On the biggest by bank eagle eye, one game im suspension welcome to thirty two thoughts presented by the GMC canyon. Eighty four x, men freedom and indulge with you once again, a one game suspension, I'm not If you heard the news elliot, it was a kind of quiet on thursday night and twitter, he twitter didn't go hysterical with the news it Alex, betray Angelo gonna. One game. Suspension should also point out the d arnault nurses, one game suspension was up, for instigating the fight with no keg. to our awash as we look to the serious shifting venues to vegas and is now two out of three but one game suspension elliot's for Alex. Angelo yeah I gotta tell you, I'm with all the people who think this just doesn't look good eichel. Reverse is theodore petra Angelo, shooting there there's get their sticks of the way, but not clear

second opportunity dry, seidel, moving to the gaping open that back had already. This is out of law or side. We took a high stick afterwards and I think it was from protract rising down after other gone out and now the porter, but rather more has taken a lot of checks, sticks cross checks, you name it throughout this series of just one out here on dry, subtle, late and with was late after the back can attempt I dry, as he tried to put it into the open network. David didn't like it came right in there.

Go out and low a bit as everybody converges back. Obviously, six players on the ice, but a vague, stole the knights and attract those gonna get the gate for that will have one twenty seven on the plot. But here it is here now it's late. This has gone gone gone and he comes down a grasp of Aimee. That's a hard slash up into the high area. Arms of dry seidel, really on discipline for our betrays low, usually is composed, but he's just had enough, but I mean that was that definitely comes down. They called it a major they're going to review and I dont see them taken that back from not being a major. The mc David gets in. There are coming to the aid of his good friend and teammates, when I was younger and I was being taught, does a sentence work the was dancer was your ear. It sounds good to your ear. If the answer is yes, your sentence works if you're sir, is no. Your sentence doesn't work. So this

I am using my eyes. Does this look good. If it looks good works. If it doesn't look good, it does work, it doesn't look good. You can look at what happened with darnay elders and what happened with Alex trash, low and say those, players, should be punished. The same way, you can't look at that. my brain does not see those two players punished equally, so I We feel that of nurses together was upheld, which it wise, protract yellow, should have gotten to. if nurses together suspension, wasn't upheld. I would have been five the trash lol, getting one, but I don't think they're equal I don't blame the others for being upset. I bet exactly what happened they didn't want it to the tragedy out for two games, this late in the series they just didn't, we Do it, but sometimes your point,

in a position where you have to do things, portrayed is very fortunate for two reasons: He has no history and dry settle, wasn't injured, but still all you have to send a message that you can't be taking. those kinds of shots on supervision. Players at the ends of g. You just can't you, fragile, those not on a dry subtle level bodies. The next group, is a star defence venues had a great playoffs. I understand he's mad in being target like I get all that, but we can I have this happening, it's not good for the game and number two, I just don't think the two of them should have been punished. Equally, let let me try to produce another line of thinking in on on this one sure. I don't think that again, I'm trying to put my mind in the mind of george paris here and I may be away off.

But I try to do this. Ok, if I'm george paris, what do I do or if I'm in the brain of george Perez? How do I react here, and this is where I imagine I imagine, george paris and the department of her safety? Not looking at these two things as if their joined or they should be measured off against each other. They look them as separate entities? One look. the darnel nurse in theatre under five minutes. It's an incinerator, its automatic! Yes, you can rescinded but it's an instigator, ok, that. One is the automatic. I dont think for a second, that they keep their help. It and say: okay, the owl for trans, yellow, suspend short efforts and are going to be is going to be able. Flexion organ be measured off based on what we just do. With their now nurse, I think they look at that completely separate again, I'm I'm getting myself in paris his mind year, girl, I'm guessing. He looks at it totally separate and said.

Essentially what you just did no injury, no history. If it's expert tranche low or if its, she Theodore or if its alex Martinez or other vegas. Golden knights fence been that don't have a history, I guess He ways in the exact same way the apartment where safety doesn't look at. two incidents that are separate one is instigating a fight. One is a slash and say he's too need to refer one another somehow because are coming out at the exact same time, like that's just the thing I like to come here at the same time, and I understand like okay, it's easy way of you just gotta wash one defenseman for another and it's a nice tidy bit of where can we really having put any one a disadvantage here? I just don't think that the department safety says. Well done this centres, so therefore we should do this potential. I dont think that that department does, or maybe even should take that leap and logic.

there's a laudable. What you say there is, I think, is very legitimate, because the analytical mind in me sees it the that same way, you just explain it. This is one play. This is another play with joy. The one play on the merit, and then we the other play on the merits. I think totally right when you An emotion is completely removed from the equation, and I understand that you are an automaton- a talk, not have human feeling, Like I get that I've known you for a long time, I completely understand old heart that Europe Secondly, a sap, the like, I totally get it ok. I think that is the hard core analytic based feeling way. It would work, but Jeff we our humans and human thought gets involved here, and human motion gets involved here on

Wednesday night when this all happened. I did the late night, yet we canon vodka from the studio yet has on walking over there. I'm texting people you may have seen cabinet I, with our jackets offer the envoys show I'm text. People. What do you think? What do you think? What do you think and you know what the overwhelming action came, to me was they're gonna split it they're gonna, out both guys, because Is there a lot of ways, and I am not saying that the people who run the department of players. Safety are afraid. That's not what I'm saying here What I am saying here is that they don't want to decide the series. Ok, they don't want to do it now. I know it load, they're, gonna, say they're gonna, say bye. Bye, not act, You decide the series in this project situation, that's not necessarily the case because nobody's injured. Ok, like bunting, god suspended the old church

was injured out. They had injury there and they acted based on it and saw what I really believe this comes down to. Is it's too to an, they know if they take partridge look out for more than one game. They are really really potentially tipping the series towards Edmonton and, like I said, nurse gets one game. I think travel should a garden to. I just don't think want to do that. The law the players who play they wanted decided on the ice everybody when my spirits, and maybe all year from players is say, it's changed or its different now, but in my experience is that players wanted decided on the ice and not have The decision made for them. about who is in the light up and whose not- and I think that's the player mentality

any player, listen! There's! This podcast is free to send me private message and tell me I wrong In my experience, Jeff you can tell me of you think I am wrong. That's what the players prefer I think the players were in department of player safety and there's a few of them. They feel strongly about that! Do you disagree. No, I don't, but I keep coming back to the same thing and I hate to keep plucking the same note years were trying to make this podcast what interesting to kick it off today, but I think they look at it and say there is no history, its slash, there's no injury. It doesn't matter. You know well well where the series is, as you know, tied up a two's or vegas, down to or Edmonton is up to. I don't think they look at that. I think they just take it. cold hard look at it and say if this were any other player in any other situation here in the playoffs. What would it be an The number they arrive at based on the information which is slash,

no history, no injury, it doesn't feel right. I'm with you on that one at that, and they say when we're measuring things up like what's fair here and then you know what I do Eliot I catch myself when I say that word and I stopped sometimes life's not fair and I always say to myself Jeff. Would you tell your children and your I tell my children gordon? dictionary children take out the word fair. because believing in that word is going to do a lot of damage to you in your life, because that word does not as you result, I agree with you. I get it either mom or great dad, I'm on the cover of today's modern parent magazine. As a matter of fact, for that one honestly, I think that it does. And feel right, but I dont think that up a player safety should be. in decisions based on what feels right like to me what feels right is exactly what you're saying are you rescind nurse a trans low one or a you, hold nurse any give betray Angelo too. That's what feels write to me up those decisions and up-

what you know what I and again I'm gonna come back to one very specific example, because an old george heiresses really hearing it online? another he's online and following all of it or reading it or whatever, but you know you know what the general feeling is he's gettin pounded out there The one thing that I always come back to about, george paris is the andrew coughlan, oh yeah, suspension, engine and non suspension for everley in these players and emily in these players, but that the cog leona one was where I really said: wow that is coming lead taking the emotion out of it, because there is a high He player and george peres, who fear playing hockey were probably say man, that's bs, let him play, but that's not his. I do agree with you there. I have to say this that when he that with cod Leanna, which basically unfortunately- and I and I don't take that lightly- basically costume of friendship- that's it! thing is when

devising universally left more chancellor, we off the two thousand and fourteen olympic tv sub, eventually cost him the player like those or people who take there. very seriously. The easy thing to do was the other thing I agree with their Jeff. I just feel that players- always want to leave it up to players, and I think they looked at the situation and they said the as a way to leave it up to the players is: do this, people may think I'm wrong, but that's my opinion

back to the last point appropriately satellite service, this storm soldiers all over yes, but boycotts at all big he'll. Take he will take it. What a moment over goals are special but want to end the series and send your team to the conference finals one you won't forget, and I think the end of the day. Certainly I think the more qualified team, the better team one this series and they will the extremely hard out in the next round. Theirs now with bread burns thanks very much

and, first of all how about this atmosphere, you guys gave them a lot to cheer about this crowd and this group. What can you say about it? I mean we talk about it during the game. How unbelievable it is the the energy you get from them. Coming in the tailgating, I mean it's a special place. It's it's really incredible! So many opportunities going both ways for both new jersey and yourself. Just did you wonder how this thing was gonna unfolded you have a sense of how this flow and momentum may change throughout this. I think we Actually, we want a lot of hockey, so easy usually see the overtime. goals are going you're, just you're talking about the net that fits right into our game. We love to chuck a good basket on that and we got the guys that go there. So you kind of figure that's how it was going to go with it. It was a close game and yeah. I think you just talk about just thrown a really. We had had the net and go in there

the islanders and six? You beat the devils and five. The tell me just what you ve learned about this group as you go through this journey together. I think there's no wait. I think what we saw was seen that all year guises keep goin. Somebody goes down next guy up What a deaf everybody works really one group to be a part of it. Its rally: man is one congratulations thanks. Thank you, John. Thank you. I honours halfway there. kid seasonal north carolina. Now, though, storm moved cell to florida or north to toronto,

ok elliot the carolina hurricanes or through to the eastern conference. Finally defeat the new jersey devils in game five by a final score of three to it, took over time. It took a tipp. It was yes per fast. Congratulations, you are the hero. Could kenya me with the shot nice tipp fiscal for yes profess, the now the carolina hurricanes move on and we bid good day. to the new jersey devils before we do a quick little. What's next and recap of new jersey, Your thoughts on carolina. Moving for and was it just me or did it seem as if as players have gone on this team is I turned into a machine elliot these caroline, her again, They are a machine like we talk about automatons and set the kinds and the good try farmers, the auto bots in there are the auto botz. They are. The good transformers would be up

miss prime, would it be burns or would it be aho it couldn't these bernie? I think you're, probably right, sinhalese, bigger tied it adapter put carolina, did you get this thing in overtime and he's been so great in this bees play off like oh burns on friday that back rejoiced only stall, jewelry back tat, you want to save redoubt brought into the quarter comes out to the right point there are high, Few team brindle more he's a hell of a coach like he's, the guy, who makes it all go people to me that if he ever leaves. They wonder, How much the organization would change. They think you would be significantly. Render more ever left that area by they know who they are. I think their defences ass blue eye remaining in the play us that's, who

the game, their blue line, controls games and their discipline they how to play. They punish you, is they make it hard to get through them jersey, gave it everything they had, they just more good enough to beat guys and there's no shame in that, because there we're going to be allotted teams in this league that are good enough to beat these guys even with three at all of players miss from their line up its exceptional full march to the hurricanes form. to the organization and whoever they play in the eastern conference. Vital they're gonna be favorite, and they deserve it. Ok now the other thing we should talk about when it comes to this caroline jurors. Again, Jeff is this video o badness the hurricane, put out at the end of the game. Now you have to understand well that thursday was nfl schedule reveal day and the

I fell in their teams. Have gotten really good at this, like the chargers always put out an animal version? That is very and they did again this year. have you seen with a tendency. Titans did this year, but they a bunch of fans. I guess they. They showed the logos of the teams. They were playing to a bunch. people walking down broadway and these people have no clue. The logo was like one of them. The jacksonville jaguars are a certain day and the a guy look inside all, that's captain shadow, and so they put Didn't she owed the nfl music on this day. It is so good facet here if, with a cold twice and people like that, I have I thank god. I would advise you all to go, see it it's easily final, it's really good, but in a night where the nfl does there, and does it really well the hurricanes TA?

them all with their video. Jerseys celebrities congratulating carolina on their win, congrats hurricanes kind? How I hate cattle in this is model from carlo's bakery home of the kick boards. There was johnny sack from the sopranos. There was firemen, add the big jets fan. There was the situation from jersey shore. It is happening guys, big, daddy, sitch, dow carolina. This is federico customer. I want a carolina, regulations. Great ran best of luck in your quest for the cap you advance to the next stage big shout out to you. it's so good, it's so funny, so listen! Congratulations are moving on good luck in the future with love from the jersey shore. Now that there is an awesome situation. even when I'm looking at this and saying do any of these

people have any idea they were signing up for. Did they just take the cameo muddy and go? I mean what a set up. It was purely one of them. the things we ve seen all year elliot hands down. Whoever came with that idea, the carolina hurricanes tooth scoops of ice cream for you and a corner office. Well done You know what you know it's interesting about this chaff is I I've started to have more of these conversations with teams, like some teams are really divine this on social media and some tea, Don't do it won t he told me that, Their rule is that from righted of their hockey operations. but one of the team's tour. He says if the team the we beat We think someone's gonna get fire someone's gonna lose their jobs because of the I lost harsher what could happen after this game,

the rule. Is the old do anything like that, partly that The gm said to the people in charge: I never want to see ass, kicking someone and then seeing that all this coach fired on this day or something like that. They told me: that's their only rule when the their team is in danger of people losing jobs. You cannot make fun of them So I thought that was pretty interesting, outstanding season and it continues for the caroline hurricanes. Meanwhile, the season comes to an end for the new jersey, devils and. what an interesting an emotional right. It's been for this new jersey team and what an improvement over last season, although I think you know, elliot how many times have we see on this part Caslon season. You know me if only the new jersey devils could get a save. This is a team. That's right there in the season. They got the saves, and they The wind streaks earlier was all about fire lindy than it was about sorry, lindy and everybody,

a good chuckle about that. How do you see the new jersey devils season and what are the decisions on the horizon here and how much of it just revolves around jasper, brats before we get to break Can I just say I feel terrible. For John sickened dollar. A great Please been their best as one of their borders tonight, as the parties where by sea or by he's gonna, go to the family box. It's a delay, a gay. You know Do you got the practice, the the top in a circle and seeing a dollar like? so many players trying to outright man leaped out again. But here what's interesting, math the fuck

it's in a neutral backing in indonesia ear pressure on the forward jacket wires. It well. I dunno it's an automatic. I know I feel bad too, but it's an automatic call. I agree with the pedley. I think you should force players to make a play. I agree with the rule. I hate to see that Although the key put into the crowd, he knew it right away the carolina guys we're all calling for it. It is an awful awful feeling. My heart bleeds forsaken dollar. It really does, but that said Jeff I agree with the call We need less whistles and you have to force people to make a play. I just as a human being Didn't like the sea that Brazil

colleague is not a decision. It's an automatic like there's! No, why? Why are you? Why are you in arguing nasal here and localised leaving anybody's indicating that a call look? We all know they gotta make the call, I feel tat for the guy. I harry I get it. I always say second, I imagined sitting there watching that all unfold, to be honest, the elliot and it wouldn't be a prima donna thing it would just My legs would feel like they had concrete in their boots. I don't know how I'd be able today to get up and leave the box. I was the old that awful they might just so there. Until somebody came in god, me decide. You know I'll turn the lights out on the way out, guys I'll catch up to you later I'll turn the lights, one lock the doors, I'm just going to stay here for a while that lindy Ralph quote. I completely forgot about puck over glass in two thousand and six to the teams. get about one way or the other. We know,

over the glass. Let's say: in time. This building I've lost to play off series was fuckin with glass the only I know this is a harmony. I'm gonna actually ask them to make the class a little bit tall, but this is another. oh yes, so standard rod sent me the note about reminding me the I, the player in question, who who fired the puck over the glass was Brien Campbell, defensible june six, two thousand six, the two who game, caroline, It goes on the power play and the goal scored by right brenda, more Oh man, salt open wound, elliot salt on an open wound. You, when I, when I read their code on twitter, initially My reaction was real. That's pretty funny good for him in having a sense of humor about it. And then, when I saw the club you saying it is funny he was saying it sort of more

fully. No lindy rob his sixty three years old is coaching in the any gel for thirty years to her, two of those at all, this sound funny- I mean this seriously as that is, I feel, foresee, dollar. I feel even worse for rough guy first I want to talk about before we get the bread is, is jack hughes because I think he was reclosed not playing in game five leave. It was checks equally, ok tonight, I didn't think I will give him a lot of Christ. I didn't think he resumed on a planet. For him the skates on play, he says a lot a lot about his character and fact you didn't, kill him. One of the other line up tonight. anyway. What the injury is not the citizens

to say right now. You will give details later, both an upper body, injury. I heard during the day he wasn't gonna play and, as you know, people are really care full about this. Nobody is goodwood meant that job Cuba is not gonna play games five before the game. Aids of war ma, but he didn't take, rely. Rushes and I was thinking, oh, my goodness is actually not gonna play and then he went out and played in that kid is such a game. I'm such a huge I'm a huge job, cues fair, a huge jackie's fanon I want to say that I think it was close in five I heard it was fifty fifty and he went out there. So I mean that guy is you're, marquee player and he is like. I know how important he sure is. I do but jack you. is the guy who makes them go and when your number one player has that attitude Europe really good heads, we saw become a superstar.

I agree with that. Elliot jack use became a superstar. This you're, ok decisions, brat yeah, so I think they ve been kinda brat for some time. They have made it very clear that brat he's not going far away from what use that now. The thing understand here is, I think, a lot of people look at me, say well, jack user number, one guy, eight million guy Nobody should make much more than him long ago, you, I may say that, makes sense that makes sense in a bar. or in your basement, arguing with your friends it always work in the real world, because they'll say well. That was This is now or they'll say. Look Hughes was our research. in for a lot of those years. Ed brat is unrestricted soon. So it's different. The devils are perfectly within Europe. Their rights to are you yeah. That may be true but

This is our sal restructure were staying to it at bay, a long long right. I think Has it been easy for both sides? I think it's been frustrating for both sides. I think there were times people thought was gonna get done and there are two other times that people thought it was never gonna get that but now you know the clock tex, like everybody, the decision to make here and some time over the next few weeks, it's going to have to be made by all I know, is that the two sides, have been grinding away for this one. In a long time it has but an easy process but we're almost there now and one way or another we're gonna get her answer mire. You know the thing if mired inside long term wish to this point. He hasn't a lot of peoples. Back to the what was going to happen was the devils were going to take meyer at a cut rate arbitration and what that one

who is make him a one year, the player at eight and a half million dollars, because you can take off fifteen percent from what it was king this year, which was ten and allow teams and a lot of agents have said. That's what the devil's will do. I think everybody it stands that if they can't get an extension, that's pretty bubbly, what's gonna happen if they decide to keep up so the devil's love choice. Do they do that and keep em order? They flip m oral lead. Talk to other teams like this The decision to make our brat The decision to make I Meyer and it is because simple as whose sides first but the players have a lot to say here like they are. A year away from unrestricted freedom see they control. I too so Firstly, there are two big decisions: their rough is another one. is he coming back to coach next year? I think Everybody knows that when Andrew Burnett was brought in that he was they're gonna, be the long term guy. If it didn't work out with rough will, run

just had a great year and the other two ways? I think other teams are gonna, wanna talk to Burnett. So what complicate this levels are looking at a head coach who they were sure about initially, who just had a marvellous season, and we know that jack. He was really likes playing forum and they have an assistant coach whose good at in demand was a guy you wanted now, so they have big decisions to make all over place. We talked about just as a quick aside. We talked about Andrew Burnett with Calgary any association withdraw than Hubert, not too long ago, like that does make a lot of sense to the point where I would at least expect calgary to have a conversation it they lock em up. First right unless rages, say you're not going anywhere like as a whole. I think the devil's are in a really good place. I think I'm your they had five year their fans were really engaged. They played hard their fund a watch. They play a fine style. No, you look you guys

He sure locked up along time uses locked up along time time locked up a long time, and I think you ve got your goal: the future in a curious weed, see we're sin. I can see a we're to be too expensive for them to keep oh there's, not a lot d out there in and see versions played a lot of minutes, important as for years so yo he's an experience guy the or what the devil's have died is theyve. They found good bargains here and there, like seated dollar, was a really good find yet for them. I am sure that that gonna, be there at all like what really good bargains can we find out there and do it even the lives of big decisions. To make up some pretty important players. I generally think they're moving in the right direction. I think this the team that we thought was going to be there last season based on how they played again- and I think this was the year they planted the flag, and I think this is going to be a lot of years in a row. The new jersey devils in

the policies and as hughes and he sure, and everybody else, not just hughes jack would also hughes luke contain a girl. I just thought this was a. This was a wildly fun season for the news, it was. This was a really fun team to watch elliot the army, the one thing about new jersey this year. I didn't we, Every single game want to watch every single game for for any team every time a watch devils games. There was something in every single devils game that I watched that I really like the up like every time I watch devils. There is something where I was like: oh you know what that was awesome. You know like there's something about new jersey every time a watch again

that I really really liked, and I don't think I'm in a minority on that one. So she not new jersey. The future is break free. Actual love. Love is happening because pigs any such love. How I visited a thirty two thoughts: claude gas ad free on amazon music, including with pride elliot also the dallas stars are now one went away from advancing to the western conference final. They take care of this yellow crack in five, the two as the final score games x in seattle, saturday, seven o clock eastern. This one was a lot about ruby, hints,

who now with eighteen points, is tied with the dry cycle for the play off led to goals, one assist for the speedy first line centre. He will revert to harley top oppressive at a goal, and I help or the other night walks it. It feeds it before the power glove side at an early kabul landed by Dallas. I know we have had a big night by honestly. The thing I'm gonna take from this night is dead, like the nor take her coming out of the coffin and jason Robertson is back going robertson, add three assistance, graze hands was and he was great, though

one play on the fourth goal is just such an incredible play like pulling the puck away from grubauer and then lifting it over him ties it up, try to throw it that saw as though he scored the red light came on and worried a play on here, because the puck to dispel to the front of the net it's a moment to elevate it. Looked like a one off. His shoulder grew our maybe on the cross border roughly was right there. Therefore, the horn, though it is never a good sign, so they are blow the horn and gold I can look at this matter. We afford to buy I think the stars will be much more excited. That's jason robertson ya though he hasn't scored. He had a bit. often offensive game they absolutely that we were to talk in this

I cast of all ryan nugent hopkins and how excited the orders were to see him score robertson score. He got three offices, but a guarantee to you. The stars were just as excited for that you now exciting. What's troop of elsie scored again doubtless got you wake words in the first. They get it even quicker one, thirty five seconds in tethers sec it. It is worried. oh huh, Joe ski just scores again, is seventh goal, the playoffs. What saying too slow to all too good to go your prevail ski elliot just keeps on producing too good at it good performance for martin jure. They get going these starting to look like he's getting on his path. Again, it'll be often seattle, its allowed building. They have proven yup. You should not count them out and I

wonder of Dallas is really starting to go here. I don't know what this is, what the stars they face, syria slow, they're down to london minnesota? They wouldn't three in a row lay down to one to seattle. They have now on two and erode trying for three. They feel for whatever reason that that's kind of who they are they going later and series- or maybe it they just grind you. I don't know exactly what it is The longer a series goes, the more comfortable the stars I see feel, and you really saw a lot of that and game five. You know One thing I have before on the seattle side of things Congratulations, jeered, mccann, first career and each all play off goal can right side turns away, but dolby. Hey, it's or their cars. But on the right side may of tip top of someone or something what those siano cracking congratulation jeered mccain

That's great recognition, Jeff, really happy for him, considering he was out with a concussion and is now back you can have. But tat be happy that you got this moment. It will be interesting to me. I thought the shah counter was really lopsided early in that game. I think it was thirteen, the five after the first period, but did you really yelled at seattle had enormous the good chances. I thought. No, I hate games like that. We get a lot of shots, but it's all like your warming up the other teams, golly cause they're, not great chances, I kind of father I was that kind of year for seattle. I never thought even earlier, as they had a higher shock kara. They were particularly dangerous. Now their warm up the corsi. Meanwhile, the dallas stars or tools in the first three shots. Johnson and Ruby hen so as to make everything that Dallas was touching early was going in yes and you guys from seattle. That kind of concern me a little bed. I thought it was

off night for board strands. I thought he was absolutely not himself. I, it was a rough laid for weinberg, who, I think has been really good in this series. Times, and you know why, I'll say this to my cab to you: Jeff Seattle, missing your guy, the only he's ten eleven minutes a night, but his horse, not having strong there, you can, you can feel it kind of it throws the balance a little bit. I just went let that bree the little smiling deeply dinner and try to interrupt you there. Why your honour, all about our boys, wrong all eyes on Saturday for game six with death. Stars looked closes closings, working backwards center sex- the coroner forget morgan

ok, elio, we're gonna, get to that vigorous gold, the nice game and oh, we ve already had the discussion about Alex patrons low and darnel nurse we're gonna get to the golden age or lose game here in a couple of moments, where to remembered how to play five on five and did a quite well. Thank you very much buds three wine to Wednesday a little bit longer and talk about the toronto, maple leafs staving off elimination, two to one the final a lot was made about the corps for going into this one. The lender scores a power play goal mitch: marner scored the goal that turns into the game winner, the headed for a game. Five! That's tonight the disaster scenario of losing at home.

five games is still very much out there. So get your marshmallows in your sticks in your fire ready for that one. But what do you make of the maple leafs are pushing this one to a game? Five, while I thought the play as well as I've seen them play. They played the find a game that you have to win in the playoffs they grinded they protect. the house single years, Joseph wall, why things are really talented kid and I'm really impressed by his mental preparation. call me is but its first, we're blouse start an yield they played, they didn't give out many great chances. I really the way they played mark play one of his best schemes of the year and if you're gonna be defiant, I've got no. Problem with that. However, you have to be able to back it up in the positive way on the ice he sure did to toronto player. Strictly? Well, now they ve gotta, do it again and again and again just to get this

victory for them. It's still a big task, but that's the blueprints, a couple of things for order number one I thought: could chalk was really quiet and gain for I've betting. That's not going to continue to be the case until the andrea had locked in and nugget. His former line made with the london died some seventy one, the memorial cup with a red deer. Tell barter, wasn't in the least bit bothered by that he was like Y ever. I know exactly It is going to try to do so. Just stay poison only give a finer know what s words The one thing I think about veracity and how the schedule was at benefited. earlier in the series cousin allowed him to get his rest and hibernation extra day Toronto can get this deeper into the series. All of a sudden, it is game day off, game day off game day off for

excuse, extra rash goes away and we are now at seven. Strayed starts and we know florida worries if he gets to eight or nine now, Ouch lie in his proven. He is more than capable of who is gonna say pause that for zack. Oh that's therefore yeah, let's get to the guy, who save the panthers season elliot idle. I don't believe me. I understand that there is a law in this plan and a quite obvious one bite, but Oscar has been the answer different so far in this serious he's been great. So that's the one thing I keep an eye on here. Look Toronto was near perfect, offensively and gain for they have to continue that on food day, but I'm remembering one thing you said was that which is it would be very toronto, to wit in florida, had lose at hall, but they know the louvre.

One of the things to, and you know I know you russell with this- one- that I'm I'm, I'm not going to ask you again belonging to tell you what my answer is. My answer is seven games like at what point is our all the contingency plans off you know although the pink paper, when does that get tucked away and put back in the drawer, it feels to me like scottie, go seven games or the the when, as discussed after game, three mites they'll go into a fact. That's what it feels like to me elliot is that a sum to go without the least need to get this thing to seven dick. The wolves away from the door it's like Jim Heinz or light on pornography. I dont know how to describe it that I know it when I see it. I think that's kind of the way I look at this. I won't till I see it. This is gonna, be ok. I can't believe we ve gone how many seasons, without you making one jim shaky hunt reference beyond this, sir podcast moral, the early fan days good for you

ok, so that's the maple leafs and the florida panthers story. Let's get to that, Edmonton vegas game, forty one and you know going in this one not wednesday, we wondered in a worthy edmonson oilers, figure it out. Five on five are or were they again just gonna have to dine out on this insane power play figured it out five on five and I dont know who is smiling more when ryan nugent Hopkins finally scored ryan. In hopkins or his entire team elliot season takes a look over the nurse verse shoots wider than that its but David, who picks it up to do the game was pretty blows. The monkeys obvious back right, nor did it with his first that apply are right. Now we ll house, he had a great chance earlier on and it was an excellent say by a girl with a blogger. Are we get a game. Were both team show up as an app and yet, but I would be

prized of one of the best players and game five: isn't she Theodore the all yet a really rough game for a ride. rough game for he's a much much better player. Though he showed on that night and they're. Gonna need him to be gray with betray Angelo out of the line up, They are one of the things I I'm really curious about is. How is scheme refereed look we do saw game, you're, completely out of control and I have no doubt that the golden knights and who are trying to protect protract, yellow are all over the officials in the series supervisor about the way patronage lows been treated. And I have no doubt they're all over about stone in some of the abuse he's getting at. You know that Others are lobbying back with ok, there's There's this there's this at this ends. We feel aggrieved about the suspension situation.

I am really really curious to say how in five is called I mean we all know. The more penalties are called the better. It is for the oilers, because their power play is spectacular. But to me: that's what The biggest questions about this game is: how tight is it? I thought it, interesting, Jeff that they didn't put Jonathan quick in it all in game. For that says to me that it was their guy, he has played a lot by Lee man you're just getting him work at getting a comfortable at getting amused to being back out there, like that, Skipper he'll battle comes down to who could make one more save if you're admitted you'd feel very good about skitter bid. As I said, very roller coaster e. He was born coppice, indeed for like to be the this moment of the game was when he made

that sea voyage stole when it was too to nothing stores all alone, skinner, shutting the door what galvanizing back home school any oilers fans who live in that here's dry cycle to cope shooting in he's zipped about one. Why did miss by much dry sidle at home? Again it is one of these. like that's a major swing from two to widen the three it. I think I thought that was huge by skinner, but who The team- that's gonna, get the more consistent goal teddy here, because its up and down at an injury situation for the golden nights. I also want to say this because some you go to these funds have been tweet, that me. Yes, I did. see the video were golden knights, were locked. Out of the room and admitted we all saw, we played on the air and

I know about some of the issues they phased in their hotel in when a bag. The golden have handled all of these distractions very well. There Feds demanded. I recognize this. I see you in my yams very ago at that skinner was really good night game for his well. Turning aside twenty five or thought there was great for him, you, reference teeth, is there a second ago when I thought copper, really, nice moments on the broadcast on Wednesday. Eight were run maclean presented so knives to you and also a tea cup the out, which is in reference to our conversation. We had where you reference that glengarry Glenn Ross and this comprise being stick knives, and then you talked about being more tea cup fish and not roller coaster ii, because that was the right that you liked in the amusement park. Kelly Rudy said that he doesn't like a teacup ride, could spend too much. I think that's prophetic when,

I would like to learn is old and I was on the team copyrighted come on. I was never much of a teacup I, but I like the swings modern roundabout, like this one the alright news on the march elliot and we'll start with ottawa and the senators and eyes on the sale, which now will not include as Emily kaplan from E S, p n reported ryan, reynolds or the right. Ten group, they are three strikes out. Emily cabin first at the story and then Bruce gary are provided some more detail. and one of the things they Bruce reported was that as that remington and render we want an exclusive window yet too make the sale and they were told, were not comfortable with that,

and what you see all the birds that come in next week as the bids are due on on, may fifteenth so essentially to put it in hockey terms, they were asking for a power play, that's good in K and didn't get it our play where nobody was allowed to try and kill it like you were just allowed to go in and score gotcha. Your friend, who, who eyes reached out to It- and I asked him to explain this to me and he said that he agrees with the decision. Not to of them the exclusive window like this those things it's like when we talk about before the suspension. It doesn't look good because ryan reynolds he's got all the emotion behind them. People want em in the league, even he charm the pants off the jail a couple of months ago. Everybody I've been there, but this fight angel friend of mine. He says I can't do that. He says you have a few this year, a duty to take the highest bid for the team,

and if you give him the exclusive window and therefore bypass where everyone can bid you don't know that you're taking the highest bid for the t it's been reported. They were prepared to offer a billion dollars, and I have no reason to believe there was anything wrong with that report you, don't know what anyone else's gonna bed, if you give them exclusive window You don't know that Anyone else is gonna, come close, beat it well you gotta be and is a lawyer or our someone handling the estate. making a sale. Duty is to get there most money you can now. If you have only one bed, that's something else. If next week passes and there the we people bidding, then hey. You get yours, glues, a window if death passes and there are the high his bitter or closer that you want to enter with them. Then hey

can talk about an exclusive window, but you can't do it now at last only way they can do. It is if they are or a piece of body That is so enormous that you say no to it. It's like the by now button on Ebay. You owe you ve, the regular prize, the auction still open for another week or you could buy it. for this inflated number and at last they knew that they were coming in with a number that nobody was gonna be close to anyway. have to be a significant money by fred said. You can't do that. You have to know what the lead. Ebay is across the board. So, even though, this is something that people like to hear a legal and if you duty response stability. He thinks that the right decision, so here My question, then, is this a dick, is this? A head fake,

by the reynolds, slash remington group boy. That is a great question. Have I remember as a kid reading, the comic books and what question with bad man ask well, I'm batman, isn't a question that I respect your a bigger, but I love batman. I was more of a spider man guy myself, but what resonates with you from batman who benefits? and so whenever I hear a story like this one, my question is who benefits and there's a couple ways, you can look at it, the other bidders benefit they know that Reynolds is out actually the other bids benefit because they might think now or there's one last competitors, so the price is gonna, be lower, but I'm sure that that's gonna be the case. Here will see by I would this story get out through

four days before the bids do. I like we're going with this continue, not an end, but a suspicion among a couple of people is that Remington is truly out then maybe right goes somewhere else or maybe somebody calls them and says either want to join with us or how do we fix this. And I dont know if any of this is gone, I don't know of any of that's going to happen, but there were Definitely some people want ring today about the timing, does just me, they're reynolds and rubbing gin, our guide or do we have two or three days here to figure out an alternate reality. I dont know by This has been the week of conspiracy theories, the draft lottery, and now this we'll see, It plays out

the potential of suspension and why only got one game did continues. Well, you know what to your point, boat timing, too. I mean what this Does now is another in the few days where everybody has to sit, whether it's ottawa senators fans, whether it's the nhl to your previous point about how you know the charm offensive by ryan Reynolds had the nhl gone right along with it, the mayor of ottawa, everybody's selfies, with everybody at the rink like we all know it. Ryan Reynolds has done here and now one's got kind of sit with his idea that what we thought was gonna be a great thing for ottawa is now gone and what happens, this period of time, like this didn't just happens suddenly, like the morning before the bids responds to go in all of a sudden remington pulls out now there's a few days year where your emotions can play with you and your disappointment in all of it can bring epps influence. Things

I am very much with you on this one like this time. for the bids are supposed to go in. I do wonder if there is something to that area. They do because I don't think this is something that Things don't happen like this. This value, I actually in any one who is involved in this, whether its eugene moulinex, daughters, whether its dna chow, I'm not so sure that this necessarily sits well with anybody right now. Someone is high profile as ryan. I would pulling out here. this has got more interesting. I agree with you now. The elder say about this. Jaf is. Should this hold? Is this in time the engine room was pulled out of a purchase. Franchise the ball in the red, so let's put it that way, first was arizona now and then Al Ottawa IL you've, got to think Is anyone gonna get full here again, I've taught all about what I know about remington

really sharp sharp people, oh yeah, who get what they want, help the family dynasty in the in the real estate world really, but if you're the age all you're looking at them, k that's twice our aid will law will see where this thing goes. The other big headline earlier on thursday elliot you talked about this on the weekend, speculated that there, the foot off he decision was was coming to its zenith here and was gonna was gonna and at some point this week last podcast I believe we did discuss Keith jones. frankly, he's the president of hockey operations officially and Daniel Bree air has the interim tag removed from his business card. As we found happened about a cosy five minutes after he was named in term general manager in the first place your thoughts on These moves, one surprising than the other they didn't. Good job of keeping Keith jones name out of the public eye, and I

the same kind of thing is happening in some of these surges. Nine, a long talk with a recruiter who reached out, to me through the abs, and he was interested in what we talked about about. Ok, we're but getting interviewed or were they getting talk to and how these games or getting out- and he said that's kind of the way it works is like these groups service or wherever is put in charge of the search. The start asking around. Who should I be talking to the little reach out to people? And you know whoa necessarily asked for permission, because they they won't ask for permission if they don't think you're interested so sometimes in the oh, you can argue whether this is against the rules are not by the region. The somewhat, although have a third party reach out to some one, and they ll say, look like tells le guys. Wanna talk to you a little bed with this interest. You I've read is this. This avaux you as early as to know like it's a short conversation and

you can say it's not an interview, but you are gauging their interest in this country. Happens. A lot hang on time as for second cause, we already introduced glengarry Glen ross earlier in the podcast. This is like that Alan Arkin scenery says: are we talking about this or we're just talking about this? What are we? What are we talking about here? We talking about this? Were we talking about you? I have to lots of different movies anyway, so that that happens quite a bit ads one of the reasons I I think- and I don't know that she had that they were able to keep Jones's name so quiet is that it's dolly had to hire a serve firm to talk to keith jolts, right yeah, so the amount of money about of certain people in the circle who knew about him. It kept quiet until basically when we too the word on this potter wednesday morning. Then it really started to take off. So what Things here there was talked about Jeff wise, the fliers

have to get away from the old flyers and then people look at it. And they're saying we Isaak they hired keith jones here's the. Where would explain that? I you're. A the filter We, the flyers, did not recognize, ed's daughters, birthday on january, sixth and their fans were furious and they know that and they really tried to make amends and a sum of their alumni felt disengaged And now the alumni feel a lot better about where things are going. They heard that criticism and they made a difference, The thing that you recognise here is that maybe they needed a new voice in terms of which a flyer alumni worth camera, on or making decisions, but the philippine flyers fans do

I want the flyers to forget them. identity and forget their history. I think that's a big distinction here, It's not about forget the old irish. It was never about that. It was find a new group too We have influence the thing about keys jones. Is you and I have known him for a long time. I think people are estimate guys like Keith jones, and the reason is because his friendly because he's nice, he ll, I've seen a lot. I think when not serious all the time and you ve got a really sunny disposition. I think will underestimate you. I think they they forget it to play almost five hundred games of the age, a leg he did. You have to be competitive, you huh, to be willing to ride over your grandmother to get the last chris. crimes in the drawer. If it's you and her

going down! Ok, while I think people like him, sometimes really at underestimated for how competitive they are, how much they care and how smart they are key jones. He could bid in media for twenty more years of going away, he didn't this job here, they moved to florida and now he's gonna move back. What? What I was gonna, be more aggravation that job or this one add says to me that he's tremendous tremendously competitive and serious guy and he's taking this job. for the right reasons, the all bree air, they believe in prayer, and I think breyer has a plan. I think he's gonna strip it down, and I he's going to be committed and we all know the Torah relish could have a big voice. I think Jones is their part

led to be the face. The franchise use also their partial. to give people advice and give information and give his opinion? I do I think as well, though John tortorella is going to have a lot of input here. I know that the buck stops with Daniel Briere he's going to make the lion's share of all the decisions. I just think the john twitter Allah has a big voice here too, he does, but I think that would Jones is role is to challenge both of them. They? Are you sure about that? John. Are you sure about that day do, we really want to do this. Ok, John, you ve already peeled enough paint off the wall, stop and we're gonna pay your island figure out our pattern. Here. I think that's. What jones is job is to be used to be the guy new challenges breathe and towards a relic in a good way and says this. the thing that you believe is it a true. Is it really are right path and the other

at the units important is they made it very clear. I think there is at least one candidate who walked away made because he wasn't gonna get enough power, they made very clear. Bree air was the guy cage, one's ego is such he's. Not gonna have a problem with that and you What the grey hair wondering is, are they going to add some more people, the front office with The things I know breyer talked about needing doug Wilson went pretty far in this process. I don't reported jones in exile were the finalists. I think Wilson was very deep in the process too, They wanted somebody who'd been around and see. The lot of things are fraught office so ear. you could say that your This is why I seen her. This is why I seen- and this is what we should keep an eye on- I'm still is to see if that's going to be part of it, but it would. It very easy for key jones not to want this job and the fact that he took it. I'm curious to see it

and I figure knots of you underestimate. Oh there's one for me that that stands out about this hiring and I think what it reflects on the foot off the fires and the direction that they're going in l a and that is a you mentioned Keith Jones could have worked and hockey broadcasting for as long as you want it. I say in the booth and he's done so many tremendous things in hockey broadcasting. I think, that's part of the attraction here I part, bringing heath jones is You want to have him because of his communication skills and, though, the thing that I believe about the philadelphia flyers now as day rebuild this team new orange rate elliot new orange- is, I think, they want to be more true. his parent and have greater communication Yuri mentioned the the eye, the association with the alumni. I know that's important, but I think they want extend that as well to the fan base to season. Ticket holders bond sirs and I think they wanted

Wait with someone who's polished. Put this way when you seek heath joan or you say his name like do you not smile part of What comes along with Keith jones great community. Sean skills are very positive and high intelligent and knowledgeable and connected person, and I think, a lot- This, too, is this is, fit right and with the new communication strategy. I think he's he's. Jones is gonna, be everywhere explaining What exactly it is new org? the philadelphia. Fires are doing It gonna be a lot of new players and orange. I think heart I think provider of haze. We ve talked about that quarter, length I wonder about connect me. I know the deadline. Last year one team told me they asked the flyers abode. Connect me. and they said look. We still need good players here either

was being a flyer unease exactly what we like they weren't prepared to do it. I mean that's gonna be up debris air, but I know that was the feeling at the deadline this year. Now barriers in the sea. Does that change? I dont know too early to say, but I don't think, for is gonna, be afraid to take I'm players and say: ok, these players need changes of scenery or by The time we're gonna be guide these players, we pass their pride I'm really curious to see what he's gonna do here, but I don't think they're gonna be afraid to be bold. A couple of thoughts on a couple of new york teams can get to the rangers and their coaching situation here in a couple of seconds. But have you heard anything and I know whispers are fairy, because word doesn't get out from you bs arena with the new york Allen. But have you heard anything about the islanders lately slightly

to the point. We were gonna talk about new york islanders here and what I think they may be up to this off season always easy, because the sultan of silence, lula, lamoriello, is in charge and it's hard to figure out exactly what he's up to. I do think John Collins, who, used to work for the original and had a lot of really interesting ideas, going to attend We join the organization on the business side. However, I'm not hearing of much in terms of changes in the front office on the hockey operation side. I know the islanders fans have been wondering first, some updates and some intelligence what's going on heard rumors of maybe adding to the hockey operations by the Intel I'm getting right now is that doesn't appear to be the case, but it does look like there could be a change.

More of the business side with John Collins used to have a very high position in the business. The angel potentially one in the organization the rangers coaching search, I think Chris jury and believes that He gel coaching, sperience is gonna, be a huge part of this search. I always think that there is a chance anything, could change if you get blown away by someone, so I always do that door open, but I do think gauge I'll which experiences is high on their list, now. One name that gods sent to me, which I thought was interesting who would not fit that criteria, but it was interesting. of that I checked is a pen dolfo hoop. Eight hundred. Ninety nine. In a nutshell, games there was a very useful forward for a law. The years and a to tie stanley cup champion here,

coaching now at boston university. They just a really good year and they have, as you Imagine a hell of a team. Next year, oh yeah, I kind of wondered if pen doleful would be on the radar bites I am told that he is not pursuing age l, coaching opportunities at this time, so I would like to strike that name, on the other hand, wanted to mention was pittsburgh. I think pittsburgh beginning there second round soon. I think they are. I get this time in the neck. couple of weeks, I think over them acts. Few days we might, dark to hear about some of the names at a really serious like they just went through phase wine think they talk to a lot of people and I think the penguins When I do this in tears, there's gonna be a top hockey purse

and there's gonna. Be a gm and then there might be some other things that they do, but I think they ve. This phase one on to the next round a wooden surprise me if were like a week to two weeks away from pittsburgh, getting this done as the maple leafs end up having a miracle come back against the fort panthers they will move on. If they may, please continue. I said this two days ago after they have, but there's no way, kyle do mrs leaving their look there. We ended up bite. when two rounds, could you see any way they can do this? this ban I come back to give a miracle comeback that can go down three, nothing to caroline eastern conference final will have everybody fire to get yeah. I dunno have always believed that somehow this was going to work out, but there is no question that this week, through a giant range and everything year calgary- french arabella mentioned on thursday. One

We talked about on mondays pod, which is that the belief that brad reliving, may not be able to talk to anyone until june thirtieth member we'd mentioned. We heard that I'd send a note to the flames. I have not god no response I want to reiterate. I don't like that if someone's leaving and you know, they're leaving. I You should allow them to chase employment. I do especially someone has done as much as broad reliving did for the car we flames organization, the sound with you, a hundred per cent on this one. You know one of these days, I'll you're going to have to get around to doing some emails and some voicemails as well we've been so busy doing. Playoff stuff in the news keeps happening, we're going to get we're going to get back to it. But one thing I thought should probably get out. There is a voice mail, a collar on the thought line. One eight three, three, three one, one, thirty, two, thirty two, and this is an idea that was also echoed by someone else by the name of peter from belfast. Let's have it,

hey guys, neck from london, ontario love the podcast, just a quick. What, if question or as a leaf fan, who was kinda bummed with how things were going before last night, still got a bit of hope here, but I couldn't help but think if what if the coyotes won the first overall pick in the draft lottery and the leafs got swept the fine. What s would the lease trade off the matthews to the arizona coyotes for the first over I'll pick and get car, but are kind of a fine idea. What are you guys think would be curious to hear my thanks again crucial love it taking us they q neck Yet your way up, either I understand the question: are you treating car but dark for anybody. Know not a chance

now, no way, knowhow no way know how I don't think you do I'll, tell you a story, and I told him I'd your radio show of people in europe I'll. Tell you again and now I can tell a bit more. It was the two thousand and sixteen draft. The stan matthews draft and apparently somebody called believes table five minutes. or the pack wanting to see if the least would to a trade, the pack and lula, marilla pulled them to get lost. He bade the fall, You could see what was with colleagues I get lost was the end of that conversation. The muscle in arizona. Seven wait to the bitter end. They ended up taking Clayton keller, but that must have been arizona. I don't who who's coming in right under the right under the wire. You know what that was the ultimate raft of what is right

there is the rangers oilers. There is sue band, vancouver hers, all kinds of stuff goin on that draft that never ended up happening, but not a surprise but open it's ok elliot taking us out, so we leave our listeners with a calgary born toronto based multi instrumentalist, who has been producing music since two thousand nineteen for mighty just dropped a few new tracks and is getting such releases. Never homesick e p, unto the eighth catch him

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