The final push! Jeff and Elliotte tip their hat to Brayden Schenn (00:00), discuss an odd event in the Bruins-Blues game (4:15), Connor Bedard had himself a weekend (6:50), Kris Letang plays in his 1000th game (12:20), Islanders hitting a bump in the road (16:20), Panthers string together some wins (20:00), Buffalo inserts Devon Levi (22:40), Craig Anderson’s future (26:10), the marketing plan put forth by Ryan Reynolds (27:40), NHL going to Australia (31:00), Jets and Flames get some big wins (38:20), and Michael Bunting has a target on his back (45:00).
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before you go, and how is your dated it? Yours
good Jeff. I I woke up and ten thirty always liked to wake up at ten thirty. On a sunday, I did like a quick to me
work out. I do when I first got a bad two men at work out here. You know, so I have three
go days a week right now, so on the non work, oh days when I wake up-
five poor shops. I do five
plunges on each leg. I do five squats and authorities.
Second plan, ok and then
What every father loves to do on a sunday morning that take their eleven year old to the l c b. O I swear
As I say, I think I did see you on the cover of today's apparent magazine. That was you. After all, as a walking walking by the new staying quickly, I thought that was you. It's called a heretic die. We walked on others. Would never
of some stuff that we need to pick up. We
add some max. Did some basketball drills he needed to work on today and then I I came into work toronto detroit. What do I do? Okay? Well, my my my day was was all ray. You know brody had escaped today. Tj, had a game did some yard
say the unfortunately, in the process now of tearing down the rank, is were transitioning from winter
sprang. That's always a bitter sweet moment for the ring, but the reason I ask why so
telling me that you didn't have any one onion a list here skate over your hand, get a stick to the face, while getting a slap shot to the hand and then later take a thomas nosek high stake in the face, as well. All the while registering three assists, albeit in a losing cause for your saint louis blues. I dont know anyone in our orbit
yet who had a rough day all then braden shan woof
and still he was there till the end. I know like
any one of those things he could have taken the rats the day off and he was
taking the rest
the day off. You know what
if I was in my mentions,
t python the night. That was a good one. Yes, but you know what there's another one. I like that's a bit more recent there
a south park one where
randy marsh one of the kids dad's.
its into a fight and he's losing
he doesn't want to give up, and they give says I
here no bow
baghdad? I didn't hear nobel saw the yeah fight continues. Any winds,
that give was in my time line talking
braden Shan. I
here know about here and anything that references south park in the dna gel is
automatic winner,
my eleven year old watches south park like non stop. I know I don't know if I should be letting him do that eleven years old at an army, I should be on the cover,
he's pair magazine along with you, but he just loves it numb, probably too
responsible apparent to care about that elliot? So we
both parents of the year
think south park. Where were they goin off the end here? Will you take
Look at several shows in the history of television. When I was a kid I know it's all in the family and people talk about it
that show jane
television, either southport,
goes down. One of the most important task
listen shows of all time on the family hundred percent with you and always throw in sandford and son as as a big you for me, there's a lot of
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Boston, bruin, Saint louis, lose gaming, and one more thing that I want to add to that will really a couple more things. We mentioned rate and sheds really tough day good on him, yeah great on him. So the fur
I score. So I talked I mentioned this on radio last week and I was meaning to mention it to you and never got around to it, but the first goal of the game. Now
gives me an excuse to mention this to you.
is I've always wondered what the call
would be if this happened now the
school, originally was given to trent, frederick and then later change to jake to brusque, because they couldn't tell who stick the park
actually went off like this is going pixel
pixel by pixel to try
I figured this thing out. Jake debrusk ends up getting credit for total. I left side, Jeff Ross left circle to the jake. Debrusk got attacked all over the far post. He corrected a shot that bruins won blues nothing, but it almost looked like the scenario that I was talking about, and I thought it was kind of goofy. In
I knows all about random, but welcome to our radio show when I mentioned it, but then
watching this I kind of had this. Oh, my god. This is actually happening
in a moment? Am I clairvoyance Emma nostradamus Europe
we wondered about what would the call
be elliot. If
players both took a swipe at the park
he's got a piece of it and it went in
but give yet left shot underrate shod boast waiting at the park. The two of there.
each captures epoch at the same time, and
pals it in who gets credit for the goal.
I've always wondered about it. I mention
Last week I don't have an answer for it. I checked around
nobody seems to have an answer for it. The best thing that I can kind of come up with is your word it to the player, who last
possession of the park in some sequence in the
offensive zone, but even there I'm thwarted dartin painting a circle around it. I have no idea, but it almost happened
with two brusque in and frederick. I like, oh, my god, this is actually happening.
a couple of days after I mentioned it. Ok I have
there's no time thinking about this. I know your operated idea, but azure ranting here are thinking about what possible solution. Can I offer you?
came up with was that who,
the goal more
Well, that would be the old school way of who's got the bonus for that goal, or
who's in Islam yeah like who needs it. That's what I'd go with, who decide
if you go to the bench in the ass dakota kai who needs that goal more than more than the other guy anyway, the boston bruins win that game. Forty three. They thought they wanted an overtime on the orloff goal, that's called back and then they win it in a shoot out. The ST louis blues are now eliminated. Officially
Before we got anything else, did you
she will cholera darted on sunday. Oh, my goodness
so sort of comes off the near board coming for them
in past, becomes the paper suppose some had started about the ice is part of a guard has had tied up.
o connor bernard has been doing all weekend is
playing over china is conor bernard team and they're playing saskatoon in the first round of the western hockey players in item forty you. But you said that the blue
aids were saskatoon would have been the heavy favoured in this serious rag. Tat. Big time will now they're down to nothing, so
but dark got had five points in regulation. He didn't
a point on the overtime winner, slacker,
like you had a story on Saturday night and now there's a couple of things that you brought up on on the agent icy version of thirty two, I think, are really interesting, but the
one thing that you talked about was saguenay getting the memorial cup next year. Yes,
they're, getting it for two reasons, while three reasons one they put together a good bed and came up to
that they have a really good team and three com.
David never played in the memorial cup,
we don't know that conor Bedard ever gonna play the memorial cup he's trying, but you're right.
like one of the reasons. Michael me, sir, was an exceptional status player last year. You know next year is gonna to play in memorial cup and
Somebody says to me the
ontario hockey league fixed it so that this
how many young player, who we're going to see angel sunday gets guaranteed a spot
in the memorial cup I say, good on
as long as the team is good enough- and I refer to you- and you say they will be- then
you should be putting these players into a moral cop situations. Now we talked
this earlier this year about but dart, and should he
up to trade, or should it be traded somewhere else. Ninety kamloops ants pretty clear. He didn't want to go in and that's his right. If that's how he feels I'm good with that, it's his life
He does what he wants, but this kid
starting to put on a show.
w h I'll play us, and even though
the team is expected to do well.
Its exciting.
To see what he might be able to do
policies like if they went around it's crazy town, because that was not expected of them.
and the rupture, nothing and both those games by the way they won in saskatoon they go back to Regina, and
that place is going to be berserk? It's a jordan show it's an absolute jordan show it is, and to the point about saguenay as well like they do to your first point. They checked all the other boxes, like there's a number of different things you have to that a number of boxes. You have to check the criteria you have to hit in order to
The memorial cup they hit them all to your point about having the team one
things it impressed. The selection committee was
not just that it looks like they. Gonna have the team, but, though also have the assets in
or to enhance the team. Next year they traded at deadline
she's a gamble, because in other in a play opposition in there in the playoffs right now playing against flint,
There is no guarantee that we're gonna get the memorial cup and
still, they traded defence been pavel mincer cough to ottawa, now Mitya coughs, a first round rafik of the Anna high ducks he somewhere.
To play in the unequal and they got a very healthy return for em and all those picks it they got.
we back the other way they can use to help in hand.
that team for next season, but I can't help but wonder if one of the big motivations here is we have
of an emerging star in Michael me, sir. We need to
at him in our biggest tournament period and
like you elliot. I have
no problem with it again, it's not as if, as if saginaw is not a good team to a really good team. David wrinkles done a great job with that program, and you know dick garber. The owner has written a lot of checks for a lotta years and they're going to keep doing so next season, but I really do
I think a big part of this is they have Michael musa and part of that is why they're going to get the memorial cup as long as you could look at it and say the team is good enough to be there. Hey we're in the entertainment business everyone's in the entertainment business, except this podcast, as you know, from listening to it
So I'm all good with that. Speaking of the entertainment business not can make this too much about not even
wait shall hockey, but young minor hockey as well brady martin of the sixteen aaa waterloo, wolves, the o, h a just by performance of a lifetime
at the store was talking about this to know the name you're going to hear a lot for a lotta years. Just remember the name tucked away
put in your hip pocket and just remember you, your friends, your on thirty, two thoughts talked about and once upon a time
Remember the name Brady Martin, you organ
the hearing a ton about this kid for a long time. A couple more things here were following very closely the play off races and had
real good. Look at the pittsburgh penguins this weekend. A look at the fort panthers this weekend, the newer
Islanders as well this weekend- and
start with the penguins loose forty three on saturday to the boston, bruins double up the philadelphia fires. Forty two on
pause on this note game number, one thousand for chris le tang christmas is playing. It is one thousand per year, a chill becoming just sixty. Eight cutting till later to play one thousand kids with saint cheap, joining savings at the only three players to do so with the pact. At this time we spoke of the nice top order openly sport, as well as persons like every children, Alex torrent, and he play
thirty minutes, plus no shock at all ricard macao with a pair of goals before we take
the penguins weekend. There was a quick thought on Chris letter.
Playing game number one thousand forcible anybody who plays one game in the jail is a super player anyway
who plays a thousand games and the angel is the elite of the elite.
Anybody who plays a thousand games the way the crystal chang did and fight
their way through what he as this,
goes had to strokes and has played a thousand games just
process that sends a truce.
Drugs and has played a thousand games
the other thing about this is the tank,
Is
very demanding of himself
it was really interesting like I was. I was watching some of the tributes that the penguins put on there
or pages about that
other players videotaped in and mark and had a hilarious. One worry said, never thought he all night and blackmail sharply.
good luck that was really funny,
The one that really stood out to me was more
Patterson thousand games and thou it's not a lot.
Plus they can do that, how
you play every night,
the effort you bring in the commitment and it's really fun to watch and
great career man and keep a wrong we're heat basis
talked about his commitments.
The thing I have always heard about le Tang is that, I think, will
your grades or you're, a thousand game players, dna gel you're, a deeply d.
We committed individual and there's a lot of things that you do.
We see that a play
does to get there and
I remember years ago doing a peace. What the old todd riordan first term
as an assistant court with the penguins and they talked about the tanks
commitment to film watching and
Let's go home, no leave no
at his own keys. Will you go into the film room.
Actually like there were just ways they had to say to him. You have to stop watching video of yourself. Basically a got to the point where it wasn't it:
active it was more torture,
and your virtually the tank finds its way, but I just think that for
this guy to get with thousand games with everything he's been through in addition to what it
makes for a quorum quote nor
and a player to get to a thousand. I think he deserves to be celebrated and I'm glad
it and I love the penguins tradition
when someone gets two thousand games of them all mocking the warlords. I think it's the did from
how can they do for crosbie in now,
The Tang, I think it's a great new treasure requests a day everybody's going to follow along no no way he was going to dodge this bullet and it just shows how much they think of our kris Letang and their habits. Some fun, obviously out there on the ice, as is so right now the pittsburgh penguins find themselves one point up on the florida panthers get to them in a sec.
In an one point under the new
the islanders, let's get there now tough weekend for the islanders
up a five, nothing decision. Saturday, the hands of the timber bay lightning and sunday they dropped two to one decision to
carolina, hurricanes, they're, not quite tough,
we here yet elliot. They were making noise that they were going to be tucked away. Now,
little run, you know dusting the capitals dusting the devils
all of a sudden here, the islanders seem at this crucial time of the season to hit it.
I need a little bit of a? How shall we say speed, wobble your thoughts
the islanders right now. I blame
and on the reporters who, as Lou lamoriello about his contracts that yeah, I think it's common understanding that the day your contract expires after this season. Have you discuss with ownership
extending well, first of all, in ever talk about myself but check
a common knowledge about the around the way
sleep. None of you know. What's going on with
so, when you say common knowledge, I'll just stop,
Therein I wish that too
times you have facts rather than common knowledge, and when you report report, which you know
not what your gas or you read or you here.
I had? A couple of people ask me like who were the replies I won t have asked me like who
There were actually I've got to ask that question. I'm surprised you Jeff,
well I'll. Now they had tough weekend. It was tat
but carolina too, with a best teams in the league irene
We believe the islanders are gonna, be ok, just because I think they are
of all the teams down there. I think they have the best cool tending
and in the long run I think they're gonna be ok. However, there
bad. We can last weekend they sort of themselves out there,
bad weaken this weekend and they'll have to sort itself out there a bit
the jackson that we ve joke. They can't stand prosperity and almost has to get hard for them before they can get out. I still think they're gonna be all right as their goal tending, but you know I
The thing we should mention is that all of a sudden look who could have
control over their situation
buffalo wins in regulation against florida on tuesday night, which is a game
I can't wait to watch
buffalo savers have control of their destiny and
a week ago, two weeks ago, there was no way any of us, we're gonna, saying that was gonna happen, nowhere
not a chance, and I want to get to our craig anderson here in a second. But you want to hear a quick will, a sorry about me and lula marilla and it's a great line by Lamoureux. Oh this is years ago when I was hosting the leaf lunch radio show with bill waters and it was hordes the end of the seas in the devil's had been eliminated and we had lou on
figured ok, I gotta just take a shot and see what answer I get here. We're talking about player
that you know that that needed to be qualified and
I just asked louis said so of these points.
Who are you going to qualify?
and the answer was great- you didn't even addressed me, he said,
which I thought of this great, that's pretty funny, but he'll pepper, ripple, wouldn't even addressed me for the answer.
Tell you dumb body here on my getting answer. That question is fantastic. That is
well good, that's so dismissive! It's fantastic, completely, dismissive it. I was like ooh wow, that's a great comeback, but all that things are right in the rear or body shot or taking a knee water in the basement, water, the basement
for the panthers when over the columbus blue jacket, seven, nothing and so for a hot minute. There they had the fight.
Wild card spot in the eastern conference. How do you see the cats right now again,
the credit to Alex lion yeah. You know who
thought that the panther season would becoming
Alex line either you're circle. Johnson is a chance I shot to say by lie and kicks it away and the panthers win. Seven, nothing.
Lions first shut out. The national hockey league
and he goes first shut out the other night,
I think it was Aaron ports line who had the line that
columbus lineup wouldn't have been legal in the precision
They didn't have enough variants honorary line, yet very good line. The guys
in the job he stabilized them at a at a really difficult time, like I'm looking at this and I'm trying to figure out who do I handicap, as the two teams to make it right and again I go with who's, got the best goalies.
there's two things. The islanders have here that
Nobody else has number one. The basque bullies and number two
A time for the leading regulation, winds and plus
you know, even though they played one more game in pittsburgh in florida and they ve played three more games than buffalo.
Therein the highest spot, if the island
don't make the play ass its because they cough up alone,
like this is on them. This is non anyone else. I think they should make it
you know. I mean
Ottawa unfortunately hit the wall this weekend. I just don't think
gonna be able to do it anymore, and then I know
bet against crosbie, I'm still going islanders pittsburgh, but I
To tell you I'm not as convinced it's gonna be islanders pittsburgh, as I was a week ago. What about you
I've been the same. I still do feel that at the end of this thing, the islanders do have enough to get in.
buffalo is a completely delicious and unexpected wildcard and all this, but if I'm am handicapping, I'm seeing penguins and and then the reason I'm saying the penguins is like we ve been
talking about all seas along when they're on their on and they can the quake world leaders and don't look now, but all of a sudden casey. This myth is giving them goal tending interest and jerry is back aegis, cross. Your fingers, ed in other pittsburgh, pay.
When's, can nerve the world around them and make sure that is safe and involve a rap for games. I was it the same. Penguins in ireland or is, but I do love me a good buffalo, sabres chaser alley,
and that takes me to a question about
to go tenders for you one.
What did you make of
Devon leave entry into the initial. This would have been last week against in york rangers having a chance to talk about that since friday
game.
and you had an interesting, no wrong craig Anderson and his future with the buffaloes neighbours, which one
Would you like to address first? Why
think we should do Levi, because
buffalo fans are hot about him and he looks like he could play a big role. I like
They played him at home. The easy thing to do was play em in philadelphia on the road on site.
thirty that would have been less pressure and philadelphia is not as good a team, but I
when you have really talented young players, you shouldn't be,
rate the hide them
I liked the sabres didn't hiram because it says to be there.
Buffalo looks at this kid and they say we think
he can handle this end? He did to me it's not what you talk about, it's what you do and that do,
jeff
It me how highly the city,
First think of him- and I have mentioned this before I think before,
levi committed to the savers here,
to know that-
the team that believed in him and if
he played well. There was up
freedom to get their faster than you
Maybe a lot of other prospects would get
and the way they have acted. The sabres have shown that and the kid clearly right,
and you know watching that game and by the way that was the rangers run back to back.
and so that did make some sense. You know sure the foot of the fires aren't as good a team is in new york rangers, but
the rangers run back to back and they really looked in that first period like thereon back to back leg,
two shots on like every everything kind of aligned
four devon levi, their early that fell the third period. The rangers showed up
No throwing twenty poxy devon leave idly by, getting thereas leg and kids.
who periods in eleven shots here like what are we learning about devon levi other then this is a pretty smart move by the buffalo sabres catching them
creatures on the back to back putting levi in there and they can
look like they have
nothing in the tank with the rangers? Looked flat Y know that that's really tough trip from
that from new york to buffalo. I get that trust me, but they lay flat. They lived awful. They look terrible,
because they don't have anything to play, for I think there I think you can see. Goliath is having trouble
getting them going a bit there like they don't have anything to play for their tireless spot, theirs
claire the western conference. Whenever we talk about the east back to backs
ottawa home saturday in columbus on sunday or the rangers playing in manhattan on thursday and buffalo on
on friday. He says
I go. Apoplectic like I, almost half hearted is hang on. Hang on is it is a somewhat from the dallas stars because they have the worst, the other of the worst. You actually end to be honest, florida tampa of bad travel there, the worst in the east, but
dallas
canadian teams. He goes apple
arctic. Whenever we talk about a back to bed,
like this one. I know I'm getting a tax on mine, okay, so well we'll get a are you freaking kidding me in new york to buffalo? They looked tired back to back and they looked like they were exhausted or, like those first take the absurd, you can only muster two shots against a buffalo sabres
I I don't I don't I don't I dunno anyway, so I do want to mention Greg anderson like I think we all see where this is going, there's a decent chance. This is even talked about it when we interviewed him earlier in the year that this was likely
Fine lineage l season he's a
we did a day with an upper body, injury and its
after thrown in now in a meaningful game, the other
three other goal. These who can play it doesn't.
a lot of sense, and I think even he would concede that I do think
the buffalo savers have an eye there. Last home game is on the thirteenth thursday against the ottawa centres, and I think the bubble
savers
scotched with Anderson, the pie
ability about him, starting that game, and
it was to be his send off. It would be
credibly fitting and a really nice touch, however,
If that game is a meaningful game and like we said, buffalo has a chance this week to take control.
Of its own destiny. I don't think that's gonna happen and I think he would
you stand like. I think he would get it, but so I
toward on this one between
want Craig Anderson. If this is
be the send off to get their proper, send off and
How awesome would it be of buffalo was in the playoff race on the second last night of the regular season. I know what the sabre fans are going to say. They're going to say, are you nuts? We haven't seen the playoffs here in a long time, but
as a human, I wouldn't mind singing anderson get the great sand yeah just one more time you mention ottawa their second ago, you had a couple, a notes on the sense and ryan reynolds, and I found me the market
position of the add the proposed reynolds group remington.
The brandy family particularly interesting?
auto versus the world. Yeah
Let's, like member raptors verses, everybody yeah what
the great interest ever done at sports
Paul, so do the one about the rafters, oh good, has great. They react.
into it. Wasn't so good. I had all of aggravation, but I thought it was a great great great edra. Anyway. I've heard that that's what is
was pitched like again saturday night LISA. There is a lot of people cheering for toronto right now, so I know that if that happens, it's gonna.
Resonate with a lot of fans of that team and I thought
he's got a plan. I think
it's interesting like nobody's, really supposed to do. Interviews right now, right
die, Nikko sparks didn't interview on the weekend with one of my
co workers at it was headline sports at the time patricia ball and
He basically talked about that. We have a lot of things to, and you know like
I thought that was pretty fascinating, because you other reynolds train is really going and
some of the other bidders of kind of indicated that they know they
close,
the Reynolds train might take it over the finish line, but obviously
The sparks was trying to send a message that you know we ve got some special here. Do I
curious to see how batman would react that gives everybody is supposed to be quiet, mean brow.
those ideas, people
reynolds city hall, the mares tweeting about it, knees glad handing through the rank in it. Like it's reynolds mania,
with. You are a lot of people. I do you not at this point
like from wire stand.
Can we don't have all the information that the first bids were non binding
The word was that the bid from that group was very compare so
If there were three huh
million or two hundred million behind everybody else, you'd be like
whatever, like you, gotta pay, I think, because
There are very much in their the fact
sparks today. The interviews said to me like he doesn't like that is competitive, which
I'm fine with bite
again. I think it's a situation where some of the other groups are kind of understanding that if this
those it's gonna be tough to beat the reynolds. Try
I'll- tell you this: like
someone said they were hoping to have the second bids down by the end of this week. It's not gonna happen. I believe it
The time lines in this whole process really don't mean anything it's there,
the timeline of when your kid supposed to make their bed never happens when it supposed to be
I really curious to see how this is going to end. This is gonna end with a bunch of bids, or is this going to end with someone saying here? Is our number
tell us? If we go, then here's the number giving my listen to the thirty two thoughts. Podcast ad free on amazon user, including with pride,
you have a thought on on the australia games
I talked about this on saturday, los angeles, kings, arizona, coyotes,
well? First of all good scoop by you is, I think, a lot of us I'd heard it was gonna, be ella, Boston. I think what I shouldn't
Like I'd heard, it had been reported, so it's not like I'm like a super insider on this one. By the way, my first thought on the whole thing would have been oh saint, louis because anything walker, you didn't report
there's, but you said that you heard that there was no possibility of four teams going at some point right out. So
I would think that saint Louis would be one of them they are.
You ve almost got to find a way to make Nathan walker part,
There is one of your success stories right there, like there's a big hook. Look one of ours got to the end party,
the idea is you know you you, you show up at these places, give people a taste of the any general and all of a sudden kids want to pick up hockey sticks and
playing an your popping that market. What does is for do for you, international business? That's one issue as well, but his furs
growing the game of hockey that's what this is supposed to do, I'm with you.
It makes the most sense to have someone old Malta have walker there,
walker assigned for one more year, Saint Louis, at that seven, seventy five, it's a one way
obviously, there is only one route out of this Jeff and
is Alan walls has demanded trade too,
elaine, I resign the any,
has the on ramp this thing or maybe
this could be like, like they do in soccer any he's alone.
he's on loan to one of the teams for these two games
all I know is that I want to go on
strip. Oh yeah
yeah, they I want to say, I think it's a smart move, not discern boston. There
it doesn't make sense, elliot,
might win the stanley cup you're good at
Peter was season. I understand why you're sending a west coast team there. You know that
is too is the colorado. One of the things that we mention is colorado really felt that their season got kind of thing
up and down a bit because of getting
back to the mouth?
times are after going to finland.
We understand the ruins are hugely popular team and if nathan
I could get treated there. The off season, all change my opinion.
me, it doesn't make a lot of sense to send the bruins a way good.
Who, by our thanks, I'm with you, I would love to go. I don't care how I get there. I don't care where you stick me on the plane, I'll go in the process
I'll go behind the passengers and fly with livestock.
I can go to these games in his joy about that elliot
I'd like to see that shouldn't say that out loud or us,
my cup, my company, by take me up on its ok area, western conference wildcard race. First of all, may we ve talked a lot about
the drama that has been the one, a peg jets and what's the old saying winning, is the best perfume,
winning, makes everything nicer everywhere. Everywhere you go. When you win everything's great,
egg jets went on sunday six to one need.
He sure wrecking the connor halibut shut out with fourteen seconds remaining in that one. Sixty one is the final score and also the calgary flames,
did the anaheim ducks to come back?
five to four is the final there? Your thoughts on this race between two can. Eighty.
teams what
a huge walks through the one opec jets? Yes, because they were
leaking oil. They were on fumes. Some
driving on empty just to get to the corner pomp to get there
going again and not only were they big wins.
Were convincing whence they clobbered the triassic schools, each game, and then new jersey, like new jersey, got the back to back chicago to win a peg
that's a schedule advantage for you and they pounded them right away, I guarantee
you this. When I play
those players, they know what everybody saying about them there and all
you can do is take carrier business and I thought what a peg did it and cry
to them. The other people are really happy for. Jav are
wednesday night hockey crew because they get a huge game this week between the jets and the flames
but there was one thing I just wanted to mention so that night of the big born
what was gay media conference in San jose like there were a lot of things that got a lot of attention. There was
the line about. Are these guys really putting themselves out there that giving at their best there?
the eye role. When shy, whose name was mentioned there was
thing elsie mention two.
and that was about yours- not getting a lot of ice skating, the minutes nick missed a couple of I agree with that nick missed a couple of shifts. What happens sometimes is when I send Kevin to take the face off on the right side and adams on the left wing, and sometimes we don't get it out, I'm trying to that's why I try to get nick as much ice time in third as possible, but that's what happens and then there was one power play there in the whole two minutes and he didn't get out on that. But no I'm trying to get them more minutes. I am, and he was gave them all the night but again in the face offs in that second period. In that right side, Kevin goes out. Adam stays on left wing. Although she's so we have to sediment- and he missed a couple of shifts there, but that's got nothing to do with this play, that's just the situation, so I did try to get more ice time there
but it was almost like bonus, was saying
yours is a little bit of a victim of circumstance here and we ve
do a better job of getting out there, so he played thirteen fifty in that game,
he played fifty and fifty seven against detroit. He had gone assist he played for.
in thirty seven against new job,
Z, any tools now.
You can still debate on whether or not that's enough time for Nicky lawyers, who, I think, has a really talented player but
I think, when you come out, is a coach, and you say that maybe
it's not the thing that
people remember most of all, because there was plenty of other stuff? There said that we heard, but I guess
Aren't you you nicky healers, knew about that and I
guaranteed you some players in that room knew about that their thinking
Borders said that dealers,
it's a bit of a victim of circumstance. I gotta get about their more and
with two minutes higher in both those games. I think, when you're a coach, you
we too that player when you say that to make sure he gets more time and eaters got more time and they scored twice
goals, is it all on him? No, but I dont think those
These are coincidental, I think bonus
for everything you said about everyone else to me. He said something about himself, and that is yours. Has
yet more of an opportunity. So
listen, a couple, a big ones for the winnipeg jest, but a couple of big winds as well for the calgary flames elliot it took over time. Go back to front
They five before against having written accede is happy, speaks to his right saturn fibres, and here we are reported this sunday and can we find a just come back and in beat me and I'm ducks five before download grants ever say, rather rises stones, your bags at all, after failing to it again,
they trail, then, following forty minutes in their first seventy five,
the season, the flames? Do it a game, seventy, six and again then game. Seventy seven may lie Luigi,
eyes. It michaels
wins it the flames to feed the ducks.
Final score of five to four and remain just two points out of those second wildcard spawn. No western governments keep them.
This is a team that now we ve tried
write them off before and now the string and together a couple a when they have they had the dreaded for game we'd be out, so they yet they have Chicago tuesday. You mention wednesday against other winnipeg jets, and then they ve got vancouver on hockey night on Saturday. So am I
he's cognizant of teams that have the for game weaken what how much sir goin on fumes by time game for rules around, but nonetheless big couple a games for the flames. What are they?
What would the islanders? Why do I believe in them, because they
the better gold tending and they have the typewriter when a got both those things are gonna to point led by
have five dooms left, one of pigs got them
our goal situation and
four winds up on the regulation wins calorie doesn't have
I to worry about being tired,
You have to win the
two is all of a sudden. We ve got another goal, tenant question calorie, like what do you do chicago when a pig back to back? What are you thinking there?
because again, first call centres, traddles scores. These give up a goal and then marks from sought after the first period the dark comes on wednesday
the trial which the pact pass Jake
marge strong the ducks so
You got a lot of big decisions that you have to make here. I think the thing about car we now all the sun,
First time all year you ve come back.
One games that you were trailing going into the third piazza. That's good news,
the other thing is like
go scores the winning gall and yield
it's a guy that the flames love
they love him so much? They bought em out of one contract and then they reassigned him. The same someone
I didn't even realize you could do that the flames at the as the leak we do this and the answer was yes, a bite like that
a guy they love and he's coming back from injury. Like me,
stone liquid
well the tang earlier years ago,
keep citing low number
contracts with the same team?
because he wants to play becomes
from an injury and gets that reward. Maybe the goal that saves calgary season and the other guys lou cheats like this- has been.
tough season for him he's a
lightning, rod out there where he gets to play in the lineup. He missed
some games, you know he's got a ton of pride and he scores that huge
all the time it was called the other way towards the poppy shoot me geez.
Both calgary it it's a basic like would have.
At least this week. They won their lives to games really easy, not counting it. I'd faint forget, not gallagher. That was drawn up this an I'm game. It was drama
Calgary is doing nothing easily. This year now
one thing about the flames. Is I
wrote this. On friday after
big l game where they got hammered the one last two weeks ago, with laws big an ally. I think they kind of had it out, and I
There were a bunch of players who said like it's enough enough.
Complaining enough work.
About your eyes time,
grumbling. Two people word ends up in the media, and we owe you
that's your fault, not a just
play, try to save the season. I think there
some players who were there, like.
It's not only that were in danger of missing the play us by that they felt
what kind of self sabotaging let's play and player
arts am, I think, guys
extorted luge, each those guys
Oh man.
been around a long time. They love
play it.
It's been easy for them and watched
guys go to luge each when he's scores.
They jump on
in always tell how
people react when
one scores or gully wins the game. Do the team
it's like this person and use.
Four loot each in stone, those team
its they love those since kings game. The calgary flames are one five of their last six
We also should mention huge gave Monday night nashville at dallas. Yes, that's a tough one for national. There, five points back with two in hand.
Gotta went the beliefs, I didn't win against retread redwings congrats to dirk alone and see rising means group there. A couple of
who is coming out of this when one the injury to Matt Murray and just up a weird collision in the net with lucas ramen, who loses in age and falls into murray, Marie falls backwards, hits his head on the ice,
as samsonov comes in- to take over and also the Michael bunting story- and you touched on this during the game and post game as well, but the big story for the maple leafs the future and the uncertainty around that of Matt Murray
first of all,
people are saying like Lukas raymond. Did that purpose? I start up guys got thirty eight pence
but it's the hundred and forty nine eve just doesn't look at the play, really do it. It doesn't matter who it is that just look at the play. That is a complete accident. This these things happen
He was obviously a concussion protocol, Sheldon key said after the game and that something not to be trifled with. In your note
concussions are the same as soul. You know
when he gets healthy, but it looks like it's gonna be Joseph
wall time in europe
thing about wall is said: well paid really well the aid
teams, but on a kind of bad streak a little bit here. They went on sunday, but walls had a really good season. They ve signed em, they believe in them.
The other thing to is that around the deadline, people one we should draw trade for a a and I
think they made it really clear that they were all
the trading forum, if it was somebody, was better than wall at a price point that made sense for them.
Is the other side of the three year deal at a really no number they that they believe in them? So I think they'll be ok
If it's samsonov wall I they're prepared to deal with that, the hopefully you know murray will be fine. The bunting thing
That's a big issue. Jeff, I think they're worried about it. It happened right at the end of the second period, so I didn't have a lot of time before the intermission and I had some more time to make some calls in the third, so there's a couple
The answer is very clear.
Very clear that michael bunting is a marked man and
I think he's one of those guys that when
we're a team player toronto, and this I'm talking about early in the year
You know there was a lot of hey what
Pointing watch punching what a lot of lobbying from other teams about. Why
bunting watch bunting in a watch bunting
here's the thing about binding
believe in numbers over the I test here. Your numbers lie:
year, penalties drawn bunting was tied for third, with TIM stuteley forty
five one was due by fifty one
Two was Mc David, fifty, but here's the thing.
In that penalties drawn versus taken, bunting was plus thirteen.
he drew forty five and he talk thirty two
now. Look at this year. He
still weigh up their impact,
is drawn his second mc David's at forty two
Is it thirty nine? However, net penalties he's only plus three, these taken. Thirty six
six, so that the that thirty six is tied for. Second in the lee
Heaven marsh end or thirty, six and rasmussen leans of forty one soul
The thing that change this year is bunting nets he's gone
from plus thirteen two plus three
like a game like sundays, really highlights it because it's rending in what looks to be a bad direction. Interesting quit break back with e mails and your phone.
The elliot we get emails at thirty, two, though it said, sports net dot ca, we get phone calls at one, eight, three, three, three one, one, thirty, two thirty two. I want to start out within email. This is chris in burlington. Who says? Can I
I Eliot's extra rathbone jersey from him. Is that for sale elliot or is that already in a box and wrapped up for ammo for christmas next year,.
I have to check and see where it is, but I will consider it absolutely. Ok, great one, to be honest and in your presence you asked are like
would you have. I got it. Send me a note in a
the days. Like said, another note, the thought line
to remind me what if I've got it if you want to make a donation somewhere I'll, do that. I don't mind
send the email at the three two thousand sports, that dossier andy and amorous few ontario. This is interesting,
one. If a player has no trade list and requests a trade from the team, for example,
you have any cause, that's off the idea. Does the team have to honour the no trade list, or does the
trade list become null and void. If the player asked
for the trade, that's a great question
a really good question, but no,
you still have to stick to the less like the one.
all the vancouver losers will remember was kessler. He asked
a trade, but he would only go to one team and I saw you
coover was kinda, they they could just do that. I remember one of the great lines about it was Kurt shilling when he asked for a trade from the philadelphia fillies, the gm at that
I was named, was add weight and he was going so frustrated with. You said that
remember here,
Kurt shilling has a no trade contract, not a trade me contract. So he asked to work with us
so no the list does not become null and void. The player ass, for you still have to work with the list.
anything of players willing, I always think of Danny Healy ottawa and the edmonton trade. I wanna get raided. Okay, we ve traded, you'd edward said yeah, I'm not going there. Oh
was ottawa mad about that one, the other, but part of Andy's email is apply.
are permitted to alter their no trade list throughout the contract. For example, if a player
as edmonson on their list, but wants to remove it for obvious reasons: candy
this, that's another.
I question. The answer is yes, and no more.
of these contracts have situations where there is a certain date
that the list has to be held sent in by and
and if you submit it, you have to hold to that list for a year unless the tea
He is willing to bend our
get your list in late, then the team can
basically do whatever they want
The famous one is Patrick birdland in the rhino, rather trade from buffalo to Saint Louis patrick birdland had had
no one is no trade list, but the new list was due on a certain day and when he was late, saint Louis made the trade. That's the
everybody kind of remember some players? They.
we'll have to submit a list until a team request, one that happens periodically
but most of them there do on a certain day and
changes yearly on the same day in a lot of these cases, and if you put a team on it,
held to that unless your own club is willing to accept the change.
and those were really good questions Jimmy and a callow it as someone whose job is to help recruit and manage people some
is really interested me. That seems to be changing in the end, a joe. Why,
our teams doing beyond salaries to
themselves more of a destination. The players would like to join with
teams have made the biggest investment in changing corporate culture to make it easy,
here too: either sign free agents or have more trade options.
Teams are on the radar for play.
I guess the that the heart of this question is what can
james do or what do teams do outside of extra
compensation, because you can't do that to make them
our team and attractive one for free agents
boy. This is a great question like this is an excellent question and it deserves some conversation you may.
Her jeff when I broke in I broke
covering the envy. No, I think this it out together. You might have mentioned it once in the first season briefly, so I'm a young reporter. I am, I think, when that when the rafters came, I was twenty five years old there first season and it was
such as
Phenomenal education, first of all, there were a lot
people whose backgrounds I did not have much in common with, and I learned that, if you're willing to show
face every day and just listen and add ons conversations with people
You realize there's a lot of common ground, their people.
Learn to understand each other
like in the social media. The
the you learn is there was a guy.
Who played in the nba. He was the original raptor. Is
tony mass and work and told him
ass in berlin. I remember watching, told him ass in bergen college and your
thought, while this guy's disguise a really good player- and
played in the nba for fifteen years.
which means he's a really
Good player
At a time of the nba you played for one two, three four five six,
seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven twelve thirteen, thirteen different teams- overflow
teen different stops. He was an original raptor and he also said
couple years with the grizzlies. I think he actually went the grizzlies twice and
What you learn is a guy like that of your lasting that long in the nba playing for that many teams you're in a car.
of a person like you really are
guided teams why, at the end of your badge, cause you're?
rate teammate you work hard, you ve got a positive attitude. You dont cause any
problems like people? Just why
you around,
and I remember one time
him and I sat down- and he talked to me
both the challenges that the canadian teams in the nba face and he was dying.
might about it like he was
so good about it and when he talked about
on tv there look at the beginning, we didn't have
four channels of sports net and
what tsn they showed a tonic, curling and
They would look at and say, word work and we find basketball on tv and you couldn't so. The rafters like, I think they had to buy
She is for all these players, so they could watch basketball on tv and what
what're you mention was there- are certain places,
everybody's gonna wanna play me
be their story franchises? Maybe they ve got warm weather climates. Maybe they ve got tat,
situations? Maybe it's new you
work and allay, and he said
other places, and it was
Just ronald vancouver was other places in the nba where
it less your wedding, it's gonna be hard to get players to go there.
So I honestly think no more than a Jimmy's question is. Are you
the situation where people think they can win because of people, think they can. We
and where are you? Are it cut,
up a lot of other questions like your tax situation like
if you're weathers, not as good if europe
where you can win that overcomes a lot of things, but
Some of the things that people talk about is quality of team play. We joke about this
back to package, there's a lot of long travel and long trips in this egg. What's the quality of your plane, what
quality of your dressing room
What are the amenities that you have there like? Are the meals good like ill,
The things in the there was none of l players pull this year and the arizona cardinals were charging their players for tee meals and a guiding son in pittsburgh
jerry's like it was nice to come here and not have to pay for my meal of the team facility. It's all stuff like that! Tampa right now, everybody wants supplant Tampa vegas. A lot of people want to play
vegas the old people love playing for the rangers so
they're gonna have those advantages like a couple.
Years ago, member we talked
about Columbus and that they did
now. The man is another team, as other teams had so people like air
love, is they hired? Aaron Johnson is their concierge and what they did this year with Jonathan quick. Like that scores points,
jack. I don't know if there's anything you do as couple thing, but I look it there's the franchises. Every wants to play fork is they ve got the advantages where they are and there's the
energizes were, maybe everyone doesn't want to play for sea remedies and your winning has to be good to make up for so when I saw this question, what I did is a text that a number of agents and said like what are some of the things the teams do
try to warm to your clients here, one
didn't just returned pay. The agent fee, which I thought was kind of funny, and I appreciate the joke on a sunday, but a couple of other agents talked a lot about what the team
stu for families and I want to read something that one agent
and long, I'm not who it is, but these are some of the things
go a long way with players and he said anything.
you can do to entice the wives and girlfriends that these
very blue decisions, arches made by all hockey decisions where I'm gonna go along in a play contracts all that aren't
made by the player and age and the significant other plays a huge part
Here's some things to keep in mind a top
wives or family room with babysitting. They are excellent point. That's big
a plan on how wise can be important in the teams foundation.
Charitable work is well, that's big great set up for schools for
kids, says turnkey and really simple for families you
lies in current wives in girlfriends help cell how
the city is and how happy they are, and what a great group of spy
houses they have and how much fun they have, etc, etc, etc.
It goes a long way because we tend to think that these things as this is
the player decision alley.
How many decisions do you make on your own? I dont know that I make many
I'm not allowed to make any decisions. Do you know what I I think that is such a great answer? I wish I'd thought of it. I'm glad you did it. You know it was funny
talking about a situation today, not gonna get into it were like
a wise and girlfriends group
go well and how much of a problem caused in this person
said to me. You have no idea how critical that is.
because if it goes sideways, you also
can't fix it. Alright
let's end up with the other part capacity with a voice mail, here's chris in minneapolis
hey guys, gradual under threat in minneapolis
question, but rule appeared the laid off side. Can you score like it
delayed outside the waiting for everyone to get out. If there's someone,
one the zone, but someone shoots it in from outside the blue line and it goes in. Does it count thanks guys keep up the good work by chris in
Apples noble, no go until its everyone's cleared, the zone, everyone
everyone's gotta be a but I'll. I like having questions like this on the pod yup again, because people there's a lot of different entry points here for hockey its
important everybody gets all on the same page about the rules chris in minneapolis
for sending that one along? Ok?
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