I think, if you're talking about fast risers over the last couple of weeks, I've been really impressed. I was kind of completely out on him. For waste gouges just insane. It was gonna happen and now it feel like not only are the throws there in their figure I use and better than that, Sievers are healthy again, but his charisma came back in his charisma. Candid disappear, in october. But now I feel like it's it's back cities, him ever getting higher than twenty one. Oh yeah. Definitely

yes, toga and potential. Honestly, I wrote about him before the seas and I went to green based training camp. In my tie to interviewed him, I interviewed suppliers. I interviewed the offensive coordinator. They said a big moment for them was last year when he came in on that sunday night game against the eagles, and this speaks to what you're talking about with the charisma, where it wasn't like a rookie like he was he's, not a rookie but like a first time, a guy that's playing for really, the first time going into a half hour environment on the road in philadelphia, sunday night football, and he will many were stolen like no look passes in like whole shots in like it's that when I like, I watched that film before I watch that film during the off season. I was like low on jordan love just like everyone else's, because we we hadn't seen him play, and I saw that I was a hold up. There's something here to them

and then I went and interviewed a lot of actors and that locker room loves it. Man yeah that locker room loves him. They will do anything for him, so he he checks that box. He checks the confidence box. He obviously has the talent, I think with him. It's just filling in those gaps and I think that the problem is you're going to have those moments like you, seventy you're going to have depths, it's not linear with him and obviously not being able to start your first. Three years delayed that development, for, I think, that's even rougher tickets, another and that there is said the latter. I love them so you have. my homes, one hour to use not gonna, quit justin and herbert he's three disk. You don't have crunch diamond in rankings Just I had the ball last and my team lost again. Is that a record for you or I'm, assuming you saw the packers game when he puts it right on the guy and he drops it. He scores his problem is he has to do two game winning drive? She has to do the first game when he

I would three minutes and then, when Daly's defense gives up the lead, he has to do the one with one minute and that's what he that's the one he can't do. I love it. The herbert fans of the best Lamar four borough, five lawrence six and then dak prescott, seven, and hurts. Eight now hurts being eight. When he's probably gonna win, the envy was the one that jumped out by I have them on all my fantasy teams and I've watched a shitload, eagles and first of all, he's definitely heard they finally admitted at last week, they're like oh yeah. He has a bad knee last, iteration that a guide and weak six weeks, six its we twelve you're telling us now so he's been pretty careful. But I think that that tush push thing weapon is still the best weapon at anything other than whatever the hell. Am I regularly in the game. I do because I watch others. Try to do it and in they're the only team that can do it, because a how strong is when you watch the other

Do the Tisch bush half the time, it's a catastrophe and with him it's like every time it just goes forward. I agree with that, but I think I've seen other teams that have come he's from that. Quotas are like the cardinals, the alleging that was bed. When I wrote about the toothbrush last month, the only thing that was better statistically then the eagles, where the cardinals who had just stops and josh not is not jailing hurts so I think they're. So either there's like they're, so many elements that go into inside you can't discount kelsey. You can't discount the line yet another element that I think other teens haven't really picked up on and why the eagles are so good at. It is because they dont huddle before they do the switchboard said the defence can't such, Two other teams for some reason they huddle. So I can do you can anticipate in you can adjust and you could put in a different line up the eagles. Don't let you do that, so I think it's it's not only hurt, I do think hurts. I think some of them are hurts, but I think both of them are the office of lying just the situation,

but I do think it's more replaceable then will you realize I don't know? Maybe I'm not giving them enough credit, but I don't think it's not evident it. He hasn't impress me as a password like when you watch him as a passer. I honestly think he's worst here, then he was lasher. Maybe it's the injury but, like you said it wasn't on the report, and I can account for that in the rankings. If we didn't know about it, yeas turned in a kind of heat checking with the passing know. They'll just be impotent for an hour and then all of a sudden, though heat up again, and you can kind of see what he's getting into a rhythm, though the biggest disagreement I had with this was no a number twelve, because I I just don't think he's very good this year and I don't think that teams hamburger doubt they ve lost walker. You can't run the ball anymore. I dont really love their offensive. Wine back ass been disappointing. This year you can be excuses. But he just me does not look like the same guy that it was last year. I do that's fair. I think he definitely has regressed over the last month and I think it's in the same way that china regressed last year when the opposite line,

broke down and that's when he saw the mistakes happen? I think it's more statement about like what's behind them We're back rankings like there was a clear divide in the grades before she not really started to elevate himself of the last month. It was like jericho. with the line in there, is about five point drop in the grades to the next thing, and I just don't think there's any one. That's that's leap frog him. Yet I think that's what it is more so than him like maintaining the spot, his greatest actually dipped, but One has leapfrogged him. I would have had a. I can't believe I'm saying this: I probably would have had Wilson a little bit higher. You had him sixteen, you could even talk minutes, flipping him and geno Wilson at the point now to know how I got there, but he knows Where can and can't do he's got the old dad playing golf hitting the drive into the woods that his back onto the farewell. He has two of those throws. A game he's got it nice sense of it seems like he's about to strip sack, but he doesn't anymore. I just I like how the end it seems like his

actually kind of like some unlike last year, when they despise them. So I just like- I always buy it now. I do think he's. He has more self awareness. I do think that That's the difference between this year and last year, and you can kind of seed over the last couple of years in seattle when he was like, I want a different offense. I want to play light like a jew, breeze Tom Brady, like that's, not you you're, never gonna play like that. That's not your style! Yet I think what you got to denver he was. Finally, able to do his own thing and we saw the results and I think it it kind of humbled them in a way and sean payton. I think it's just the perfect coach, because he's proven even at the end of like drew brees his career, we saw him like coach up. He bridgewater in when games. We saw coca tatum helped. Toby Eric quarterback it when games and he's

and once again with a totally different quarterback. So I I give peyton more of the credit, but I do think Russell Wilson has adjusted I just not as impressed by those adjustments as you are yeah. I panthers rest of the way at tampa this week at the saints' home atlanta home green bay at jacksonville home Tampa. I need them to win one more game to have the pats at least have a chance at the once at the one picker, and it feels like the boxes. You know there's new coach theory and play and they have nothing no reason to tank right. There's a new poaching staff and play is trying to impress tapir it feels like you get one more. I just add a I guess it would have to be one of the Tampa games right. I think so, but I also believe that, like a whore will match up like going against todd bowls defence, where he's gonna blitz the shit out of time, and it has

a bully, you lay so maybe rise. Maybe it's like, though their cards he's just adds word for you, the saints or falcons. I think it's those two games in the another element, you're missing in the bus games, the baker mayfield revenge element which home go either way. Either you get a baby, meltdown already just goes off like foreign regards it, as did you know, he was eligible Ruiz you can read is actually be rankings every week in the ringer dot com, as was his other features, and listen to me if they'll show with Nora and what is it sunday and wednesday yep yeah, alright good to see you thanks for having me so early, the senate policies would fain to America's number and sports, but right now new customers get one hundred fifty hours bonus bets when you first five dollar money line bet wins at the end of this package of milk our pics I'm share. All my favorite weak thirteen. That's and as always, gonna put up the same game parlay on sunday

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we immediately go to the buffalo game, which then goes in overtime, and your defence gives up I hundred plus yards in your on the field for like almost a hundred plays nag at san francisco this week, and then looming is doubtless. I can't remember. another run like their stump up laws that one of the best themes the way, but they still have josh regarding its all these elite, offenses and teams. You might have to see again in january and february and what kind of shape is your team in like this is a brutal spot? Yea was when the schedule first came out, everyone. so I can. I did upon him we're like. Oh, my gosh that stretches I got my these are all superbowl contenders and then going in what everyone's asking me. You know what what do you think like three and three four and two, and I I think I said yeah three three four in two years probably in good shape, to still be competing for the once it s like

every week on my car, and I think this is the week they probably lose like last week against buffalo, I'm like come on. That's a tough spot, you're coming off a win against the chiefs. You've got the niners next week. This is going to be the let down I'm feeling great at halftime, I'm like nailed this, you know there's and then they come back and they win again. So it's just been such a hard team to figure out. It's been forced games they been losing at half time. They ve been out gained by like ninety or a hundred yards in every one of these games and guess what they are. The only one to loss in vienna fell. So it has been a strange season, perfect regal stance bill because they could still like rip the team amongst themselves as as they want, but then anyone else does and they're like. What are you talking about yeah we got one last thought: it's really the ideal eagle season for eagles fans. Yeah, you have your ten in one. You only have to wins a double figures right. The niners have seven winds by thirteen plus points,

I know I did I did. I wrote down all the stats thanks to each other and cause. I couldn't believe that the eagles, where a favour in this game, when sound, I guess lines on Sunday. I think I guessed eagles by two goes by two and a half and then It was the other way it was san francisco by one and a half. Now it's up the tuna like man that is like I took for a big game I member being there far off, and then you look at all the stats and its brutal man. Leg is San Francisco, their third and first down their offence, their fifth on third down their six than the red zone. There, eighth passing and then fillies d. You know twenty seventh on first down the thirtieth on down there. Twenty ninth in the red zone and the eye test I've watched, allow officially that as much as you, but I have all the eagles on my fantasy teams in their defence. You can move the ball in them all game ray, and they just have this neck over and over again, though, make one plan one and one plan the other end, and also we're still in the game, but this niners team looks like the worst possible time for

his. Do you feel that way going into it? It's it's a very tough match up. I mean the eagles weakness already, the middle, the feel their line, backers, weren't, good and now there to starting line backers are both danger and so, like the niners big thing, is they play like no other, often right they play with their play with two. Back, though, though, all game, where K we're gonna, keep you in your base. Defence, you ve got Have your line backers out there, like beagles, don't even have line backers to throw out there and so it can be very tough for them to cover the middle, the field. But your point about like the way they play defect is pretty interesting. Just like zooming out in the inner fell, because I feel like stats. Deeper of staff are always tough, twenty twenty three, so much of it is like what quarterbacks have you face? That's almost all that matters for, and so I kind of like the highway

its approach like their defensive coordinator, sean desire, like you will not do one thing? It's almost like you know those bangles teams always got praised where you weren't, like the bengals defences, are elite, but against, like my homes or alan, the play I should like maybe they'll cook up something because they try different things. That sort of been eagles approach so, like they had that game, it gets the chiefs. Those pretty good, I mean the cheese handed them a bunch of place, but they have them in. They played the dolphins that was pretty good at so like you're going back and then they get you know carved up by Josh Alan, so there's kind of this back and forth. I think they're, your high variants defence, but they'll, try things which I, like they'll, be aggressive. They'll call up in emotional blitz when they're like nothing else, is working descend, everybody Josh Alan. and him and gave Davis are on the same page in that game last week, so that that's gotta, how I see their defence, it's a whiff slow like I feel ga kiddo over the middle class mccaffrey delay screens and little will routes that can be a problem, like I'm sure shanahan. They wanted the pets opposition

and if you like the eagles to win fellow has philip of fish The lose the first tat same cisco wins a first step of philly wins. The game is, please eight hundred, and I was like that So what I think would happen. Philly wins, windsor game like Shanahan comes out. He's got his perfect script. There are thirteen three, they look great. After a quarter and a half and then philly does they ve done all year, or they hang around that make the play up there. they J brown for thirty nine o, my god forgot the voluntary in this game. Oh he just sat of forty ardor and then all of a sudden, it point game you're like? Are they going to do this again, the Jake elliot, like a sixty yards, feel go in your like man. I can't this is a time game. Bananas are canadian they have twice as many arts, so I think they could, if they. hang around, but I do worry, but that first have for them in the niners. Are the classic? Oh yeah, we blew, twenty forwarded, seven lee, we blow of fourteen nothing lead they do

it's over and over again where they take the leads and then they kind of let their foot off the gas pedal. So I dunno that's kind of hard see the game gone early, saint early, niners and then start doing your reared eagle shit. I can't I agree with that in I sort of thing like that theory yeah, I'm an, I think, oil and hurt, I think its eight straight games that they ve been trailing by double digit. They ve come back in one, eight straight games. I dunno, I don't know if it's a record or what I don't even know who keeps the stairs. So I saw it somewhere after last week's loss, but yeah it's incredible. They have these stretches offensively where my phone is blowing up on. Seven different threads of people bring a fire but of course they don't have a there and then, in this that can have like last week this we're touchdowns on three straight possessions, and it's like you re at that for granted like that's hard to do it's hard to just come back and yet twenty one points all of a sudden in one quarter, so yeah I mean they just. I dont want to say that I am not a fan

away guy. You know that I'm usually like I look at the diana letting the exquisite knows. The match up, like I'm, usually like of a teams, keeps finding away there, probably getting lucky and they're, not that good. But now we have two seasons worth of evidence there. Twenty four into in jail and hurt is last twenty six regularly it starts and their underdogs at home this weekend. I it's incredible, see I think beagles. When I'm with you, I don't it's a game where they come out and their blow. Out the niners. I think the niners have a lot of schematic advantages, but then you're like well, if it's a close game with four minutes who do you trust? Who do you like in that spot and I'm kind of with you, I feel, like you know, with the way the eagles had that experience they might be the team, they're, seventeenth and defense d v, o a niners are first on offense and the lane johnson thing is alarming when he doesn't play that the stats are,

add the status of a team that had in overtime game in one just what what they look like the next week against the spread. That's that's terrible. That's like in the mid forties then as an injury report there, some major deeds on there. I don't know, what's what it's gonna look like by sunday, but both Savers are heard swift, Sir George, Davis, sir, I assume all those guys are probably plan right yeah. I think most of those guys are ok. I think even lane johnson practice earlier today, so he could be back there, which is big, Fletcher Cox, the defensive tackle. That will be the big one, because you mention and people Ninety two defensive, snaps last we are now now you got these young. You know Jordan David. in jail in Carter like these guys who were rotational play, that georgia. You know that was their big thing. Hey these guys are going to play a lot of snaps like jail and carter. I think played over eighty snaps less we, Jordan Davis played over sixty snaps. We have now they're coming back and they ve got a key, this defensive efforts. If we are to meet defensively

it's not going to be a game where they're like forcing the niners to go three and out to me it's like you just have to take some chances like you might give up a sixty five yard catch and run to christian mccaffrey. But can you force a couple of turnovers because that's the big thing with birdie I mean you look at like. I was like in every statistical category with party this week and it's like one two or three against man again Zerlina you name it. The only area where I think you look at it and say, hey that has been a weakness, is just ill. Give you what to do for opportunities every game, in the services that charge yeah yeah, it's like hey you're, going to have a you dropped that pass. You might give up thirty five. If you make that play, you might win the game, and so I think when they have those opportunities, whether it's a sack fumble, whether it's in or an interception, because he he's an aggressive player. You gotta make those out those place when they present themselves. Are you a believer in the hall? Philly needs is but there are a hundred percent need it where's that There's really need it, because it's like I do want.

About thou football, sometimes where he never want to lose a game, but the eagles could lose this game right. Dallas is the one they could lose this, but as long as they beat Dallas, they're, good and they're going to be probably then, when seed anyway, whereas, like you know the niners, have think about a whole bunch of stuff. You don't wanna, be he now that they have at least a third c. Pretty much. I up, but it's not a hundred percent locked up yet, but also to send a message seagulls eagles after they lost in the past them last year. This is a revenge game, There is a lot of shit talked on both sides. It just feels like more important game for the forty nine hours, but I do know is that, like a bull shit sports been aired ever you buy it, you know what in weak eight

teen when I, when I do my picks every year. I kind of fade that narrative when you always have the team that needs the win for the playoffs, like I think, was the packers last year against the lions. I always take the opposite side and it seems to always work out. I mean I'm with you. It makes sense, but, like last week, buffalo needed that game. I mean if the bills in that game were probably talking this week about eight, don't count him out, I have a chance and the eagles that was like a meaningless out of conference game and they still won. So it can change quickly like these next two week like if they lose this game to the niners. Now, all of a sudden next week against dallas, like you're talking about you, could be the one or it could be the five seed it the division. So and then everyone saw they were frauds. They want all those close games, but now they lost too in a row. So,

I hear you. I think you're right, that minors have had this one circled on their calendar, like their players, have just give this a year the year. It's crazy idea. I've never seen anything like it. So I do see it in that respect, but I don't know something that that tends to burn me. I feel like when I, when I read that narrative too long, you think egos ten and one god s. Gatling catches, the pass, that's nine in two, check out it s, state of fifty nine yonder and shady, whether now he did and that's part of what makes egos such a great team as his eye say he might be the number one kicker right now, but also to make it there think that was going in. That seem like a lot to ask and then all said you're. Eighty three in that dead. The line makes more sense. This is I had, we had John ewing, look it up, and it's only been the third time this century that He knows tat in water or better at home was an underdog ended

one in two against the spread. So it's gotta be some. Do it big picture eagles question where where's hurts? Where's he levitating these days in the year the philly athlete kind of stratosphere. Is he like above and beat me bryce our Number one, because he's the mare fell as soon but is is heard. Second, the top three is it what's the what's? The word on hurts yeah me her herds might be number one with the way the phillies season kind. It hurts and harper where the two guys with last year, when the sixers claimed out it was like, hurts and harper the guys you can like they show up in the big spots. We trust they had vaulted. They they vaulted mp, now the six or seven a nice sooner surprising season here. So

works, but no one's going to put 'em beat over them until they do something in the playoffs. You can't go five for eighteen game, seven and half year after year of disappointments. I I think hertz is one now honestly he's the thing is he's so young? What does he twenty four twenty five like, if you zoo out, and you like. What could this career actually look like in terms of all time? Philadelphia asked It's it's still early. You know we, we know. There's injuries and stuff happened but like that ceiling is there for him and he he just sets the tone like nick sirianni after these games he's yelling at chiefs and going crazy, like zero. Yawning, has become this hated coach by every other fish, but like the team takes on, hurts is personality. You know they're, just like our. I go work, he steady, he'll figure out a way. At the end, there was this clip last week of brandon grand defensive end on like one of the final possessions he's might up and like as the balls

being snap user, you don't know jail and hurts like. I know jail inherits will win. This is yelling this to the often fact or on the other side, and so I think he's number one right now and you know him harper and then, if indeed the sixers do something the players at medium Actually it is like so love. His approval rating might be the highest of any of em, just cause he's like lovable, and the expectations aren't quite his. I obviously those other guys. like the approver end again, everyone loves back soon. Asia seems like the most beloved guy on or off the court that thing that's been watch with hurts? Is his demeanor is exactly the same at all points of the game, the matter what just happened and then sometimes it's bad. Like in their jets game where it turns out. He was hurt. The corset in tell us, but these bad that game, but there is like. Sometimes you feel like did where the I regency man, you haven't even haven't first down and our like. Why would you guys doing in there a sudden. You can kind of see him getting in these groups. It's it's weird accomplished

we cause he's? Not streaky is actually pretty consistent, but at the same time I do for you there's a streak in, as did the eagles off, adds that a kind of like as you can feel it when it's happening you're like oh here they go and now just do it. I have three straight touchstone drives in a row, but don't look like ship for an hour and a half yeah it is. It is so what it's like once they get that first one they feel unstoppable. You just know they're going to score, but then they had the stretches specifically in the first half I mean that's been the big difference this year to last year. If you look a lot of the numbers like they averaged, I think twenty eight points per game with hurts last year and this year it's twenty seven, so you're like it's, not that you know it's not really that different, but the way they get there has

very different last year. They would jump all over teams in the first half would beyond the bench in the last six men in our they're just running the ball in the last six minutes, and this year it's like neural. First half they can't do anything at some point in the second half they figured out and then they come back. Then they win these games, but yeah he you know. Sometimes the camera goes to hand and again on these texts red people like look it hurt. You no wise, and, unlike if you hadn't higher wages, looks the same every time I literally hit a fifty nine, your game winning field go, and he shaking his head cause he's mad about how the last possession So it's kind of like all the sports cliches that we get tired of he's like the guy they kind of apply to you know the next play and stay even like all that thing that athletes view and we're like alright give us a break. He actually like abides by all those so yeah, it's it's kind of tight. Direct your head around weren't sharp was tell me this week that its stead

any of that eagle stab of last year and of numbers versus the share that it's pretty similar, because it's actually deceiving last year's Hence it is way better because they were just doing in three quarters and then they will just be up by twenty and, if you just sages. Look at the first three quarters of. Esther verses issues, no contest than this year's much harder. At the same time, I just feel Major brown went up a level from last year, and sometimes they forget about homer out of their he's getting double teams, but he is the point for me now. I was villa cage man, it's thirty, six, dangerous skin, scattered tat age is going to make play. You know now, there's only three guys and the league like that he's better than anyone ever could have expected when they got on random and a level higher than there in your wildest dreams. You could have imagined right yeah, I think so I was do not going through like an all protein earlier today. Just say I have everyone rank and he was deftly. One

the same Tiree, kill and cd lamb or my three wide receivers he's just such a problem. Solver, like you said you can go to a right and then there will be these placed where each literally, double teamed and on the chalkboard unlike Wednesday, if they're going through their play with her, it's it's like no don't go, and here's a around underneath and hurts was just be like I'm gonna, throw that guys really good- and he just you know, makes a contested cash in between two players. So he solve that problem. You can just dramas and on third down a screen whatever, and he can solve those problems so yeah him demand avanti smith and, like you said they double edged brown and now seventy smith. I give to think of devonshire smith we're, unlike the chiefs this year I mean it would probably be an opera. He would have like fourteen hundred yards on the chiefs, so I think they have to keep figuring out that dynamic, making sure both guys are happy but yeah. They. They just solve everything for the eagles passing game smith, see MIKE twice a game he's just wide open by five yards, and you don't know he's the one

god there's only like six seven receivers, who just seem like they're just wide open, like what happened. Did somebody like fuck this up and said now? He just completely dusted somebody is wide open in the middle of the field or whatever, but yeah. What I do wonder what he would be like on a different team. You know what he is he's that you know what it's like the comedians comedian. He is the wider savers migrants who, out of that wider savers, are just like all my guess is teaching I d He ran. This rounded read the leverage separation and the like asia. Brown is just a physical specimen reeling. Oh my god, this guy's, a beast, divine dismiss this. The guy who's. Just like a technician there and so are you his body control. His instincts are incredible bombs. toward the niners minus two and a half because of our all the stats I'm looking at and the fact I think you over achieved the little bare and eleven and one coming off over time game. In the case of Monday night, the schedule the gone, let the whole thing, whereas the niners decisions that nice spot for

they can go and they have it circle that mythic about the game all year and it just. I just feel like it's probably the right line and I can't believe, I can't believe a tenant one team at home in back to back home games would be getting points. It seems like a miracle and at this time. I actually think that healthy niners are the best team in the league and now, time that they have a ban as when trot whims out and debo is out and they were missing, like some other major deeds, but they have nobody again, other nevada yeah. I just sit there. The best him in and this we're doing plan game rules of this get with his game and I have the forty two are slightly over the eagles. You think that's fair! You I mean, I think,

and yeah, I would say they're neck and neck, like I think it's going to be a field goal game. I picked eagles twenty four forty niners twenty that way and I'm sick of picking like I like. I picked the bill. Nick all the bills are covered in that and I keep on like why? Don't you just go with it again? There are twenty four and two with hurts. As a starter, I think fourteen on at home, like just make it easy if they lose, they lose, but yeah don't want the phillies special audience to become an after me for picking the niners and then I'm wrong, because, as we have, what other way to go there, we could just take diners. First half minus one and a half yeah. That's you know what that's not a ban and by the way you're looking at like if you, if you're, really digging deep the match up for the niners in terms of props to me is george kiddo, he is over under for receiving yards is forty seven and a half in this game. The eagles are thirty, second individually against titans and their down there to starting line backers. I I Listen, I don't wanna say it's like a lack. It's never lock. I get these wrong. All the time

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come on what it was him all along that you- and I think it's fair- I mean, if you plugged in a league average quarterback with what s rounding Patrick Mahomet right now. That would be a bottom ten orphans in my opinion, so I think you know my homes hurts the more jackson they're all in there. I think trevor lawrence and in dac are pretty good sleepers. I think the homes is going to be the guy in the next six weeks. Winds up winning it. I know that's not like a hot take or anything, but he's not the favourite right now he's plus three fifty low. I think that's it. One. Is that he, of course I had to waver. She raised some to my three fantasy teams for him to finally turn into them. I've been waiting for pray weeks, but I thought would he did last week any get kelsey going and have race over, the middle can make for five plays a game. My back and with kelsey. Now you got something now, then maybe one deep threat once again just keep defences on us, but it did feel like the makings them something for them by

I was thinking dac would be the other one and I I hate it cause all their wins. I've talked about this like they don't they don't have a goodwin yet, but if eagles lose this and then dallas beats eagles next week, and dac has a good game you could simply pay right, if there are potential one seed and he he has really good stats, and you know it's on his fault, the they the schedule they had the eagles head of fairly similar schedule like two more tough games, but in I can't blame but I bet that would be the third one I Lamar. I think the ship has sailed trevor lawrence said the ship has sailed it it's a very predictable award. It goes to the quarterback of the one or the two seed in the The conference is so yeah. You can really it down like based on what team so you're right. I think the eagles lose this week. I think dac would be next week to light up the eagles and they ve. If the cowboys like you said if they get the one or two c,

They are overtake vienna, he's going he's. Gonna have all the numbers he's gonna have all the stats. As you mentioned, he eastman piling up big stats against bad defenses, so that yeah, the dat campaign to me, really comes down to one game that game again. The eagles it's sunday night, everyone's going to be watching it if they liked the eagles up and they overtake them for first place. I think he's got it. He's got a legit shot well, you know it's a narrative, a word to you hand who who gets narratives put, harder than the dallas cowboys who who went three superboss literally thirty years ago and haven't that ending sense, and we spend more time talking about them than anybody, your team owns them. I'm sure you do it's a buy them next week I don't deserve our gas. That little jack was impressive. Ye lit not the last time they played, and it was another one of those games where the eagles came back. But yet it's been what twenty seven years since they ve gone past the

divisional round. So like it's sort of it's one of those weird arguments with an athlete where it's like once they do that, then we can, you know talk about the guy differently, but until they do that, I'm not making the leap with it with a guy or a million to r pics. I asked you to bring two picks with me: I'm going to start with this game and maybe it's winning who picks falcons jets. The line is minus one and a half on an fanned all right now for the falcons is at the jets tim boil play again he's the worst quarterback. We ve had our yards its hands down the jets court. Ten points again what's interesting is This is actually a terrible opponent for them, because you can run the bonn the jets. The jets have the thirty first defence against the russian. I test wise you too, I have just been pounding them all season. This is literally, are the falcons do They're gonna run in the bar. There sixty first downs the jets, their thirty. Second, I just

I feel like they are going to be able to run the bob result as questionable whether he plays or not so I don't have one hundred percent pre saw. I have the worst quarterback of all thirty two teams. I have a fanbase. It is just done with this season and I kind of like this falcon steam eight days. always hang around their frisky. Their defense is pretty good, like their defence. Third and red zone the share in it in a kind of backs up when you watch it. Like they have a knack for making big players again it offers a big spots wise in this line higher what's going on here. Well, that's right! So what does jj call it? The ratline always looked at the bit. This to me, looked like the ratline. I mean tim boil one and a half like what now I dont like this falcons teams What can I argue about it? An extra point taken on the ringer nfl feed every week he's pushing them and I'm like this team is not good. So how do you know you have to ask yourself? How did the falcons lose this game? I think one desmond ridder.

is like the most turnover where the you know he he has the highest turnover worthy play rate tied with mac jones in the nfl. So if you're like this, is I don't even know what the over under for this game is thirty, four below thirty for all it takes. Is you know if there's one pick, six that there's one sack fumble in the red zone, all of the Why didn't the jets are right there? So I, the falcons, just gonna, run the ball and run the ball and run the ball some more, but I don't think they're going to be able to pass the ball at all against this jets defense. I don't think they want to. I don't think they're going to try to and I think when they do it. can a lead to bad things. So I'm not gonna come on here and say narrow. Take you gotta, take tim boyle live a little. Take ten boil at home are not going to do that, but I did look at that and I said you know what I would not want to go anywhere near that game, but I could be wrong. I mean on paper it's yes, it should be easy. Falcons run the ball when, like even if its thirteen ten, they cover. That's fine. I dont trust this balkan team at all. I don't

the quarterback. I don't trust the coach, and I wouldn't want to go near it One may over a little last week where they they they can't eat one out and at that rigour who is admittedly, a little bit terrifying made a couple big. There has to be its. Moreover, what do you see coming out of this game DC tim boil leading the jets, the victory, and people being a man. They said they'd said not to believe it's him boil put his pretended. That's one sixty in the ten or is it like? Oh shit, the falcons canada handed their business, jets and now they're they're in control of the annex ii. South, and could this be like a lay bloomer run, identity type. A team I like Gee, I don't know happened in the first months of the season, but last week I thought he looked more like the algae from the law. Third, the season when he was just running through everybody and they got cora sit down again now, so they get the three backs and maybe they just pound the ball

just be like K, ridder, no turnovers place of the law that one circled they deftly. Could in terms of the narrative you know it could be, I don't think we're going to get a tim boyle. Nobody believed in me gay. I mean that would be shocking if anyone was running with that. But if the jets an hour to squeeze- it's out, then you know monday, hey they're. Still in an era back. Then we barely is ill. I know I know we neither of us want that, but I am just trying to play this one out so yeah I don't know. I mean it's hard to envision. A scenario where TIM boy now TIM boiled does anything that leads the jets to a victory are more concerned with the special teams deepened to turn over and all of a sudden. The jets are up like ten seven. You know with three minutes left in the fourth quarter, I could see something like that. Arthur smith have another way again. Somebody pointed out

albert Silas tat to me that completely changed by thinking item in, and this was the stat- how many kids you have now to what would your life be like? If you had seven kids, would you be good at your job? Now I heard that would be chassis three and a half times as many kids as you have right now. That's just what your life is. Are you ve seven kids. so a rabbit salah robert sailors, seven kids, I heard that I was like how is he even like the special teams coach, much less the nfl head coach. I don't know anyone who has seven kids as they as a fellow baldwin,

with robert solid I'm like how does he have time just shave that dome I mean it's always fright and shiny. If it seven kids, this thing would be growing out quite a bit so yeah, I don't know, he's ease figure out some way to keep it of its seven is just like dont like I can't even envision it might. If you say three, I can envision it if you re for like gimme ten minutes, maybe I pass, that is to say what is happening here. Do you know what I want is for kids. I dont know now, which is like once an hour with my friend goober. They want someone as the third. It's worth all take. Work you have what back the marriage I feel like too has become the very that the very common number four forbears April at my age, three kids, real, it feels like you're riding a motorcycle ninety miles an hour that a helmet, seven kids anyway, I may be going against seven kid roberts are alright. Ask you for two pigs: what's your first one nor the first one I am going to Houston! I liked this tech

since team minus three and a half at home against the denver bronco. So this is part a little bit of a fate on broncos and part. I really like this texans team. The first part is the way the broncos are winning I give him cried yeah well you and I talked about before the season you you know. I adopted your whole. You know, replaced the horrible coach and then bet on that team, and we would like our. I shant paint nathaniel Hackett. This gonna, be easy and then a month in we're gone awry that didn't work out will now it's now they're right in the mix these one five in a row, I dont think the way their winning is sustainable, their plus thirteen on turnovers during this five game winning streak, that's five turnovers better than any other tee. My that's great turnovers, our important there's, also a randomness to it, a look to it that I dont think they're gonna be able to keep winning that way. You know

bent of leads like Russell Wilson check down and the ball. Often in like three times a gave me makes an incredible play to coordinate sutton, but she's don't for two hundred yards once during this five game, winning streak in re or twenty twenty three, that's an unheard of for a quarter back, so I just think often civilian defensively. I think the broncos are competent, I think they're still below average. I dont think they're nearly as good as their five game. Winning streak would indicate and then, on the other side, I really like this texans team. Even last week they lose to the jaguars but sieges stroud like they weren't winning that came schematically. He would just creating and making plays, and he looked in credit well, like he's gone from, hey he's a fun rookie quarterback to now like now, I think he's like one of the best quarterbacks in the nfl. The third in passing t v, l a right now with that supporting cast with a rookie quarterback. He throws for over three hundred every week, and so I think stroud and this texans team they're, going to bounce back their secondary, has gotten healthy. I think they're making the

I asked. I don't think the broncos are making the playoffs and I I like Houston. Quite I wish it was minus three instead of three and a half, but I still like him a three and a half, you know. Sometimes you can't be afraid of that hook. You just gotta. Do it yeah So I was looking at this one as well, that denver five game winning they beat the packers by two really weird. Twenty forty nine chiefs. When whatever that I'll have your guy. Thank you at home. They say they don't want by name, had a weird via the whole game, buffalo twenty four twenty, two, a game that buffalo is just kick themselves minnesota. They went twenty one twenty and it felt like Dobbs had a chance to steal that one and then last week you know they beat denver or cleveland twenty nine twelve. That game was pretty close to D. Tr got hurt, and pga walker came in the end it was over, but I thought what was at the I've felt like cleave and had a chance to come back.

It was interesting as desperate came down. The first two series and just just bought smacked the browns defects in scored both times and now is the first time I was like wait a second. What is this? What what's happening with this team? I'm with you like? How can you keep that turn Overstreet? going. Ah, I also think Houston can throw in them, and I was really impressed with how houston fought back against jacksonville last week strat to go like he took two dumb sacks in the fourth What that I thought, really hurt them, but for them this part there in that aim and jackson, those good you know so yeah I have that one circuit is why enough. If it was going to be texans money line or texans minus three enough, we can talk but the later I'm gonna give you one. There's two teaser teams that I like this week: What is the aforementioned jaguars? Who.

our plane, mennonite against cincinnati. There. Eight now point favorites Cincinnati, forget about that. Jake browning part in that that they can throw the ball anymore and that their two biggest plays last week against the steelers were tipp balls. They went right to a bangles receiver. Forget that part their defences in good. The stats in their defence are like appalling, their thirty second nerds per play, their thirtieth first, on the twenty eighth of third down there, twenty night than rushing arts like, You know. I love, I love sweet lou, but he does- and the horses issue? They ve had some injuries to end this jaguars, often this kind of one of those bully offences like if their planner, weaker tee. they can run it up and they can look awesome. I love them. Entities. And I love my emmi against washed and maybe down the two and a half there's a little scaring us with our boy sam, how again whatever, but my aim is the offences just I've been washed and defence issues,

Bottom three in every category, their banners red zone yards per play points, you name it their bad and then you know no jail and philips, but washing can't black? My aim is second, and sacks, like banks, have a pass rush. This has blow up potential. I like get miami down the two and a half days. Are you download, both of those before we try to figure out the its aim, jacksonville down a one and a half by redundancies at you. I think that the jaguar, the last two games there offence has looked at best is looked all season. I think trevor lawrence is healthy and you mentioned it. You look at the stats, for bengals last week and you're like already threw for two hundred, and then you watch the game and it's like two deflected passes to Jamar chase like they had ten first downs total in that game. So yeah I like the jaguars quite a bit in that spot. Commanders, dolphins, the nine and a half would scare me because I just have a little worry about

if the dolphins defense, without jalen philips and their safety, Javan hall and who's like one of the best young safeties in nfl, he's been on the injury report two days this week, so I kind of feel like the commanders might be able to move the ball a little bit, but move that down to two and a half. I have a hard time seeing a scenario where the commanders, when that game see, I think, moving both of those makes sense to me. So what's the third team, I'm giving you seven points and we could mess with we're, staying away from charges pats to say no, You can move the saints all the way to plus eleven and a half against that weird. The tray theme that look like crap, you can take the steelers maybe just do a money line with the three star wars against the cards you can take. The cold saw the waiter plus five and a half you take the packers backward. two plus thirteen you'd chiefs money line. What is it? What do you like?

oh my gosh, I usually do not mess with the teaser saw now these outlook lamp our later yeah, I mean when you said, chiefs, money line that got my interest a little bit. How do you feel about that britain now yes. If you do browns rams, that's only getting you two nine and a half with the brown, so that probably doesn't make a lot of sense there. What would Let's move tuna caught your moving through his ear you're, not supposed to do that right on. What's the what's the rule out a year on moving them through zero, I think you're not supposed to do that with teachers right now, so I am actually. Favor of doing that. Some of the hard core gamblers like Rahim. This is, I think he did. He thinks it's a personal attack it is somebody threw the zero ever gets upset at this. I look at it like well, we can have the courts against tennessee getting five and have

points with will levis and I dunno what the hell this tennessee team is and the colts are averaging, like twenty five, a game tennessee is averaging sixteen so gesture on the face of it. The only that worries me about the colts as the pats defense. I completely shut them down. A couple of weeks ago, germany and I don't really know what that means here. They ve got no Jonathan taylor for this game you'll be loaded ally in action were meant. U turns the football over a little bit. What were the ones you are leading to an end and then I'll tell you which, when I like the most some struggling here well, where I was leaning the most was. This is great money lying parlay chiefs, jaguars dolphins is plus one o seven. I like that I've got all those teams. I think I do too okay. I am of a tiny bit worried about the packers

in limbo at home, get the tunnel points, but I think the I'm with you. I think the chiefs found something and I think they need the game and if the, if we lose because Is my home shits the bed and lay about. I think I'm ok with that yeah I'm in the second, the second game. You asked me to come with two games. Mice in game. It is cheap, minus six at green bay. sarah yeah. I, like em, quite a bit in this, but now I'm in on the packers I the packers, going to sneak into the play us. I think Jordan has drawn together like a month of playing good football, but like it's one thing to beat that lines: defence, which has been playing terribly for six weeks on thanksgiving and its other too, in a big spot in prime time like beat the chiefs and the cheese need this guy

like the if the cheese with this game there tied for the one see here, so they need this game, it's a big spot and like we're saying, if you look at all the nerd stats, I like to look at last week with the chiefs most efficient office of game of the entire seas, and I think they found something with which she rice had ten targets. He looked go to is kelsey was more involved in then law, better yeah they get down early and then all of a sudden there playing really well. I dont trust their backers defence. I mean they're up and down their mediocre. I think this is a game. Were patched mahometans gonna, have a big game, the chiefs off and is going to have a big game and then on the other side of the ball, that chiefs defense is so hard to prepare for, for, like younger inexperienced quarterbacks. They they had one pressure in that game against the eagles. They ran the same. Like blitz three times in the second quarter and all three resulted in sacks and that's like a veteran eagles offensive line, they couldn't figure it out. They were just taking sacks and ruining possession. So I like love, but I think this is sorry

the slow it down on the brakes, a little bit type narratives. You know this week, it's been like, hey love is coming on, and I agree with that. I think, after this game it's gonna be all right, slow down there, not quite there yet and by the way the chiefs are coming on strong, the last two weeks. I like the chiefs quite a bit in that spot. It is with the that that that thanksgiving game, it's the lions rate, couldn't gone better for the packers, unbelievable game they get for turnovers. James, I think, I'd turnover than that, but they win the day. over bad, a big time, love place great. They won by seven and then, and it felt like, Lions were coming back until the very end and the packers kind I held on, and it was a game were literally everything went right for them, and was it a barely one, but you know they squeeze. They ve got a squeak it out, like I really thought I had lions in a bunch of visas like they're gonna fuckin come back. This is gonna happen, no win this.

and so all right, so we're good with those and the pats plus five and a half, I'm not gonna, bet it, but I'm so scared of this game. I just wanna talk it out with you for five seconds yeah No bowser katy now and officially has seven injuries in nine red flags. and fantasy, and you have no idea what is capable of right. They have no other receiver lindsays out slayers questionable the church just at the chargers, re d ever want them favoured by five enough against anybody with what we ve seen from the last two years. The paths are changing. Quarterbacks. Their defence has been really good for three weeks now, where I think they are forty point stored on three weeks and they banned in all these games and even last week there five yarder it's gonna go over time, the guy mrs it it's too many points. The lines

They like chargers, two and a half. I know I just don't think that charges are good on that betting on it, but unflagging it yeah. I was the looking at because every week I look at the patriots given on like I should be able to keep a close, but then, like a out the last two seasons, one that their underdogs there. Three and thirteen against the spread. Re last use it so lightly, they ve. I always talk yourself into well. Maybe Bela check will cook something got, but their offence is just so bad and so mistake prone and can't score enough points that they dont end up do it's so I don't have a good feel on that game. I went ahead and took the charter's minus five and a half chargers. I look at it one or two ways: one is like the pressures, now in these are when you don't, they have a good game, and everyone starts tweeting out just in herbert clips, and it's like I, it doesn't really you don't mean anything. The other one is like this brain steely have a job on Monday. If they like. that is a recital b, the narrative it s really gotta lose this game, its literally rock bottom firm that

because it would be a devastating win for the patriot act. We're early like dray urban mobility, drake bay, verses calibre about its arguments. I don't want that in this game- and I learned the chargers like tat, said for stairways If you let him on the plant, hats, the wind, both halves, plus three forty square, mention that I'm staying where does it stupid? Another line that I thought was at a whack was saints lions, where the saints or puss four and a half and I'd just not improve. By the lions defence at all. I dont think they're good in the eye. they gave in the saints a team that has no check down cash barred their car. I could just see the moving the ball but down the field on these. Getting the twenties kick in some feel gauze and you know maybe put little pressure on golf and who knows but licensing way ad aware to me what you think about you, I love you know I actually

I liked the lions to bounce back, but I wasn't going to make it one of my. I didn't feel good enough about it to make it one of my top two. I think the lions offense is still really good. I turned the football over. Obviously that's an issue, so I think they are be able to rely on new orleans. I forgot to mention. I know you know a lot of points yeah, it's weird. The saints like at home has not I always know they are great home field advantage. I think the numbers of them like gambling wise, are not great at home, and you know what to take like earlier when I picked the texans, it's fun to gamble on CJ straw or pick him. Yes, like all right hundred percent, you know: what's not fun, Dennis Allen and Derek carr having any type of anything. It could be two dollars, It could be my pick on the ringer dot com. I do not like having their side in any game, and so yeah? The number is a little high to me cause I think they can move the football that lions offense. Has I mean defense has been terrible for like six or seven weeks, everyone's moving the football on them, but I just don't like backing Derek carr and Dennis Allen. It's not a phonics.

Do you have any thoughts on the stairs? Were five and a half against the cardinals? just to win our right money line, many lines stores gus everyone can run. The bond cardinals right still scala momentum. Last week, four hundred plus yards offense- they finally got rid of mac, can't add new coach theory strikes again even those that assistant coach and I just be surprised if the cardinals went into pittsburgh and just beat them with a team that I don't think their defense scared doesn't seem like they can put together four good quarters and I Zachary just asked for his release and got it maybe he's coming back to your eagles feels a little tanky. She and steelers can just win this right, yeah I think they will win the game. The five and a half was: what do you call it like the big

careful over there. You know you yeah makko conrad began. I would just like our recently bias. We all washed the steelers last week and we like who they put up over four hundred yards of often it's fixed. They got rid of that can, and I mean these scored more than twenty points once the last five game so it's like- can kyler Murray, run around and make like to place. This game. Are we sure the steelers is gonna? Look really good. So I, like the steel to win the game, and I actually you can see a scenario like. I think you and I both like the steelers before the season like I see a scenario where the steelers go on a little bit of a role here like did their pieces are in place. Ethnic make a fitzpatrick might be back for this game. I would just like ours. that offers a little bit more in the post Matt canada era before, unlike You don't look minus five and have no problem by I, you think they win the game. So if I gave you the steelers minus two, fifty five money line- and I

put that with the Houston texas minus one. Seventy four, the double money liner and that takes as t eu and plus one nineteen. Does that interest you at all yeah yeah, because the I mean the texans three and a half scares me a little bit now. Listen that it's a small line. They could easily lose that game, but those are two teams that I like quite a bit where the line is under a touchdown, where, if you just combine them for the money that I always get scared with, you know the the combining on that. I one thing is going to go wrong and I'm going to lose this one, but I do like both those teams to win those games quite a bit the steelers, india and the texans there. I am my last as rams over the browns the bed on fanned o rams when first half rams win the game is plus one ten

could have rams minus three and a half. The half scares me. The brown like there miss in both their tackles rate. Flak, oh probably is playing in this game in fact, has been a good started. Quarterback in a couple years, wards hurt thorny Hurt at night, if those guys are plainer and at that the rams look good last week and our kind of frisky as a possible seven seed there, little healthier and I just think ship might assail than this brown steam, because the quarterback situation and the land situation yeah. I guess the case for the browns would be they in. or break your none of the well known Joe flak. Allow fence, which you know you ve been talking about Iraq. It up, I mean listen. Data over under this game is thirty, nine and a half like if you get to chuck it up. Thirty five yard pass interference, penalties and then play well on defense. You have a chance to cover that three and a half. That's why it scared me a little bit but you're right it. It's tough to know what version of the browns defense you're, getting

because of those injuries miles where they mention miles garrett, who yes I go, he might play its. I quote: that's important! Is there s a second or third best defense appear in the world? there is not healthy, but he's gonna play, but he's heard he's got a bad shoulder that doesn't sound good yeah. I feel like what for you do on this game. Wait till like friday afternoon final injury report- that I mean that obviously, is a big deal, myles garrett specifically, so I could see a scenario like like the rams a lot, the rams have a chance to make the play ass. I really like their offense last week was incredible and insomnia on china's that recently bias where what we seek as two weeks ago. Remember they played the seahawks and, like they almost lost decade, I didn't when anything thinks I'm kind of I'm a little bit scared off by what they did last week, influencing me too much and looking at this browns defence, which, yes, it's been a little more regrettable, but on the season I mean we're still talking about what a top three defence. Overall here, I dont like shaky,

offensive lines and the road either. What am I thought so this brands game? Was they dont behind everson? Need it right? for that for a six, eight or seven seed, and if they just get there, they get de tr next week. Who actually thought had some potential showed some potential last week and then they had the jags at home. Have the bears at home at houston jets at home at bengals right probably went through those in that gets into ten wines, which is where they need to base of this is not a kitchen sink for them. Against ramps is my point. That's all over him offensively. I feel like every game there thrown off the cat in sync reverses double bass may know: there's you like, we gotta get to markets. We gotta do something here, so it feels like that's. Their approach is just like empty everything out every week, because we ve got nothing on our pants but yeah. I think it depends how the game goes. I mean I agree with your initial sentiment that I do feel like the ship might like the brown. Just I'm not picking them to make the players. I know they ve got a big address.

AL and a high percentage to make it but man, I could see this they'd getting ugly for them with their quarterback situation down the stretch. So maybe the move is just to take and I'll figure it out. I'm going to I'm going to take some time off when shall but that the ones we definitely leg, we like that jag miami casey parlay and we both like the texans. He sees it. So those seems to be the ones that are that were focused son. I liked the falcons bore the new the forty niners slightly more than you, but you're bad. You know he he you have to. You have to keep your rap with the philly fans, I have a big pod yeah. I have a podcast remote here in. I can't go in too far and I might end up taking the pats plus five and a half cars that that is ridiculous, but you'll see I'll. Actually what we did she'll get to see, who is always based revenue is why. The.

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beat them miami just to be watched him worse, defences, terrible, not sure if you notice, but my aim is offences really good and then last banality, she'll love the chiefs in limbo. in a really big, let's remind everybody that were the chief spot, they're favored, by six points in this game. We just want them to win the game, that's it and at the jags miami and kansas city, all win, plus one o, seven we're putting three hundred thousand on that. Next, one falcons minus one and a half at the jets were putting three hundred thousand on this. This is one of my locks of the year. The only reason you'd be afraid of this is just because of the falcons cause the history they have and she'll she'll talked about all that stuff. He didn't scare me off the jets. You can run on him they're thirty. First, against the run they have the worst.

the offense in the league. They have tim boil as the quarterback. The falcons came when this by three brussels questionable on that can over think this. I don't care that it looks like a little bit of a ratline. I think the jet skis and ended three weeks ago. Falcons minus one and have this one hurts cause. She'll is a huge, fairly fan. It was nice enough to give us this time, but we're gonna go against his beloved filled of evil, forty niners minus two and a half on the road three hundred thousand hours. All the match apps favour them in this statistically, you have, you know their top three and first

and their fifth and third down their six in the red zone. There eighth against pass philly fillies, the twenty seventh. It gets first and thirtieth of third down twenty eight in the red zone. Twenty ninth against the pass. They ve had this knack of pulling these games out week after week and as I told you earlier, I think a healthy niners, that's the best theme in the league, and this is a statement game for them. They lost their plan, came in and in january, and now they're gonna get their revenge, niners minus two and a half I had so then we have three smaller, once we have the rams to win the first half against cleveland and win the game. You can get this bet on on vandal. We want it last week at the rams this week, it's plus one ten for that to happen rams when the first half the rams win the game against Cleveland there's a chance, Joe Flacco may play in this game. That's enough for me! Actually, like this rams team, I think they're going to make the playoffs where to put two hundred and fifty k, and that will put two hundred fifty can a texans parlay shit,

love the text, since he thinks they could throw and amber. He thinks danvers turnover luck is gonna. Turn when do a little ass, same gamer, texans money line, sieges strapped to throw for at least two hundred twenty five passing arts and the texans broncos adjusted over thirty six and a half said the game gets a thirty second points. We went

strad, two hundred and twenty five yards more. We win texans money line. We win that's plus one twenty one. We are betting, two hundred fifty can that and then. Last but not least, we are going to put one hundred and fifty k on a little steelers parlay steelers moneyline, worn forty plus rushing yards harris, forty plus rushing yards, that's right, Jay, Loren, Naji Harris both forty plus yards rushing and then for arma twenty five plus receiving yards. You know what I'm scaring myself as I'm doing this. Let's go one hundred and twenty five k on this, but this is the same game. Parlay and the reason is, the cards have probably the worst run, defense in the league other than the jets and their run all from steelers win, in two thousand and five k and the steelers plus three o nine for that parlay. Those are the million dollar picks for week. Thirteen, alright, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Steven Ruiz and sugar, partier thanks to Isaiah blakely

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